Hatin' On the DFHs

by: Chris Bowers

Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 16:25


Barack Obama shouldn't be nominated because only DFHs like him:

The strategist also said Clinton's agents are making more subtle pitches.

"I've heard people start to say: Have you looked at the vote in Ohio really carefully? See how that breaks down for him. What does that portend?" said the strategist. "Then they point to Pennsylvania: In electorally important battleground states, if he is essentially only carrying heavy African-American turnout in high-performing African-American districts and the Starbucks-sipping, Volvo-driving liberal elite, how does he carry a state like Pennsylvania?"

I'm not sure how that is "more subtle," but whatev. We also invaded Iraq just because the DFHs told us not to:

I was distracted by the internal American debate to the occlusion of the reality of Iraq. For most of my adult lifetime, I had heard those on the left decry American military power, constantly warn of quagmires, excuse what I regarded as inexcusable tyrannies and fail to grasp that the nature of certain regimes makes their removal a moral objective.(...)

When I heard the usual complaints from the left about how we had no right to intervene, how Bush was the real terrorist, how war was always wrong, my trained ears heard the same cries that I had heard in the 1980s. So I saw the opposition to the war as another example of a faulty Vietnam Syndrome, associated it with the far left, or boomer nostalgia, and was revolted by the anti-war marches I saw in Washington.

Hell, conservatism itself is based on hatred of the DFHs:

At the heart of the Great Backlash narrative is the conflict between the oppressive force of liberalism and the righteous force of the American common. In the narrative, liberalism is an anti-Democratic force that produces and dominates a vulgar, atheistic, and elitist culture against of the will of the common, in fact specifically to spite the will of the common. Worse still for the humble, pious, martyred common, liberals do this because they have superior agency, and they do so without any possible hope of recourse or recall from the common people, because the common people do not have agency of the sort wielded by liberals. Like Capital for Marxists, for those in the Great Backlash "liberalism" is a social force beyond the reach of democracy that has full agency and that is able to impress its will on the fated masses against their wishes.

Of course, this oppression of the common man by the liberal elite is purely cultural. The control and production of vulgar popular culture is a necessary element of liberalism that exists in Hollywood, outside the realm of electoral politics. The control and production of scientific studies is a necessary element of liberalism, performed in anti-democratic academia where the common is not allowed. Production and control of the news media as a means of indoctrinating the nation with leftist thought is a necessary element of liberalism Control of the anti-democratic judiciary is a necessary element of liberalism as well. Rather than being a cause of other forces, liberalism is a social force unto itself, and control of anti-democratic, culture producing institutions is simply what liberalism does. Liberals themselves are elitists who control these anti-democratic institutions, and do so in order to deride, oppress, and otherwise thwart the decency of the commons.

I recently read a good book about the treaty negotiations after World War One called Parris 1919. One of the most striking aspects of the book was how virtually every decision made at the treaty negotiations was deeply based on the perceived cultural identity characteristics of a nation-state or group of people. Cultural chauvinism, today known as "civilization identities," was clearly the dominant ideological framwork of the age, even if different people interpreted the characteristics of cultures quite differently.

And so this still seems to be the case with contemporary American politics. Virtually every aspect of our political debate seems to be deeply based on a widespread conservative and institutional disgust and / or fear of Dirty Fucking Hippies, liberal elites, and brown people. Even Democratic frontrunners sometimes takes jabs at the DFHs when talking about anti-military, 70's love-ins, or about activists who don't need a president. While I am not entirely certain of the source of this cultural hatred, I do think it has resulted in American governance over most of the past thirty years to be about as effective as the Versailles Treaty. When government operates not for the benefit of the people, but rather to try and stick it to certain cultural groups, it is difficult to imagine a way for it to be effective.

Update: If anyone thinks that the electability argument presented above is serious, they should take another look at the primary season composite exit poll. Clinton is under 50% among primary voters under $50K a year, and at exactly 50% among voters who did not graduate from college. Even if one lays aside the preposterous notion that Democratic primary voters from a given demographic are representative of non-Democratic primary voters of that same demographic, let's just say that isn't domination.    Truthfully, that anyone would take the first paragraph seriously is, quite frankly, a sad, narrow, and retrograde place for a Democrat to be.

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Hatin' On the DFHs | 23 comments
I love it (0.00 / 0)
When is my 'elitist' card coming in the mail? Do I have to petition George Soros in fact to get one?

Elite/elitist is the word that most needs rehabilitation. I thought the 'elitists' were those that try to use government to grease the skids for the already rich and powerful. Who knew 'elitists' are actually just white people that don't vote for Clinton, or white people that drink coffee. I don't drink coffee, but I did vote for Barack in the Va primary -- am I still an elitist? Very confusing.


I've NEVER had a cup of coffee (0.00 / 0)
This reminds me of Rick Perlstein's piece in the WaPo several weeks ago.  In any case, with the rise of the Milennial Generation I believe the whole DFH meme is going to die a slow death over the next 3 election cycles.  At least, thats what the late Bill Strauss told me.  Strauss was the foremost generational political thinker and co-authored the landmark book "Generations."  Strauss died a few months ago at the all too young age of 60.

And, yes, I've never had a cup of coffee (tried it once, spit it out) and I'm a white, former union member for Obama.


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DLC Clinton Triangulation Again (0.00 / 0)
Here we go, the Clintons want to play that DFHS triangulation game to bring down the party. "Not this time!"

Starbucks (0.00 / 0)
and the Starbucks-sipping, Volvo-driving liberal elite

One immediately wonders what kinds of cars/beverages are favored by the people running the Clinton campaign.

Checking Google, I do find this fascinating quote from Mark Penn wherein he summarizes his economic theory of "Microtrends" thus:

"In some sense it's the triumph of the Starbucks economy over the Ford economy"


in fairness (0.00 / 0)
I think I saw something where the Clinton campaign had spent over $2000 on Dunkin' Donuts in a single month.  So maybe they really believe that?  Or maybe they're too cheap to buy their volunteers Starbucks.

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DFH (0.00 / 0)
Maybe I've been out of the loop for too long - what is a DFH?

dirty f*ing hippy unless I'm mistaken n/t (4.00 / 1)


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This politcal rookie was wondering the same thing. (0.00 / 0)


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Dyslexic Freudian Hatemongers! (0.00 / 0)
Naturally!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Dumb Fraggle Haters (0.00 / 0)
the 'dumb' is redundant though, 'cause who would hate the Fraggles?

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The culture wars are just a distraction (0.00 / 0)
a misdirection, so people won't see that the gov't is rigging the game more and more for the have mores, and letting them keep more and more of what they make through tax cuts.  The New Deal and subsequent programs up to Nixon brought a fair degree of equality, at least equality of opportunity, and this was well into expanding to racial and ethnic minorities and women.  

The Backlash is a misdirection ploy by conservatives to keep people from identifying the real source of their grievances, the Republicans and the class for whose benefit they govern.  Obama said as much about race, but it is also true of the hatred of DFH's.  

Why is the Dem leadership so susceptible to this?  Number one, many are of the same class, as in the 1980s and especially 1990s the Dem leadership abandoned the working class and went for the money.  Number two, they think McGovern and the hippies were responsible for their losses in the '70s, when in fact it was Nixonian dirty tricks and the Southern Strategy, and a failure to oppose the war even sooner and, later, a failure to deliver for the middle class. What they lost in the House in 1972 they more than gained back in 1974, and won 2 Senate seats in 1972.  They in fact held the Senate until Reagan, and the House until 1994.  

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


DFHs rock! (0.00 / 0)
Virtually every aspect of our political debate seems to be deeply based on a widespread conservative and institutional disgust and / or fear of Dirty Fucking Hippies, liberal elites, and brown people.

Not to worry, we're outbreeding them -- and their policies just ensure there will be more of us. :-)

Can it happen here?


Wha? (0.00 / 0)
Brown people may be outbreeding peach people, but I doubt that hippies and latte-drinkers are outbreeding bible-thumpers and corndog-eaters.

(Note: I enjoy both lattes and (vegetarian) corn dogs, but I am neither a hippie nor a bible thumper.)


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You're not really addressing the argument (0.00 / 0)
and end up with a should be vs is problem.  

Don't follow this (0.00 / 0)
Obama does better in urban areas, with sophisticated liberals.  Clinton does better with the lunch-bucket crowd.  It looked for a time like Obama had won over a good piece of Clinton's base, but that isn't clear now.

I think Clinton's argument is that she can carry the working class votes in battleground states that might shift to McCain if Obama is the nominee.  

What does this have to do with "hatin" on DFHs?  It has to do with demographics - and educated, Volvo driving latte drinkers aren't hippies.  If Obama can't carry the working class moderate Democrats in battleground states, the Democrats will be in trouble.  Clinton hasn't proved that he can't, just because they prefer her in the primaries.

Believe it or not, different demographics have different concerns and reactions to political campaigns that have nothing to do with "hatin" on anybody. If Andrew Sullivan actually made up his mind on the Iraq war because he wanted to be on the other side of the DFHs, that is an indictment of the his depth as a person.  Since when did he become a hero of the left?


it's the disdain (0.00 / 0)
For some reason it is painted as a negative for a candidate if they garner the support of well to do liberals.  People who have taste and prefer better coffee, or realize volvos are safer cars and thus buy them.

I see what you are saying that one could reasonably analyze this and worry that one candidate would be unable to win the general for lack of a certain voting bloc, but when "volvo driving" or "latte sipping" type scornful expressions are used, it is clear that educated white liberals are seen as undesirable votes.  Not "real" votes like blue collar workers.  The subtext here isn't "Obama might not be able to win blue collar democrats", the real message is "the DFHs like him and we don't want to elect anyone they like"



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They are (0.00 / 0)
The reason people resent latte-drinking and Volvo-driving is because most people can't really afford either.

It's hilarious that you think the only reason people don't drive Volvos is because they don't realize they're safer. Out of touch much?


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Most people can't afford lattes? (0.00 / 0)
Are those the same people who make up the beer-track? How do they afford beer?

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What about Archie Bunkers? (0.00 / 0)
I think the reality is, if a bloc of voters aren't going your way, you're likely to give them a label that diminshes them.  "Upper income, educated" voters sound like a good thing - so if you're losing them, call them effette latte-sippers (but DFHs?).  "Middle class union" voters sound like a good thing, so if you're losing them, you call them "Archie Bunkers" and imply they're racist, as some have done.  I don't really see anything derogatory about saying someone drives a Volvo - it's more in the category of "soccer mom".  The latte reference does suggest a scornful leisure class.

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The car (0.00 / 0)
I don't really see anything derogatory about saying someone drives a Volvo

The car targeted by anti-"elitist" elitism is variable and seems to vary from month to month. Earlier this year it was usually "prius-driving, latte-sipping". Apparently now it's graduated to Volvos? Personally I don't really know what the difference between a Volvo, a Toyota, or any other car is, so I must defer to the Clinton campaign's superior knowledge of straw men here.


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It's just a car (0.00 / 0)
The Republicans have the F-10 Pickup crowd.  The Democrats have the "76 Nova that barely runs" crowd.  The Republicans have the Hummer crowd, and the Democrats have the Prius crowd.  I don't see identifying people with their market segments is derogatory or a "straw man."

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DFH (0.00 / 0)
Is that code for "the excesses of the 60's and 70's"?

Just askin'......


Andrew Sullivan Is A Putz, and Franco Is Still Dead (0.00 / 0)
There are two types of Andrew Sullivan posts.

One that makes you ask, "Why the hell does anyone pay attention to this clown, just because he can write complete sentences?"

The other that makes you say, "God, even Andrew Sullivan gets it, can Bozo the Clown be far behind?"

I was distracted by the internal American debate to the occlusion of the reality of Iraq. For most of my adult lifetime, I had heard those on the left decry American military power, constantly warn of quagmires, excuse what I regarded as inexcusable tyrannies...

Yeah, we were all over the place excusing and defending South Africa....

Oh, wait.  That was Dick Cheney!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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