MN-Sen: Al Franken As The Ultimate Movement Candidate?

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 13:41


Yesterday, just before the site went down, a new Survey USA poll came out showing Republican incumbent Norm Coleman highly vulnerable in Minnesota.

7/26-7/29, 628 RVs, (February results in parenthesis)
Coleman (R): 49 (57)
Franken (DFL): 42 (35)

Coleman (R): 48 (57)
Ciresi (DFL): 42 (34)

That is remarkable movement against Coleman, with much more possible, since his approval rating has sunk to negative territory, 43%--48%, for the first time ever. By way of comparison, populist Democrat Amy Klobuchar's approval rating is 61-31%.
 
Now, I now there is a contested primary, and I admit to not knowing much about Mike Ciresi, but I think there are a number of reasons that the progressive movement should back Al Franken in this campaign.  Actually, considering Franken's enormous small donor base, the progressive movement already seems to be backing Al Franken, so I am probably late to the party on this one.  Still, I wanted to lay out the case for why Al might be the best example of a movement candidate we have seen run for US Senate since, well, maybe Paul Wellstone, who held this same seat until his untimely death in 2002.

Chris Bowers :: MN-Sen: Al Franken As The Ultimate Movement Candidate?

  1. Progressive media is progressive movement. One of the clearest signs of the growth of the progressive movement over the past several years has been the growth of progressive media, especially online, in books, on radio and in film.  Through his radio show on Air America, his several best selling books, and even his movie last year, Al Franken has been at the center of that growth for some time.  He emerged as a political figure through progressive media, and thus through the progressive movement.  Not only would this make him one of the few federal candidates to emerge through the progressive movement, it would also make him the first figure from progressive media, like ever, to hold federal office.  For decades, right-wing media figures have been running for public office, and even though their victories are rare, they have often garnered significant support (consider Pat Bucahnnan's 1992 and 1996 presidential runs as examples).  If Franken were to win, or even come close, it would thus be a watershed moment in the  history of the progressive movement.

  2. Passes Bar Fight Primary Test With Flying Colors.  Matt's formulation of "The Bar Fight Primary," is, I think, still an excellent way of looking for movement candidates.  Who will stand with the progressives and with the movement when the right-wing attack machine gears up, and the slime really hits the fan?  Who will push back against conservative attacks, and give as good as s/he gets?  Given that he has titled his books include titles like Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot and Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right, I think we know where he stands on that front.  In fact, there might not be a Democrat out there who will give back as good as Franken both can, and will.

  3. A Self-Identified Progresive.  I was looking over Al Franken's videos on YouTube, and he self-identifies as progressive-a lot.  He isn't afraid to identify himself as a progressive, which is important.  As I argued in the recent past, if you can't say it, you can't do it.

  4. Huge Small Donor Base. So far, Al Franken has raised more money than anyone running against an incumbent US Senator at this point in the election cycle, ever (the previous first year, second quarter record was held by Bob Casey against Rick Santorum).  Not only that, but he has done it with an enormous small donor base, and an average contribution of only $65:

    From April 1 to June 30 Franken raised $1.9 million, bringing his cycle to date total to $3.3 million raised. He ended June with $2 million in the bank. As impressive, more than 36,000 donors have given to his campaign with an average contribution of just $65.

    To put this in perspective, Franken has as many donors as Bill Richardson, who is running for President. And it is only July 2007.

  5. New to the political scene.  Like many figures in the media and grassroots portions of the progressive movement, Al Franken has come to politics after spending most of his career in other fields.  This is key for several reasons.  First, it gives him a broader perspective outside the world of politics.  Second, it will probably improve his chances of winning, since an anti-Washington mood is growing around the country.  Third, it means he enters professional politics with the same, or at least similar, set of post-1998 assumptions that are seen throughout the Open Left: the need to take Republicans head on instead of triangulating, the need to self-identify as a progressive, the need to build media and the movement, the need to connect to the grassroots, and the need to incorporate humor and joy into an extremely cynical process.  His public demeanor is very similar to one that is often visible in many corners of the progressive blogosphere.

Al Franken really seems about as close to the model of a progressive movement candidate as we have witnessed.  I guess that isn't too much of a surprise, since he is actually someone that many of us Gen X bloggers grew up watching on Saturday Night Live, thus serving as a portion of some of our formative political outlooks.  What does surprise me is that it now seems clear he has a good chance of actually winning.  I always thought Franken was a smart, hard-working guy, but with a lot of money in the bank, a grassroots movement behind him, an unpopular incumbent, polls trending in his direction, lots of experience in the public eye, and an outsider, progressive attitude that should play well in 2008, he can really win this thing.  If he does, it might end up being the best example of a progressive movement electoral victory, ever.  At least right now, I intend to help him pull off that remarkable feat.  Al Franken for Senate!.

What do others think? Am I being over-exuberant here?  Is there something I am missing?  Fraken seems like the real deal.



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You've got Al Franken Pegged (0.00 / 0)
I've nothing to add to your praise for this excellent candidate.

I can't wait to see his campaign ads!

He was very much involved in the recent campaigns for Jim Webb and Tim Walz.

Although, either Franken or Ciresi would be a vast improvement over Norm "the Haircut" Coleman.

Ciresi rose to prominence in MN when his law office represented the state while suing (and winning) tobacco companies.  There has been some controversy over his rather large fee for that case, however.

I doubt that Ciresi can challenge Fraken for the "progressive" label.  He lost the primary to Mark Dayton last time he ran for Senate.  I suspect he'll run for Governor if he doesn't get into the Senate.  He tried during the last election, but lost out to the former Attorney General, Mike Hatch - who ended up blowing the election and thus, 4 more years of Tim Pawlenty (John McCain's Campaign manger in Minnesota - and likely his running mate if a miracle should occur and McCain gets the nomination).

A bit more about Ciresi from Minnesota Public Radio:

http://news.minnesot...

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


My bad (4.00 / 1)
Ciresi did not lose the primary to Hatch - he did badly in the caususes and decided not to run.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


Al Franken (4.00 / 1)
Chris,

Franken has consistently provided a platform over the last 2 years to many progressives and policy wonks that need to get their viewpoint into the public discourse. Regular guests such as Melanie Sloan (Crew), Norman Ornstein, Christy Harvey (Center for American Progress), etc.  While his program on Air American included entertainment,(In radio it must to be viable), it was a great venue for progessives to become aware of non-corporate viewpoints on national and local policy issues. 


I was on the show once (0.00 / 0)
It was early in my blogging days and I was supposed to give a big picture, future electoral outlook in early 2005. I was really nervous, and prepared myself with a zillion different facts.  At some point in the interview, Al asked me if I had a gimp in the room with me, because there were some sort of moaning taking place in the background.  It was some sort of white noise device in the office where I was conducting the interview, and I was so flummoxed by his question that I had no idea what to say. Al has real comedian instincts where he can quickly think of funny things to say off the cuff. I think that should play well on the trail. 

[ Parent ]
Al's Never Wrong (0.00 / 0)
I enjoyed listening to his show on Air America. I laughed and learned as Al had a firm grip of the issues.  Sometimes though he came across as a real arrogant jerk who could never admit a mistake.  He did terrible interviews, not listening and very intent on showing the expert that he knew just as much as they did.  We don't need more politicians filled with hubris.  I think that might be way he does not perform any better than the other democratic candidate.

Respectfully disagree... (4.00 / 2)
In the beginning he was a novice, and it showed.  As he gained more experience the show dramatically improved.  I enjoyed his interviews and his "realness".  If was pissed the listener knew it, if he was happy the listener knew it. If he felt sadness and pain (especially over Iraq, which he has great emotional investment in) then we know it.  Whenever he spoke about his father, I felt as if I knew him, but more importantly, I felt that I knew what shaped Al's values, and ethical sensibility.  Finally, I liked most of his interviews - and yes there were times when he was arrogant, but the next day or week (if the guest was reoccurring) he would apologize, exhibiting humility and self-awareness. 

In short, I don't know if he would make a good senator for Minnesota, but I think he has all the qualities that I would want for a senator from California.


[ Parent ]
I want to agre here with CeeusBeeus... (0.00 / 0)
...the short time Al Franken's show was on the air you could just hear him grow into the role.  I used to podcast his show every chance I got and I came to this conclusion about show and his abilities as a host:  when he was bad - he was really bad, but when he was good, he was the best on radio at interviewing guests and putting the progressive viewpoint in the best light possible.  He did this through the retinue of regular guests he would have on with slightly different angles on the progressive movement.  But as time passed the really bad started to show up less and less and the really good just continued to blossum.

My only complaint with him at the end as he left the show and positioned himself as a candidate was his still sometimes naive ideas he held on a couple of issues.  Overall though I agree with Chris.  His points about Franken being a progressive movement candidate are right on.  I already have a link to his web site on my blogroll.  I will be following his candidacy very closely and join the ranks of his small donor base.  I'll say this, the GOP must be worried about him because they already have a website up attacking him.


[ Parent ]
Franken on Iraq (0.00 / 0)
One thing Franken was very mistaken about was the war in Iraq. He repeated endlessly during the time I listened to him how convincing he thought Colin Powell's UN presentation was, and consistently avoided the topic that the invasion of Iraq was a bad idea in the first place, while playing up the Shinseki plan that we should have gone in with half a million troops instead of just 150,000.

Frankenly, while Al was a friend of Paul Wellstone's I don't think Wellstone would have voted for the war if he'd been in the Senate (because he didn't). I think there's a good chance Franken might have bought the line, despite what seems to be at many times a finely-tuned sense for bs detection.

Those who have had a chance for four years and could not produce peace should not be given another chance. --Richard Nixon, 9 October 1968


[ Parent ]
Ciresi (0.00 / 0)
Mike Ciresi is a lawyer who beat the tobacco companies in a giant health case. Ciresi can self fund - he's got a worth of $27 million dollars. Last time Ciresi ran he created some friction with the DFL delegates by not promising to drop out if he didn't get their endorsement. I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of MN politics but if they have a primary then it's the voters endorsement that counts. Ned Lamont didn't drop out after not getting the endorsement of the Connecticut Democratic party at their convention so I'm sure that is a bad thing. In any case Ciresi has been courting DFL endorsements this go-round.

Here are two recent news stories that lay out the Franken vs. Ciresi race.

http://www.startribu...

http://www.startribu...

Ciresi is endorsed by US Rep. Betty McCollum (MN-4). McCollum has a 91% progressive rating so Ciresi can't be all bad. McCollum is great whenever I see her on C-Span. She just kicked some ass in the hearings about the forced labor in Iraq under State Dept. subcontractors. Personally I wish McCollum would run for Senator from MN. She's better than both Ciresi and Franken IMHO.

John McCain


McCollum Owes Ciresi (0.00 / 0)
Unfortunately, (and I know this for a fact), McCollum is supporting Ciresi because he's given her a lot of money over the years.

[ Parent ]
$11,000 over six years (0.00 / 0)
That's the total given to McCollum by Mike and Ann Ciresi over six years. I don't think that's a lot for a Minnesota multimillionaire to give in Minnesota politics.

John McCain

[ Parent ]
I don't know how much bundling, etc (0.00 / 0)
but I do know that Ciresi has been "a big supporter of Betty's" over the years, and she feels indebted to him; that's why it didn't take her long to endorse his candidacacy.

[ Parent ]
Going to be a tough candidate (0.00 / 0)
His stint on Air America has given him a great amount of experience pressing progressive policies as well as punching holes in Republican ideology (and continually calling out the GOPocracy).

Those who think Al is a neophyte are in for a rude awakening. And I imagine there is nothing a politician fears more than having to debate a former comedian. In our sound byte media, I fully expect Al to run away with this election, as well as provide progressives a role model on how to campaign in the new millenium. What is so refreshing is that Franken makes no apologies for his progressive beliefs, he says it loud, he says it proud, and he's not looking for approval or validation from the Beltway elders. I fully expect the media to demonize him as 'unserious' even if he wins the primary and general election. But Al will have the last laugh.


Plus He's An Instant National Figure (4.00 / 2)
Another thing to consider is that as soon as he's a Senator, he's a newsmaker.  He doesn't even need the Sunday shows to validate him.  Which means they will probably bite their lips clean through, but invite him on anyway, just to not look irrelevent.  After all, he can go on Leno, Letterman, TDS, heck Dancing With The Stars!

Something you didn't put into your list, Chris, is the amount of legwork he's putting in.  He's giving every indication of being a Wellstone-style grassroots party-builder, doing as much inside the state as his small donor totals say about attracting support nationwide.  It's not just about winning the Senate seat, there are some house pickups to be had in Minnesota, and he's already shown the sort of party-building instincts to help get that job done, too.

For me, one of the clearest and earliest signals that he was for real was the brain-dead way folks tried to write him off.  An entertainer.  Who in Minnesota would vote for him?  Jesse Ventura and who else, right?  When they lead with a brain-dead argument like that, you just know... they got nothin'.

Oh yeah, and one more thing.  Franken was the first influence in turning Arianna Huffington from the dark side.  Robert Scheer deserves all the credit for actually caring for her as she went through withdrawal, but Franken softened her up.  When he first took her on, she was Newt's biggest cheerleader (besides Newt, of course).

Heck, if she had any sense, even Ann Coulter would be afraid to be in the same room with him too long.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


Thanks for the Minnesota love (0.00 / 0)
As someone who will get to vote in this primary, my heart is definitely with Franken, for the reasons you've mentioned above. I'm sure I'll end up voting for him, but I think that there are some valid concerns out there regarding his candidacy:

1) Carpet-bagging: Al grew up in Minnesota, from early elementary school all the way through high school graduation. After leaving for college at Harvard, he necessarily stayed out of state to pursue his career in show-business (it's hard to live in Minnesota and make a career as an entertainer, unless you're Garrison Keilor or Prince, though we have some excellent regional theater and a good music scene in the Twin Cities area). He only came back a few years ago to start his radio show, and I believe he lives in a condo. Almost immediately upon returning began making noise about running for Senate against Coleman in 2008. You can see how there are obvious carpet-bagger problems with this one: Minnesota is not New York. However, Coleman wasn't born in Minnesota, either, so this could be a difficult angle for him to work against Franken (though he's spent the majority of his adult career here, and he's proven his Minnesota chops by getting us our NHL franchise back as mayor of St. Paul after the state was disgraced by the departure of the North Stars for Dallas. Don't underestimate  the significance of the hockey thing: I know independents who voted for him almost entirely for this reason).

2. Past statements: Al has often opened fundraisers and rallies for other candidates by talking about how much he hates Republicans, and there's certainly fodder for attack in his past. That said, the Republicans certainly won't be able to pick a fight over drug use and partying (not that this in any way disqualifies someone from office... it's probably best not to have someone who's planned his life around his political career from the beginning in the Senate), as there are some pretty hilarious pictures of a young and hairy Norm floating around out there. Also, if partisanship is the issue, Coleman's support for the war should be at least as big an albatross as Franken's most outrageous statements.

Once again I should reiterate that I'll likely be supporting him in the primary. To add to all the good things in Chris's post, Franken did the party-building thing like no one else (who wasn't running for President) in 2006. He campaigned and raised money for candidates all across the state, most prominently Tim Walz (though Walz's ace campaign manager, Kerry Greely, has signed on to run the campaign of Franken's rival, Ciresi). While Al has some weaknesses, he is a certifiable good guy and certainly worthy of support from the progressive blogosphere.


sorry (0.00 / 0)
but i just cannot take al franken seriously. i'm glad he is running and i'll be pleased to see him pick up a republican senate seat. but a comedian? come on.

now i know the last movement politician (reagan) was a c-list actor but, come on, lets get serious.

al franken doesnt touch wellstone with a 10 foot pole.


I'd Like To Know What You Do For A Living (4.00 / 2)
So I can make sure to never vote for anyone who does what you do.

(This is a tribute to your sound judgment.  I've totally accepted your logic!)

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
You have a point (0.00 / 0)
Comedians will have a more substantial hurdle to cross than your average actor-turned-politico, because after all, this could just be one more piece of sketch comedy.

However, his comedic sensibilites are dry and satirical - and he can ad-lib while dancing the tango.  All those skills, coupled with his strong grasp of the issues and the political skills he's honed on Air America and while promoting his recent books will make him a formidable challenge to Coleman.

Ciresi will likely have the advantage in the caucus endorsement process.  He is the "insider". He has "played well" with others in the past by stepping down and not challenging the endorsed candidate in the primaries - a very big deal for the mainstream Democrats in MN. 

My fervent hope is that these two strong candidates don't get caught up in messy fight over who should be the nominee, so that they can save their energy for the real race against Coleman.  Rod Grams, to my mind, is no real threat to win anything.

Of course, this is Minnesota - so we have to wonder who the Independence Party will run in this race.  I'm hoping for Tammy Lee (she lost to Keith Ellison for the 5th district in 2006) to enter this race.  If she and Franken double-team Coleman like she and Ellison slapped down Alan Fine - he just might end up in third place come November 2008.



"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
Franken is most definitely a movement candidate. (4.00 / 1)
I agree with this post 100%, for some reason our side has a "fear" of celebrity candidates, but Franken is the real deal, he's done all the research, knows the people, and is in it, to win it.

He should be netroots endorsed for sure.

-C.


Problematic (0.00 / 0)
Franken attracts national attention but he's been little more than a vulgar clown for so many years it's hard to take him seriously, no matter how fond he is of his own voice and his own opinion.  Given a choice between Franken and Coleman there's no question I'd choose Franken, but how much crossover appeal will he have?  Things in Minnesota are trending democratic, but that didn't help in the 2006 governor's race where we lost a seat we should have retaken due to a poor choice of candidate.  The long term goal is reaching a Lieberman-less 60 seats in the Senate.  Norm needs to go.  Is Franken going to deliver?  Dunno....

Will Mike Ciresi "Deliver"? (0.00 / 0)
?

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
Jesse Ventura n/t (0.00 / 0)


John McCain opposes the GI Bill.

[ Parent ]
Jesse Ventura was a Mixed Bag (0.00 / 0)
Mostly he made some good rhetorical points - and you really never knew what he might say next.

For all the talk of Ventura For President - I doubt it would ever have happened.  The liberal (or should I say, "progressive" to make it sound better?) voting laws in MN helped him.  A significant number of his votes came from first-time (only time?) voters that were urged to register and vote on election day by their friends.  I worked at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis at the time - and it was amazing.  While waiting for a campus bus, or walking through the student union - one could hear people saying things like, "Hey, did you vote for Jesse yet?" - "You better go vote for Jesse!" - "let's go vote!".

His humor and straight talk really connected - not to mention that the other two candiates were basically lumps of clay on the campaign trail.

I doubt such a "phenomenon" could have transferred to a national election  - unless and until there were same-day registration across the nation.  Furthermore, MN is progressive (they are right, it DOES feel better) about lowering barriers to alternative candidates getting on the ballot - another substantial roadblock to a national candidate that is not in one of the mainstream parties (MSP), as Nader and many others can attest.

I was mildly amused when he won (I voted Green Party that election), but he gained my favor when he refused to ask his wife to host parties at the Capitol and do the rest of the functions expected of the First Lady without compensation.  When pressed for his reasoning, as no other First Lady had ever balked at their "duty", he said something to the effect that - "Well, I'm thinking about the future.  What are you gonna do - 8-12 years from now when MN elects a woman Governor? Are you gonna tell her Fortune 500, or otherwise successful professional, husband to quit his 7-figure job, put his career on hold, come over to the Governor's mansion, take off his shoes, and bake some cookies for visitors?  I doubt it.  I mean, its time to get serious, here."

It wasn't all good - but it was damned entertaining - and it could have been much worse.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
My point was simply (0.00 / 0)
That Minnesota is not averse to voting for characters.

John McCain opposes the GI Bill.

[ Parent ]
Caught me during my first cuppa' joe (0.00 / 0)
when my neurons were rejoicing after the long, dark night without caffeine.

Didn't mean to challenge the attention-span

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
From MN (4.00 / 1)
I have now spoken to Franken a number of times, and despite my first reaction to his candidacy, I think he does have some real substance.

I, along with many people in MN, am worried about how he will be accepted in Greater MN or in the suburban ring of the cities.  He has a great deal of baggage that can really upset certain constituencies.

With that said (and I am still worried), he is doing all the right things.  He has a ton of money, he's visiting small groups of active voters all across the state.  He visited the local Drinking Liberally months ago, and has a real head start on the down and dirty grassroots organizing that so impresses MN activists.

I am reserving my own support, he has not won me over yet, but he making all the right moves.

-jason The UpTake


Not missing a damn thing (4.00 / 2)
That YouTube is powerful and reminds me more than a little of my Dad, even though I'm older than Franken. I must have heard the bootstrap story 100 times and never got tired of it. Families who survived with Social Security Disability and Survivor benefits -- you don't forget that, any more than Al has.

I wondered why he didn't run in 2006, seemed like he could have walked into that open seat. Then listening to him talk about Norm Coleman on AA for the umpteeeth time, I finally got it. He hates that false mother f*cker with a passion that will not die, the way he stepped in on Wellstone's seat. Al can barely wait to grab that punk by the scruff of his neck and deliver some pain.


Franken is the real deal (4.00 / 1)
He's very smart, very educated, very serious and very progressive. He is NOT "just a comedian". Al Franken is more than qualified to be a US Senator.

And his "Bar Fight Primary" score is absolutely through the roof. He's tough. He wrestled in school. He doesn't back down from a fight. When O'Reilly shouted at him, he shouted back.

Barney Frank is often very effective with biting and sarcastic humor that slices and dices conservative Republicans. Franken is Barney Frank times ten.


Missing Peace First and Universal Single Payer Health Care (0.00 / 0)
There has been so much marketing packaging of candidates, that progressives wait to hear real commitment. I, at least, am not hearing real commitment. Our current DFL senator has voted to fund the Iraq war and voted for FISA, so I didn't want the "change" in Washington, to be that Democrats instead of Republicans fund and support the war or that Democrats instead of Republicans support the continued erosion of civil liberties and law, also not throughly reviewing FISA legislations. Progressives stand for principles not marketing statements. Progressives stand for principles not "say you are moderate so you as a candidate sell out to lobbyists". Progressives stand for principles not let's give another 6 month chance in Iraq, every though every day we spend in Iraq makes it worse.  Progressives stand for principles like Peace First not strategic war is sometimes necessary like Al has said. Does Al get that peace strategies are way different than war strategies and that war is like a tar baby, there is no such thing as a little bit of war.  Progressives stand for principles like Universal Single Payer Health Care for just universal health care means we pay whatever the health care insurers (pirates) making huge overwhelming profits while we get denial health care and still up paying directly for health care.

So all candidates look potentially good. Yet when those candidates have not committed then why should progressives commit? We are waiting, just say

Peace First

People First

in a clearly committed way that shows you will have a Wellstone commitment and not a Coleman commitment.

 


Ideal Movement Candidate would have started with the grass roots (0.00 / 0)
  Sorry to pop your balloon about Al Franken. But there is little grass roots there. As someone active in the grass roots of the progressive movement in Minnesota, I know the the grass roots, and they are not Al.

Grass roots campaigns are built with an impassioned throng of supporters, a principled leader with a clear vision of where the path to progress lies, and a voice that speaks for the soul of the people. That grass roots leader would have to be ahead of the general populace on the issues: against the war from the start; supporting single payer universal health care before the rest of us, and so on. Al Franken was for the war when it started. Last I looked his web site showed he does not favor single payer health care.

Franken started his campaign with his celebrity and  work with Air America. He built his campaign by dialing a bunch of Minnesota wealthy individuals, like the Pohlad family, owners of the Minnesota Twins, and a bunch of his Hollywood friends. With a large bundle of start-up cash he then hired a California telemarketer that specializes in small donations.  In other words, he telemarketed himself into being a grass roots guy.

If you really want a grass roots ideal progressive movement candidate, Jack Nelson-Palmeyer, a peace and Justice activist and Professor would be that person. Currently he is considering running, and would lend an incredible air of authenticity and vision to the race if he does run. Keep your eye on him.


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