Guam Results Thread

by: Chris Bowers

Sat May 03, 2008 at 05:00


Polls in Guam closed at 6 a.m. eastern. Eight delegate slots are at stake, each worth one half of a pledged delegate, for a total of four pledged delegates.

While I am not currently awake, you can use this thread to discuss results. The Guam elections page is here, and the Democratic Convention Watch results page is here.

On the off-chance that you might not want to discuss Guam, this is also an open thread.

UPDATE (tremayne): This site is fairly current on results. It says Obama is up by 26% but I'm not sure what percent of the vote has been counted.

Chris Bowers :: Guam Results Thread

Tags: , , (All Tags)
Print Friendly View Send As Email
Guam Results Thread | 25 comments
5 am in Philly (0.00 / 0)
That's dedication.
good planning rather (0.00 / 0)
You can schedule posts to be published at a later time.
[ Parent ]
Any clue where results will be posted? N/T (0.00 / 0)

[ Parent ]
I was talking about me NT (0.00 / 0)

[ Parent ]
Hilarious (0.00 / 0)
Check out the link Chris posted to Guam's election website - all the info is for the 20006 election.  That inspires confidence.
Guam doesn't count (4.00 / 2)
It's a caucus state..er..territory! Only territories with primaries count.

Fun fact: "A curious wrinkle: The village of Inarajan voted on April 26 because the caucus conflicted with the fiesta honoring its patron saint."

They do something similar Sugarland, TX. They hold elections on the day Tom DeLay was indicted.

Guam updates from the wires...
Pacific News Center: "Guam - Voting for the Democratic caucus in Talafofo was delayed because ballots and boxes were not immediately delivered to the precint."

Pacific News Center: "Higher voter turnout caused a ballot shortage in the village of Barrigada. John Paul Fejerang, precint chairperson of Barrigada, revealed that the 200 ballots given to his village have run by mid-afternoon. Fejerang said they have already requested for extra ballots to be printed. He said officials have been surprised by the large voters' turnout.

Pacific News Center seems like a good source for Guam updates.

http://www.pacificnewscenter.c...

CNN: "The polls closed on Guam at 8 p.m. local time (6 a.m. ET). Hand tabulation of the ballots is expected to take approximately three hours. In the island's 2006 gubernatorial election, 55,311 people were registered to vote. The Democratic candidate received nearly 19,000 votes, and although voter turnout today is steady, election officials say it is not expected to be unusually high."
http://politicalticker.blogs.c...

John McCain

Obama web ads in Guam (4.00 / 1)
Every news site I find in Guam has an Obama web ad.

Pacific News Center - 4 ads on front page
ABC7Guam - 3 ads on front page
FOX6Guam - 4 ads on front page
K57Newstalk - 2 ads on front page
Power98FM - 2 ads on front page
The KAT 105.5 - 3 ads on front page

All of those may be owned by the same group -- they're all linked via Pacific News Center.

I saw no political ads from either Clinton or Obama on KUAM another Guam outlet.

If this thing drags on thru June maybe OpenLeft should cover the Puerto Rico primary from the ground in Puerto Rico. I think you could probably hold a mini fundraiser to swing for two airfares and a weekend in a hotel. You all deserve it.

John McCain

[ Parent ]
Yep (4.00 / 1)
I'm booking airfare now.
[ Parent ]
More from Pacific News Center (0.00 / 0)
"1:45 a.m. Guam - With 11 out of 19 precincts reporting, Senator Barack Obama is leading Senator Hillary Clinton by 6 percentage points. The total preference count so far is Obama with 768 to Clinton's 680."

Obama by 6% so far.

John McCain

[ Parent ]
another link (4.00 / 1)
Is Guam Pacific Daily News.  The latest news sounds familiar:

"There are many new Democrats today," Perez said, noting that many people registered - "Democrats for a day" - to vote in the caucus. "I am so surprised. I never thought it would be like this."

It seems like they expected 1000 and got many more.  They are still counting ballots.
 

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

take a while (0.00 / 0)
It could take a while, as only 5 people are doing the counting.
Guam - Disproportional Representation (0.00 / 0)
While we wait for results I have to raise a question/issue.

Guam is a small island (210 square miles) with a population of about 175,000 people.   Guam will send 8 pledged delegates with a 1/2 vote each and 5 super delegates.    

No matter how you calculate it, Guam is getting more representation per capita than any US state.   If we used the same math in Indiana, they would be sending 288 pledged delegates to the convention instead of 72 (based on a population of 6.3 million).  

Does anyone know how they decided to give Guam such disproportional representation?  

I could be wrong... (0.00 / 0)
But I read somewhere that the DNC gives more delegates to states/territories that hold later elections.  This was to encourage more states/territories to spread the primary dates out.  Another bad decision by the DNC.
[ Parent ]
Well, (0.00 / 0)
it has had the effect of spreading out the primaries but it's more accurate to say that it was to discourage everyone voting on the same day (Super Tuesday).

Ideally, they would have done the same thing but moved up the final date from early June to, say, early or mid-May.

That way we would have likely avoided the 6-week break before PA, which is what really messed up this process.

[ Parent ]
Yes. (0.00 / 0)
Some sort of quid pro quo involving free Guam vacations for DNC staff.
[ Parent ]
Similar to DC (0.00 / 0)
4 pledged delegate votes for 175K population, vs 15 pledged delegate votes for 590K population. 5 Superdels compared to 24 for the district. DC actually does a little better, per capita.
[ Parent ]
56-40 (0.00 / 0)
Those are total votes, not percentages.

http://www.pacificnewscenter.c...

For Obama, that is n/t (0.00 / 0)

[ Parent ]
Beta voting by location (0.00 / 0)
I just finished up
http://www.functionalforums.co...

Where you can vote and your votes will show up by location.

I've added gas prices and Hillary vs obama.  Anyone got other ideas that they would want to see?


The liberal wiki
Send an email to terra@liberalwiki.com

207-121 Obama (0.00 / 0)
Obama is winning with 3 districts counted!

By the way, if it's a caucus, why do they have to count votes?  Also, I saw a picture of someone using a voting machine... at a caucus?

Results here:  http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pb...

it's one of those caucuses (0.00 / 0)
that seems just like a primary.  New Mexico was similar -- let's hope Guam manages to count faster.

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.
[ Parent ]
As Ordot goes, so goes the nation! (4.00 / 1)
PNC: "11:10 p.m. Guam - The official results for the Democratic Party's primary election in two areas reveal that Senator Barack Obama took Ordot while Senator Hillary Clinton won in Maina."

Maina? Hah! Ordot is totally a better indicator of electability.

John McCain

But (0.00 / 0)
Everyone knows that Ordot is an area that doesn't count. We have no chance of beating McCain in Ordot come November.
[ Parent ]
Not only are we going to Ordot (4.00 / 1)
.. we're going to Maina and Talafofo and Barrigada and Dededo and Yigo, and we're going to Agana Heights and Mongmong Toto Maite and Santa Rita. And we're going to Umatac and Piti and Merizo and Mangilao. And then we're going to Washington, D.C. To take back the White House! YEAARRGH!!

John McCain
[ Parent ]
And (4.00 / 1)
Too many lattes are consumed in Ordot.
[ Parent ]
Guam Results Thread | 25 comments
Donate to Open Left







QUICK HITS

Friends of the Earth thanks the OpenLeft community for the ideas you generate and your contributions to the progressive movement.
As an anti-spam measure, there is a 24-hour waiting period after registering before new users can comment.
blog advertising is good for you
blog advertising is good for you
LIBERAL INSTITUTIONS
STATE BLOGS
SEARCH

   

Advanced Search

Home | RSS/XML Feed | Register | Contact

  © OpenLeft 2007-2009, Powered by SoapBlox