Keep Tinker Bell Alive! John McSame, King of the Tinker Bell Conservatives

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat May 03, 2008 at 20:30


Wikipedia:

Barrie's fairies are dependent on the belief of others to survive. In one famous scene, she [Tinkerbell] is dying, but will survive if enough people believe in fairies. In the play the characters make a plea to the children watching to sustain her by shouting out "I believe in fairies," and clapping, an example of "breaking the fourth wall."

Dday  over at Digby's place takes note of the latest squirming in McSame's futile attempts to wriggle out of his "100 years" comment about staying in Iraq:

The unstoppable whine from the RNC over Democratic message dominance on John McCain's "100 years in Iraq" comments has now morphed into "you stole footage from a terrorist Michael Moore!"

Seems they used the same stock footage!

    Q: What's better than seeing the GOP on defense?
    A: Seeing how bad they are at it.
That's just beginning, of course.  But doesn't get much better for the GOP.  Sure the media is totally in the tank for them.  But it's all just more gobbledygook, and it's all defense.  
Paul Rosenberg :: Keep Tinker Bell Alive! John McSame, King of the Tinker Bell Conservatives
The bottom line has already been written on this one a while back-the January 4 New Yorker, in fact, when Hendrik Hertzberg wrote:

"...what the context shows, I think, is that yanking that sound bite out of context isn't really all that unfair. McCain wants to stay in Iraq until no more Americans are getting killed, no matter how long it takes and how many Americans get killed achieving that goal -- that is, the goal of not getting any more Americans killed. And once that goal is achieved, we'll stay.

"He'll see your fifty years and raise you fifty. But the cards are blank."

And that's the thing.  Perhaps even more damning than how long McSame is willing to stay there-he has no frikken clue what he's going to do there!  There is no plan. Zip! Nada! Nothing!  We just stay there until everyone shooting at us runs out of bullets.

Unfortunately, of course, they're mostly using IEDs and such, and it doesn't look like they're going to run out anytime soon.  But... details, details.

And this very same point is what Dday ends up writing about in the bowels of his current comment, four months almost to the day after Hertzberg's piece:

the bottom line is, as Ron Brownstein notes in an excellent piece, McCain hasn't explained what all those troops would be doing in Iraq, and how long he'd be willing to keep combat forces there until such a peaceful presence would be reached.

    First, if McCain doesn't envision a 100-year American front-line combat presence in Iraq, how long is he willing to keep U.S. forces in that role? So far, all he has said is that the United States should withdraw only if it concludes that the Iraq mission is unachievable or when it has achieved success, which he defines as the establishment of "a peaceful, stable, prosperous, democratic state." [...]

    McCain has not said when, but he has pledged that Iraqi units will eventually assume the major combat responsibility. That prompts the next question McCain should address: What would then become the mission for the U.S. forces he wants to maintain in Iraq? McCain hasn't specified. But he has suggested that their job would be to deter external aggression, much as in South Korea where our troops "served as a buffer against invasion from North Korea."

    In that example, however, the U.S. and South Korea agreed that North Korea posed a threat. The American troop presence in Germany and Japan long rested on a similar agreement about the potential danger from the Soviet Union, notes Ivo Daalder, a Brookings Institution senior fellow in foreign policy.

    Although the U.S. considers Iran the most pressing external danger to Iraq, "the overwhelming majority of Iraqis don't see Iran as a threat," Daalder says. "They see it as a partner." If a threat from Iran isn't the motivation, Al Qaeda might provide the most likely justification for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq. But if Al Qaeda remains a threat there, conditions would likely not meet McCain's standard that American troops are no longer at risk.
McCain and the RNC's explanation is gobbledygook, and while a significant portion of the traditional media has lapped it up, Brownstein raises the crucial questions. McCain wouldn't have combat forces leave Iraq until it was stable, and won't say what would meet the standard of stability, so until he does, it's natural to assume he would spend 100 years there or more trying to find the pony.

Or maybe the pony is the wrong thing to focus on.  Maybe it's Tinker Bell.  Maybe it's just a matter of believing in fairies hard enough and everything will just sort itself out like a Disney movie.

And maybe, just maybe, that's John McSame's answer to just about everything: Firm, decisive statements that don't bear any real relationship to accomplishing anything.  Unless, of course, you believe hard enough, so that Tinker Bell doesn't die, in which case we all live happily ever after!

Of course!  How could I forget!  That's how he'll end the fighting in Iraq!

"One of the things I would do if I were President would be to sit the Shiites and the Sunnis down and say, 'Stop the bullshit.'"

Just him and Tinker Bell.

And that's also how cutting $65 billion in earmarks can solve our budget crisis, even while we spend several times that in Iraq (never mind the long term costs that already reach up to $3 trillion, and would increase by that much more under McCain's best-case scenario), but not cut any of the important earmark programs that pesky real life people say have helped save their lives--like the woman at Lehigh Valley Hospital with ovarian cancer who was treated in a clinical trial funded with $80 million in congressional earmarks.  Or even aid to Israel.

Oh, and by the way, it's not $65 billion in earmarks he'll cut, but $18 billion.  But he'll still cut the deficit, and cure cancer, too!  So long as you believe and keep Tinker Bell alive!

That's how eliminating the gas tax will put money in consumers' pockets, even though the gas companies can just raise the price and add the difference to their already astronomical windfall profits.

That's how making Bush's tax cuts permanent will fix the economy-and the mega-deficits-that Bush gave us in the first place.  (Really, I need a link for this?)

In short, when you get right down to it, there's a striking consistency to all of John McCain's "solutions" to the problems we face-just like McBush before him they are all fundamentally faith-based.

Only this time, the faith is in fairies!

"I can smell


the fairy dust!


I really,


really,


really


can!"


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It just reminds me of an analogy ... (4.00 / 3)
this reminds me what MacArthur said about the Japanese(that I read in a bio of Mr. "I Shall Return") .. he believed in being on the attack .. he said that when ever they were on offense .. the Japanese performed as well as any soldiers anywhere .. however .. when they had to play defense .. they were horrid .. they were lost .. clueless .. and didn't know what to do .. I think this applies to the RNC and Republicans as well .. it is why Democrats need to go on offense .. because the Republicans don't know how to play defense .. and the more they have to play defense .. the dumber they look .. just look at all of McBush's whining lately .. it just sucks that I don't see much of this on the nightly news yet because of the ongoing Democratic primary  

I Agree--This Is What Landslides Are Made Of (4.00 / 2)
This is where we get our realigning election from--our 100+ EV presidential landslide, our 60+ Senate seats, and a gain of 50+ House seats.

It's not just that folks are fleeing the GOP like rats leaving a sinking ship. Or that voters under 30 are now 58%-33% Dem/GOP.  Or the McBush is at 70%+ disapproval.

It's that they are totally unprepared to play defense.  And if the media somehow gets shocked out of total sycophancy sometime in the last 6 weeks or so, the GOP could lose even worse than I suggested above.  


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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But then the question becomes: (0.00 / 0)
How do you get Democratic candidates to actually attack?  

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First Thing We Do Is Kill All The Consultants! (0.00 / 0)
Ah, would that it were that simple!

But, seriously, the DC consultant class and other carriers of Versailles CW are definitely a plague.  But challengers generally are more willing to attack, and more likely to have campaign managers who are interested in winning, so there's that, for one.  There are also 527s.  So, we have some hope, at least.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Do Democrats look this (0.00 / 0)
pathetic when we're on defense? No wonder the wimpy frame sticks.

Where have you been the last ten years? (0.00 / 0)
  Yes.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn

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If I can butt in (4.00 / 1)
the key to playing defense (and this is an old field hockey player talking) is to deprive your opponent of opportunity.

You take the ball away and redistribute it to your own team.

We would be alright if the Democrats could learn to pay defense as defense.

Montani semper liberi


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I LOVED Playing Defense In Street Football (4.00 / 1)
I never played serious "organized" sports.  I was way too much of a nerd--although I was encouraged to go out for long distance running, which I was pretty damn good at, back before anyone ever heard of "jogging."

But I absolutely loved playing street football, and it was all about the pass rush.

On one occassion, I even managed to pick the semi-shotgun-formation snap out of the air before it reached the quarterback.

Boy were they pissed!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Howard Dean deserves credit for this (4.00 / 3)
   I've had issues with Dean's relative failure to expand the influence of true progressives in the Democratic Party, but the truth of the matter is that if the DNC were led by a DLC stiff like, say, the execrable Harold Ford, an ad like this would never have even been conceived. Too "disrespectful" of our esteemed and honorable Republican opponent.

 Reason #567 to support Barack Obama is Dean's retention as DNC chair. Hilary would never stand for such a nasty attack on her good friend.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


The strange hollowness of John McCain (0.00 / 0)
It's not just that his positions are based on wishful thinking. It's that he doesn't even have reasons for his positions. He just... has them.

I can't believe there are Democrats who are freaking out about this election.  


The only reason I am freaking out .. (0.00 / 0)
is because the press are McCain's "base" ... and they can cover up a lot of McCain's stupidity .. if they chose .. and it seems like that is what they'll try to do

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That's Why He's McSame As Bush (0.00 / 0)
They have different personalities and histories, but they are actually the exact same person underneath:

The Decider!


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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You're assuming... (0.00 / 0)
  ...that we have an honest media and an informed electorate.

 If we had either, McCain would lose 60-40. If we had both, McCain would lose 80-20.

 But we don't. Hence the handwringing.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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If no one is calling him out on this (4.00 / 1)
then it won't hurt him.  If Clinton and Obama just started hitting him from two different sides, then it woudl be almost impossible for him to defend himself.

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