Blogosphere Diversity Notes

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 12:57


Of all the conversations in which I was involved in Yearly Kos, it struck me how frequently I ended up in discussions centering on the demographics and diversity of the progressive, political blogosphere.  On Open Left, Jenifer has raised many of these discussions in a series of posts over the last week, which you can read here, here and here.  I would like to continue these discussions, and so, in the extended entry, here are some thoughts on the many different ways in which I saw this issue raised:
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  1. Online Support for Hillary Clinton. During the Yearly Kos polling panel, there was the inevitable question about why Clinton only polls at around 9-10% in most online activist polls, while she polls closer to 40% nationwide. I have seen this question arise in many forums, so I would like to address it again. The key reason behind this difference is, I believe, demographic. Every single Democratic and Democratic-leaning group among whom Clinton polls at a lower rate than her national average is over-represented in the progressive, political blogosphere: seculars, men, self-identified liberals, those with college degrees, younger voters, high-income voters, and white voters. Given this, it is simply inevitable-and far less mysterious-as to why she polls lower online than she does nationally. I do not think it is the only reason she polls lower online, but it is certainly one of the two or three main reasons.

  2. Stagnating Progressive Blogosphere Traffic. This was a question I have raised on numerous occasions, including during my very first post on Open Left and at the Yearly Kos Blog Theory panel. In the end, after a  lot of thought, I believe the reason progressive blogosphere traffic is stagnating is because we have reached a saturation point within the demographic groups who make up the majority of our audience. Among the demographics constituencies who make up the core of blog readership, there just are not many more highly politically engaged progressives for us to reach.  As such. if progressive blogosphere traffic is going to increase, it can probably only come from reaching larger percentages of the progressive and politically active among groups who are currently under-represented in our audience: women, lower-income activists, older activists, non-white activists, etc.  It is in this way that issues surrounding diversity in the blogosphere are directly connected to issues surround the continued growth and traffic levels of the progressive blogosphere.

  3. Reaching New Groups. In discussions outside of specific panels at Yearly Kos, we discussed how one major factor in the current demographic make-up of the blogosphere is the location from where people read progressive blogs. Specifically, most people read from work. In order to read blogs from work, one needs regular broadband access at work. Those who have regular broadband access at work tend to work in fields like academia, technology, and other white-collar industries. As such, in addition to having now voices within the progressive blogosphere, attracting a more diverse audience will possibly require presenting some of our key content at different times of the day to better reflect when some people have broadband access. Anecdotally speaking, later in the evening and at night in the progressive blogosphere, open threads tend to be more common, and that content simply is not as engaging as much of what is written earlier in the day. As such, an effort to produce better content later in the day that tailors to people who can't read blogs at work might be quite beneficial. This is just one idea though, and many more can be found in Jenifer's diary on the Yearly Kos diversity panel.

  4. Finally, I want to retract an observation what I have stated in the recent past about the progressive blogosphere, that "our readership is disproportionately drawn from some demographics that are often considered predominately Republican: male, white, high-income, non-union members." Upon further reflection, it simply is not the case that progressive blog readers come from traditionally, or even current, pro-Republican demographic groups.  While it is true that the progressive blogosphere is disproportionately white, male and high-income, digging a little further into the demographics shows that it is actually very "non-white and / or non-Christian," with a heavy emphasis on the non-Christian side of that formulation. According to a February 2007 survey of MyDD, and to demographic Tuesday polls on Dailykos, the GLBT community represent a large, 14-18% of the readership of those blogs, while "non-Christians," make up an eye-popping 70-75% of the two communities. As such, at least when it comes to Dailykos and MyDD, the demographics of the readership are anything but typically Republican. White non-Christians and the GLBT community alike both vote at around 70-75% Democratic these days, making them core Democratic constituencies. Highly political engaged white non-Christians and members of the GLBT community form the demographic core of the progressive blogosphere, and also represent about 17% of the national electorate.

As I discussed in Jenifer's most recent diary, I think the last point is particular useful because it shows that the progressive blogosphere is actually quite representative of a large segment of the Democratic and progressive base. I have often talked about the progressive and Democratic coalition as a "non-white and / or non-Christian coalition" (see a recent Open Left post, Toward A Pluralism Strategy for more on this) and I think one of the fundamental issues we are hitting at in these discussions is how the "non-Christian" and "non-white" parts can better work together.  Unfortunately, I don't think the current discussions between those two major constituencies--both of which are extremely internally diverse--within the Democratic Party and progressive ecosystem is particularly open and healthy right now.  Hopefully, however, if both "groups" can understand that, when taken together, they form the growing, majority core of both the current and future governing majority in this country, that can serve as an important starting point to help improve the dialogue. It is certainly a dialogue I would like to see continued here at Open Left.


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I too (0.00 / 0)
found myself in a lot of discussions about diversity, but that is probably a function of having been Jen's roommate and a good friend to kid oakland. 

Chris, I think you are accurate when you write that it was a topic of concern because there did not appear to be much that was actually accomplished between last year and this year, despite much talk.  There was no formal effort to increase the diversity of the attendance.  kid oakland's efforts were an ad hoc push, after he discovered a lot of the folks he wanted to lead the regional caucuses were unable to attend due to financial reasons.

His efforts were made much harder without the infrastructural support.  There was no entity he could use to collect the funds and was stuck piecing things together via paypal.  He spent a lot of time on logistics, taking away from his ability to actually increase funding and thus get more attendees.  17 out of 1,500 is not a lot.  He tried emailing you to use BlogPAC, but you were in the middle of launching this site and it didn't make it through.

We do need to break out of the silos and form coalitions between different blogospheres and organizations.  I believe there will be more action and less talk on this topic over the next year.  It is already starting to happen here.  I am confident that we will find a way to put infrastructure in place to create more diversity grants to push folks in and more coalitions to pull other folks to the event.

Perhaps it is best left to another discussion, but we need to address how we ensure that more time is dedicated to growing and strengthening the netroots movement.  Your panel was one of the few that actually did that.  It is too important not to be a main focal point of the conference.


BlogPac (0.00 / 0)
actually, with kid oakland's project, the issue wasn't really just the launch of the site, but with simultaneously re-branding BlogPac as a more open giver of small grants via the infrastructure contest. Several people were asking me for BlogPac money, and I thought it would be best to open up the process and solicit grant ideas from a wide range of people. Unfortunately, we got so many great ideas, that process won't be finished until next Monday.

Maybe it is because I am not the sort of guy who usually likes large gatherings, that diversity grants need to be made first in other areas. Grants to hlep more people blog, or to build new, more racially diverse, Open Left / netroots type orgs. But, that is all int he planning stage, and we will have to see where this takes us.



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Off-topic, but (0.00 / 0)
you might want to post a little note on the BlogPac home page, about the Entrepreneur Contest, with the new date. I've seen a few people wondering what happened with that.

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Gotcha (0.00 / 0)
I think the rub at that particular moment was that what Paul really needed was an entity to be able to run checks through, rather than transferring money on pay pal.  To do this right money needs to be collected on ActBlue then paid out to the individual recipients.  I don't believe (though I haven't asked Paul about this) that he was looking for money, though that could have been part of the ask.

The idea of the infrastructure contest is a great one.  And you are right, the diversity grants and efforts have to go into a broader direction than just getting folks to Netroots Nation.  It is just one piece of the puzzle.


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Diversity in your QuickHits Section (0.00 / 0)
I know it's a very small part of one site of a very large community, but I try and make a difference with my posts to this site's Quickhits section. It always bothered me to follow intense debates in the LGBT community with tremendous implications for the progressive, queer community, and not see any coverage on mydd (when you wrote there).

I'm thinking particularly about the Human Rights Campaign endorsement of Joe Lieberman. There was a grassroots movement of Human Rights Campaign members revoking their memberships over the Lieberman endorsement. Mydd coverage could have added some more clout to that movement (especially since you pointed out the large GLBT readership.. not to mention that many heterosexuals are also members of HRC).

Anyway, I try to post news primarily impacting the LGBT, people of color and feminist online communities in the Quick Hits Section. I suggest you keep a casual glance at them. You never know what might spark an idea into your head about reaching out to those communities on a particulat issue.


Yes indeed (0.00 / 0)
I certainly appreciate your posts there. Also, I need to think of a way to make Quick Hits a more integral part of the site, ala Breaking Blue on MyDD. I will keep you posted as that develops.

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Something to keep in mind (0.00 / 0)
I like the idea of Breaking Blue/Quick Hits, but one thing that is important to remember is that it is one-way communication. Putting something controversial or even just an opinion on it really turns me off. I've always thought of it as a place to link to other interesting content, sort of like the links that a lot of places drop into open threads...

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Strategy (0.00 / 0)
Chris, thanks for the insightful analysis.

It seems that the GOP has done well in the past of capturing the large demographics of whites and Christians but recently to the point of alienating non-whites and non-Christians. Democrats have capitalized on the remaining cross-hatched demographic. It's great that the netroots are energized although for better reverberation of that energy throughout the entire Democratic and progressive constituency the netroots should reach out to include more ethnic and income diverse people.

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It is the key to the future (0.00 / 0)
But it also makes our job more difficult than Republicans had in forging their coalition. "Non-white" and "non-Christian" are both extremely diverse groups in and of themselves. Further, it is not like everyone in the Dem and prog coalitions will fit even those two groups, thus making the coalitions even more diverse. Being the party of "everyone else" isn't easy, but it is the road we have no choice but to follow.

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Non-Christian (0.00 / 0)
I'm not sure how this plays out among the leftblog readership, but certainly among the gatekeepers, Jews are tremendously overrepresented. Of the 'small-head' bloggers that I read, about half are Jews (and I'm willing to bet that a high proportion of people who comment in this thread will be Jews, too).

As a Jew, I keep thinking about this when I read people bemoaning the fact of the 'white male' progressive blogosphere. I'm not really sure what to _do_ with this, though. Jews are disproportionately educated, wealthy, political, progressive, and, well, opinionated. And this probably holds true of gays, too. To the extent that blogs reward those things for structural reasons, encouraging diversity is an uphill battle. (Which isn't to say it's an unnecessary one.)

I  think that Paul Rosenberg's comments about 'white privilege' (though I think he called it 'supremacy,' which seems too loaded to me) are very important, and in the US, at least, the majority of Jews and gays benefit from that privilege. So despite the disproportionate voices of Jews and gays in the blogs, we still suffer from a pretty severe lack of diversity. But I also think if we want to address 'diversity' in the leftblogs, we must be a lot clearer than we have been, and not simply point to the reliable villains of 'white males' and the remedy of 'more diversity.'

Which diversity, exactly? Reflecting what institution? The Democratic Party? The country? The progressive movement? What does our goal look like, exactly? I hope this is a false choice, but do we prefer a smaller, more diverse blogosphere, or a larger, less-diverse one? Are we talking about the 'small head'? The readership? Both? Are we talking about integrating into the blogosphere currently-existing progressive institutions that contain more diversity? Unions, say, and churches? If so, must this integration take place online? Is our goal to increase membership in dKos of people of color to ... 15%? 20% How many African Americans? How many Asian Americans, how many Native Americans? dKos and the other tops five community sites? Do we not care about membership in those sites as much as we care about balance across the leftblogs? So if dKos stays 96% white, that's fine as long as 'majority minority' blogs get a proportionate amount of traffic?

I don't know. I keep waiting for someone a great deal smarter than I to write a post explaining where we want to be in non-fuzzy detail. We all agree on the vague direction (toward diversity), but I think that in some ways our agreement undermines our ability to act. Because we agree, we haven't had to hash out the particulars of our goal.


Non-fuzzy detail (0.00 / 0)
Great questions, but I'm not sure I can provide the big picture without always being fuzzy in the details. I do know that it is something I will work on incorporating in two major projects I have coming down the pipe, and details are always easier to provide in discrete, targeted locations.

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You do a good job... (0.00 / 0)
...by listing specifics, of pointing up the badness of fit between requirements for diversity (even - Chris's point to me below - if undertaken voluntarily by bloggers) and the essential nature of blogging.

As soon as you contemplate standards, or goals or whatever, you need to designate how those standards or goals are going to be set, and how performance will be judged. In each case, how naturally comprises by whom.

Even within a blog like this, there's an inherent tension between the place being some kind of community and the fact that it's a proprietary concern.

Obviously, the proprietors of a blog can do what they like with it. But things get murky if what they're doing can be taken as representing members of the community.


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One of my daydreams (0.00 / 0)
is a community blog that's also community owned; and I'm often surprised that none (far as I know) already exists.

And your comment brought to mind a question: which institutions have successfully embraced the sort of diversity we're talking about? Are any of them possible models for the leftblogs? The only one that springs immediately to my mind is the military, but I can't see how any lessons learned there are transferable.


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What do you mean (0.00 / 0)
Community-owned?
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What do you mean (0.00 / 0)
Community-owned? PrairieStateBlue is entirely economically self-supporting without anyone making a profit off of it. It is community administered as far as we can go (though because of it sometimes we've had anarchy problems). Our problem is that while it is communal, very few of us seem to be invested in its success. In order to be successfully "community-owned" it might be necessary for the entire community to be invested in the blog.

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Anarchy Problems (0.00 / 0)
Yeah, I'm a bit vague on the whole thing, to be honest (and a control freak, to boot). But in my daydream, at least, there's a leftblog of the Daily Kos type (and traffic) that's not wholly owned by a single individual. That's owned by the entire community, and operated by a Board of some sort, voted into the position and preferably paid for service by ads. I'm a pretty hardcore capitalist, and I see no necessary conflict between profit and progressivism, or profit and democratic organization.

Right now we have innovative communities inside fairly, er, retro institutions. People _feel_ an ownership of dKos, which is wonderful, but they don't actually -have- any ownership. The community can vote on an issue, but the votes are all advisory. (Although, again, I don't really know much about cooperative ownership and such.) I just wonder if things could be different. I'll check out PrairieStateBlue--thanks for the heads-up.


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Illinois (4.00 / 1)
We're local to Illinois, so may or may not be applicable to you, but in terms of the "community-owned" thing sound like what you are describing. The problem is that you need to be a certain size to be effective. When we have had "problems" in the past we've tried to vote on it, but not had adequate participation. Then one of the admins (admins by default) has to just make the decision themselves invalidating the whole "community-owned" thing. It isn't so much that we don't want to be "community-owned" its that sometimes it seems our community doesn't want to (or can't) own us.

(Part of why we are and can be community owned is because none of us are "professional" bloggers. At the same time though, that means that we have a more difficult time developing the volume and quality of content that leads to large sized communities... It's a vicious circle or negative feedback loop.)


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That 'non-white/non-Christian' thing (0.00 / 0)
One of the tricks pulled off by the Dems in the 30s (with a little help from the Depression) was to attract the Negro vote into a party which was virtually the sole representative in Congress of the section most hostile to giving Negroes anything in exchange.

In the NW/NC coalition, we're not dealing with anything remotely as stark as that. But (my understanding), religion plays a substantial role in the political life of the NW element.

I wonder whether such a coalition functions best where the disparate elements keep their distance, cooperating on matters of common interest but not trying to reconcile views on other matters.

Specifically when it comes to blogs, I'd fight shy of any suggestion that any blog is under some kind of obligation to represent any particular group on any particular subject: that no taxation without representation thing works the other way round, too!

Perhaps there should be an organization for lefty bloggers with the express remit of lobbying for particular things, say. With officers duly elected, subs paid, all that jazz.

But that sort of organization would a radically different animal from blogs as we have them.


I wouldn't say obligation, either (0.00 / 0)
No blog is under any obligation to do anything at all. But, as I tried to express in the post above this, if we want to grow as a movement, then we have no choice but to act accordingly.

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What we need (0.00 / 0)
It is one thing to appreciate that diversity is needed, the question is how do we get there. For the vast majority of bloggers/blogs there isn't any incentive that we can offer to increase diversity short of the platform or opportunity. It seems to me that the lack of diversity in the blogosphere is a structural problem. Concrete examples of ways to increase diversity (like the idea of creating more content outside of the business day) are needed. What about outside "advertising"? Is it that underrepresented groups aren't finding the blogosphere or is it that they are finding it, but are finding it wanting?

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An alternative take. . . (0.00 / 0)
I'm latino and gay, and like Jane, I just don't agree with the way this whole discussion is proceeding on diversity in the progressive blogosphere:  http://www.firedogla...

The Proof is Missing (0.00 / 0)
The points you make in your FDL post are very well taken. What evidence do we really have that the progressive blogosphere lacks diversity? A few unscientific polls?

If the attendees of YearlyKos lack diversity as group, then we  know for sure that is a failing of YearlyKos. But can we draw a conclusion from that to the entire progressive blogosphere?  I don't think so.


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But everyone says it. . . (4.00 / 1)
so it must be true.

It's just one of those things "everyone knows," or which "everyone can see," but I never quite know how, exactly.

Case in point:  Jane and I put together a panel on organizing the roots using technology.  Our composition:

Jane (WF, moderator)
Me (GHM)
Randall Winston of Project Agape (BM)
Justin Krebs of Living Liberally (WM)
James Rucker of Color of Change (BM)
Christy Hardin Smith (WF).

I also presented supplemental material on using text messaging to organize latino youth to vote, from Maria Teresa Peterson of VotoLatino.org.  She unfortunately could not make it, but I interviewed her in advance and she gave me permission to share some of her lessons learned from her organization's efforts.

The funny thing is, we had only spoken with Randall on the phone before meeting him on the day of the panel, and we had no idea he was African American.

So, we took a panel that looked at different models of organizing that involve various technologies, from blogs and social networking to traditional email outreach to text messaging to creating offline social communities through an online enabled movement, all targeting different progressive communities (netroots, African Americans, latinos). 

But our focus was on creating power through technology and organizing, across different constituencies, and it included diversity in both the communities addressed and in panel composition, though "diversity" was not the primary focus.

To me, this is how you incorporate diversity, not as some meta-discussion about "why aren't we more diverse?," but in terms of using the expertise of people creating power in different ways to compare best practices and seek to discover ways to collaborate more, building coalitions.

Meta-discussions about "why aren't we more diverse?" always, without exception, devolve into cycles of recrimination, blame, victimhood, forced, unspontaneous efforts by those cast in the role of the majority to demonstrate their ritual sensitivity. . . it's impossible to have an authentic conversation in that context  That detracts from movement building, rather than supports movement building.  It sucks all the life from momentum and action.

In my view, there's a lot of well meaning discussion about diversity going on, but most of it seems to regard diversity as a goal, rather than as a means.  This in my view is a big mistake.

If you coordinate for progressive change and ideology, and organize accordingly, with varios communitiesd focused on action, then minority empowerment and economic justice have to result. 

On the other hand, if you focus on "diversity" as a goal, it does not magically happen that change in societal power structures follows.  You still have to organize and strategize to make that happen.  So by getting coordinated on action first, with progressive ideology primary, thereby leading you to include various constituencies to combine power, you're far more effective. 

I've never seen the kind of diversity discussion seminar academics seem most to love produce fundamental political change, but that's just me.


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confusion between class and race (0.00 / 0)
it is fairly common to co-mingle issues of class and race.  like it or not, blogging is an upper class activity. as a mfume and obama supporter i have found many people of color in the blogosphere. as an older woman i have found many other older woman.  but i have also encountered wealth, and lots of it.  you have to have free time to blog and that is a luxury that takes money. sure there are starving bloggers but many more are from privileged backgrounds. people of color are disproportionately poor--in other words--wealthy people of color represent a smaller percent of the total than their actual proportion in the general population. attending a blogger conference is a luxury that is designed to attract and interest the well to do--with time and money.  there are many many more white men who fit that description than any other group.

until this progressive coalition evolves into a entity that can easily include and attract middle and lower class folks the class/race diversity issue will remain.


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this is exactly why. . . (0.00 / 0)
I personally blog little now, and instead, use my political time to work to create a model to make blogs self-sustaining and financially stable.

That opens access and brings in new voices.

What rather frustrates me is when I hear people talking as if these kinds of effors mean that we're not actually working to bring in new voices and new coalitions of power.

It's very frustrating, this nebulous, directionless "diversity" talk.  It betrays much lack of understanding of how the blogosphere works and of what's being done to organize. 

Organizing people for power, and creating a financial platform so that people like my friend Steve Gilliard can be very successful and get the best possible health care, is my top priority, but you won't see me writing about it, because I'm busy trying to do it.  In my "spare" time.


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A good piece (0.00 / 0)
I'll have a post continuing that discussion tomorrow, but we have temporarily run out of space on the front page. Thanks for altering me to it. 

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