Obama Winning Is Bad For Obama

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 14:34


I have been looking at this passage from First Read all day, trying to make sense of it. No dice:

For someone who's poised to raise a considerable amount of money -- and who also is ahead 15 points nationally in a new Newsweek poll (thanks to a large party advantage), as well as in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, according to Quinnipiac surveys -- Obama's week wasn't his best.

No no no no no no no no. Just. Stop. Right. There. On the face of it, there is simply no way that anything which follows this sentence can make any sense as realistic, accurate analysis of the presidential campaign. If the goal of the campaign is to win, and if last week Obama posted a series of poll numbers that showed him with a decisive lead for the first time in months, then there is simply no way that last week was bad for Obama. Contrary to the appraisals of whoever wrote that passage, whatever actually happened last week was demonstrably and factually very good for Obama.

It should be very simple, really. If Obama's poll numbers are down, then whatever just happened was bad for Obama. If Obama's poll numbers are up, then whatever happened was good for Obama. And, if like last week, his numbers are way up, then it was very, very good for Obama:


Last week, Obama took his largest ever lead over McCain. Ipso facto, what happened to Obama last week was very good.

Here is another one, this time from the Washington Post:

In the two weeks since Barack Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee, John McCain has demonstrated a knack for driving the daily political debate, forcing his opponent to respond to a challenge to meet in town hall debates, accusing him of being "delusional" about terrorism and saying he flip-flopped on public financing for his campaign.

Really. John McCain is really "driving the daily political debate?" Really? Well, unless McCain goal with the debate was to use it to drive down his own poll numbers, then I am not sure how it can be argued that McCain is driving the debate. Clearly, the only scientific measurements of public opinion on the campaign--aka, polls-indicate that Obama is gaining due to recent campaign events.

About the only way I can make sense of this commentary is the piece today by David Broder, the dean of established media conventional wisdom. In short, Broder likes what McCain has been saying, but didn't like what he has seen lately from Obama. In fact, Broder thinks that Obama is making real mistakes:

But it's also the case that the multiple joint town meetings McCain proposed would be a real service to the public and that suspending the dollar chase for the duration of the campaign, as McCain but not Obama will do, would be a major step toward establishing the credibility of the election process.

By refusing to join McCain in these initiatives in order to protect his own interests, Obama raises an important question: Has he built sufficient trust so that his motives will be accepted by the voters who are only now starting to figure out what makes him tick?

The long and short of it is that established media punditry has liked McCain more than Obama in the last couple of weeks, but the country disagrees. As such, what we are seeing is the fundamental problem with much election analysis: is the punditry trying to describe what is happening, or are they trying to create the reality themselves? Whenever polls numbers and pundits opinions of the campaign move in opposite directions, the answer is clearly the latter. After all, if they were trying to describe and report on the campaign, there would be only one obvious storyline right now: Obama is ahead, his lead is getting bigger, and that is good for him. It isn't sexy, especially for concern trolls who have made a living for decades off telling Democrats how they needed to appeal to David Broder in order to win. It is, however, what is actually happening in the campaign.  

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Yeah, it's pretty absurd. (0.00 / 0)
In addition to the laughable (yet, as you point out, also troubling) concern trolling going on in the media w/rt Obama's campaign, I also find it funny how little attention McCain is generating in comparison with Obama.  McCain is basically being treated like Obama's understudy: If Obama gets sick or hurt (i.e. is tarnished so badly that he can't be elected), then McCain will get the nod.  But McCain isn't at all likely to "win" the election in a conventional sense.      

From Iowa on, Obama has largely driven the narrative in this campaign.  I remember right after Obama won Wisconsin (I think it was then), both McCain and Clinton gave speeches that were basically structured as rebuttals to Obama.  That is the logic of this campaign: McCain (like Clinton before him) is going to try and rebut (read: tear down) Obama.  Of course, Obama is a very skilled counter-puncher.      


It always happens this way (0.00 / 0)
The general election always seems to turn into a referendum on the Democrat whoever it may be. We always knew the media were going to push McCain plus they want a close race for their bottom-line. A good example being Brian Williams on MTP yesterday when talking about the Obama media buy in all those red states he said something like ''does the Obama campaign know something we don't?''. Like, cos, they voted for Bush so why is, ya know, Obama spending money there? As if the electoral map is set in stone! They are complete tools.

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They really want McCain (0.00 / 0)
Obama wants to raise their taxes, and especially the taxes of the media barons and their friends.  Obama probably wants to take on media consolidation too, although if he's smart, he'll avoid saying that too loudly just yet.  Obama wants to shut down the GOP contractor gravy train.

Plus, the closer the race the more TV advertising time they will buy, and the more people will watch.  So they are trying to push reality their own way.  But there's only so much they can do, when Obama draws bigger crowds, raises more money, polls better and generates more excitement.

I look for one network to decide that there is an audoence for more balance--more likely NBC, given Olbermann's success.  But the rest won't, and the pundits will continue their shamless, selfish hackery.  

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


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No no no no no no no no. Just. Stop. Right. There??? (0.00 / 0)
Why? What follows that 'passage' makes perfect sense.

His decision to opt out of the public financing system was criticized by Republicans, liberal and conservative columnists, editorial boards, and good-government groups. (Sticking with the Cold War metaphor above, didn't Reagan's own arms build-up generate a fair amount of criticism?) He raised just $22 million in May, his worst monthly haul this year. And then there was that faux presidential seal that was affixed to Obama's rostrum on Friday, which got mocked from all quarters. What a bizarre and dumb idea. Why do we have a feeling we won't see this again? It really feeds the arrogance narrative.

Well? How do they say it? Oh yeah. 'On Balance' you'd have to say that at best his week was a wash - at worse it was damaging. Polls can fluctuate and are temporary. Things he did and said can stick like super glue and be played over and over and over again. And last week on the heels of the past two weeks? And they didn't even mention his apparent capitulation on FISA - and his going back on his word on that too.

His going back on his almost political life long quest for public financing shows he is not dedicated to anything. Oh yeah they will say - when he didn't think he would raise money he was all for public financing. But then when, by accident really, he tapped into an unknown reserve of cash he threw public financing under the bus like he has thrown so many other things he was once loyal to under the bus. How do you sum that up in one word? Opportunist.

And then the faux Presidential Seal!!! Can you say ego out of control. Embarrassing. Amateurish. I see a SNL skit coming up. I mean really, how cartoonist can you get? And he stands up there trying to look important behind a cardboard cutout? Again, embarrassing. But Todd sums it up well in his last sentence:

"It really feeds the arrogance narrative."

Yes it does. And we all know how much Americans love arrogance. Especially after W.

Arugula for lunch anyone?


Arugula goes well with sour grapes. (4.00 / 1)
And goat cheese.  You should try it for lunch.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.

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Ha! (0.00 / 1)
Yeah you should know about sour grapes because there were plenty of them in the form of posts responding to your apologetic post on Saturday. Most from former, or now on the fence, Obama supporters. Try Swiss Cheese because your post was full of holes.

You got egged Saturday "Sweetheart".


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That presidential seal outcry was a joke (4.00 / 2)
Campaigns have been playing with the flag and other iconography since forever. The only faux thing about it was the ''outrage''. The non-issue of non-issues.

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The Flag (0.00 / 0)
is one thing - some people even wear them on their lapel.

But to stand behind a cardboard cutout of a faux Presidential Seal made Obama to look like a parody or who he says he is. Bad move. Bad bad bad.

par·o·dy
4. any humorous, satirical, or burlesque imitation, as of a person, event, etc.


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Lol (0.00 / 0)
If that is all they have then landslide here we come!

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arrogant: it's the new "uppity" nt. (0.00 / 0)


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Maybe (0.00 / 0)
Bush is kind of uppity isn't he?

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Thank you for nailing it. (0.00 / 0)
Send your postcards and letters to the truthtellers, wherever you can find them.

Here's a sample letter to the Managing Editor:

Since you oversee editorial, advertising, news and subscription revenue, I suggest that you consider my words. If not, it doesn't matter, for, in any event, you have lost a valuable subscriber. The latest [Broderism, Nagourneyism, u-name-it-ism] is evidence of more nonsense.

It may seem to you that your newspaper can drive a debate, create a controversy when there is none, that you can influence elections and even get people elected.

That is old news. You have overestimated your opinion leadership for over two years. I used to be a Republican, but I changed party affiliation when the it became apparent that the Fourth Estate had collapsed producing factoids, untruths, lies and other stenography of Bush/Cheney talking points.

Your newspaper is no longer fit to line my birdcage. Newsprint doesn't permit those little buggers of waste to skittle off into the garbage.

alJazeera, The Independent, IPS and McClatchy have your beat. I read them, online, for FREE. I prefer my facts with truth inserted for reality. ...what Cheney told Leahy....

They only call it class war when we fight back.


Don't bother. (0.00 / 0)
Just don't tune in.

Send them further down the tubes.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


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Meanwhile (4.00 / 2)
The Rasmussen polling is showing a significant part of the country wants to NATIONALIZE the oil companies.  And McCain is embracing the oil company agenda.

So help me here: who won last week???


During the Clinton Impeachment Fiasco (0.00 / 0)
ALL the polls showed Clinton's support going UP and UP. The talking heads were nonplussed. How could the ignorant peons not know how IMPORTANT the villagers were taking this important scandal!

Do they not LISTEN to David Broder?? Clinton should just resign and save the country the grief of an impeachment process! We've rendered our decision! Time for the masses to fall in line!

Same thing in 2008. The "important people" have made their decision -- and as we knew all along it's McCain!

He's the one with "experience." Never mind that he flip-flops faster than a bass out of water, or that he doesn't know the difference between Shiite and Sunni without Joe Lieberman whispering in his ear -- and he still gets it wrong again a week later. Never mind that his spokesman is Phil Graham, the man who helped usher in $4.50 a gallon gas with his Oil Futures deregulation bill and whose wife moved directly from a government job regulating commodities futures, direct to the Board of Enron -- and received nearly a $ million for a job well done!

McCain's a "straight shooter! He's a Maverick!"
(Forget that the last "Mavericky" thing he did was back in 2003 and that ever since he's been the ultimate Bush ass-kisser).

"Never mind that small idiot behind the curtain! I am the great and powerful Media!"


You have no future in Political Punditry (0.00 / 0)
You've missed teh most obvious point of all: this week's news was very good for Rudy Guiliani.

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This Is Very Good News (4.00 / 1)
With the GOP on the ropes, the punditalkcrazy is the most powerful reactionary force on the landscape.

The more openly they make fools of themselves, and drive people away from listening to them at all, the better.

There was a time when saying stuff like this was merely snark or wishful thinking.  But as the traditional media continues losing audience share by leaps and bounds, it's increasingly realistic as a straightforward assessment of what may well be in the cards in very short order.

Bottom line: they would rather die than admit they were wrong on Iraq.

That's a deal I'd be happy to make.  Let them die, lying to the bitter, bitter end.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


I'd love to see stats on audience share... (0.00 / 0)
This spring I had the opportunity to work with some progressive high school students from my hometown.  Interestingly, they all wanted to know what news show I thought they should watch, in order to get unbiased news.  Of course, I told them not to watch TV news, period.  They were quite surprised by this recommendation, but seemed convinced by my reasoning.

I think that a combination of people increasingly getting their news on the internet, and a concerted effort by progressives to encourage people not to watch TV news could really make a difference.  

But I'd love to see how much progress has already been made in this department.  


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minor quibble (0.00 / 0)
Isn't there a lag of a week or so between when events happen, when polls are in the field and when poll results are released?

I am not saying I believe the pundits' script, but it seems possible that Obama could have a bad week even as newly released polls show his lead widening.

I remember reading in August 2004 that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth weren't hurting Kerry, because he wasn't going down in the polls. But there was a bit of a lag there.

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The media may not be biased; they're just wimps. (0.00 / 0)

The long and short of it is that established media punditry has liked McCain more than Obama in the last couple of weeks, but the country disagrees. As such, what we are seeing is the fundamental problem with much election analysis: is the punditry trying to describe what is happening, or are they trying to create the reality themselves?

I have no data to back this up, but I continually fail to see how the media "likes" McCain, is biased against Obama, likes issue X, hates candidate Y, etc. etc. Every time such an allegation is made, I see huge assumptions being made. In this case, I see a much less "nefarious" explanation than yours, Chris. My impression is that news editors are just wimps. They have become so used to parity between the parties that they see "fair and balanced" as giving something to both sides. These days, they're having more and more trouble finding nice things to say about McCain and the Republicans. Slowly but surely, there has been a trickle of stories talking about how well the Ds' chances are and how unpopular the Rs are. But by and large, the mainstream media isn't quite ready to accept that storyline.

We've seen this before a number of times. For example, it took years for the media to realize that it could stand up to pressure from the Bush administration regarding violence and the lack of progress in Iraq. Eventually the dam burst when it dawned on the media that they could provide their own independent assessment of the situation there. It wasn't that they "liked" the administration more before, it's that they feared a backlash among their readers... In other words, they lacked the backbone to provide intelligent, independent reporting.

Similarly, in this year's Democratic nomination process, the media was too timid to report the truth that, objectively speaking, Clinton had only the tiniest of chances of being nominated after Super Tuesday. It became obvious by March 5. But the media gave Clinton equal airtime for months and months, with a storyline of back-and-forth between her and Obama. It's not that the media "liked" Clinton; it's that they were afraid that if they told it how it really was, they would effectively coronate Obama as the nominee, and that would be undemocratic. But eventually, I think the media figured out that they would eventually have to face the truth, and that Obama really was the presumptive nominee. Ironically, Tim Russert became a kingmaker. But it wasn't because he personally "chose" Obama; its because he yielded to reality.

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