Tie McCain to the Republican Party: The Public Hates Them

by: Daniel De Groot

Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 23:55


I could write at least four or five posts on that LA Times/Bloomberg poll that had Obama up 12 points on McCain, not for that result (noteworthy and heartening as it is), but for all the other questions they asked.  

I particularly like questions 24 and 25, so here they are in detail (with some attempt at formatting and yes my colour choices suck)


Q24/25 Do you have a positive or negative feeling about the (24)Democratic/(25)Republican Party? (IF POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE) Is it very or only somewhat (positive/negative)?

Democratic Party








Answer REG DEM IND REP LIB MOD CONS MALE FEMALE
Hvn't hrd enough 1 1 1


1

Positive (net) 51 85 35 15 80 52 27 44 57
Very Positive 26 52 11 3 44 27 10 15 36
Somewhat Positive 25 33 24 12 36 25 17 29 21
Negative (net) 30 9 32 64 9 26 52 37 24
Very Negative 14 3 16 31 2 8 30 19 10
Somwhat negative 16 6 16 32 7 18 23 18 14
Neither 15 5 27 13 9 18 15 17 13
Don't know 4 1 5 8 1 4 5 2 5










Republican Party








Answer REG DEM IND REP LIB MOD CONS MALE FEMALE
Hvn't hrd enough 1 1 1

1 1

Positive (net) 29 8 26 70 9 20 52 33 25
Very Positive 8 2 3 24 3 5 14 7 8
Somewhat Positive 21 6 23 46 6 15 38 26 17
Negative (net) 53 84 41 15 80 57 30 47 57
Very Negative 28 53 16 2 47 31 12 20 34
Somwhat negative 25 30 25 13 33 26 19 27 23
Neither 14 7 28 8 9 18 11 16 12
Don't know 4 1 4 6 1 5 6 3 5

More observations inside.

Daniel De Groot :: Tie McCain to the Republican Party: The Public Hates Them
Ok, where to begin?  In no particular order:

1) Overall, Dems are at 51/30 positive/negative.  GOP is at 29/53.  Less people like them than dislike the dems, and more people hate them than like the Dems.  You could stop there and be pretty satisfied that if you're a Democrat running for office, you should proudly wear that label and what's more, frequently mention your opponent is a Republican on the trail, in literature and ads.  Use phrases like "My Republican opponent", "Just what we would expect a Republican to say", "Voted with his Republican colleages X% of the time!"

2) Democrats are more positive about the Democratic party, and more negative about the Republican party than Republicans are in vice-versa.  85% of Democrats say positive versus only 70% of Republicans.  Of the 70, only 24% (less than half) said "very positive."  They even hate themselves!  Republicans in the poll were twice as likely to say they had positive feelings about the Democratic party.  

3) Liberals are less enthusiastic about the Democratic party than are Democrats.  Makes sense given the record of this Congress perhaps.  If they'd asked me, I would have said "somewhat positive" too to be honest.

4) Dems winning both men and women.  Women by a lot.  Just wait until we hang John McCain's views on Roe V. Wade and SCHIP around his neck for them to see.  

5) Dems win the all coveted independents too.  The numbers seem a bit low and I don't know what happened in this poll because it actually has McCain winning the independents they sampled 36O, 44M.  So either all the Democratic leaning independents have joined the Democratic party or perhaps the polling sample was top heavy with Republican leaning independents.  Either way, even if Obama isn't winning the polled sample of Indies here, the Democratic party itself is.

I think the message from this is pretty clear as far as the Presidential race is concerned.  Don't just tie McCain to Bush (which he can weakly try to run from), tie him to his own party.  Let's see him try to deny that.  In my last diary some noted Obama doesn't list his party affiliation, but neither does McCain.  

For Congressional candidates, as I demonstrated the other day, Republicans get this and are hiding their party affiliation.  Don't let them get away with that.  If you're too craven to admit to your own party then at least remind voters about your opponent's.


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The question is ... (0.00 / 0)
will Obama tie McCain to the Republican party?  Do we really know what his strategy will be .. besides caving to Mr 23%?

Republican leaning independents (4.00 / 2)
Chuck Todd noted today that because of the dislike of the GOP brand, a higher slice than usual of independents are former Republicans, so McCain will do better than expected.  

DemConWatch

That is a winning strategy (4.00 / 1)
If your opponent is trying to run away from his party, make it chase him.  Haunt him with it, never let him escape.  Every ad, every debate, every dueling soundbite, if your oppponent won't claim the GOP mantle, tattoo it on his forehead and don't let anyone forget it.  If they can make "liberal" a bad word through sheer repetition, we can do the same to "Republican".  Plenty of people out there that adhere to conservative principles but are disgusted as hell with what the GOP has been doing.

There is much to the "Conservative" view of politics, taken as an ideology and as practiced prior to the 1970's, that is useful and admirable.  But the GOP is rotten to the core, and either we force it to reform itself, or we burn it down and spin off a new conservative party built around the Blue Dogs.


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Dual effect (0.00 / 0)
Yes, that makes sense.  Dem leaning indies become full fledged Dems, pissed off Republicans become GOP leaning indies meaning the independent vote skews right.

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Late to the party... (4.00 / 1)
But along with this, the next time someone asks Obama what word he associates with "McCain", rather than "Honorable", how about "Republican".

Why must the Democrats continue to reinforce this "Honorable" image of McCain?


Not too late (0.00 / 0)
To make a good point.  At the very least he should not pass up obvious opportunities to make this connection.

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