Presidential Forecast, 7/24: Red Flag In Colorado

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 14:06


Electoral College: Obama 264, McCain 157, Toss-up 117
National popular vote: Obama 46.1%-43.4% McCain


(Dark Blue (210): Obama +8.0% or more
Lean Blue (54): Obama +3.0%-+7.9%
White / Toss-up (117): Obama +2.9% to McCain +2.9%
Lean Red (71): McCain +3.0%-+7.9%
Dark Red (86): McCain +8.0% or more
)

Since the last update, there have been new polls from Colorado (2), Florida, Michigan, Minnesota (2), New Hampshire, Virginia and Wisconsin. The category changes are as follows:

  • Colorado downgraded from "Lean Obama" to "Toss-up"
  • Florida upgraded from "Lean McCain" to "Toss-up"
  • Missouri clarified as "Toss-up" instead of "Lean McCain." I had been listed contradictory information.

It is worth noting that the first "red flag" poll--that is, a poll showing McCain leading in one of Obama's firewall states--in two months appeared today. It comes from Colorado, where the new Quinnipiac poll shows McCain with a narrow, 2% lead. Obama does still lead in the overall average in the state, but Obama's odds of winning the state have dropped below 68%. This is the first "red flag" poll to appear since a May 27th poll showed McCain leading in Michigan.

Swing State Overview
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin Obama Total
Obama Base 210 210
Michigan 17 46.2% 38.8% +7.4% 227
Pennsylvania 21 47.3% 40.3% +7.0% 248
New Mexico 5 46.8% 40.5% +6.3% 253
Iowa 7 46.0% 39.8% +6.2% 260
New Hampshire 4 45.5% 42.5% +3.0% 264
Virginia 13 46.8% 44.8% +2.0% 277
Colorado 9 45.3% 43.5% +1.8% 286
Ohio 20 45.3% 44.0% +1.3% 306
Nevada 5 42.3% 43.0% -0.7% 311
North Dakota 3 43.3% 44.3% -1.0% 314
North Carolina 15 43.6% 44.8% -1.2% 329
Missouri 11 43.8% 45.4% -1.6% 340
Indiana 11 43.3% 45.3% -2.0% 351
Montana 3 43.3% 46.0% -2.7% 354
Florida 27 43.2% 46.0% -2.8% 381

The red flag puts Obama below 270 electoral votes for the first time since June 16th. Still, since McCain cannot afford a single loss among the ten "toss-up" states, the odds of victory are still very strongly in Obama's favor.

State by state details in the extended entry.  

Chris Bowers :: Presidential Forecast, 7/24: Red Flag In Colorado
Solid Obama: 210 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
California 55 54.3% 33.3% +21.0% 4
Connecticut 7 54.4% 34.3% +19.0% 4
Delaware 3 50.0% 41.0% +9.0% 1
D.C. 3 -- -- +80.0% 0
Hawaii 4 61.0% 31.0% +30.0% 1
Illinois 21 55.5% 35.3% +20.2% 4
Maine-AL* 2 50.3% 36.0% +14.3% 4
Maine-01* 1 -- -- +17.5% 0
Maine-02* 1 -- -- +11.1% 0
Maryland 10 51.5% 37.3% +14.2% 4
Massachusetts 12 53.3% 33.0% +20.3% 4
Minnesota 10 48.3% 40.3% +8.8% 4
New Jersey 15 46.8% 36.8% +10.0% 4
New York 31 54.5% 33.3% +21.2% 4
Oregon 7 48.0% 39.0% +9.0% 4
Rhode Island 4 50.8% 31.0% +19.8% 4
Vermont 3 60.0% 32.5% +27.5% 2
Washington 11 49.6% 38.6% +11.0% 5
Wisconsin 10 50.0% 39.8% +10.3% 4

Lean Obama: 54 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Iowa 7 46.0% 39.8% +6.2% 4
Michigan 17 46.2% 38.8% +7.4% 5
New Hampshire 4 45.5% 42.5% +3.0% 4
New Mexico 5 46.8% 40.5% +6.3% 4
Pennsylvania 21 47.3% 40.3% +7.0% 4

Toss-up: 117 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Colorado 9 45.3% 43.5% +1.8% 4
Indiana 11 43.3% 45.3% -2.0% 4
Missouri 11 43.8% 45.4% -1.6% 5
Montana 3 43.3% 46.0% -2.7% 3
Nevada 5 42.3% 43.0% -0.7% 4
North Carolina 15 43.6% 44.8% -1.2% 5
North Dakota 3 43.3% 44.3% -1.0% 3
Ohio 20 45.3% 44.0% +1.3% 4
Virginia 13 46.8% 44.8% +2.0% 4
Florida 27 43.2% 46.0% -2.8% 6

Lean McCain: 71 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Alaska 3 42.0% 47.3% -5.3% 4
Arizona 10 37.3% 44.0% -6.7% 4
Georgia 15 41.8% 48.5% -6.7% 4
Nebraska-02** 1 -- -- -5.0% 0
South Carolina 8 41.3% 45.5% -4.2% 4
Texas 34 38.8% 46.3% -7.5% 4

Solid McCain: 86 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Alabama 9 35.5% 51.3% -15.8% 4
Arkansas 6 38.0% 49.0% -11.0% 4
Idaho 4 39.0% 52.0% -13.0% 1
Kansas 6 36.8% 51.0% -14.2% 4
Kentucky 8 36.5% 49.5% -13.0% 4
Louisiana 9 38.5% 51.3% -12.8% 4
Mississippi 6 42.0% 52.0% -10.0% 4
Nebraska-AL** 2 36.0% 52.0% -16.0% 4
Nebraska-01** 1 -- -- -10.0% 0
Nebraska-03** 1 -- -- -34.0% 0
Oklahoma 7 32.5% 53.3% -20.8% 2
South Dakota 3 38.8% 47.5% -8.7% 3
Tennessee 11 34.8% 50.8% -16.0% 4
Utah 5 32.0% 55.3% -23.3% 4
West Virginia 5 36.0% 49.0% -13.0% 2
Wyoming 3 37.5% 53.5% -16.0% 2

* Maine four electoral votes are awarded as follows: two for the statewide winner, and one for the winner of each congressional district. ME-01 is about 3.5% more Democratic than the state as a whole, while ME-02 is about 3.5% less Democratic than the state as a whole.

** Nebraska's five electoral votes are awarded as follows: two for the statewide winner, and one for the winner of each congressional district. NE-01 is about 6.0% more Democratic than the state as a whole, NE-02 is about 11.0% more Democratic than the state as a whole, and NE-03 is about 18.0% less Democratic than the state as a whole.

Methodology
I will update at least once every day between now and November 4th. The methodology is simple and straightforward.

  1. For each state, take the last four polls conducted for the state, and average them.
  2. If more than four polls were conducted in the state over the previous thirty days, all polls conducted during that time period are included in the averages.
  3. If polling dates overlap, and make it difficult to determine which polls were the four most recent, include all of the overlapping polls.
  4. No polling firm discrimination whatsoever. Polls are never excluded because the organization has a bad or partisan reputation. Also, if a polling firm has conducted more than one of the most recent four polls, all of the polls from that organization are included.

As we move closer to the election and more data becomes available, both the time frames for polls included in the averages will decrease and the definition of a "solid" lead will eventually drop to 7.0%.  


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Quinnipiac (0.00 / 0)
We can note that those Quinnipiac state polls ALL look out of whack in McCain's favour -- Obama up by only 4 in Michigan and 2 in Minnesota. That Minnesota number looks especially suspicious, given other recent polls (ie yesterday's Rasmussen).

McCain TV spots in Colorado (0.00 / 0)
I've caught bits and pieces of McCain spots on TV in Denver -- mostly on cable channels, and most notably at the beginning of Rockies games.

Nothing from Obama in response, which reinforces one of my biggest worries about Team Obama -- they are good on substance, but way slow in the war room rapid response department. The Clintons were great at rapid response, less so on substance.


On the flip... (4.00 / 1)
...he has outspent Obama 3-1 on ads and needs a suspect poll to get ahead within the margin of error in the most important state of this election. Obama is concentrating on organization right now and once the convention comes around he is going to, dare I say, surge.

[ Parent ]
the CO poll looks like a case of bad weighting... (4.00 / 3)
check the breakdowns for party ID:

Dem: O - 86 ; M - 7
GOP: O - 7 : M - 87
Indy: O - 47 ; M - 39.

looks like Reps are oversampled..

Further evidence to this effect: Udall is tied.  


maybe not (0.00 / 0)
The poll is Likely Voters.  Who is to say what the election day turnout will be for each party?  Likely Voter polls this early in the cycle should be taken with a huge grain of salt, but for what it is, an early likely voter poll, its hard to say that its "wrong".

[ Parent ]
So is Salt Lake City the biggest city in the Red? (0.00 / 0)
New Orleans is maybe still bigger.

Jeff Wegerson

Looks to me like it's Memphis n/t (0.00 / 0)


John McCain opposes the GI Bill.

[ Parent ]
Assuming of course (0.00 / 0)
you mean full red. If not then Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Phoenix, Atlanta, etc.

John McCain opposes the GI Bill.

[ Parent ]
I just assumed (0.00 / 0)
that slc was bigger because they had/have an nba team. Wow was I wrong. 650k to 180k. Now the SL county has 1.2 mil. But SL metro maybe only 900k but the wasach range also has 1.2 mil.

Memphis metro 1.2 millish as well.

Looks like they are comparable metro areas. That, of course is the point of my wonderment. How rural all those red not pink states are.

Jeff Wegerson


[ Parent ]
A probably meaningless observation on my part (0.00 / 0)
But it's funny how both parties' "path" from the Mexican to Canadian borders meet up in the northwest, on the WA-ID border. It would be nice to find a way to "cut off" the GOP's border-border path, and build at least one new one for Dems. Not likely this year, though.

This is the Mexico-Canada "highway" that needs to be built, painted blue all the way.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


Where were Bush and Kerry at this point in the cylce (0.00 / 0)
with state polling? I just asked this else where but figured I'd ask here too.

Mixed (0.00 / 0)
I would say they are very slightly more favorable to Obama but only just.  

[ Parent ]
election-projection.net (0.00 / 0)
The slight drop in Obama's probability of winning can be clearly seen at
http://election-projection.net

Consider the National Popular Vote bill (0.00 / 0)
The real issue is not how well Obama or McCain might do in the closely divided battleground states, but that we shouldn't have battleground states and spectator states in the first place. Every vote in every state should be politically relevant in a presidential election. And, every vote should be equal. We should have a national popular vote for President in which the White House goes to the candidate who gets the most popular votes in all 50 states.

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). The bill would take effect only when enacted, in identical form, by states possessing a majority of the electoral vote -- that is, enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

Because of state-by-state enacted rules for winner-take-all awarding of their electoral votes, recent candidates with limited funds have concentrated their attention on a handful of closely divided "battleground" states. Two-thirds of the visits and money were focused in just six states; 88% on 9 states, and 99% of the money went to just 16 states. Two-thirds of the states and people have been merely spectators to the presidential election.

Another shortcoming of the current system is that a candidate can win the Presidency without winning the most popular votes nationwide.

The National Popular Vote bill has been approved by 20 legislative chambers (one house in Colorado, Arkansas, Maine, Massachusetts, North Carolina, and Washington, and two houses in Maryland, Illinois, Hawaii, California, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Vermont). It has been enacted into law in Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These states have 50 (19%) of the 270 electoral votes needed to bring this legislation into effect.

See http://www.NationalPopularVote...  

susan


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