Why Banning Fast Food Makes Sense

by: Matt Stoller

Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 01:22


Matt Yglesias notes that the LA City Council banned new fast food restaurants in Southern LA from opening because of a desire for more diversity in food options, which is causing libertarians to go crazy.  How can banning restaurants cause more diversity, asks Cato's David Boaz.  That's a good question, and one answered by Tom Slee's No One Makes You Shop at Walmart.  Fundamentally, the actions taken by the LA City Council is am embrace of behavioral economic analysis over free market orthodoxy.
Matt Stoller :: Why Banning Fast Food Makes Sense
Fast food restaurants are profitable not because they are efficient, but because fast food restaurants have an information advantage over independent restaurants.  This is well-known in economics as 'The Lemon Problem', named after the dynamics of the used car market, which prevents high quality used cars from being sold and creates a a market that will only sell lemons (cars with problems).  Sellers of used cars know whether their car is a lemon, but buyers don't.  As a result, all cars of a certain model, lemons or not, will sell for the same price.  Because of the risk of buying a lemon and the lack of information about which cars are lemons, buyers won't pay full price for a good used car.  Eventually, sellers of non-lemon used cars refuse to put their cars on the market (they won't sell at a lemon price), and so all used cars sold are lemons.

This situation is a market failure that takes high quality goods off the market because buyers have less information about the product than sellers.  Without intervention by some third party, there is just a competitive advantage to sellers of lemons over sellers of non-lemons.  And so non-lemon sellers go away, even if buyers want good used cars and are willing to pay for them.

This dynamic happens in the restaurant business as well.  If you go to McDonald's, you know what you're getting, even if you don't like it that much.  If you go to Joe's Diner, it may or may not be good, but it is a new and unpredictable experience.  A customer knows McDonald's serves low quality predictable cheap food.  If the customer goes to Joe's Diner, there is a good possibility that he will get low quality food, and so he will pay only low prices even if he were willing to pay high prices if he knew the food were healthy.  This drives healthy restaurants out of the market, and franchise restaurants can out-compete low quality independent restaurants.  It's the lemon problem.  Without some sort of intervention, restaurants that serve healthy food just won't exist in Southern LA except as anomalies.

Is reducing fast food options a good policy response if your goal is to increase diversity of eating options that serve healthy good?  It probably is a necessary but not sufficient condition.  Without more information about the food they are buying, customers will still be unwilling to pay anything but the 'lemon' price for food, since they don't actually know if the food they will get at an independent restaurant is healthy.  Eventually, restaurants can develop reputations and overcome this information problem, but that takes time and less competitive pressure from low quality chains.  So certainly, it is useful to pull the low quality predictable options out of the market, because that will allow a diverse set of new competitors who would have been at a strong information disadvantage to franchise restaurants to start up and flourish.  

All of this is along way of saying that the analysis of both Yglesias and Boaz is still organized around the idea that markets deliver perfect competition and efficiency, and the question is how much to reduce that efficiency in service to social goals using government action.  I don't think that's the right framework to use to work through policy ideas, because market failures do exist and create situations where fast food restaurants dominate an area's dining options even when people don't like them that much and obesity is an epidemic.  And conversely, there are cities like San Francisco where there are an absurd number of different high quality restaurants.

I'm going to be playing around with this kind of analysis a bit more on OpenLeft, so forgive the poor writing style.  I'm unlearning the free market economics I got from Marty Feldstein as a freshman in college.


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You just got all Gladwell on me. (0.00 / 0)
Matt,

I like it. Now I'm going to steal it and try to impress someone else with this lemon bit in the next week or so. I'm going to a wedding soon. Maybe I'll use it then.

Sincerely,
P. Terrence McGovern


Interesting analysis Matt (4.00 / 3)
I think there are some important differences between cars and restaurants that suggest the same considerations don't necessarily apply. The problem with cars arises from competition between sellers offering exactly the same product, differing only in quality. A seller can't establish a reputation for offering quality Camrys when they only sell one or two in a lifetime. Restaurants can build reputations, gain word of mouth, etc, which means the free market should in fact work better than it does with cars -- buyers can obtain information. Before I go to a restaurant I google it, and usually get some information, however unreliable. (Incidentally, the lemon problem has obviously helped Ebay become such a success. Want to buy product X? You can buy from a reliable seller and have some certainty about its quality.)

On an unrelated note, I think you acquire a different perspective on fast food once you become a parent. The product on offer -- bland, same, reliable, unexotic -- is exactly what kids want. (The play areas and marketing gimmicks don't hurt either.) I love diverse, exotic food, which is why I rarely eat at a fast food joint, but I honestly don't feel bad giving my kids what they want either.

My view is that whatever your economic philosophy, the LA council decision comes down to one about values not economics. The council has decided that it values diversity as a social good, and the trade-offs are not against more efficiency, but against the competing values of those who like fast food for whatever reasons of their own. I think making those sorts of values trade-offs is within the scope of legitimate government action. I would vote against this measure if I had the choice (I used to live in LA but don't now), but if a majority (or their elected representatives) approved it, I wouldn't cry "Fascism" either.


sure (4.00 / 1)
Good points, but I will note one thing.  "Before I go to a restaurant I google it, and usually get some information, however unreliable."

You don't google McDonald's.  That's a cost you don't have to bear.


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exactly (0.00 / 0)
The way I once saw it described is that a brand name is a "promise".  It's an assurance that wherever you are in the country and encounter that sign, certain expectations are met.

In the 1950s, when Americans were ready to use that new highways system for road trips, Holiday Inn took the guesswork out of where to stay, eliminating the risk that the random local place you'd choose would be a dump with bedbugs and no hot water.  

So, the question is this: are there ways that we can create a "brand" for independent, healthy-food restaurants that can compete with the big boys?  (And Big Boy's.)  I'm thinking of some kind of certification or self-identification mark that these places can use to put a sticker on the door that says, "We use organic products whenever possible," and/or "we don't deep fry," or other markers of quality we'd want to see.


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National standardization is not the answer (0.00 / 0)
"We use organic products whenever possible," and/or "we don't deep fry," are not "markers of quality." Where do you find organic avocados in New York City? How can you make frenchfries without a deep fryer? (And don't begin to tell me that "You shouldn't be eating that anyway.") The reality is that "good food" is by-and-large an aesthetic with strong local biases. Of course, we want to protect the health of consumers, but why can't I occasionally get a little "shortnin'" in my biscuits?

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well ... (0.00 / 0)
... how do you want to define "not McDonald's", then?

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Then add context (0.00 / 0)
From Anthony Bourdain:
"People eat what they eat for a reason. And they tend to cook well for a reason. That reason may no longer exist as a prime motivator -- but it's there if you care to go back and look."

[ Parent ]
Claremont, CA (0.00 / 0)
I grew up in Claremont, CA, a town that hasn't allowed a new fast food restaurant in it's borders for 40 years.  The system works great, though it does make the the boarder with next-door cities stick out with the burger joints.

El Segundo, CA (0.00 / 0)
I'm near El Segundo, CA, another town that doesn't allow fast food restaurants in its downtown area. There are certainly an eclectic mix of restaurants on Main St., but there's also no shortage of restaurants serving heaping portions of fried food. It's probably better on balance but no panacea. It's also interesting that it's a very conservative town in the middle of LA.

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Do you really think people eat fast food primarily because they don't know any better? (0.00 / 0)
The problem with the Lemon Car analogy is this: people don't really want to buy lemon cars, but I would bet a significant number of people really do, at times, want to eat fast food.  

yes (0.00 / 0)
I'm not sure about that.  Lemon cars do cost something, so it's not like people don't want lemon cars.  They just don't want them as much as they want cars that aren't lemons.

And sure, people at times want fast food, but there's a reason McDonald's has a lower price for its food than nearly any other restaurant.  Fast food has priced itself as low quality low priced food.


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But they also achieve their low price through a system that practically guarantees consistency (4.00 / 1)
You referenced fast food's organizational prowess of consistent "low" quality almost as a negative, but it serves as a very powerful stabilizer in the restaurant industry where customers also very often hold the "I'm never going there again because of one very bad experience" mindset.  What McDonalds, and other chain restaurants, practically guarantee is a minimum standard of quality that they very, very, rarely go below, even though the standard isn't that high to begin with.  

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Free market (0.00 / 0)
What people forget is the "free" market is just a method of optimization, not particularly different than evolution or gentic algorithms.  Free markets are incredibly efficient at optimizing the market to fit the niches and environment presented to it.

But that is it.  What conservatives consistently don't get is that the free market can adopt to any environment.  (Ever notice how conservatives really don't have faith in the free market and are sure it will break if you so much as look at it funny?)  To make a society we want to live in, you have to make sure the environment is set up correctly so the correct problems are being solved.

Those on the left, particularly those with a more socialist bent, often  go the other way and not realize just how powerful a tool the free market really is.  You really do want the power of the market solving and optimizing for you, you just need to make sure power is used for good, not evil.


idiotic (0.00 / 0)
Those on the left, particularly those with a more socialist bent, often  go the other way and not realize just how powerful a tool the free market really is.

This is ridiculous propaganda.  There is no one on the Democratic side who does not recognize the importance of markets.  There is basically no one on the left with any base who does not get that markets are important tools.

Please point me to this massive socialist movement and their representation in Congress before spewing utter lies about what people on the left believe so that you can feel smarter about being an independent thinker.

I'm soooo tired of straw men by people who think they are smart by rehashing crap Jimmy Carter put out thirty fucking years ago.


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Oy. (0.00 / 0)
I think he's talking about individual people on an intellectual/academic left, especially those who look to European governments as their ideal.  These people do actually exist.

I don't think he's trying to malign all your American Democratic politicians and movement politics types on the American electoral left.

There is a left that exists outside the realm of American elected politics, right?  And people are allowed to talk about it without being construed as trying to sabotage the re-election of Tim Ryan, right?

People can use the phrase "the left" without it indicating you and your colleagues in American politics.  Given the focus of the website we're on, it would probably be a good idea to be more specific about which "left" one is talking about, but there are certainly some obvious and reasonable interpretions of what Mark wrote that are not ridiculous propaganda.


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Continuum (0.00 / 0)
You are right, no politician in the USA thinks this way, but there is an intellectual counter-movement against capitalism that is somewhat embraced in Europe and occasionally noticeable in comment sections even here.

But that wasn't really my point.

When I say "just how powerful a tool the free market really is" there is a real continuum of opinion.  This isn't a boolean "worshipful" versus "worthless" debate.  I wish we didn't all have to live in an intellectual environment where we so concern ourselves with straw men presented by others we can't even discuss certain issues.

For example, look at this continuum for cutting down on carbon consumption:

1) Let the market handle it on its own.

As people realize they want a smaller carbon footprint, they'll desire to buy energy that way and the market will respond.

2) Carbon tax.

Build into the economy an incentive to purchase energy with less carbon, let the market respond.

3) Cap and trade carbon.

Set a fixed amount of carbon output we want the country to produce and let the market meet that goal.

4) Directly regulate carbon emissions.

Set how much carbon any individual car can produce per mile or power plant produce per kilowatt.

5) Directly regulate the technology.

Strongly encourage specific technologies that are known to be good for carbon reduction like wind, solar or nuclear.

6) Build the good stuff.

Spend government money directly on building wind farms and/or nuclear power plants.



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More Powerful Economic Theory at Work (4.00 / 3)
Matt, it isn't just Los Angeles that has a lot of fast food restaurants. Most of America does. But there's a more important economic factor at work that explains their success.

These restaurants have an enormous competitive advantage: massive economies of scale. McDonald's can buy every supply at the best possible prices, from beef to potatoes to frying oil to napkins. Moreover, distribution is more efficient. McDonald's can send one big truck to supply a group of restaurants, and their warehousing is super-efficient. (Yum! Brands, for example, typically has a shared distribution system for their Pizza Hut, KFC, and Taco Bell stores.) Each location sells massive volumes because they prepare food quickly, at all times of day and night, for sit-down, drive-thru, and take-out. The foodstuffs are comparatively cheap: corn syrup, white flour breads, etc. (Fresh strawberries and grilled fish simply cost more.) They serve high calorie, fatty and sugary foods. Thousands of years of evolution have programmed us to enjoy such foods and consume them maximally to live through the next famine that now never comes.

Given those powerful forces, I don't think Los Angeles is going to have much luck with the temporary fast food freeze. There are likely way too many loopholes anyway. Perhaps a convenience store could offer more microwave Hot Pockets, for example. You can buy Taco Bell branded almost-ready-to-eat products in grocery and convenience stores already. And remember that Los Angeles has already gone to war against carts selling bacon-wrapped hot dogs, largely unsuccessfully. To the extent there has been success, it has simply shifted demand to other very readily available forms of indulgence.

What the city government really should be doing is opening free (or heavily subsidized) health food emporiums -- offering a direct, competitive choice to consumers in its most nutritionally-challenged neighborhoods. Price a plate of steamed broccoli, grilled chicken, and brown rice at a buck and there'd be a lot of takers. The city could hire a contractor or run the establishments directly. Sort of the modern day soup kitchen, only more Whole Foods than Campbell's. Or the city could partner with the fast food restaurants. They excel at efficient distribution, so let them figure out how to order tons of spinach, kale, and mahi mahi which are then subsidized, perhaps through a tax on the burgers, fries, and hot fudge sundaes.

And lest people think this is some kind of socialism run amok, remember that our federal government has no problem whatsoever providing massive farm subsidies to huge agribusinesses, even when food commodities are fetching record prices. That's part of the reason why the bad stuff is so cheap. The government would also probably save money on Medicaid and Medicare if people ate healthier. So feed them the good stuff already!


Plus the Wall Street Factor (4.00 / 1)
Not only do fastfood joints benefit from massive economies of scale, they also benefit from the massive financial advantage of not having to compete at the same profit margin as locally owned establishments. In fact, a given fastfood restaurant, backed by publicly traded shares on Wall Street, doesn't necessarily have to make a profit at all if its corporate management determines that financing a retail outlet in that particular location is essential for the purpose of maintaining market share. And when consumer tastes change,   local establishments invariably go out of business while McDonalds can roll out a Panera Bread or Chipotle restaurant to keep their corporate footprint in the neighborhood in tact. Communities--even the size of South Los Angeles--won't be successful at resisting the corporate-driven dumbing-down of the restaurant industry until they heavily support locally-owned establishments through rent subsidies, loan programs, and free access to management training and community-based technology support. South Los Angeles is attacking the problem in the wrong way by insisting on a particular aesthetic ("healthy" food) when it should be focusing on supporting its locally-owned enterprise and leveling the market to support selling locally-grown foods.

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leaving out (0.00 / 0)
The parade of subsidies to fast food restaurants.

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Left out of the analysis... (4.00 / 5)
1) People going to fast food restaurants are, surprise surprise, often buying time. It may not be terribly healthy, nor is a bag of chips or not eating at all which might be the alternatives.

2) The economies of scale would say that you're still getting a much better meal from an efficient fast food chain than a smaller restaurant at near equivalent prices. Combine that with the cost for waiting staff (don't forget that tip!) and the lower customer throughput in a table service, and the two simply aren't close. You're amortizing greater staff and space costs over a greatly reduced customer flow. Now if the food chain is skimming most of the profits while the small restaurants take small margins, the consumer might see something of an advantage, but this is overly optimistic.


On buying time, (4.00 / 1)
the Bay Area has an impressive amount of high-quality restaurants that could also properly be referred to as "fast food" had the designation not taken on certain connotations.

 And when I was undergrad at Berkeley, it became obvious that a weaker quality restaurant would get weeded out with  remarkable speed. Matt is right to intimate that once a level of quality is reached the market can efficiently self-regulate.

         However, I would add that while I was in grad school in LA, time did become a reason I would often choose a lower quality restaurant over others of higher quality, more because I couldn't allow time to drive another 10 minutes in the lunch hour rush. So factors like the walkability of a city also allow it to maintain a higher level of quality. A healthy city is a healthy city for multiple reasons that reinforce one another.


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Same in NYC (4.00 / 1)
There are plenty of local fast food places in NYC.  Now when I lived there I chose them for taste rather than health, but generally fresher meats and vegetables taste better.  In the more tourist-y parts of Manhattan the local fast food places were always quicker because the tourists swamped the McDonalds and other chain restaurants.

Matt, how do you compare what LA has done vs. NYC's ban on trans fats?  It seems LA's model could just end up spawning a bunch of locally-owned crap eateries serving even less healthy alternatives, while NYC's model seems to at least put health at the fore while perhaps pushing the corporate restaurants' bottom lines by making them purchase higher quality foods.  


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Being a new yorker, (0.00 / 0)
I agree with you. We have great "chain" restaurants that offer organic food, including the New York Burger Company, GoodBurger (named after the Nickelodeon skit and subsequent movie, I think), and Chipotle Mexican food. I'm trying to eat more healthily myself, and have lost 15 lbs. in the past two months (though I've gained 5 lbs. back thanks to eating Southern BBQ in Southwestern Virginia).

In any event, The Trans Fat ban hasn't really affected the taste of the fast food currently in place and is less draconian than banning fast food restaurants altogether, so I think it is a better alternative than what LA is doing.


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Already local crap eateries (0.00 / 0)
The fast food chains do have financial advantages, but drive around these neighborhoods and you'll see there's still no shortage of mom and pop fast food eateries, usually 50's style diners, pizza and roach coach trucks. The food is just as fried and unhealthy as McD. Prices at the diners are a little higher and to make up for that, the portions are even larger. Tacos can be healthy, but once they fry the shell and pile on the cheese it's back to heart attack city.  

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Disagree re SF (4.00 / 1)
San Francisco does not have an absurd number of good restaurants, which are often reasonably priced, as well. It has precisely the right amount of them.

Madison, WI, now that's a town with an absurd number of decent restaurants.


The business I started broke from this exact issue (0.00 / 0)
On the internet before you use stuff you can only compare on price, so the lowest price generally won regardless of the quality of the products.

My opinion is that to combat that you create a regulatory agency that rates all of the resturants and informs of quality.  It could be all web 2.0 as well.

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here in SF, yelp is king (0.00 / 0)
I don't know about the rest of the country, but every single restaurant here has a Yelp page.  The more popular cafes and restaurants have literally hundreds of reviews each.

I even picked my dentist using yelp, finding the one that was top-rated within walking distance of my house (which is not the one that was closest to me), and have been quite happy with my very nice and competent dentist.

Yelp and craigslist are quite a complimentary set of resources, and both started in SF and are reflective of "San Francisco Values". :)

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[ Parent ]
an anecdote (4.00 / 4)
i grew up in the country, and while there was not exactly a surfeit of great restaurants there, the quality of food served in them was generally above that of fast food joints, mainly because most places used local produce and/or relied upon a reputation for 'home cooking' to remain successful. when i moved to the 'hood, i was shocked, not only by the lack of quality places to eat, but the enthusiasm many locals had for the awful crap they were being served. i asked a friend, born and bred in the South Side, why he would eat at a greasy fried fish place day after day, despite the fact that as members of the University, we had access to equally cheap and much tastier and healthier fare the U shipped in from uptown yuppie restaurants. he shrugged, and said he just never thought about it, and habit was hard to break. keep in mind, this young man was highly educated, a member of the 'talented tenth,' and aware of the health risks facing most black people, and the relationship between higher risk of obesity and diabetes and the foods many blacks traditionally eat.

the point i'm trying to make is that there is not, in far too many places in this country, a culture of healthy food consumption. imho, it's still very much limited to the upper classes, and the lower classes of all races revel in rejecting "snobby" foods and preparation methods, despite the health benefit. my own father, who just suffered another heart attack, still refuses to believe that my mother's concern for his eating habits has to do with his health. "she just wants to control me," he says. similarly, i think it will be tough to force a reduction in the number of unhealthy restaurants and foodstuffs in many regions, because people will perceive such as "government interference" and an attack upon traditional culture by "elitists" and racists.  


LA problem the very one Adam Smith wanted to solve (4.00 / 3)
The odd thing about free market worship is its failure to recognize market failures. It's just like the "end days" psychology. Just because the apocalypse doesn't arrive on the predicted date doesn't mean the prophecy was wrong. It's a powerful, human cognitive defense system, kind of a star wars of the mind. Incoming information that would disrupt a happy illusion is simply zapped out of the stream before any damage is done to the belief system.

Smith and other free market champions hoped to revolutionize a market dominated by local monopolies. Smith's hopes were egalitarian; but the market, it turns out, often recapitulates many of the problems of unequal access and inequity it was created to "solve."

The fast food problem is a great example. The community and its would be entrepreneurs are disabled by a market dominated by the fast-food monopoly. It's the very problem Smith wanted to solve.


Food carts in NYC (0.00 / 0)
http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site...

Bloomberg has been pushing an initiative to put fresh fruit and vegetable carts in low-income areas.  I think this is on the right track as well.  I'm not positive where the exact solution is between "push/pull" type solutions, ie banning things vs. subsidies for other options like fresh fruit.  I think this is an area that needs more focus, as we've already seen how diet affects health care costs, education levels, crime and violence in prisons (no time to link to the studies, but I can follow up).  

Also, food is culture so these initiatives really need to start locally and with the support of the community.  


Time for SCFM (0.00 / 0)
It would be nice if we could popularize "so-called free market" as well as we popularized SCLM. Even if only amongst ourselves it would still serve as a constant reminder for us as we think about economics.

Jeff Wegerson

some other factors at work (0.00 / 0)
For some, there is no other viable economic alternative. The cost of a McMeal is so low comparatively to anything else, in particular healthy foods. Also there is the issue of brand loyalty and brand imprinting. There is something to be said about the lemon effect, but it is not nearly the primary reason for the success of fast food.

you seriously think people are this stupid? (0.00 / 0)
"buyers have less information about the product than sellers"

so your theory is people are just confused about fast food - they think its good because fast food does better marketing?

nonsense. people buy fast food because its cheap and also because its tasty. the first one is an economic problem, and city council obsessions with regulating the fast food industry is simply a scapegoat for addressing the real problems of affordability and poverty.

I'll be siding with the libertarians thank you very much, and looking for the LA City Council to actually do something courageous like enact legislation that addresses the core problem, not this bullshit.

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare


missing the point (0.00 / 0)
No, I'm saying the opposite, that people don't buy food from independent diners because there is a risk when they do so that the food will be a low quality good.  With fast food, they know what they are getting.

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Sunstein (0.00 / 0)
This is playing right into his arguments in NUDGE -- wondering if there are "libertarian paternalist" ways to get government to encourage folks to choose better restaurants, as opposed to the more aggressive stance of banning them altogether.  Think about whether the American Heart Association or some kind of organic foods association could come up with a "heart healthy" or "planet-healthy" certification that places can use to address that risk factor.

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No (0.00 / 0)
If you want to know whether there are other tools available to deal with this, yes there are.  I do not use Sunstein's libertarian paternalistic language because it is a stupid way to analyze social problems.

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fine. call it whatever you want (0.00 / 0)
And let's assume Sunstein were never born.  Short of banning fast food restaurants, how can we help "good" restaurants promote themselves as reliable?

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Fast food stores are bad neighbors (4.00 / 1)
There are multiple downsides for fast food outlets besides diet- they also generate huge amounts of trash and litter, both of which are usually "paid" for by the general community and not by the owner of the franchise (as a city dweller myself, I find this particularly obnoxious).  They suck up large amounts of electric power for their advertising and parking lights, and increase carbon emissions through cars idling at their drive-through windows.  Most of the profits are sent out of town, and they usually don't buy local produce.  If you've ever lived near one, they are usually an unwelcome neighbor.  I don't see why a city government shouldn't limit them just like they limit other commercial uses.  

Matt, what is "fast food"? (0.00 / 0)
When you talk about pulling "the low quality predictable options out of the market" does that include the taco truck in my neighborhood or the barbeque joint just down the road? They have many features of a "fast food" restaurant (primarily take-out, low-cost items with broad popular appeal). And what if instead of these "fast food" places we had more "higher quality" establishments like Panera Bread and Chipotle Grill (also owned by McDonalds and serving the same bland, industrialized pap, just in a nicer context geared to a higher-income demographic)? No, restaurant bans are not the answer because one person's definition of what constitutes "good food" is often radically different from another person's . If you want to solve an economic problem of local enterprises being blocked out of the market by corporate franchises, develop an economic solution, not an aesthetic one.

in NYC (0.00 / 0)
all fast food restaurants must list calories on food. now I have only noticed this in starbucks but i must say it is empowering to know the exact calorie count of your muffin, espresso brownie or lemon scone. if it was required everywhere the added info would drive healthier food products because i think folks would choose better foods if they knew what they were getting...creating a demand that suppliers would meet.  

London was a good example (0.00 / 0)
This post reminded me of an essay Paul Krugman wrote a while ago.  The money quote is this:

The appreciation of good food is, quite literally, an acquired taste--but because your typical Englishman, circa, say, 1975, had never had a really good meal, he didn't demand one. And because consumers didn't demand good food, they didn't get it.

It's a little hard for me to get wholeheartedly behind a ban when I haven't been to an In 'N Out burger yet, but I think the general idea that a lack of information leads to limited, suboptimal choices is spot on.


Not an information problem (0.00 / 0)
You draw the distinction between branded and mom and pop restaurants, but in these neighborhoods most mom and pop restaurants serve unhealthy food too. Without other incentives, most eateries will default to serving that too. It's not an issue of cheap quality ingredients. Fried chicken, pizza, and 1/2 lb burgers aren't healthy no matter what quality ingredients you buy and how carefully you prepare it. I also suspect fried food is popular because it's sanitary. The high heat kills germs.

The information problem does apply more to trans fats. We know all fried food is bad, but if you look superficially at a fry, you don't know if it was fried in trans fat or not. It tastes about the same. The restaurant owner would know it's less perishable and therefore cheaper.  


speaking of behavioural capitalism... (0.00 / 0)
When you mention a book like "no one makes you shop at wall mart", you should add a link to it through Amazon with your referrer ID, and make money when people buy the book using the link.  It makes it easy for your readership, and you make money whenever people buy books, too.  I'm not affiliated with amazon, I'm just buying the book and would like it if you got the credit for pointing me to it.

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