10 Reasons For The False Media Narrative of A "Tied Campaign"

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 14:45


10 Reasons For The False Media Narrative of A "Tied Campaign"

The media narrative of a tied campaign is yet another sign of the rightwing bias of the Versailles media, but it is not a simple phenomena.  In fact, it has many contributing elements, each of which, in turn, is a result of rightwing influence combined with press laziness of at least distinct kinds--intellectual laziness, the habit of not thinking things through, and ordinary laziness, the habit of simply not bothering to check things out.

While I'm certain to have missed something, I've compiled a list of contributing factors to "campaign is tied" narrative.  This list is my attempt to show why this false narrative is so deeply embedded, and so impervious to facts.

Of course the real reason is the conservative Republican dominance of Versailles, the result of a virtually-unopposed 30-40 year Gramscian "culture war"/"war of position", that involves systematically taking over all the reality-defining cultural institutions they can get their hands on.  But that long-term structural advantage has to be translated into various forms that directly impact campaign coverage.  This is my attempt to map out the major ones as they appear to me now.  The reasons appear on the flip.

Paul Rosenberg :: 10 Reasons For The False Media Narrative of A "Tied Campaign"
10 Reasons For The False Media Narrative

(1) The belief that "this is a center-right country," and hence a solid Democratic lead is unthinkable, and thus, unreportable.  The belief that "this is a center-right country" is one of the key narratives supporting the conservative Republican takeover of elite politics. This belief,  long promoted by the right, is based on self-identification as "moderate," "liberal," or "conservative."  It overlooks the fact that a large plurality--and near majority--of self-identified "conservatives" are actually liberal in their political attitudes toward New Deal spending programs and liberal internationalist foreign policy, as first observed by pioneering researchers Lloyd Free and Hadley Cantril in their 1967 book, The Political Beliefs of Americans: A Study of Public Opinion.  Their findings have been supported by decades of puiblic opinion research, most notably that carried out by General Social Survey, as I've discussed on various occasions, such as "The Myth Of A Polarized Public" and "Center-Left America--Vast Support For the Welfare State".  The dominance of liberal policy attitudes is an enduring fact of American political life, though subject to fluctuations in strength.  It has been growing stronger for some time now.

More particularly, the belief that "this is a center-right country" is often used to dismiss consideration of views that are demonstrably majoritarian, such as support for withdrawal from Iraq,   increased social spending , or warrantless wiretapping.  Even if the claim were true, it would simply be sloppy reasoning to argue from a general premise ("this is a center-right country") to a specific conclusion ("public opinion on this issue is center-right") when there is specific polling data to the contrary.

(2) Belief in a static, narrowly-divided electorate, precluding the possibility of a decisive Democratic victory.  The Versailles media cannot even bring itself to admit how deeply unpopular Bush is, how high the "wrong track" numbers are, how bad the Republican prospects in Congress are this year.  If all this is beyond their ken, then how can we expect them to know about shifts in party ID?  It's not like they know how to use Google.  Nonetheless, polling from both Pew, and Rasmussen clearly shows that the partisan balance between Democrats and Republicans has shifted dramatically from near-parity in the early 2000s back toward the traditional dominance of Democratic self-identification.

(3) Belief in the conservative framing of "character" as the bedrock of politics has multiple implications that inhibit accurate reporting of the race.  This framing of "character" as central has long been the secret for how conservatives manage to win elections despite the fact that most people are liberal on most policy issues.  It provides an easy framework for pundits to blather on endlessly without ever needing to expend any intellectual effort whatsoever.  No need to know any facts or figures, much less be able to reason about them.  Polling data? That's nerdsville, baby!  All you have to do is gossip, call it "political analysis" and collect your paycheck.  But the simple fact is that politics is about the enactment of public policy.  It makes no difference whatsoever if those passing such policies and implementing them are saints or sinners in their private lives.  The politics of "character" is a red herring so big, it could swallow the whale that swallowed Jonah.

(4) Belief in the conservative narrative that conservative leaders are heroic figures and Democrats are depraved.  This builds directly on the point above, and is its single most powerful mode of influencing coverage of the race.  Glenn Greenwald's book, Great American Hypocrites: Toppling the Big Myths of Republican Politics (reviewed here, interview here) dissects in detail how this narrative framing is used to defeat Democrats and elect conservative Republicans, and how false it is.  But so long as it is taken seriously, it seriously impares the ability to see what is directly in front of their faces--including a race that has not been tied for a very long time now.

(5) Serial examination of individual polls, without looking at them in terms of trends or aggregates.  This is the standard modus-operandi for most poll reporting.  Comparison is generally limited to the previous similar poll. Media outlets who commission polls routinely ignore other polls, while other media are oblivious to house effects.  The end result is that most polls, taken by themselves, are either within the margin of error, or can at least plausibly be described as "close" (a highly relative term.)  The fact that months and months of such polls give a very different cumulative picture is easily ignored.

(6) Failure to recognize house effects, and results of disproportionate frequency of polls with most pro-McCain house effects.  This was discussed by Chris, earlier this week in his diary, "Rasmussen and Gallup Still Lagging Behind Other Polls":

Two weeks ago, Alan I. Abramowitz pointed out a significant statistical discrepancy between the Gallup and Rasmussen daily tracking polls, and all other national polls on the presidential campaign:

Here's what I found. Since the beginning of May over 74 days of polling, the Gallup tracking poll has shown Barack Obama with an average lead of 1.6 percentage points over John McCain. During the same time period, the Rasmussen tracking poll, over 76 days of polling, has shown Obama with an average lead of 1.8 percentage points. But during the exact same time period, 38 other national polls have shown Obama with an average lead of 5.2 percentage points.

Abramowitz's data was through July 21st. Given that this discrepancy continues to persist, I thought I would update it. From July 22nd through today, there have been forty-five national polls. Thirty-four of these polls were from Gallup and Rasmussen (although one was not a tracking poll), while eleven were from other polling firms. I found virtually the same discrepancy as Abramowitz.

It was also implicated by fladem, in the recent diary, "State versus National Polling: They both can't be right", discussed in the next point.

(7) Failure to focus on state-level data--both state-level polling data, and the cumulative maps and EV matchups that result.

Chris's EV maps have been a constant front-page reminder here at OpenLeft that the race is very much not tied, but that Obama enjoys a massive advantage in the size of his base, and has multiple ways of securing an Electoral College victory.  I've weighed in on the state-level view myself, but here I'd like to focus on a somewhat different point, raised by fladem in a recent diary, "State versus National Polling: They both can't be right":

In late June I posted here a summary of state polling that looks not at the Electoral College, but rather at what the state polls say about the state of the election.  The graph below updates that work and compares the state polls to the national average.


One of the reasons I like to make this comparison is that it avoids reliance on a limited number of pollsters.  Right now the narrative is being driven by two polling groups, one of whom (Rasmussen) had a mixed record in the primaries.   In contrast, there have been over 150 separate state polls in the last two months taken by over a dozen different pollsters.  Right now the state averages do not support a tied race.  In fact, they show a race that hasn't materially changed over the last 10 days.    As I have written before, when a significant gap opens between national polling and state polling, the state polling is usually right.

What makes Rasmussen interesting is that it also does a significant amount of state polling.  In fact, nearly half of all state polling is done by Rasmussen.   And that is where it gets interesting.  It is impossible to reconcile Rasmussen's State polling with their National Polling.

 Since July 24th Rasmussen has released  7 polls. On average they show a swing from 2004 of  13.34%, which translates into a roughly 11 point Obama lead Nationwide.  During the same  period Rasmussen was showing an National Obama lead of 3.  There is simply no way to square the Rasmussen state results with their National Polling.

Of course, one partial explanation for what fladem has observed is that a disproportionate amount of state-level polling is taking place in states Bush won, where Obama is making serious inroads, and these dramatic shifts are partly offset by less noticeable shits elsewhere.  But since these appear to be the only states where significant change (from one party to another) is afoot, this only further enhances the argument that pundits are ignoring important state-level data.

(8) Failure to recognize how a modest (i.e. 5-point) margin can result in an EV landslide.  As discussed in my diary yesterday, "Popular v. Electoral College Margins".

(9) Failure to compare the course of this race to previous ones.  The most obvious parallel being ignored is 1980, which clearly was a referendum on Carter, and where the challenger, Reagan, was inexperienced on the national level.  A close race finally became an Electoral College landslide, once people became comfortable with Reagan, as a result of his debate performance.  

(10) Versailles media ignoring the impact of their own bias on the race.  Finally, the punditalkcrazy and the Versailles media in general routinely and systematically ignore the impact of their own bias, the narratives they spread and those they ignore or suppress.  This reflects back on subjects already discussed above, but perhaps its biggest impact can be summarized in terms of two points:

  • Versailles media narratives inhibit Democrats from taking more popular positions, and making them central to their campaigns.  There's little doubt in my mind that Obama is not much of an economic populist.  But he does at least have some capacity to play the role, and some understanding (clouded though it might be) of its inherent logic and justice.  We saw this come out during the primary campaign, and we saw it shrink afterwards under the scrutiny of the Versailles press.  Repudiating economic populism is quite popular with them.  With the public, however--those pesky voters!--not so much.

  • The Versailles media repeats and reinforces McCain's mythical narratives.  If you have any doubt what I'm talking about, simply contrast McCain's image of commanding presence and straight talk with this video compilation, from TPM:

    That is the real McCain, uncensored and unedited by his adoring fans in the Versailles media. Without their militant support, this race would not even be close to being close, and the "race is tied" narrative could not even be whispered without evoking snickers, if not guffaws.

Conclusion

The above 10 points are hardly exhaustive.  But they do give some sense of why Versailles clings so tenaciously to the "race is tied" narrative.  Of course, as noted in the introduction, the real reason is much more basic--the right has been fighting a Gramscian "culture war"/"war of position" for 30-40 years now, and the left has not.  As a result, the right dominates a wide range of key reality-defining institutions, and it engages in coordinated efforts to spin things in its sleep that are far more sweeping, multifaceted and effective than anything that progressives can come up with in their most caffeinated hyper-vigilant state.  The above reasons are merely the modalities through which the right's long-term advantage of fighting the Gramscian culture war unopposed get translated into action in the short run of a single presidential campaign.


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Agree with all except 3 and 4- character (0.00 / 0)
That's not a conservative or liberal construction. It's a human nature one. People look character issues when deciding on leadership. Think of it on the most local level. How do you choose leadership there if you have two qualified people with whom you agree on the substance? This of course isn't exactly the same because you don't have that nationally, but you can certainly see how the impact isn't merely a conservative frame. I also disagree about character not being a factor just because i happen to think it is. I do think it matters what motivates the personality and leadership of our country. It doesn't mean the conservative definition, but it does mean looking into what it is. It also doesn't mean the double standard as so often applied to character in which as you describe the GOP =Heroic and the Democrats= Depraved, but that doesn't change the reality that character can and should be a factor. I would just change the criterion.  

Part Vs. All (4.00 / 1)
The best lies always have a bit of the truth about them.  You seem to be arguing that because there is some truth in the character claim, it must all be true.  But that's quite mistaken.  To take the two points separately:

(3) I'm not saying that character is irrelevant.  I'm saying that governance is about sound policies, regardless of character.  If someone does the right thing for the wrong reason in personal life, we might not think very much of them.  But if politicians do the right thing for the wrong reason, as a general rule, we rightly just don't care.

Relating this back to "the most local level" and then asking, "How do you choose leadership there if you have two qualified people with whom you agree on the substance?" is simply repeating the rightwing argument, and glossing over the very point of the argument--these are not local elections (where you might actually be able to assess character, as opposed to it's multi-million dollar appearance), there is not agreement on substance, and the conserative is almost always not qualified, either.

Now, of course I admit that there's a hook into human nature here.  That's the whole point.  You don't sell false arguments by basing them on nothing.  You try to find something deep in human nature to connect them to.  But the connection you make is not a logical one.  It's usually a physchological one, an associational one (he struts like a leader, so he must be a leader), anything but a logical one, because logic is not on their side.

Finally:

I do think it matters what motivates the personality and leadership of our country. It doesn't mean the conservative definition, but it does mean looking into what it is.

But talk about character almost invariably obscures this, rather than illuminating it.  Thus, Bush's high character meant we couldn't ask embarrasing questions about him going AWOL with the Texas Air National Guard, and how that fit into a lifetime pattern of irresponsible behaviour, always getting bailled by his father's connections--up to an including having the 2000 election stolen for him.  And McCain's high character means we can't talk about his cheating on his first wife, his intimacy with lobbyists, etc.

(4) This point is far more striaghtforward.  Please go back and read my review of Glenn's book and/or the interview I did with him, to get clear on what the argument is.  (Links in the diary.) Nothing you wrote really speaks to that.  What might be true in theory has no relation to what has historically been the case for several decades now.

LBJ was not a noble man, but he had noble aspirations.  And if he'd been more of a bastard, and had more confidence in his powers as a bastard, he might have resisted going to war in Vietnam, and ended up as a truly great President.  Politics is complicated, and often deeply contradictory that way.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Character is a bad judge (4.00 / 1)
The strongest point that you made was about character.  George W. Bush had demostrably bad character but the media judged him to have superior character to either Al Gore (the alleged serial liar, what a lie) or John Kerry (the flip flopper).  Character as presented in the media is usually not a ggod test of character.  Oddly, two Republicans suffered long term character assault from the Bush family: Bob Dole and John McCain.  Both were attacked for anger by the Bush family apparatchiks.  David Broder bought it hook, line, and sinker.  Patricians and wannabes must be particularly sensitive to this point.

George W. Bush was long known to blow up when it was suggested he had gotten a free ride in life and is currentlky known to be abusive to his staff and other government workers.  Who has the anger problem?  The one without Broder in his hip pocket.

Character is weird.  Nobody exhibited greater character than Grant did during the Civil War and few US Presidents showed less while in office.  Was Grant a man of superior character or great weakness?  Pick your time period.  Harry Truman is greatly admired for the character he showed asa President but was considered a lightweight by some before he took office.  

What is a good predictor of performance?  Resume and policies.


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Character (4.00 / 2)
I think people prefer to understand themselves as voting on character because they are very carefully taught that they cannot really understand policies. This is one of the major effects of our "education." They think they do understand "character."

As for why the media needs to pretend all elections are highly competitive -- they have nothing to report it they admit they are not.

Can it happen here?


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Perhaps we have a difficult time to win White House elections... (4.00 / 1)
because we are so academic and introspective and fail to get the job done. Hello. Let's vote and quit talking about it.

Clinton in '08. Or give Carter a 2nd term. Vote for Obama!

The traditional media is fairly inept (4.00 / 2)
The way they fell for that tire gauge stunt was inexcusable.  I'm trying to turn the tables on the McCain folks and their stupid stunt. I'm having gauges made and selling them on eBay in hopes of raising $2300 for Obama (the max contribution). If you are down, can you please forward this on to other like minded folks. Thanks!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...


(11) Inability to create anything else worth watching (4.00 / 6)
That's the main reason, I think.  I mean...I can't get enough of the documentaries about the possibility that Sacramento may be destroyed by flood (must see TV), but--these lazy producers have nothing else to sell but a 'close race.' It's the same reason we have 100,000 'reality' TV shows--because the first one was a huge success.  The close Dem primary was such a huge hit on TV, they're going to 'report' another close race.  OMG!  The race is close...you won't want to miss this.

It's pathetic...


Ah Yes! Sequelitis! (4.00 / 1)
Rocky, Part XXX!  Even more fun than Rocky, Part XXIX!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Some things I don't agree with (0.00 / 0)
The Versailles media cannot even bring itself to admit how deeply unpopular Bush is, how high the "wrong track" numbers are, how bad the Republican prospects in Congress are this year.

Really?  I don't think this is the case at all.  Where in the traditional media can you find any election coverage saying that the Republicans have even the slightest chance of gaining any seats in Congress?  The GOP's bad-to-horrendous election outlook in both the House and the Senate seems to be very well understood and accepted as such by the media, as far as I can tell.  Same thing with Bush's historically bad approval ratings.

Some of your points are certainly accurate: #8, in particular, plus some of your arguments about the widespread innumeracy and poor understanding of polling trends within the media.  No argument from me there.  

But #9 is also one I would sort of disagree with, as I've heard the 1980 comparison made a number of times by pundits or analysts on TV.  I've seen it brought up as one of a few possibilities, i.e. a pundit will say, "it could be a close election, or it could be like 1980, where it was close until Reagan pulled away for a blowout win at the end."      


I Shoud Have Been Clearer--I'm Not Saying These Things Are NEVER Said (4.00 / 1)
I see that I should bave been clearer about this and written a slightly longer, and more nuanced introduction.

The point about hegemony and it's manifestations is not that certain topics are never discussed, or that certain narratives are never heard, it's that they are never central.  They may appear as transient distractions, or even as exotic adornemnts, but if you pontificate on them repeatedly, you will soon be disappeared as a "nut", part of "the loony left", etc.  In contrast, if you pontificate repeatedly on one the hegemonically sanctioned themes, you will be stroked repeatedly, even if your syntax is mangled, and you repeat yourself endlessly making the same limited number of points over and over and over again.

So, yes, the Republicans in Congress are doing so badly that even they have stopped pretending they won't lose some seats.  And so it's okay to discuss this in polite society.  But not to dwell on it, and certainly not to talk about it in historical terms, as a wholesale repudiation of their governing philosophy and practice.  It's all phrased in terms like "a tough year for Republicans," as if it were an atmospheric or climatological problem beyond their control--like vintners faced with a too wet spring spoiling the taste of their wine crop.

OTOH, if it was the Democrats who were down like this, we would be hearing endlessly about how unpopular they were because of their class warfare, baby-killing and their cooties, with constant reminders of 1994.  And that's the kind of discourse that you will never hear about the GOP.

Beyond that, my further point was that because the GOP's misfortunes are not tied to their own actions and philosophy, they are not connected directly to John McCain.  The only way they are connected to him is to once again further his "maverick" myth.

Likewise, the comparison to 1980 does get made from time to time, but it doesn't prevent the normative narrative from being a straight vanilla "tight horserace."  It's like Jeffrey notes above--they have their storyline from the first movie.  Why change it for the sequel?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Media bias of a different kind (4.00 / 2)
Most of your points ring true, some like #10 very true.  Most are variations on laziness and lack of any real historical knowledge or sense.  

I'd also add the following.

-The real truth of the "character" part is the laziness factor.  It is easy to make subjective generalizations about "character" and hard to analyze policies and positions.  Look how little analysis there is of McCain's bellicose comments on Georgia and the influence of neocon magical thinking and Randy Scheuneman's lobbying on same, and their likely consequences (but see Matt Yglesias and Ben Smith at Politico) and how much on John Edwards.

Another factor is the general wimpiness of the DCbased press (as opposed to those who go abroad, sometimes to dangerous places and ferret out real stories) and their fascination and worship of political gamesmanship and supposed "toughness" that led them to venerate a sleazebag like Karl Rove.

-The media herd mentality is crucial.  They all follow much the same narrative and can't break away from it.  better to be wrong with everyone else than right by yourself.  You'd think it would be the opposite, but it is part of the laziness and cowardice, I suppose. Once they've done that, they can't admit a mistake like supporting Bush/Cheney and their war and shredding of the Constitution, and why people wqho do break these stories find they sink back into oblivion after a little splash.

I think these 3 are a large part of what makes them accept the framing about depraved Dems or Dems in disarray or whatever the GOP is peddling that week.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


That underscore is an accident (0.00 / 0)
Don't know how it happened.  I meant that line.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.

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I mean strikeout. (0.00 / 0)
Time for a nap.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.

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In Short... (4.00 / 2)
it's the Versailles media's own lack of character that's the problem.

Makes sense to me.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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My latest 'favorite' example of this is (4.00 / 1)
the weekly VP speculation. I love it when a show's moderator goes around the room and they all say the same thing and then they all get back together after a week of MSM alterations and repeat the altered version verbatim en masse.


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also (4.00 / 3)
When I see someone like Charlie Gibson ask biased questions about tax cuts, I can't help but remember that basically every host on TV faces higher taxes under Obama.


New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

In a rut (4.00 / 2)
One doesn't have to propose any sort of conspiracy theory, just a lack of intellectual depth on the part of "pundits".

There are a steady flow of what I call "BSO's" these days (book shaped objects) which take a small point and then stretch it beyond all recognition to book length.

I'm in the midst of one such: "The Big Sort" by Bill Bishop. His point is that people are more self segregated into tight groups than previously. He means the rightwing, bible belt types vs the coastal liberals.

He makes much of the (alleged) strength of the religious right as proof of his point.

On the other hand the recent book by Christine Wicker, "The Fall of the Evangelical Nation" uses more detailed information to show that this group is consistently overestimated as to the size of its membership.

The age of "sweeping over-generalizations" continues apace. At least Rousseau, Marx and the other philosophes were good writers.

I blame it on TV. When you have to fill 168 hours every week, week in and week out, you end up spouting drivel.

Policies not Politics


Yes, But That's Only Because (0.00 / 0)
I blame it on TV. When you have to fill 168 hours every week, week in and week out, you end up spouting drivel.

They lack the good sense to simply replay classics like The Prisoner, and confine themselves to saying, "Awesome, dude!"

Hmmmm.... and here I thought The Big Sort was about the hidden similarities between Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore.

No, seriously, I completely agree.  It's Hollywood "high concept" (oxymoron much?) does books.  Hilarity ensues, but only to keep from crying.

OTOH, I've been meaning to get Wicker's book.  I heard her interviewed on some Pacific program or other, and her work sounded really fascinating.

Another thing to be said for the philosophes is that they were writing before we had all this much more detailed data.  They were doing pioneering speculative work--though they didn't realize it, of course--that still rings true enough in some of its core themes that people are rearguing, reinterpreting and refining them to this very day.  

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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OT-- DId you know they re making The Prisoner with Ian Mckellan as #2? (0.00 / 0)


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No I Didn't Know That (0.00 / 0)
except that it does seem to ring a distant bell.  I am, however, so accustomed to hearing about projects that excite me which never end up being made.  I remember a long ways back hearing about a big budget production of The Stars My Destination, even had some big name director attached, according to what I heard.  Disappeared without a trace.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Actually now that I thinka bout it they are also remaking (0.00 / 0)
the Conversation as a TV series. Maybe part of the issue is just that they are slow as in glacial to change as an instrument of social action rather than the media being impervious to change? Maybe by 2016 they will be where you are in 2008?

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Or as someone said, (0.00 / 0)
Data do not equal knowledge and knowledge does not equal wisdom.  True wisdom comes from sitting and just kind of mentally drifting or being receptive to whatever surfaces from the unconscious, and seeing patterns and connections.  The philosophes had many fewer distriactions and time to think and ponder as well as write.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.

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Oooh! Ooooh! I got one to add to the list! (0.00 / 0)
#11: Influenced by constant whining about the Obama campaign in the Netroots.

Words I hope will be retired soon (0.00 / 0)
smear and whining. Phrases I hope that will be retired soon "get on the bus" They don't have any real meaning anymore. They are becoming like the word progressive.

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Haven't you heard? (0.00 / 0)
'Progressive' means 'anything I like' and 'fascist' means 'anything I don't like'.

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yes so I gathered when reading over at Daily Kos that (4.00 / 1)
FISA really isn't a progressive concern. That bloggers are just being a bunch of whiners who needed to get on the bus because they don't understand the American people doen't even care about the issue,a nd if we don, we risk Obama losing to McCain. Afterwards there were things like smear thrown out for good measure. Etc. Sadly I 've heard it from different supporters in differing context, but always the same thrust. Another phrase I hope to retire is purist. That was another phrase that used to have meaning but now is tossed out to well make one defensive. You are purist soon turns into full defensive of how one is actually not a purist.

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And thrown under the bus (0.00 / 0)
should be thrown under the bus.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.

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