Moveon, the DLC & Difference Between Movements and Parties

by: David Sirota

Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 16:01


There is a big difference between movement ideology and pure partisanship - a difference pretty well spelled out in today's story about Evan Bayh in the New York Times.
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Here's what ideology looks like:

"The antiwar people cannot define the Democratic Party," said Al From, a founder of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council, of which Mr. Bayh was chairman for four years. "I think Evan's real strength is you get someone on the ticket who has a record of being strong on national security, and that is a very important quality to have."

From, the head of a neoconservative corporate front group, is happy to attack the antiwar majority in America and push Bayh as a VP choice because - based on Bayh's voting record - Bayh will be a vehicle for From's (nauseating) ideology.

Now, by contrast, here's what partisanship looks like:

Eli Pariser, the executive director of the antiwar group MoveOn.org, said that Mr. Obama had a variety of factors to weigh in making a choice and that he was not ready to say that Mr. Bayh should be ruled out because of his views at the start of the war.

"We are not going to get into which particular person is good or bad," Mr. Pariser said. "We hope that emphasizing Senator Obama's judgment against the war is something they consider in making their pick."

In effectively OK-ing the VP nomination of a politician who has consistently voted against Moveon's organizational mission, the Moveon leadership lets us in on the secret that I reported in my book: namely that Moveon today operates first and foremost as a partisan appendage. Instead of using the VP question - and the presidential election as a whole - as an instrument to build the antiwar movement, Moveon's quote suggests the organization is willing to go along with almost anyone Obama chooses, regardless of how their career has undermined that movement, regardless of whether Bayh's backers are citing his potential nomination as proof that the Democratic Party should reject the movement Moveon purports to champion.

Just to give show you that it is, indeed, possible for an antiwar movement message to be fired through the vice presidential prism, take a look at this quote from the same NY Times story:

"He was not only wrong, he was aggressively wrong," said Tom Andrews, national director of the Win Without War coalition, referring to Mr. Bayh. "In my view, he would contradict if not undermine the Obama message of change, turning a new page on foreign policy and national security."

In other words, it's not either or here, folks. Indeed, there is a way to use elections as tools for movements and for change - rather than using elections as ends unto themselves.

As one aside, I actually think Al From severely hurt Evan Bayh's chances of being nominated, simply because he reminded folks that Bayh's definition of "strength" on national security is to support the Bush national security policy that polls show Americans believe has severely weakened the country. That said, I think Moveon significantly helped Bayh's chances by saying that despite the Indiana senator's horrific voting record, the organization would be fine with his nomination.

P.S. Note to the New York Times' Carl Hulse: Next time you write about "Indianans" as you put it, you might want to note that referring to folks from Indiana that way makes you look like an idiot. Folks from Indiana call themselves "Hoosiers" (full disclosure: I learned this lesson a long time ago when I first met my wife, who is a Hoosier).  


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great post (4.00 / 2)
i wish more analyses like this were out there.  the distinction between movement and partisan politics gets obscured (imo intentionally) too frequently.

Likewise, (4.00 / 1)
People from Connecticut are technically Connecticutters, but no one ever uses that term. Nutmeggers is the predominant term. (Even if UConn's mascot is not the Nutmegger, but the Husky (and contrary to popular opinion, it's not because of the Yukon/UConn homophone)).

Also, re-read the Al From blockquote. Talk about a circular talking point, completely free of any real meaning... It's not ideology so much as it's nonsense.  

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that."
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For the record... (0.00 / 0)
David,

Just to clarify for the record: we certainly didn't "OK" Evan Bayh.

What I told the Times was that we had no member mandate to get into whether a particular person was better or worse than another particular person, but that we hope underscoring his opposition to the war is a high priority for Obama.

--Eli


The quote (4.00 / 2)
Eli: The quote reads as if Moveon is AOK with Evan Bayh. Now, if that's not true, great. But that's how it reads. You could have said something like what Andrews said - but you didn't.

Let's be clear - I'm not shocked by Moveon's partisan disposition. That's what the organization started from. But it strikes me as odd that the organization would simultaneously claim to be movement oriented, but behave in such a straight-up partisan manner. That's what's really puzzling.


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What about a member mandate to criticize a particular person's BELIEFS? (0.00 / 0)
By not being vocal about Bayh's beliefs and positions vis-a-vis US militarism, you've made it that much easier for Obama to pick him as VP. You've thus passed up an opportunity to influence Obama towards one of Moveon's (presumably) core beliefs.

Myself, I think Obama should be verbally smacked down for outrageous flip flops, cave-ins, and inconsistencies with prior, superior positions. Had criticism been more overt and brusque than it was, Obama might have been saved some of the more stupid mistakes of late.

What will MoveOn say if Obama is elected, dies in office, then Bayh takes over and immediately starts a nice little war of aggression, to prove his {cough} {cough} national security bona fides? "Oops"? Or worse, yet, nothing, since he's got a 'D' after his name?

Looks like we need an organization called MoveOver. :-) MoveOver would pre-emptively strike at Bayh as serious choice for VP, by creating an ad showing the absurdity and almost sure hypocrisy of picking Bayh, given Obama's touting of his anti-Iraq war history. This would be the ad that honest Republicans would run, except that it would run (or at least be released for viral, internet distribution) BEFORE Obama shoots himself in the foot, again.

By "honest" Republicans, I'm thinking of Republican rank and file, not inside the Beltway types such as, e.g., Mr. Smear himself, Karl Rove. Thus, the ad would be negative, but completely factual.

For Democratic lemmings, attacking (even if indirectly) the likely Democratic nominee for President, as I suggest, is a non-starter. For patriotic Americans, though, who don't like being lied to and played, whether by D's or R's, this should not be a problem.



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Will Obama be influenced by anticipated Iran war hysteria? (0.00 / 0)
Got this in my email box today, from stopwaroniran.org:

Naval forces now heading towards the Gulf include:

Carrier Strike Group Nine:
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN72) nuclear powered carrier with its Carrier Air Wing Two
Destroyer Squadron Nine:
USS Mobile Bay (CG53) guided missile cruiser
USS Russell (DDG59) guided missile destroyer
USS Momsen (DDG92) guided missile destroyer
USS Shoup (DDG86) guided missile destroyer
USS Ford (FFG54) guided missile frigate
USS Ingraham (FFG61) guided missile frigate
USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG60) guided missile frigate
USS Curts (FFG38) guided missile frigate
Plus one or more nuclear hunter-killer submarines
Peleliu Expeditionary Strike Group:
USS Peleliu (LHA-5) a Tarawa-class amphibious assault carrier
USS Pearl Harbor (LSD52) assult ship
USS Dubuque (LPD8) assult ship/landing dock
USS Cape St. George (CG71) guided missile cruiser
USS Halsey (DDG97) guided missile destroyer
USS Benfold (DDG65) guided missile destroyer

Carrier Strike Group Two:
USS Theodore Roosevelt (DVN71) nuclear powered carrier with its Carrier Air Wing Eight
Destroyer Squadron 22:
USS Monterey (CG61) guided missile cruiser
USS Mason (DDG87) guided missile destroyer
USS Nitze (DDG94) guided missile destroyer
USS Sullivans (DDG68) guided missile destroyer
USS Springfield (SSN761) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine
IWO ESG ~ Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Iwo Jima (LHD7) amphibious assault carrier with its Amphibious Squadron Four
and with its 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit
USS San Antonio (LPD17) assault ship
USS Velia Gulf (CG72) guided missile cruiser
USS Ramage (DDG61) guided missile destroyer
USS Carter Hall (LSD50) assault ship
USS Roosevelt (DDG80) guided missile destroyer
USS Hartfore (SSN768) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine

Carrier Strike Group Seven:
USS Ronald Reagan (CVN76) nuclear powered carrier with its Carrier Air Wing 14
Destroyer Squadron 7:
USS Chancellorsville (CG62) guided missile cruiser
USS Howard (DDG83) guided missile destroyer
USS Gridley (DDG101) guided missile destroyer
USS Decatur (DDG73) guided missile destroyer
USS Thach (FFG43) guided missile frigate
USNS Rainier (T-AOE-7) fast combat support ship

As a pragmatic matter, I can understand being cowed into an aggressive posture. I helped a former customer of mine cater a fundraiser (after 9/11) for Democrats, and Senator Biden spoke. He said that he was getting asked by soccer mom types, all over the country "Are we safe?" It's not hard to imagine that a politician - a species not generally known for their honesty - would put aggressive posturing over honest conviction, in such an environment. So, if Obama is aware of a likely US strike, the resulting hysteria (especially if excacerbated by false flag operations right here in the US) would, in fact, make a principled stance much more difficult.

All the more reason that the Democrats, had they any principles, would have impeached Cheney and Bush, or at least tried to, and reigned in the military via the power of the purse. The principled thing for Obama to do is to point out that it's not in Iran's interest to start a war with the US, educate the public as to the history of false flag operations, point out, AHEAD OF TIME, that he's not going to line up like a lemming in case of a war started by the US (even if blamed on Iran), and sketch out a vision of collective security and cooperation. He could pledge, instead, to divest Iran of nuclear weapons, should they actually build any or acquire any under his watch. Scott Ritter, for one, would back him up on such an approach.

From what I've seen since he clinched the nomination, I can't escape the conviction that Obama is just as corrupt or cowardly as the average Congressional Democrat, even if he is more charismatic. Unfortunately, I expect him to throw principle in this matter under the bus, something he's quite capable of doing.

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