McCain Is Really Pissed Off

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Aug 21, 2008 at 16:30


You know you have landed a good attack on McCain when his spokespeople are visibly pissed off. This is now the case with the Obama ad on McCain not knowing how many homes he owns. Check out the McCain campaign's response (emphasis mine):

"We're delighted to have a real estate debate with Barack Obama," said spokesman Brian Rogers, adding that the press should focus on Obama's house. "It's a frickin' mansion."

"Fickin'" mansion, eh? Good that you are able to stay level headed about this, Rogers. The reason Rogers is pissed off is because this is a successful attack. The latest CBS poll shows that only 41% of the country feels they can relate to McCain, but that 55% indicate they can relate to Obama. Not to mention that McCain has been running on the notion that Obama is an out of touch, elitist celebrity. Doesn't feel too good when the tables are turned, eh?

This is an effective attack, as demonstrated by poll numbers and by the anger it draws from McCain's campaign. Further, it cuts right at the heart of McCain's central attack on Obama. And the Obama campaign is really attacking it hard. This is great stuff. Let's push it into a narrative.

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huh? (0.00 / 0)
frickin == really pissed off?

Is frickin used differently in other parts of the country?  


huh huh? (0.00 / 0)
What's the confusion?

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well.. (0.00 / 0)
at least where I am fricking is used interchangably with freaking. I don't get why "Its a freaking mansion" would be an angry response... Just curious if fricking is somehow considered profanity in some other part of the country to make anyone think that was anger.  

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Around here (0.00 / 0)
and I think everywhere, it's the pseudo-polite form of "frigging".

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Which in itself (4.00 / 5)
is a polite form of "f*cking"

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All of these words mean.... (4.00 / 3)
...'fucking'. And god how I wish he had just used the F word!  

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Don't say "frigging" (4.00 / 1)
"If you're going to use the F word, go for the gold!"

- "My Fellow Americans"

Ah, when's the last time they made a good slapstick buddy-chase movie about two ex-Presidents?  Oh, it was that one.


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Heh. (4.00 / 1)
   That's the only "bipartisan" movie I like.  Democrat to Republican: "Decaf?!  You pussy."

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where I am (4.00 / 1)
it's understood that you really want to remove the "ri" from "frickin'" and replace it with a "u".

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If You Don't Frickin Know What Frickin Means, There's No Frickin Sense In Telling You! (4.00 / 3)
Get a frickin clue, you dirty frickin hippie!

Where's my frickin snark button, when I really frickin need it???

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go ahead and look into it (4.00 / 16)
We know Obama made his money from best selling books.

McCain made his money by leaving his wife and children for a rich, younger woman.


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Who then made ~$2M off of the sale of an iconic American company (4.00 / 3)
to foreigners.  

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Did she have a vote on the sale? (4.00 / 1)
Any record of how she voted?

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Important point (0.00 / 0)
The sellling out of All-American companies is soemthing people definitely don't like. Someone should incestigate if the McCain's had a word in the decision.

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They definitely had a say (0.00 / 0)
If a major distributer were about to balk on the sale, I'm sure the board would take that seriously.  She also owned a bunch of stock.  The problem is that I don't think that much of what happened between the McCains and Anheuser-Busch is publicly available information.

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But, the point is (4.00 / 1)
while we can't know whether or not they opposed the deal, what we DO know is that they profited from the deal, regardless of whether they supported or opposed it.  

I'd at least be interested in hearing McCain say what his thoughts on the matter were.


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But it doesn't hurt (4.00 / 6)
to ask. And ask.

How did you vote on selling Budweiser to a bunch of Belgians? And how many million bucks did you make off the sale, again?


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She had a TON of stock (4.00 / 1)
and she profited from the sale, immensely, but to my knowledge, there's no record of her vote on the sale.

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then she should be pressured to disclose her vote (4.00 / 3)
If she doesn't disclose, then the presumption should be that she voted for the sale.

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Not that you shouldn't attack him on this... (4.00 / 2)
But can't you get some better icons? It's just that from a European perspective "John McCain: wants no part of that sugary piss" isn't a great hit.

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Heh. (0.00 / 0)
Well, my first response would be that, apparently, the Europeans totally wanted part of the sugary piss.  They, in fact, paid top dollar for ownership rights...

The second one would be to point out that, at least in my hometown, Anheuser-Busch has done far more as a corporate sponsor and has been very good on labor.

Also, I would say that Europeans didn't have Prohibition destroying everything but their largest breweries.  The American beer market in 1918 was radically different than what it evolved into by the late '40s.


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God (4.00 / 1)
how I want to see an ad made that plays Blondie's "Call Me," you know, the theme from "American Gigolo" made about McCain.

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Googlebomb! (4.00 / 1)
Choose your favorite McCain 7 Houses article Chris, and let's all change our sig files.  I'll be the first one in.

Apologize (4.00 / 3)
Perhaps the Obama camp should apologize.

"We apologize for saying McCain owns seven houses.  At first we thought it was really confusing, with multiple mansions on the same lot, condos combined to form one mega-condo and so on.  But recently it came to our realization that the number of houses John McCain owns was really quite simple to calculate.  It turns out only Cindy owns any property in the McCain family, so the correct number is ZERO.

Cindy owns seven houses."


They're now saying that Cindy was off limits (4.00 / 2)
The McCain camp is saying that wives were off limits, and because Cindy owns the homes, then the McCain can now take off the gloves.

Good.  It doesn't matter who owns McCain's mansions.  It doesn't matter who wears the pants in the McCain homes.  It doesn't change the fact that he has so many houses he can't even keep track - and that makes him out of touch with the average Joe.

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What a tool their campaign is ... (4.00 / 3)
like the gloves weren't coming off anyway ... what a bunch of WATB's

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paging Mike Stark (4.00 / 9)
This is what I've been hoping for all year--someone would ask McCain a question he would either flub or lie to answer.

Now we need someone like Mike Stark to move the ball down the field. A couple of weeks after "macaca," he asked George Allen if he'd ever used the n-word, and it led to a media firestorm.

Some activist needs to corner McCain and ask him a question pushing this meme which no journalist would ask him. If it's a question that makes McCain really mad, that's a bonus.

Any ideas?

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how about (4.00 / 1)
we ask McCain if he's ever used the n-word?

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or (4.00 / 11)
the c word? Or did he or didn't he tell the "ugly Chelsea" joke? So much nutcase crap to see, so little time.

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How about asking him whether he could do a pro-Cuba invasion (4.00 / 2)
version of "Wouldn't it be nice?"

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i hope it would matter (0.00 / 0)
he said he "[hates] the gooks" and always will during the 2000 primary and it didn't seem to nor does it seem to now.

It would be nice if someone in the American media didn't have short term and long term memory loss.


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After procuring an environmental specialist (4.00 / 1)
After procuring an environment specialist, who is willing to analyze the McCain homes for environmental friendliness (such as: do digs in sunny states like AZ have solar panels), they can run ads offering to have the specialists pay all of the McCain houses a visit and analyze them - with the results to be made public.

Not sure about the legal aspects of paying the environmental specialists. Then again, maybe they can find a reliable volunteer.


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If you <i>really</i> want to make hay out of this idea (4.00 / 1)
Instead of procuring an environmental specialist ahead of time, you can run ads saying that, in the spirit of bi-partisanhip, Obama would like to invite environmental specialists of all parties to enter a contest. The winner of the contest will get to volunteer (or be paid by the Obama campaign, if this is legal) to do an environmental assessment of the McCain houses. To enter the contest, all you have to do is explain why you think you or your company should be given this honor. Convincing entries are put in a hat, and the winners will be drawn, one for each house, at random.

This will help
1) emphasize the environment, in this campaign (that should make Al Gore happy)
2) draw a lot of attention, period
3) inject humor into the campaign; obviously, this is not the sort of bi-partisanship that McCain will appreciate
4) depending on the results of the analyses, likely  raise serious questions about McCain's awareness of environmental issues, or at least how seriously he takes them.

This could be milked for quite a bit of free coverage, assuming it plays out as I expect. E.g. you could have a 3-4 week period where you both advertise the contest, plus read (hopefully humorous) entries into the contest by reasonably qualified entrants in some ad spots. You'd want to have both Republican and Democrat entrants.

A little birdie tells me that, once the winners are declared, McCain will scream bloody murder about letting the winners do their jobs. That, of course, will be grist for the mill. I could see another 3-4 weeks of driving the point home.

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It's a frickin' mansion! (0.00 / 0)
I want that on a t-shirt.

Upping the ante (4.00 / 8)
I think there are 2 points that could be added to the attack mix:

--Has McCain ever gotten a paycheck that didn't come from the government? He went to the airforce academy, presumably on the taxpayers' dime, and it appears that every paycheck since has been signed by the US Treasury. Nothing wrong with that, but it comes back to how he got the 7 houses and the rest of his seemingly unlimited fortune. This is what happens from being devoted to public service? Unlike Obama, he's never had what most people see as a real job, or what it is to lose one, so what does he know about the day to day concerns and fears of ordinary folks/

--Start using the term "heiress" whenever talking about his fortune and his family.


Oopsie, that's the Naval Academy (0.00 / 0)
His father and grandfather were both admirals in the USN.

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You are correct sir. (0.00 / 0)


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"How Did You Get So Many Houses Working For The Government?" (4.00 / 9)
is the question for McCain that I think you're driving at.

And it's a damn good one.  About as good a follow-up as any other I've seen.

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"I married a rich heiress" (0.00 / 0)
Well, Paul, I don't really know if this in itself is something people will object to.
I now think the "out of touch" attack, plus asking if McCain is fit for office, regarding his countless memory problems, are the stronger points.

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And Who Were You Married To When You Started "Dating" the Heiress? (4.00 / 2)
Followup quiestions are a bitch.

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"I'm still good friends with my first wife" (0.00 / 0)
I know it was an ugly story, his first wife's accident and all, but afaik she didn't publicly blame him for his questionable conduct. And then, how many Americans are divorced nowadays? I think a family values attack would have worked well for Romney, but not for Obama who has to win Dem and independent voters. But now, republicans will simply eat crow and still vote for McSame.

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While I don't think Obama should directly use this attack (4.00 / 1)
I would like to see someone use it, and I do think it could be effective because it would damp enthusiasm among the base.

As would a concerted effort to point out that McCain never says "God" or "Jesus" when talking about his faith, preferring to handle it in more abstract terms.

I think these things need to be highlighted.


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Isn't there a group "conservatives for Obama"? (4.00 / 1)
They would have the "right" standing to raise this. And maybe they would get some moderate conservatives to change sides. Couldn't hurt.  

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Missing The Point (4.00 / 1)
(A) That may have worked before.  But a major purpose of connecting things in the wake of a media eruption over this is to make them see everything differently than they saw it before.  The media has dismissed this as a "non-story" in the past, and so most folks don't even know about it.  But with an altered media climate, what was once a shut-down answer can't be counted on anymore.  In fact, just having it be asked causes problems.

(B) It's not the divorce.  It's the adultery. "Moral values", don'tcha know!

(C)  This is not for Obama to push.  That's not the point.  Obama pushes one line, and allies push on other fronts.

What I was suggesting was not for Obama to say, it was a line of questioning for surrogates, and even moreso unaffiliated allies--and, if they were actually doing their jobs, even for reporters.

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Nobody would object to marrying an heiress (0.00 / 0)
Somebody else marrying an heiress and leveraging their fortune to run for president, that's a different issue.

Attacks on wealth in America often run afoul of the belief that anybody can become obscenely wealthy. But who seriously thinks they can marry a rich heiress and get rich that way? Relatively few?

This is an attack that harnesses all the righteous spite of the downtrodden without getting any of the blowback from those who believe their hard work will earn them millions.

Because nobody who isn't a rich heir seriously believes that they will become rich by becoming a rich heiress. It hits the jealousy mark without also hitting the class war mark.

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He worked for Cindy's father (0.00 / 0)
Right after they were married.  Then he quickly went into Congress.  I get the impression he didn't like it much.

And he co-wrote several books.

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Yay! (0.00 / 0)
This is what I was hoping for. Now sustain this and hit it hard for a sustained period of time. I remember Kerry was all over the map and not settling on a theme for more than a week. I hope Obama won't make that mistake.

Let's go get those mo'frickers!


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It's a frickin' manson (4.00 / 5)
As opposed to McCain's seven frickin' mansions.

Yeah I'm not sure this one is going to work for them (4.00 / 13)
"John Edwards says the income gap in our country is too large!"
"But John Edwards has a nice house!"

- STRANGELY EFFECTIVE

"Al Gore says we are putting the environment at risk with greenhouse gas emissions!"
"But Al Gore has a nice house!"

- STRANGELY EFFECTIVE

"Barack Obama says John McCain has seven nice houses!"
"But Barack Obama has one nice house!"

- WAIT, MAYBE NOT SO EFFECTIVE


That's why (4.00 / 5)
the narrative has to build to where they got the houses. Obama got his from being a law professor and writing some big-selling books. Where did McCain's come from, considering that he devoted his life to "public service" and all? If he has too many houses to count maybe it's time to ponder once more what the Keating Five was all about.

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Uh, no! (4.00 / 3)
"the narrative has to build to where they got the houses"
Nooooo, not at sall. The narrative has to focus on McCain being out of touch with ordinary people, and unfit to rememeber such simple facts like how many homes he owns.

But marrying a rich heiress who is able to buy luxury condos isn't wrong in the first place. And we don't want to speak about Rezko, right?


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McCain already spoke about Rezko. (0.00 / 0)
Immediately. And he'll continue to. The Keating Five makes an adequate counter. I'm not talking about a direct statement from Obama. I'm talking about the murmer/gossip memes that the GOP uses so well and the press picks up on. Now that McCain wants to talk about Obama's house, he provides an opportunity to talk about earned money and money whose privileges status McCain has worked so hard to protect by law.

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If they wanted to hit the corruption thing hard (0.00 / 0)
they could draw a long narrative going from the Keating Five to Abramoff.

"John McCain says that he's learned his lesson... "

"but facts are funny things"

I would love to start taunting Republicans with that line of Reagan's.


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How doesn't "marrying a rich heiress" (0.00 / 0)
highlight that he's out of touch with the bulk of Americans.

When is the last you had a chance to marry a rich heiress?


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The neat thing about that angle (0.00 / 0)
Is if it leads McCain to keep implying there's something dishonorable about being a college professor.

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Hate to disagree, I am a college professor (4.00 / 1)
And among many in this country, "professor" is an insult.  That's why they're using it.

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Yeah, I know (4.00 / 1)
But a lot of things are realigning right now, and I keep thinking-- at some point anti-intellectualism, if they keep using it so carelessly, is going to overreach and trigger a backlash (anti-anti-intellectualism?!)

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'Cause Ignorance Has Been Such A Winner In The "War On Terror" (0.00 / 0)
Why not try it on everything?

Oh, wait....

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Yes, right wing media has worked hard to make (0.00 / 0)
"professor" = "ivory tower élitist"

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Make it an economic argument (4.00 / 2)
Talk about how much professors earn. Talk through the process they need to go through to be qualified for that and all the costs it entails. Talk about how long it would take a typical professor to be able to afford to buy a house.

Then talk through how much John McCain's wife spends per month on her credit cards. Talk about how long it would take before that amount would buy a house.

Then ask the audience who the real elitist is. The Mastercard format works here.

I don't expect this to be done by Obama, but I hope somebody does something similar. Academic service shouldn't be an attack, it should be an asset. And I'm not just saying that because I'm trying to get into the least relevant and worst paid section of academia.

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Ridiculous (0.00 / 0)
That spokesguy really counters the attack with ""It's a frickin' mansion."???
It's so many frickin' millionaire homes that McCain can't even memorize their number, you idiot!

Somebody needs to ask him (0.00 / 0)
whether McCain thinks a million-dollar house is a mansion, since having $5 million isn't rich. Ask him whether McCain could buy 7 houses on his Senate pay.

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He just has that little "cabin" in frickin' Sedona (n/t) (0.00 / 0)


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Besides, can't at least one of his homes be considered a "mansion"? (0.00 / 0)
I'll be amazed if they don't have at least one mansion among the bunch.  Hopefully two, frikkin' mansions!

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The obama campaign is trying to push this into a narrative (4.00 / 6)
In response to the coming Ayers ad:


   The fact that John McCain dispatched his paid consultant to launch this despicable ad from a so-called 'independent' committee shows how desperate he is to change the subject from his shocking disconnect with the economic struggles of the American people. He knows that Barack Obama has denounced the detestable crimes that Bill Ayers committed forty years ago.

   Instead of invoking Paris, Britney and obscure sixties radicals, Senator McCain should take the day off at one of his seven homes to consider whether his support for outsourcing, tax breaks for companies who ship jobs overseas and continued spending of ten billion a month in Iraq is really putting 'country first.' To us, it sounds like just more of the same.

Very effective.  It weaves together the these that 1) McCain is out of touch with the American people; 2) McCain supports outsourcing and tax breaks for corporations that send jobs overseas; and 3) Iraq is bleeding us dry; and 4) McCain is more of the same.  Great response.


Ironically, McCain didn't need to answer the question (4.00 / 1)
If he'd just said, "You know, I'll have to talk to Cindy about that, she handles the real estate.  If she hasn't put my name on the title, it might be zero!"

All the little reporters would have had a good chuckle, and we wouldn't be here.

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Off Meds, Off Message? (0.00 / 0)
Could be!

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InBev Angle? (4.00 / 3)
Given that Cindy McCain's family just approved the sale of Budweiser to Belgian brewery InBev, why not push a line of attack that McCain's Millions (catch phrase there)are the spoils of selling out (daresay "fleecing") America?

Now they're shifting it to Cindy... (4.00 / 2)
They're saying this is an attack on Cindy, and have "opened the doors" to Wright, Rezko, and Ayers...

Yeah, right... like those already weren't going to be used.

Of course, they still don't answer the question of "How many homes" does John McCain have?  Is he suggesting zero because Cindy McCain owns them (and I'm not even sure about that... anyone know who's name their in?)  Not even sure that matters.

Also, bringing out the "arugula" again... Wtf is their fascination with arugula?  Can we get some menus of what's being eaten at McCain fundraisers?  I'm sure it's all All-American BEEF and BURGERS and BBQ and stuff... sure.


well, that also opens to the door to (4.00 / 4)
Carol McCain,
Keating 5
the "c" word
what McCain was doing on August 29th, 2006,
etc.

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What WAS he doing on (0.00 / 0)
August 29, 2006?

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let's also not forget the $500 shoes and Cindy's drug use. n/t (0.00 / 0)


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Or the 500,000 dollar a month credit card for that matter...... (0.00 / 0)


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Why is McCain blaming his wife for his economic ignorance? (0.00 / 0)
I think I like this line of response... McCain camp is shifting this over to "These are Cindy's places"... So why not change this to "John McCain would prefer to blame his wife for his own out-of-touch economic ideas?"

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Wouldn't (4.00 / 3)
They're saying this is an attack on Cindy, and have "opened the doors" to Wright, Rezko, and Ayers...

Wouldn't a more analogous retaliation on their part be to start attacking Michelle?

...You know, like they've already been doing for six months straight?


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Cindy's family recipes (0.00 / 0)
The spate of "family recipes" adapted (tho' not much, it seems) from various cookbooks, advertising promotions, and websites have had their spin, so those could be trotted out once again.

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McCain likes lettuce? (0.00 / 0)
Surely not? Surely he dines solely on raw polar bear and the hearts of Vietnamese prison guards?

Alternatively, it might not be relevant what salad vegetables presidential candidates favour, but where would the logic in that be?

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I'll see your arugula and raise you a cous-cous (0.00 / 0)
On Countdown tonight, it was mentioned that at McCain's pallie-pal BBQ that he threw at the ranch for his friends in the media, alongside the burgers he served cous-cous.

Cous-cous.

Sounds kinda foreign/arabic/terroristy to me... I don't know if I trust this guy.

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Can I get $50/hr to pick arugula too? (0.00 / 0)
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McCain and Lieberman (4.00 / 7)
need to get a sense of humor about this!  You reap what you sow McMansion.

Yes! This Is It EXACTLY! (4.00 / 4)
Let it never be said that all I ever do is criticize Obama.  This is truly excellent.

Now, time to really pour on the follow-up.

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Panic On Millionaire Row (4.00 / 5)
The best response from Camp McCain:

"In terms of who's an elitist, I think people have made a judgment that John McCain is not an arugula-eating, pointy headed professor-type based on his life story."

"arugula-eating, pointy headed professor-type" hell no, what we need in a President is a hotheaded, millionaire, old fart!  I'm sorry, did I say hotheaded, I apologize...  


Last time I checked Cindy McCain didn't punt a question.. (4.00 / 2)
about how many homes they own.  Why is John McCain hiding behind his wife?

The only thing that gets me (4.00 / 4)
is that our breakthrough is finally over something this stupid.  

To have someone whose general policy mind is so fundamentally flawed finally, FINALLY get taken to the woodshed over a flubbed answer to a question is simultaneously compeltely astounding and expected.


I completely agree with you (4.00 / 2)

  But I'll take ANYTHING we can get.  

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Yeah (0.00 / 0)
I'm not really complaining so much as I am a bit flabbergasted

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Democratic Ideas Are Popular (0.00 / 0)
The fact that the Republican party is unpopular and that Americans overwhelmingly support the Democratic Party's platform, this little spat shouldn't be all we can get. The fact that the press talking about McCain's houses is a major boon makes it clear how screwed up the entire election system is already.

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like Robert Redford's Quiz Show (0.00 / 0)
It's like Herb Stempel being stumped on Marty.

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I'd imagine the Obama folks (0.00 / 0)
were waiting for McCain to flub on a question regarding his wealth so they could use it (I think Josh at TPM would say "pivot") to launch this kind of salvo.

I hope they were also prepared for McCain to open the floodgates on Resko, Ayers, and Wright.


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A good day at last! (4.00 / 3)

  Today I had a really busy day at work and never had an opportunity to drop by blogworld... so I get home and see this nice dinnertime treat waiting for me.

  Maybe I need to do this more often.

  And yes, I'm pleased that Obama's hitting McCain HARD on this. More, more, more!  

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Obama's going after this... (4.00 / 2)
...because, as the Convention commences, this flap helps the Democratic Party's message as well as his own. Think about it: Most of the people who are going to stand at the podium in the next week are wealthy, but at least they're committed to things like providing much less affluent people with healthcare and figuring out how to offset dependence on oil, among other progressive causes. Perception-wise, that message carries us to the Republican Convention, where we get to watch a bunch of war-mongering, money-grubbing folks who can't keep track of how many houses they own, in the midst of an economy everyone agrees is struggling. It's to early to tell, but we may be witnessing the real tipping point in the election-season's discourse.

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I expect the republican convention to be (0.00 / 0)
the usual "Parade of 10,000 women and minorities," especially with McCain as the nominee.

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Why is Obama so slow to respond back??? (4.00 / 1)
"Yes.  Barack Obama is proud of the comfortable home he owns in suburban Chicago.  He worked his way up from nothing to become a successful as a professor, community organizer, leader and author.  He is proud of his success and hopes millions of Americans have a similar opportunity."

heh (0.00 / 0)
There is no pleasing some, let the man do his fine job.

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Let's not forget Iraq (4.00 / 2)
We are evidently on the brink of signing a Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq that has TIMETABLES for the withdrawal of American forces, ouyt of the cites next spring, and all combat forces out by 2010 or 2011.  Timetables,  set times to get out, no mention of VICTORY before we leave.  This is what we should be pounding.

Actually this is good for Obama, because if he wins the timeschedule will have been negotiated by Bush.  McCain is really left out to dry by this, because it's not contingent on victory.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


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