Presidential Forecast, 8/25: Good Weekend For Obama

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 13:02


Electoral College: Obama 260, McCain 206, Toss-up 72 (270 to win)
National popular vote: Obama 46.4%-44.6% McCain


(Dark Blue (183): Obama +7.6% or more
Lean Blue (77): Obama +2.6%-+7.5%
White / Toss-up (72): Obama +2.5% to McCain +2.5%
Lean Red (55): McCain +2.6%-+7.5%
Dark Red (151): McCain +7.6% or more
)

New polls from Arizona, Colorado (4), Florida, Michigan (2), Mississippi, Nevada (2), New Hampshire, New Mexico (3), North Carolina, Ohio (2), Virginia (2), Utah and Wyoming. These polls are all over the map, but on net they are good for Obama. The evidence for this comes from the swing state chart:

Swing State Overview (270 to win, 269 to tie)
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin Obama Total
Obama Base 255 255
New Mexico 5 45.0% 42.0% +3.0% 260
Colorado 9 45.3% 43.4% +1.9% 269
Virginia 13 45.4% 45.0% +0.4% 282
Ohio 20 43.2% 43.0% +0.2% 302
Montana 3 47.0% 47.0% Even 305
Alaska 3 43.5% 44.0% -0.5% 308
New Hampshire 4 43.7% 44.3% -0.6% 312
Nevada 5 42.3% 44.0% -1.7% 317
North Carolina 15 43.7% 46.0% -2.3% 332
Florida 27 43.8% 46.5% -2.7% 359
North Dakota 3 42.0% 45.0% -3.0% 362
South Dakota 3 40.0% 44.0% -4.0% 365
McCain Base 162 173

Obama rises to 302 electoral votes when the states are pushed, and with the addition of Michigan his "base" states also rise to 255 electoral votes. McCain gains Missouri in his base column and also takes a slight lead in New Hampshire, but otherwise he has slipped back slightly.

At this point, it is too early and these gains are too slight in order to identify a Biden bump. In fact, the first time that it will be possible to identify a bump will be in the middle of the convention, making any Biden bump indistinct from a convention bounce. And then, of course, by the time we can measure a convention bounce, McCain will have made his VP pick and the RNC will be under way. So, basically, we won't be able to identify any bounces for at least the next two weeks. Going to be an intense stretch.

State by state details in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Presidential Forecast, 8/25: Good Weekend For Obama
Solid Obama: 183 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
California 55 54.0% 41.0% +13.0% 1
Connecticut 7 53.0% 40.0% +13.0% 1
Delaware 3 50.0% 41.0% +9.0% 1
D.C. 3 -- -- +80.0% 0
Hawaii 4 61.0% 31.0% +30.0% 1
Illinois 21 55.0% 40.0% +15.0% 1
Maine-AL* 2 53.0% 39.0% +14.0% 2
Maine-01* 1 -- -- +17.2% 0
Maine-02* 1 -- -- +10.8% 0
Maryland 10 53.0% 43.0% +10.0% 1
Massachusetts 12 50.5% 38.0% +12.5% 2
New Jersey 15 51.5% 41.5% +10.0% 2
New York 31 53.0% 37.0% +16.0% 3
Rhode Island 4 55.0% 31.0% +24.0% 1
Vermont 3 63.0% 29.0% +34.0% 1
Washington 11 50.7% 40.3% +10.4% 3

Lean Obama: 77 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Iowa 7 49.5% 43.5% +6.0% 2
Michigan 17 46.0% 40.5% +5.5% 4
Minnesota 10 48.0% 42.7% +5.3% 3
New Mexico 5 45.0% 42.0% +3.0% 3
Oregon 7 50.0% 43.5% +6.5% 2
Pennsylvania 21 47.0% 41.2% +5.8% 5
Wisconsin 10 47.3% 41.3% +6.0% 3

Toss-up: 72 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Alaska 3 43.5% 44.0% -0.5% 2
Colorado 9 45.3% 43.4% +1.9% 7
Montana 3 47.0% 47.0% Even 1
Nevada 5 42.3% 44.0% -1.7% 4
New Hampshire 4 43.7% 44.3% -0.6% 3
North Carolina 15 43.7% 46.0% -2.3% 6
Ohio 20 43.2% 43.0% +0.2% 5
Virginia 13 45.4% 45.0% +0.4% 5

Lean McCain: 55 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Florida 27 43.8% 46.5% -2.7% 8
Indiana 11 43.5% 49.5% -6.0% 2
Missouri 11 42.7% 49.7% -7.0% 3
North Dakota 3 42.0% 45.0% -3.0% 1
South Dakota 3 40.0% 44.0% -4.0% 1

Solid McCain: 151 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Alabama 9 36.0% 52.5% -16.5% 2
Arizona 10 37.3% 49.0% -11.7% 2
Arkansas 6 39.0% 52.0% -13.0% 1
Georgia 15 44.0% 53.0% -9.0% 1
Idaho 4 37.0% 53.0% -16.0% 1
Kansas 6 38.0% 56.5% -18.5% 2
Kentucky 8 38.3% 54.3% -16.0% 3
Louisiana 9 39.0% 57.0% -18.0% 1
Mississippi 6 43.0% 56.0% -13.0% 1
Nebraska-AL** 2 36.0% 55.0% -19.0% 1
Nebraska-01** 1 -- -- -13.0% 0
Nebraska-02** 1 -- -- -8.0% 0
Nebraska-03** 1 -- -- -37.0% 0
Oklahoma 7 24.0% 56.0% -32.0% 1
South Carolina 8 40.0% 53.0% -13.0% 1
Tennessee 11 35.5% 55.5% -20.0% 2
Texas 34 37.0% 46.5% -9.5% 2
Utah 5 23.0% 62.0% -39.0% 1
West Virginia 5 37.0% 45.0% -8.0% 1
Wyoming 3 25.0% 62.0% -37.0% 1

* Maine's four electoral votes are awarded as follows: two for the statewide winner, and one for the winner of each congressional district. ME-01 is about 3.5% more Democratic than the state as a whole, while ME-02 is about 3.5% less Democratic than the state as a whole.

** Nebraska's five electoral votes are awarded as follows: two for the statewide winner, and one for the winner of each congressional district. NE-01 is about 6.0% more Democratic than the state as a whole, NE-02 is about 11.0% more Democratic than the state as a whole, and NE-03 is about 18.0% less Democratic than the state as a whole.

Methodology
The forecast is updated whenever there are enough new polls to warrant an update. The methodology for the forecast is simple and straightforward.

  1. For each state, all polls conducted entirely or partially within the last 30 days are included in the averages. There are two exceptions to this rule.
  2. The first exception are states where no polls were conducted entirely or partially in the last 30 days. Every state has at least one poll.
  3. The second exception comes with polling firms that have conducted more than one poll in a state over the last thirty days. Every polling firm only has one poll per average.
  4. No polling firm discrimination whatsoever. Polls are never excluded because the organization has a bad or partisan reputation.

As we move closer to the election and more data becomes available, the time frames for polls included in the averages will decrease.  


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Thanks. (0.00 / 0)
This has become my go-to poll of polls.

Anecdotally (0.00 / 0)
Colorado feels like an Obama win this year. I know this is too squishy for the metric-minded, but based on the "tone" around town this year, it feels far more friendly to Obama/Biden than it ever did for Kerry/Edwards. I live in the southend of Denver and even here I sense much more excitment about Obama than McCain and this is in Tancredo country.

So I'm glad the CO polls are showing more positive movement for Obama. My hope is the convention solidifies a blue CO. With NM looking blue, we just need to get NV trending back to us and the wins in the west will further prove Dean and Obama to be shrewd political strategists.  

Laugh hard. Its a long ways to the bank.  


The Zogby internet rubbish is really throwing off the NH average (4.00 / 1)
Every other recent poll has Obama at least a point ahead. Close to be sure but it seems he does have a small advantage there.

We're In Good Shape (4.00 / 1)
If you take the toss-ups that are plus Obama, over the last few months Obama has averaged 300 EV per week.  Put that with the fact that Obama has been ahead in 90% of the last 112 polls (tremayne, Obama-McCain Polls) things are looking pretty good.  That with the likelihood that most polls are undercutting the under 30 vote the 300 EV number could very likely be the final outcome.

Great job Chris, thanks.

My question is why is the media selling so much Obama negativity and are there ways to counter it.


You've answered your own question (4.00 / 1)
Obama's clearly ahead, that's why.

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Trust Me (0.00 / 0)
If McCain were ahead, the media would be ramming it down our collective throats...

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I'm Concerned (4.00 / 2)
Despite the week-to-week comparison, I can't help but notice how much weaker Obama looks in the Midwest compared to where he once was, with only Illinois in the "solid" category, Ohio a tossup, and Indiana, Missouri and North Dakota now "lean McCain".

Now, I argued over the weekend that Obama's relative passivity may well have been a strategy to give McCain enough rope to hang himself in the eyes of the Versailles media, and that the questioning of the POW card could signal a turning point.  But I think it's undeniable that the short-term cost of that strategy can be seen in this map.

The fact that Obama still has the edge is reassuring, and if the POW card is really played out, then I'd say that McCain is cooked.  But sticking with purely empirical data at hand, we are fooling ourselves if we're not concerned.

With back-to-back conventions, I think Chris is right that it will be probably be 3-4 weeks before we have a clear sense of where things stand. And I think that it will depend as much on how the media spins it as it will on the conventions themselves.

I also think that water is wet.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


I think the fact that 7 of 8 of the tossups are red states is... (4.00 / 2)
...cause to be optimistic.

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Well, That's Part of Still Having An Edge (4.00 / 1)
But it's not as promising as it was back on 8/18, when 8 of 8 were red states, or on 7/24, when 10 of 10 were.

So, there's still an edge, but it's not what it used to be.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Sure (0.00 / 0)
But the differences are tiny. The gap has closed that is for certain but the issues on the table still favor Obama so I'd still rather be him than McCain.

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You're wrong about water n/t (0.00 / 0)


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This concerns me (0.00 / 0)
This has become my go-to poll of polls.

It sounds like confirmation bias. I happen to think Obama is doing well but my instinct is this will be close. Repubs don't concede anything and haven't even gotten up to the real tricks yet.

I still track this guy's stuff:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Expat American living in the Netherlands and an academic. Decidedly a lefty but with a high level of objectivity. He has adjusted his methodology to correct for the error that called it for kerry in 2004.


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Pre-bump bump (0.00 / 0)
At this point, it is too early and these gains are too slight in order to identify a Biden bump.

Is it possible there could be a bump from the waves of Obama VP speculation at the end of last week?


The Important Thing (0.00 / 0)
The important thing is whether or not Michigan is coming home. We'll have to see what Romney's effect is on this, but my way of thinking is that McCain has to win 3 out of 4 from Colorado, Michigan, Ohio, and Virginia to have a legitimate chance of winning. If Michigan goes off the board, that's bad news for McCain, because he's going to have to thread the needle to win.

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