Forgetting Sarah Palin--It's McCain's CHARACTER, Stupid!

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 12:35


John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate can only be successful if the Democrats mistakenly focus on her, rather than using her selection to highlight what it says about John McCain.  We need to look carefully at her, of course--something McCain apparently didn't do--but we need to do so as a reflecting mirror in which to study McCain's deeply flawed character.

McCain's selection of Palin is widely seen as a gamble that just might pay off.  Not if the Obama campaign handles it properly, though. If they do, it has zero chance of success.

One of the most-cited problems with the choice is that it undermines the attack on Obama's lack of experience.  But in reality it doea far more than that: it reveals McCain as utterly untrustworthy.  As I wrote in a comment yesterday:

It Doesn't Just Render The "Experience" Attack Useless

It clearly demonstrates McCain's entire line of attack on Obama for the last two months was entirely insincere.  He didn't mean a thing he said.

And if he didn't believe any of that, then why should we believe anything he says???

This is the angle I would take: John McCain, you can't believe anything he says.

Integrity was supposed to be one of McCain's signature qualities.  No matter how many times he flip-flopped, no matter how much he pandered, the press always made excuses for him, based on the supposition of his unshakable integrity.

But this flip-flop is just to big to disappear, if properly attacked. What's more, it's not just McCain's integrity that's been destroyed by this choice.  His judgment, temperament, and management style are all similarly discredited.  After this, there's simply no there there, so far as McCain's character is concerned.

The point here is simple: don't get distracted by Palin's shortcomings.  What's important about them is what they say about McCain.

Paul Rosenberg :: Forgetting Sarah Palin--It's McCain's CHARACTER, Stupid!
Integrity

McCain's attacks on Obama's experience have gone on throughout the summer, but escalated dramatically just as Obama was demonstrating how hollow they were, by taking a trip to the Middle East and Europe, and conducting himself like a world leader would, highlighted by the fact that Iraq's President now embraced Obama's timetable for withdrawal of US troops, over McCain's vision of an indefinite occupation.  Furthermore, his outdoor speech in Berlin before a massive crowd showed his clear potential to restore American's lost stature, moral authority and soft power, which the Bush Administration has virtually destroyed.

In true Orwellian fashion, Obama's clear demonstration of how vaccuous McCain's attacks were was countered by a ludicrously over-the-top on Obama's supposed "celebrity", which produced a dramatic tightening of the race.  Of course there were long-standing racist undertones also involved in this attack, as well as more general rightwing populist appeals to cultural identity.  But "lack of experience" was the overt banner beneath which all these more unsavory innuendos were marshaled.  Obama's supposed "lack of experience" was the fig-leaf of legitimacy for out-and-out racism and character assassination.  Without it, McCain had nothing to say--at least, nothing he could say without losing the support of independents and Democrats who still considered him a man of integrity, whose support was vital to him, if he was to win.  So, the more McCain lied, the more important his "integrity" became.

But, of course, the real lynch-pin of these attacks was their bullying nature.  If Obama would not stand up and defend himself against these attacks, he would be perceived as weak--like so many Democrats before him, but to do so effectively, he would have to confront a whole galaxy of rightwing assumptions, including the entirety of McCain's mystique. And somehow manage it without coming off as an "angry black man" or appearing to contradict his own pledge of civility and respect for his opponents.

This, of course, is precisely what Obama accomplished at the convention, with the assistance of the rest of the Democratic Party.  Hence, the Palin announcement, as an act of desperation by McCain.  But the Palin announcement undermines everything that went before it.  It reveals two months of John McCain building his entire campaign on a lie.  Clearly, McCain never considered lack of experience a crucial factor in presidential politics.  If he did, he could have picked any number of Republican women as his running mate--Kay Bailey Hutcheson, Olympia Snowe, Christine Todd Whitman, and Condoleeza Rice, just for starters.

There is simply no way around it:  McCain's campaign against Obama's lack of experience had no more integrity to it than Bush's campaign against Iraq as somehow responsible for 9/11.   You simply cannot believe anything the man says.

Judgment

The Palin choice also undermines any claims about McCain's judgment.  There were plenty of reasons to doubt McCain's judgment already, not least his reckless inflammation--if not instigation--of the Russian/Georgian confrontation.  But the media has excused him over and over and over again every time his lack of judgment becomes evident.

Still, this time could be different, because it's so egregious and so easy to grasp.  Millions of Americans have direct experience with hiring or promoting people--or else witnessing first-hand when its done properly or not.  The scale of responsibility is surely quite different--but the principles are the same, and the enhanced responsibility is precisely the point that McCain's judgement seems to have totally ignored.  It's not just that Palin lacks experience, thus undermining the past two months of his campaign, and destroying his credibility.  She also brings a collection of scandals and questionable conduct.

While the most serious charges--abuse of office to settle a personal, familial score--have yet to be proved, it is already clear that she's been less than truthful and forthcoming.  But that's not even what's most important, so far as McCain's judgment is concerned.  If you're going to select a virtual unknown, then they had better be someone without even the appearance of scandal or controversy.  Sarah Palin flunks this standard spectacularly.  And hence, McCain's judgment fails spectacularly as well.

There are, at minimum, four different areas of concern, any one of which ought to have disqualified Palin, if McCain's judgment had been sound.

(1) Troopergate.  Palin is under investigation by the state legislature for abusing the power of her office. ABC News explains:

Palin Could Be Deposed in Probe
Former State Official Claims He Was Pressured to Fire Gov.'s Former Brother-in-Law
By MARCUS BARAM

Aug. 29, 2008 --

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, John McCain's surprise vice-presidential pick, is the subject of a legislative probe into claims that she abused her office by trying to get her former brother-in-law fired from his job as an Alaska state trooper.  

Palin is likely to be deposed soon in the case, according to State Sen. Hollis French, who leads the state Senate's Legislative Counsel Committee.

French's committee unanimously authorized an investigation into the dismissal of the state's public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, who claims he balked at pressure to remove Trooper Mike Wooten, who had an acrimonious divorce from Palin's sister.

The ethics complaint is here (PDF).  Talking Points Memo has a timeline here, and a good overview of the story, with links, here.  

The headline of the last story is quite telling, as a way of further underscoring McCain's questionable judgement in selecting Palin: "Palin Probe Could Mean Election-Eve Trouble for McCain".  It begins thus:

It looks like John McCain's new running mate, Sarah Palin, could be hit with some decidedly negative PR at the worst possible time. The Alaska legislature's investigation of whether Governor Palin improperly fired a state employee is scheduled to wrap up and release its findings just days before the November election.

The firing is at the center of a scandal that has largely remained confined to the Alaska press, but is now likely to become a national story in the wake of Palin's selection -- one that could conceivably have an impact on the presidential race.

To be fair to Palin, she alleges that her brother-in-law is violent and unstable, and its quite possible that he shouldn't be a law enforcement officer.  This is generally a problem that Republicans are incapable of even seeing.  But that does not excuse or explain the way she has tried to deal with this, nor does it excuse her false and misleading claims as the story has come to light.  In a commentary in the Anchorage Daily News, "Palin can't seem to admit she erred", local talk show host Dan Fagan concludes:

But there is something in Sarah Palin's personality that prohibits her from saying, "I screwed up." She seems to obsess on something and will do almost anything to get her way.

The sad part of it is if she would at any point just come clean, Alaskans would forgive her. They love her.

But nobody likes someone who cannot admit when they are wrong.

Sarah Palin is a classic example of that.

Something in her "personality that prohibits her from saying, 'I screwed up.'"  Well, that sure is a refreshing change of pace from Bush/Cheney, now isn't it?

Once again, the point of all this is not to demonize Palin.  It's simply to point out that she's embroiled in a controversy that won't be resolved until the eve of the election, and she's already shown that she's not handling it well.  If you're going to pick a virtual unkown to be your VP, then good judgment demands that they be free of any such controversies.  Palin may very well put this behind her.  But choosing her in the midst of such a controversy shows very poor judgment on McCain's part.

(2) Palin's record as mayor of Wasilla. It's not just that Palin was, until 18 months ago, the mayor of a small town.  She also apparently left considerable problems in her wake, necessitating severe budget cuts.  DKos diarist xgz lays out a harsh indictment in "Sarah Palin and Wasilla Sports Complex land deal", which begins:

Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla from 1996 to 2002. Her record during that time can tell us a lot about her. The biggest deal during her tenure is perhaps the construction of the sports complex that was built on someone else's land. She had to raise sales taxes to pay for it. The whole episode of incompetence, arrogance, and lack of respect for the law is exactly the style of governance that we've seen from Bush and co in the past seven years.

The $15 million multi-use indoor ice arena was supposed to be her legacy as the mayor. This was a very big deal for a city that had a budget of $3.9 million in 96 (increased to $5.8 million in 2002). Although the city subsidy has gone down from the initial $600k per year to about $125k per year, the sports complex still does not break even.

The biggest problem, however, was the process of how the land was acquired. The whole thing was handled with exceptional incompetence and arrogance, ultimately costing the city an extra $1.7 million in settlement and court cost for a piece of land that would have costed only $125k if they had handled it right from the beginning in 1998.

Whether xgz's assessment is accurate, I can't say.  The supporting links seem to indicate that a more ambiguous conclusion might be justified.  But one thing is clear: this was not a resounding success, and as mayor, Palin bears some responsibility.  After all, it was her role as mayor that was her stepping-stone to becoming governor of Alaska.   At the very least, this is the sort of background problem that you want to carefully examine in the vetting of a candidate.  But McCain seems to have done nothing of the sort.  (See the section "Management Style", below.)

(3) Flip-flopping on the "Bridge To Nowhere".  Part of Palin's reputation as a reformer is the claim that she opposed Senator Stevens' pork-barrel "Bridge To Nowhere."  Only TRN is reporting, not so much:

Did Palin Really Fight The "Bridge To Nowhere"?

Republicans have been heavily touting Sarah Palin's reformist credentials, with her supposed opposition to Alaska's "Bridge to Nowhere" as Exhibit A. But how hard did she really fight the project? Not very, it seems. Here's what she told the Anchorage Daily News on October 22, 2006, during the race for the governor's seat (via Nexis):

5. Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?

Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now--while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.

So she was very much for the bridge and insisted that Alaska had to act quickly--the party of Ted Stevens and Don Young might soon lose its majority, after all. By that point, the project was endangered for reasons that had nothing to do with Palin--the bridge had become a national laughingstock, Congress had stripped away the offending earmark, shifting the money back to the state's general fund, and future federal support seemed unlikely. True, after Palin was sworn into office that fall, her first budget didn't allocate any money for the bridge. But when the Daily News asked on December 16, 2006, if she now opposed the project, Palin demurred and said she was just trying to figure out where the bridge fit on the state's list of transportation priorities, given the lack of support from Congress. Finally, on September 19, 2007, she decided to redirect funds away from the project altogether with this sorry-sounding statement:

"Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398 million bridge is not the answer," said Governor Palin. "Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island," Governor Palin added. "Much of the public's attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened."

Maybe I've missed something, but it sure lookslike she was fine with the bridge in principle, never had a problem with the earmarks, bristled at all the mockery, and only gave up on the project when it was clear that federal support wasn't forthcoming.

If TNR can come up with that in less than a day, shouldn't a man of sound judgment have known that Palin's "reformer" image was problematic, at best?  And if he did know, but didn't care, how sound is his judgment then?

(4) Palin's Buchananite Past.  Sarah Palin is an appeal to the conservative base.  But she is, apparently, so extreme that she's not even a part of the Republican base, despite holding office as a Republican.  The Nation reports:

Sarah Palin, Buchananite
posted by Christopher Hayes on 08/29/2008 @ 2:38pm

Very quickly. Remember when Pat Buchanan ran a number of hard-right, fringe campaigns for president in the late 1980s, 1990s and 2000? Well, guess who was supporting him:

From an AP report in 1999:

    "Pat Buchanan brought his conservative message of a smaller government and an America First foreign policy to Fairbanks and Wasilla on Friday as he continued a campaign swing through Alaska. Buchanan's strong message championing states rights resonated with the roughly 85 people gathered for an Interior Republican luncheon in Fairbanks. ... Among those sporting Buchanan buttons were Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin and state Sen. Jerry Ward, R-Anchorage."

In fact, a very committed Buchananite Buchanan himself told me he was thrilled by the choice, saying as soon as I mentioned it: "It's great for the base. I'm pretty sure she's a Buchananite!"

People seem to be missing the fact that this is a classic, Rovian appease-the-base choice.

UPDATE: James Antle at the American Spectator rightly points out that while Buchanan considered a 1988 run for the presidency he didn't pursue it. My bad.

But Hayes seems to be missing the point that in 1999, Buchanan wasn't a candidate of the GOP base--he was trying to raid the base, running for the Reform Party nomination--which he eventually got.  So Palin was out there beyond the fringe with him.  Can you imagine if Obama had nominated an obscure governor who supported Ralph Nader in 1999?  Can you imagine the questioning of his judgment that would lead to?

These are just four major concerns that have surfaced in the first day that Palin's selection was announced.  It seems undeniable that McCain's judgement in selecting her as his running mate was deeply flawed, at best.

Temperament

But why was McCain's judgment flawed?  The answer, quite simply, is his temperament.  I presented so much background in the previous section, that I think it's best to keep this one short and sweet.  Everyone knows that McCain is a hothead who'd be downright dangerous with his finger on the nuclear trigger.   His early Navy history as an insubordinate screw-up is hardly the profile one wants for the highest office in the land.  And Palin's selection fits perfectly into this pattern--a "screw you, I'm doing it my way" response when the going gets tough, that is long on bravado, and extremely short on common sense.

Management Style

As noted in my quick hit last night "McCain Barely Knew Palin", The Politico reports:

John McCain on Friday announced a running mate whom he met only six months ago and with whom he spoke just once on the phone about the position before offering it in person earlier this week.

McCain's first encounter with Sarah Palin came at a Washington meeting of the National Governors Association in February, according to a campaign-provided reconstruction of how the little-known Alaska governor was thrust into the national spotlight. The two discussed the position by phone on Sunday before McCain invited Palin and her husband to Arizona to formally make the offer. McCain, joined by his wife, Cindy, did just that Thursday morning at their home near Sedona, Ariz.

This dovetails with my surmise about McCain's temperament, and explains why McCain's vetting process didn't eliminate Palin by carefully looking at her potential liabilities, including each of the four areas covered above.  In fact, one might even argue that McCain's shot-from-the-hip management style undercuts my argument about his bad judgment:  he didn't ignore all those problems, one might argue, he didn't even know about them.

That's a great argument, don't you think?

Conclusion

I'd like to conclude by quoting another comment I wrote yesterday , anticipating the argument as I've fleshed it out here:

I Agree, But...

I think it's pretty obvious that the M$M is in rapid decay mode. What's happening with AP is good indicator of this.  They  are just diseased enough that they could spin this in an infinite number of different directions, and we really can't predict with any kind of certainty which way it will be.

What we do know is that new media--blogs, online video, etc.--has a fairly decent shot at having an impact here, and so the reality of Palin could well come out--at least enough to damage her fatally, which is probably only about 20-30%, tops.

But perhaps the soundest strategy is not to focus on Palin, but to focus on McCain.  After all, he's just spent a couple of months insisting that Obama's lack of experience disqualified him.  Now he's telling us, "not so much."  This clearly shows that McCain's word means nothing, that he'll just say anything to get elected, and therefore nothing he says can be trusted.  He's just Nixoned himself.

This is the message to pound home for the next week, along with the secondary message, "Well, is Palin actually any good?  Does she have any sort of record at all?  Oh, my!  Look at this!  Nearly bankrupted the city where she was mayor!  That doesn't sound too good..." etc., etc., etc.

In short, don't lead with any of Palin's baggage, focus on McCain instead, but don't forget Palin's baggage, either.   There is sooo much of it that it would be a big mistake to try and deliver it all at once.

One way or another, after the way they pulled of the convention last week, I've got a lot more confidence that the Obama campaign will find a way to deal with Polin.  It probably won't be the way that I suggest here, but (a) that shouldn't stop others from pushing this approach, and (b) that really doesn't matter in the long run, as long as they deal with her effectively.

 


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lack of vetting shows McCain is reckless (4.00 / 9)
I think the lack of vetting Palin received also says a lot about McCain's character.  At best he met her only twice before choosing her.  She may not have submitted to a formal vetting process.  The McCain campaign reportedly sent no one up to Alaska to talk to people in her home state before making the choice (as reported by Alaska Daily News).

What does this say about his character that he would be so reckless in choosing the person who might have to step in at any time and become President and Commander-in-Chief?  Is he really putting the best interests of America first?  Would he similarly gamble with America's future if he were elected President?


Absolutely--This Goes Back To Wes Clark's Point (4.00 / 5)
McCain has always been a reckless, shoot-from-the-hip kind of guy, and the Navy recognized this (hey, he lost five planes!), which is why he was not promoted, why he never held a position where his recklessness could get tooooo many people killed.   They want to weed these sorts of people out, not put them in charge of strategic operations.

The GOP, however, is not nearly as smart as the US Navy.  Let's hope the American people are.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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McCain is a compulsive, high-stakes gambler (4.00 / 1)
Palin is more evidence of that.  Is this someone we want to trust with the lives of our soldiers?

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i think this is only convincing to us (0.00 / 0)
If the last 8 years has proven anything, I think its that America loves brash, shoot from the hip, leadership. America loves gambling and risk and sticking its neck it out - its America's greatest trait and weakness. It gives us Silcon Vally and Moon Shots and it also gives us stupid wars and idiots like Bush.

I don't think the "McCain is reckless" attack will ever stick. Move effective is that he's old and losing it. When he acts reckless I think Americans actually just like him more.

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare


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Love Brash Leadership? (4.00 / 2)
If the last 8 years has proven anything, I think its that America loves brash, shoot from the hip, leadership. America loves gambling and risk and sticking its neck it out - its America's greatest trait and weakness.
[snip]

I don't think the "McCain is reckless" attack will ever stick. More effective is that he's old and losing it. When he acts reckless I think Americans actually just like him more.

If Americans "love brash, shoot from the hip, leadership" then how come Bush has an approval rating of 28% and Cheney of 19%?


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cough 2004 cough (0.00 / 0)


Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare

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That's quite a reach (4.00 / 2)
 
cough 2004 cough

That comment is supposed to null and void those dismal approval ratings of today, not to mention the utter slaughter of the Republican party in 2006?  


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McCain's Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran song should have sank him (0.00 / 0)
but it didn't. Americans like it. Its the incompetence and corruption pissing Americans off. Otherwise McCain wouldn't be at ~45+% nationally and Obama would be at 60%. The policy differences between the two isn't rocket science, but Americans are definitely considering going back to the trough for more.

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare

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The Media Gave Him A Pass On This (4.00 / 3)
Like they alsways do.

Most of the American people don't even know about it.  It's a tempting argument to make, but the pieces just don't fit together.

If a Democrat pulls something like that, it plays in heavy rotation for 24/48 hours, and he's seen as all the better for it, then you have some supporting evidence.  Not now.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I think you underestimate American blood lust. (0.00 / 0)
and their personality preferences. GOP testosterone attacks on Democrats are wildly successful with Americans.  

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare

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let me add (0.00 / 0)
I think Americans dont like stupidity, and what Bush's numbers show is that they have come to see him as a complete idiot. But I believe they still very much like his personality type. The disapproval is less about his temperament and policies and more about his inability to make them work right. Americans still want to blow shit up.

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare

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Everybody Likes To Blow Shit Up (4.00 / 1)
It's the inner 3-year old.

But mostly folks know the difference between fantasy (blockbuster action movies) and reality (Vietnam, Iraq), which is why they had to lie so hard in so many ways about Iraq.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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turning fantasy into reality (4.00 / 1)
I have the feeling that Americans really like seeing their hollywood fantasies manifest. I was dumb struck watching tv testimonials from 2001 to ~2006 of Americans in small po-dunk towns talk about 9/11 and fear of being attacked. I got the impression that they deeply wanted to participate in the drama of 9/11 and that the war was a way to extend that fantasy.

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare

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Wrong word? (4.00 / 3)
You may have a point, but I think it's more about the word than the concept. "Reckless" has a certain romantic "devil-may-care" bravado attached to it. Scratch "reckless", insert "foolhardy".

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Which is even more stunning .. (0.00 / 0)
when you think about it ... what it means is that McCain was so bad .. his family name(both his father and grandfather were Admirals .. which is the same as an Army general) could not overcome the problems .. he should have had a long distinguished career in the Navy on hos family name alone .. but he screwed that up

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That may be the punchline right there: (4.00 / 1)
"He chose Sarah Palin for VP? Well what do you expect from a man who lost five airplanes."

Both stories cut right to the heart of his impulse control issues.

Montani semper liberi


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Heh... (4.00 / 1)
I just had this vision of McCain with "Poor Impulse Control" tattooed on his forehead, like Raven in Snowcrash... but it wouldn't make him anywhere near as cool a villain as Raven was.

"A fantasy is not even a wish, much less an act.  There is no such thing as a culpable or shameful fantasy."  -----Lady Sally McGee

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Wouldn't that make him... (0.00 / 0)
Wouldn't that actually make McCain a shoot-yourself-in-the-hip kind of guy?

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Reckless and irresponsible. (4.00 / 3)

He's 72 years old, and his VP should be ready to go yesterday.  He picked someone with shallow experience and credentials, someone he barely knows.

He did his country a disservice.  I find it dishonorable and unpatriotic.



John McCain thinks we haven't spent enough time in Iraq

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Complete and total agreemant. (4.00 / 4)
And it is not surprising as this election is about "judgment and capacity".  McCain has neither. Obama / Biden are examples, personally and organizationally, examples of both.

The Democrats have judgment and capability, and the entire last 8 years most obviously, and for a generation certainly the Republicans have shown again and again they do not. They do not because they are corrupted by the need to serve greed. Lobbyists, corporate power, with corporate science for example exemplified by global warming denial, with Iraq with Katrina, with Palin -- the Republicans show that can't get the job done because they have other masters to serve, other agendas to meet, and its' certainly not Country First.

Change
"We must break up the banks and never again let them get so big that they distort our politics and take down the economy.


when your opponent (4.00 / 1)
is drowning on their own keep quiet and definitely don't throw them a life preserver, this will play out and most likely show how unstable mccain is and would be as pres, xmas comes early this year.

Agree 100% (4.00 / 6)
I've often disagreed with Paul, but I'm with him completely on this great post.

Honestly, this choice has opened up so many problems for McCain and possible attacks against HIM - as opposed to her - that it's difficult to know where to start.  I think the most damaging part may well be just about process, i.e., the reports that they only spoke once or twice before he picked her.

At this point, though, I hope the Obama campaign pauses for a bit and shows some patience in addressing anything related to Palin. She has already become fodder for the late night comics - see Maher's great monologue - and there is no shortage of negative press going on right now.  Let it all play out for a few days before going proactive, I say.


you can ignore her ... (2.67 / 3)
just hammer McCain on this .. look at the wingnutters who are pissed .. like Ponnuru .. they see the writing on the wall

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Agree Completely (4.00 / 5)
The campaign should not be out in front on this.  Less is more.  Let the press actually feel like it's reporting something!

Just make sure that when you do comment--even, or especially on background--you keep the focus on McCain, not Palin.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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agree deeply but would tweek it a bit (4.00 / 1)
The most effective attacks on candidates are ones which re-enforce a belief about them. So a 'belief' about Hillary was she will say anything to get elected, that she didn't really have an 'true' positions on issues. Her inability to say if she would support or oppose the Eliot Spitzer plan to give illegals drivers licenses gave a real world example of that belief, and she paid dearly for that comment.

So what nascent negative beliefs are out there that could be tapped for this? You highlight judgement. But I don't think the judgement one is a strong one, because this is actually a good pick. Its a smart strategic pick, its a woman which is inherently exciting, and she is a reformer. Her lack of experience only works if you can tap that, and you can't, because on the flip side you're calling McCain cynical for having ever made 'experience' an issue in the first place.

An idea that comes to mind for me, that I think is building steam, is that the new McCain is not like the old McCain. I find that a very powerful attack. Its a good attack on several fronts. It unhinges him from being able to rely on his Vietnam experience and his pre-Bush year voting record. It attaches him to Bush. And it lets people who have been friends with him (hillary, biden, et al) attack him without attacking him. It is quite brilliant. And I think Palin can re-enforce that.

New McCain not like the old McCain
McCain is pandering to the GOP base with Palin (thats not the old McCain both in terms of pandering to the party and on fundamentalist issues like abortion). Palin doesn't match McCain's criteria for experience (old McCain wouldn't give up a core belief like this).

Mix those in with the stuff on tax cuts in war time and voting with Bush.

-my $.02

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare


note (4.00 / 1)
on experience note I'm using it slightly differently. I propose not to attack McCain for picking someone inexperienced, but rather to attack him for being inconsistent about the importance of experience. make him commit to one position or the other: is it about the core values of the person or is it about experience? what say you now McCain?

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare

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Sen. McCain vs. Candidate McCain (4.00 / 2)
Was it Kerry who used the Senator McCain vs. Candidate McCain line in his speech last week?  I know someone did.  I think that approach is pretty effective, since it plays off of the distrust people have for politicians, and opens up the door to highlight all of McCain's recent flip-flops.

I also think that going after McCain's integrity this way will get him riled up, since he loves to think of himself as an honest, maverick reformer/hero.  This opens the door to him showing more of his dark side because he can't help himself.  This, in turn, has the potential to give Americans more of a chance to see that side of him and make their own judgments.

I think your earlier point about many Americans liking the Bush/McCain "shoot from the hip" persona has a lot of truth in it.  But I suspect the percentage of citizens has shrunk that are willing to blindly accept and follow this persona in the wake of the "Mission Accomplished" and other memorable moments (e.g., Katrina) in which the failures of the Bush persona and policies have been so painfully clear.

My sense is that Obama's main message should be an encapsulation of his convention speech, with one central pillar being economic/energy/healthcare policy and the second being his challenge to McCain that if he wants to make the campaign about "who has the judgment and temperament to be commander in chief" Obama welcomes that debate.

If McCain doesn't push that second point himself, and can no longer attack Obama on the experience issue (since his Palin pick makes him VERY vulnerable to devastating counterattack on that issue), then Obama can ride the wave of Democratic advantage on economic and other non-defense issues, including using the Sen. McCain vs. Candidate McCain line of attack.  If McCain does push the CIC issue, Palin gives Obama and his supporters plenty of room to highlight the points Paul and others are making.

The more I think and read about it, I think the Palin pick was a fairly desperate move whose primary goal was to shore up the wingnut/fundie base, in the hopes it would help turnout and mobilize the ground game that helped Bush so much.  A second but fuzzier goal might have been to capture some PUMAs and other women, which I think will be very hard to execute.  A third motive may simply have been to change the dynamics and momentum after a powerhouse Dem convention--culminating in what I consider a great Obama speech--that united and mobilized the party and reached a record number of viewers, presumably including many undecideds.

But I think the poor execution of the McCain camp and the flaws in their candidate--including the downsides of the Palin pick that Paul and others have highlighted--will yield big negatives from the Palin pick, and that these will sink the McCain campaign even though it is able to shore up motivation of the rightwing base.

That base is not Obama's target.  If to solidify it McCain has to cede the experience issue, he's got nothing left except that base.  And if one of Biden's main jobs is to highlight the huge differences between Sen. McCain and Candidate McCain, while also helping Obama build more bridges to white working class voters (with strong backup from the Clintons), I think a landslide is quite possible...a landslide that leaves the Republicans only with the hardest core wingnuts, fundies and pro-corporatists.  

Increasingly I see Palin as an insurance policy for McCain with the rightwing base, and also for Obama in terms of the experience issue and the hypocrisy and poor judgment of "Candidate McCain."  Since McCain's already in desperate straits, he needs to use his policy.  It seems possible that Obama won't have to use his much, but will be better protected from smear attacks because it exists.  And I think this turn of events fits Obama's overall strategy, which is to be as positive as possible, but to hit back effectively when necessary.


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Very Good Analysis (4.00 / 1)
Lot's of points, and I pretty much agree with all of them.

The one thing I would add is that McCain is hoping to rope the media back into line backing him up.  He wants to draw Obama into a clumsy response that the knee-jerk crowd will then pounce on him for.

But I think we've clearly seen with the concention and Obama's first response ad (see quick hits), this is pretty much not going to happen.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Add to the temperament. (4.00 / 5)
It's not just his anger problem.  What has astounded me has been his total lack of seriousness approaching the job.  The VPs primary job is to be ready, not from merely Day 1 but Second 1, to step in if the President is incapacitated.  When that happens it is a traumatic event.  It requires a person capable of firmly grabbing hold of the reins and immediately bringing confidence and calm to the Nation, the Financial Markets, and the World.  McCain's choice is not just a matter of putting Politics first over the good of the country; it also displays a complete lack of regard for the seriousness of the decision.

We saw this months ago in a far less important matter but it was perhaps a preview or display of this disregard for the heft of the position he seeks:  When he sung Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran and then told people to lighten up, it's just a joke.  Personally, I never got the punchline to that joke, but a President of all people does not make bombing a country a joke.  He is not auditioning for Guest Host of SNL, he's auditioning for the most powerful position in the World.  

This Bushian frat-boy mentality is not just poor judgement.  I think it goes to the heart of his temperament - an inability to deal with adult matters in a contemplative, serious manner is deflected by fits of anger, snap, impulsive decisions, and inappropriate humor.  He is quite literally not fit for the job.  


how to raise the ready on day 1 issue (4.00 / 1)
yesterday I was thinking how do Dems open this issue with Palin, and my view was it has to happen naturally in the Debates and Biden needs to avoid attacking and just seem MORE ready.

However there is another opportunity, and that is to put the question to McCain directly. Like Paul's point the idea is to bring focus to McCain again. Hopefully can get some journalists to ask things like, "do you think Palin can take on Iran?", "Can Palin be tough on terror?", "How do you see Palin standing up to Russia?", and follow up to any of these, "What in her experience gave you that confidence?"

The trick is getting someone to ask him about her. But grilling him on his decision making process is a sure fire winner. again IMHO

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare


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You're 100% Right (0.00 / 0)
I had originally planned to write a longer section on temperament, but I was already running so long, and so late that I cut it short.  You've pretty much said what needed to be added to that section--so thanks!

It's not just about being angry, it's about being hopelessly immature and unserious.  Arrested development.

In a very real sense, someone stuck where McCain is developmentally doesn't have any character at all.  Character is what you get when you mature to the point of being able to integrate, balance, and restrain the sorts of reckless impulses that seem to control him, rather than being controlled.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I agree with you and DD2 on the temperament issue, (4.00 / 2)
but I think this realization is something that voters need to experience for themselves, and in a context where that realization is decisive in terms of their vote.  I think Obama got it right in his speech, challenging McCain to raise the "CIC readiness" issue, and I believe McCain's ability to do so is now more constrained by the Palin pick.

This puts him at risk of the CIC-readiness debate being drawn more into the realm of judgment and temperament, where he has potentially fatal weaknesses.

As is already happening, the netroots needs to keep fleshing out the "McCain is immature, unstable, unserious, unreliable and even dangerous" narrative (with the kind of detail and breadth about McCain and Palin that's been compiled), and keep pushing it out in front of the M$M.  At the same time, Biden, the Clintons, Kerry, Gore, etc. need to be highlighting the differences between the (mythological) Sen. McCain and Candidate McCain, while Obama mainly takes the high road in terms of laying out a positive vision (of course with contrasts to Bush/McCain policies), while retaining the "if you wanna rumble, I'm ready" posture of his convention speech.  At the same time, it seems reasonable to assume that the M$M will follow its normal course of going ga-ga over Palin then burning her alive in its overheated, cynical spotlight.

In this scenario I'd be surprised if McCain hasn't blown his top and revealed his immaturity and dangerous tendencies at least a few times by the end of the last debate.  My hope is that the debates themselves will feature some such moments, with McCain's dangerous impulses contrasted sharply with Obama's smart, steady and thoughtful demeanor.  And that these and other such moments are vivid and "sound-bitey" enough for the M$M to pick them up and embrace the "Real McCain" narrative being developed within the netroots.

If it plays out this way, the netroots will have played a key role in turning a potentially tight election in which media-enabled deception is largely successful into a truth-filled landslide in which all segments of an expanding Democratic coalition play their role effectively and with mutual respect.  That's part of the theme I picked up from the convention, and I hope it continues.  I also got the sense that Obama is growing into his role as leader of that coalition, just as the netroots is growing into its role as a large and powerful democratic (both small and capital "d")force that pushes and pulls Washington leaders in progressive directions.


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I LIke Your Color Commentary... (0.00 / 0)
From your mouth to God's ear, as they say in the trade.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Horse Race (4.00 / 4)
Also along the same lines we should not get to caught up in the horse race element of this the way that David Sirota's article did yesterday. The story is not is this a good or bad pick politically. The story this is plain and simply a bad pick.

An important point (4.00 / 5)
It clearly demonstrates McCain's entire line of attack on Obama for the last two months was entirely insincere.

The "inexperienced" argument was always secondary to--or a cover for--the he's not "one of us" argument. It seems clear that McCain learned what Hillary learned, that attacking Obama's experience was much less effective than depicting him as a cultural elitist (i.e. black, un-American, etc.) The choice of Palin means that we're about see a brutal assault on Obama's otherness. McCain is betting that Palin, her hard-right views notwithstanding, is someone most Americans can relate to. Unlike you know who (in their eyes.) To pick Romney would have to give up the "he's not one of us" argument, which we now know is McCain choice of attack.


Yes, But It's More Complicated (4.00 / 3)
As I tried to indicate.

(A) The "inexperienced" argument provides cover for the "not one of us" argument, which can't be made nakedly by the campaign for fear of coming off as racist, much less divisive, and, of course, totally a continuation of Bush/Cheney.  Without the "inexperienced" argument, they have to attach the "not one of us" argument to something else, instead.

(B) By pointing out that the "inexperienced" argument was never sincere, it opens the door to the realization that the "not one of us" argument was the real argument all along.  The most aggressive follow-up would be to go there directly and accuse McCain of racist tactics.  But this would also mean confronting the most intense defense mechanisms of denial and projection.

Questioning his integrity is actually less of a killer instinct response, but it's more difficult to defend against, because the only effective way to do so is what you've just said--"Oh, we weren't really questioning his lack of experience, we were just trying to paint him as 'not one of us," someone who couldn't be trusted."

Yeah, they're really going to say that out loud!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Onto Wright and Ayers (4.00 / 1)
You and David make good points.  It raises in my mind the prospect of McCain's remaining attacks focusing on Rev. Wright and Ayers.  That seems to be a way for McCain to do a Willie Horton on Obama without raising the experience issue.  

Any thoughts on the likelihood of this and how best to counter it in the broader context being discussed here?


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Hard To Say (0.00 / 0)
That would be quite a shift of direction, I think, and the micro-structure of how it happened would be important in influencing how I would answer.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Yep! (4.00 / 2)
If you focus to much on her, then she will engender sympathy (pun intended) and hurt us...

The press is really going after her with glee... that's fantastic!  I guess they are afraid to go after Saint McCain... but, are thrilled to go after this new "celebrity" like they would any other celebrity...

Let them do their job and enforce the preconceived perception that she is a lightweight...

It should also be noted that McCain always promised to put Country first, not politics first, and this pick destroys that argument...  This whole campaign has been a game to him.. filled with nothing but crude jokes...  I guess he views the office of president as nothing but a joke...

But, it important that we retain the frame of her being unqualified and unprepared.  The republicans are going to market her a second first lady... we can't let them succeed in that...

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


You're Right About "Putting Country First" (4.00 / 1)
And this is being picked up on in the press. LA Times, for example:

DENVER -- American voters on Friday began learning about Sarah Palin. But the selection of an obscure Alaska governor as the Republican vice presidential nominee also offers clues about the leadership style of the man who placed her on the ticket.

Though John McCain clearly concluded that Palin could attract female voters and grab his campaign some Barack Obama-style media buzz, he also is taking a risk that in elevating a largely unknown figure, he undermines the central theme of his candidacy that he puts "country first," above political calculations.

I didn't include this, partly because I never really took it seriously.  I always thought it was a transparent joke.  But, of course, that doesn't mean it wasn't powerful for those who bought it.  It's just that if you buy my first argument--that this totally undermines his integrity--then his "country first" claim falls with all the rest.

So, for me it's more effective to do a backdoor takedown.  Others, prefer the front door.  Either is fine by me.  Heck, I'm sort of partial to side doors myself.  Houses that have them have always rate an extra "cool" factor in my book.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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McCain is the issue. (4.00 / 4)
I've been uncomfortable with the focus on Palin instead of McCain, too. The point about Palin is that her selection rips the mask off McCain's focul-group-created "character". My only quibble is that lack of experience isn't the only problem with McCain's decision. Palin is a rightwing extremist nutcase. She reveals that McCain's "moderation" was just manipulative bullshit all along. Here's a comment I wrote over at Booman's place in response to a diary about how the Palin pick is more of the same. When I saw your diary I thought it fit right in:

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I have to disagree. Palin, and what this choice says about McCain, is not more of the same. Her selection marks a shift as far right as you can get.

McCain pretended to be concerned with global warming, yet picked  a successor who thinks global warming is a lie.

He pretended to care about women, yet picked a successor who wants the police to force a 14-year-old girl to deliver what grew in her after her daddy raped her.

He pretended to care about the environment, yet picked a successor who want to declare open season on polar bears and the rest of the endangered species in America's last wild place.

He pretended concern that the commander in chief should have long foreign policy experience, yet chose a successor whose administrative experience consists of governing a population the size of Memphis's for a year and a half.

He pretended to care about corruption, yet chose as his successor Ted Stevens's number-one protege who went on to fire the state's head law enforcer for not using his power to harrass her brother-in-law sufficiently.

McCain pretended to care about America's education, yet chose a successor who wants to force America's public schools to teach its children that the Earth is 6 thousand years old.

John McCain pretends to care about safety and security, yet chose a successor who sees no problem putting AK-47s into the hands of any crazy fuck who likes to hang around schools and playgrounds, any gangbanger who sees killing 8-year-olds as mere collateral damage to a driveby shooting.

McCain struts around as the straight shooter, yet chose a successor whose family received a government dole of $11,788 last year from the oil fund, but still loves to rant about rugged individualism and the evils of socialist welfare.

John McCain is not more of the same. With his sexist attempt to win the votes of a few gullible women he ripped the mask off his own face. John McCain learned destruction at the feet of a master, but like any good student he did his mentor one better. We thought Bush shoved America into the lowest circle of Hell, but we now know that McCain has found a secret door to an even lower depth. Bush hurt America more deeply than Bin Laden could have ever aspired to. McCain as he stands revealed before us now will make Bush look like a minor nuisance. A vote for McCain is no longer just insane: it is an act of treason.  


ightwing extremist nutcase (0.00 / 0)
is multiply redundant.
just a reminder.

thank you, thank yoo! I'll be performing on the quick hits later, and at in an open thread later this week. try the fresh meat.

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare


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Yup! (0.00 / 0)
That's a mighty effective rapid-fire approach to taking down the McCain charade.  The only thing that could improve it is having links for everything you say.  That would make it, like, totally awesome.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I know you're right (4.00 / 2)
it's just so much fun.

McCain has given us Heckuva Job Brownie in a skirt and he thinks no one is going to notice.

Montani semper liberi


Here's another fracture point (4.00 / 1)
If the focus is to be on McCain's lack of seriousness and inattention rather than on Palin's incompetence (and I agree that that's a great idea), virtually any substantive difference between Palin's record and the positions McCain has championed might serve as a place to insert a wedge--so here is another one: "in 2008, the Palin administration 'request[ed] 31 earmarks, down from 54 last year.'"

Looks like McCain didn't know (or didn't care) that she thought Congressional earmarks, which he claims to detest, are actually a good thing (for Alaska, anyway).


excellent point, but not to forget (4.00 / 1)
the right (and by that i really just mean the gushfest over at nro's corner) have all assumed this line of attack from obama/biden. they repeat over and over that obama/biden attacking her lack of experience will simply bring the discussion back to his lack of experience. this threatens to become the common msm story, regardless of whether that's the line of attack the campaign actually pursues. and if it becomes a back and forth about relative lacking experience, obama loses; as you say, this needs to be about mccain, how he leads, how he makes important decisions, who he chooses as his closest advisers, and the lengths he'll go to for political gain.

if the back and forth is about 2 years vs. 4 yrs, small town vs. state, senator vs. governor......it's distracting, beside the point, and ultimately can't be won. this is precisely what they want.

i think she's clearly a lightweight, someone who simply doesn't have opinions on the war and international affairs and many national issues.....because she's never had to. it won't be hard to win that discussion.

but it will be hard to stop the chattering classes from focusing on something other than the experience vs. experience discussion. obama/biden need to be forceful in attacking mccain, and keeping about mccain, otherwise we're gonna get screwed. and the msm will only be too glad to help.


Agreed, Pretty Much (4.00 / 2)
if the back and forth is about 2 years vs. 4 yrs, small town vs. state, senator vs. governor......it's distracting, beside the point, and ultimately can't be won. this is precisely what they want.

Although I'd say it's not so much that it can't be won, but that it's the wrong battle.  Win it, and you get the booby prize.

The initial polling I point to in my quick hit suggests that people aren't really fooled by this, particularly women.  I think there's plenty of maneuvering room for Obama's campaign if they just keep their heads, and pick their shots.  The initial ad highlighted by steve katz in his quick hit is a very good sign in this direction, IMHO.

But, of course, our real adversary in all this is the media, not McCain.  He would literally drown in his own drool without them.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Another advantage (4.00 / 1)
of focusing on McCain is that by doing so, we indirectly underline that the McCain-Palin administration won't be anything near an equal partnership. We don't have to attack her because she's window dressing and will have no real role in governing.

No society that feeds its children on tales of successful violence can expect them not to believe that violence in the end is rewarded. -Margaret Mead

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100 Million Voters Get Their Information from the Internet (0.00 / 0)
Obviously, McCain and his advisers believe there are enough right wing fundamentalist voters and Independents who will vote for him and Palin to get his ticket elected.

I have my doubts that these votes are out there.

George W. Bush won in 2004 with 62 million recorded votes to Kerry's 59 million.

However, times have changed and working class voters' economic and financial status have greatly deteriorated over the past 4 years of the Bush administration.

Their distress is likely to outweigh their culture war proclivities and susceptibility to Republican propaganda.

As a result, a record-breaking 38 million people watched Obama's acceptance speech last week.

Moreover, registered Democrats, Republicans and Independents each continue to attract about a third of all voters (with the Democrats edging out in front according to party reports).

Since Independents remain the decisive voting bloc, I wager that the majority of them are too discerning to be taken in by McCain's ideological opportunism in naming Palin in a bid to ride George W. Bush's electoral coattails four years after the fact.

Accordingly, I am betting that most Independents are NOT going to vote for 72 year old McCain and his extreme right wing totally unprepared and inexperienced VP pick Palin, who would be only a heart beat away from the presidency.

Now it is quite likely that the mass media are going to push the McCain/Palin ticket despite her lack of readiness and extreme right wing views and political stances.

But what encourages me most of all to think that it is a losing ticket even if the mass media whips up support among Bush's 2004 electorate are Pew Research polls showing that 100 million Americans go to the Internet to get political information about the candidates and the issues.

No matter what the mass media does, I doubt that their viewership is going to hold a candle to the independent thinkers who use the Internet to shape their political choices.  


What if? (0.00 / 0)
What if the pick was designed to fail. What if McCain expects that her candidacy will be swatted down in the media. After she goes, he can chose anyone he wants.  He will have accomplished three things.
1. He will have sucked all of the oxygen out of Obama's post convention media coverage.
2. He will have thrown a bone to the Religious Right
3. He will get the VP he wants, probably Lieberman and highlight the whole "experience" thing

Sounds like a trifecta to me


So, Can I Borrow Your "Prisoner" DVDs??? (0.00 / 0)
Not that I wouldn't put it past them....

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Funny, I've thought a lot about that show lately (0.00 / 0)
For the remake, should we cast Rove as #1 or #2?

The idea that she was as poorly vetted as she appears to be sent my bullshit detector to overload.


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How would that work? (0.00 / 0)
He's going to say, I guess the media thinks I screwed up so I'm dumping Palin and bringing in Lieberman?

Don't see that happening. To replace her he'd pretty much have to kill her so he could coast on the "tragedy". Otherwise he's just acknowledging that he's nuts.


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She will pull out (0.00 / 0)
McCain will publicly ask her to stay. She will pull out for her family's sake. McCain will reluctantly accept her decision.  He will then chose Lieberman or whoever the hell else he wants. She will become the martyred daughter of the Religious Right. They love their martyrs.

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Still hits his judgement. (0.00 / 0)
So she didn't know her family needed her when she accepted the nod? McCain didn't ask her if she could really do the job? What's the secret reason? Is she mentally ill, and McCain didn't know it?

Whatever the excuse there's going to be a lot of cynicism even from the MSM because we've been down this road so many times before. Besides, Palin herself isn't the issue -- McCain's nuttiness in hiring her is the issue, and her leaving only makes his flakiness stand out more brightly.

I don't see any way out of this for him.


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Harriet Miers redux (4.00 / 1)
It's a long-shot, but I suppose it could happen.  I don't think it looks any better for McCain than going ahead and running with her, though.

"A fantasy is not even a wish, much less an act.  There is no such thing as a culpable or shameful fantasy."  -----Lady Sally McGee

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It worked so well before (4.00 / 1)
with George McGovern and Tom Eagleton.

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Actually (0.00 / 0)
it worked so well before with George Bush and Harriet Meirs.

No society that feeds its children on tales of successful violence can expect them not to believe that violence in the end is rewarded. -Margaret Mead

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Mother of all Headfakes (0.00 / 0)
I think Palin will drop out next week with the excuse that she needs to put her family first.

This will allow McCain to choose a more established candidate. Having Palin as his first allows him to give a big ol' nod to the fundamentalists, so that they won't be so upset when he goes with Romney.  


I think Palin will drop out next week (4.00 / 2)
on account of the bastard grandbaby.

McCain really did not vet this one. He hasn't screwed up this bad since the time he crashed a plane into some power lines over the Iberian peninsula. Unless you count the time he sunk one into the Bay at Corpus Christi.

Montani semper liberi


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The Baby (0.00 / 0)
I take it that you and Paul believe that the information/evidence about the baby belonging to the daughter might well be true?

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I just find it hard to believe (4.00 / 1)
a woman in active labor, whose membranes have broken, gets on an airplane for a seven hour ride instead of going to a hospital. They've got hospitals in Dallas, after all.

Montani semper liberi

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Sadie (4.00 / 1)
I'm not doubting that you're correct. I don't know yet, of course. But I read an article this morning that included quotes from close associates who had been around her during her supposed pregnancy. They said that they did not know that she was 'pregnant' until she announced it during what was supposedly her seventh month.

If I remember where I read that I'll link to it.  


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I Don't Know (4.00 / 1)
I haven't really looked into it deeply.  But this:

Palin baby due in May

Thu, March 6, 2008
Posted in Alaska News, Top Stories

The Palin family is growing some more. Governor Palin late yesterday announced that she is seven months pregnant. The announcement was a complete surprise - even her top staff didn't know until she mentioned it to a few reporters after a press conference.

Dave Donaldson, APRN - Juneau

is a damn sight less credible than the plot in Desperate Housewives, IMHO.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Paul (0.00 / 0)
Thanks, that's the article I was referring to.

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Meanwhile, the sixteen year old daughter (4.00 / 1)
goes missing from school for months. Not even her closest friends could see her because she supposedly had mono.

Montani semper liberi

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Link, Please? (0.00 / 0)
I'd really, really like some substantiating evidence for this; it goes right along with my diary on Palin's ownership theory of parenthood.  Maybe she actually did breed her daughter like livestock....

"A fantasy is not even a wish, much less an act.  There is no such thing as a culpable or shameful fantasy."  -----Lady Sally McGee

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I would too! (0.00 / 0)
Unfortunately, this is the best we have for now:

http://www.drudge.com/news/111...

But if this is true, it will be impossible to keep covered up much longer.

Montani semper liberi


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Motherhood Question Photos (4.00 / 1)
There's a diary on the Motherhood Question over at Daily Kos.

If true, I hate to try to predict the fallout. Here in my own house I've already heard sympathy for the predicament faced by Sarah and her daughter.

I am myself more inclined to be disgusted by the mindset that would feel the need to pull a stunt like that to cover-up what in a just world have been an event without stigma.


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This is the diary (4.00 / 1)
I refer to in my diary. The photos, even more than the circumstantial evidence, justify suspicions that Palin pulled off the scam of the century.

Some have argued that she was "altruistic" in doing so--that she was protecting her daughter. Of course, she could have protected her daughter better by teaching her about birth control--or abstinence. But it's more pertinent to argue that this was an act of egregious manipulation and narcissism. She was protecting her own reputation, at the expense of her alleged Judeo-Christian morality and at the expense of her daughter's spiritual and psychological well-being. If this scenario is true, she was so full of herself that she thought she could get away with anything. Can you imagine how frightening it would be to have such a person as Vice President or President?

Equally important, if this scenario is true, it shows that McCain's vetting didn't exist and that he was reckless--make that foolhardy--with the nation's future. When push came to shove, it was country last.

The momentousness of this charge means that someone needs to get to the bottom of it soon. If it's false, we need to clear Sarah Palin's name and let her get on with her campaign. If it's true, she needs to go away forever. Of all the issues raised concerning Palin, this is the one that needs to be addressed first and foremost.


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So Many Planes, So Little Time! (4.00 / 1)
He hasn't screwed up this bad since the time he crashed a plane into some power lines over the Iberian peninsula. Unless you count the time he sunk one into the Bay at Corpus Christi.

Just think how much more efficient it would be to crash entire  squadrons!

Heck, why stop there?  Why not entire wings?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Take McCain's Choice of Palin Seriously (0.00 / 0)
I think the way to both (a) accurately describe a frightening possible future, and (b) hit McCain for this selection is by emphasizing that Palin and the policies she approves are how McCain will govern.

Don't tell me after 7.5 years of unaccountable Fourthbranch Cheney, who ran Bush Jr's energy policy, foreign policy, and domestic policy of political prosecution that oh, now the VP position is going to be unimportant and just about going to funerals, as McCain says.

Bullsh*t.

McCain picked Palin because he wants her in the VP position so that she can do exactly what you think she would do in Cheney's office.


A net loss for McCain (4.00 / 1)
He wins over many fundies and other far-right types with Palin, but he loses even more centrist swing voters with her, I believe. She's not some please the base corporatist center-right Repub, but the real deal, a bible-thumping, science-rejecting, environment-despising, gun-loving, abortion rights-hating, authoritarian wingnut nutjob--and corrupt to boot--right out of the Rick Santorum mold. And we all know how well he did in his rustbelt state, with the centrist swing voter demo that Palin was meant to help out with.

McCain can have his reactionary fire and brimstone Left Behind nutjobs. He just lost the center, and was NEVER going to win over the vast majority of genuine Clinton supporters.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


Great entry Paul (4.00 / 1)
Something about your diaries, I almost always don't agree with you, but I believe you nailed it on this one! Great Job.

is she the best? (4.00 / 1)
I think it would also be fair to ask the question: "Is this the best pick McCain could have made for someone who will be one heartbeat away from the Presidency?"  This questions McCain judgment and indirectly raises the question of her qualifications, in a way that I think is legitimate.  The question is not "is she ready?", the question is, "is she the best choice?"

Poor choice (0.00 / 0)
I think it's becoming clear that this was a poor choice on McCain's part--tactically as well as substantively. He's on the defensive now, not on the offensive, where he needs to be and where he was in the weeks before the Democratic convention.

McCain needs to get Wright and Ayers or their equivalents back on the front burner. That will be harder with Palin already there.


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