Discussing McCain's Pro-Child Molester Ad On MSNBC's New Rachel Maddow Show

by: David Sirota

Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 15:15


Last night, I appeared on Rachel Maddow's new MSNBC show to discuss John McCain's new ad attacking Barack Obama on education. You can watch the discussion here:

In airing this ad, McCain has done something I never thought I would see: He has sponsored a new television commercial that effectively declares his support for child molestor rights.  

David Sirota :: Discussing McCain's Pro-Child Molester Ad On MSNBC's New Rachel Maddow Show
I'm dead serious here: The ad explicitly criticizes Obama for supporting state legislation that the Kansas City Star notes was designed to give "schools the ability to warn young children about inappropriate touching and sexual predators."

So by basic logical deduction, then, McCain's ad attacking Obama for supporting that bill means McCain would have opposed it - meaning he would have taken the side of the Pedophilia Lobby that wants young children to not understand when they are being molested. I'm wondering - is there a NAMBLA endorsement in the works for McCain? The Arizona senator sure seems to be courting that interest group with this latest declaration.

Of course, McCain's ad is aimed at pushing the kind of cultural populism Republicans have been using for at least a generation. In this case, McCain is willing to put himself on record as supporting child molesters, as long as it helps him depict Obama as not just a child molester supporter, but a child molester himself - which is what the ad's voiceover basically suggests when it hysterically implies State Senator Obama tried to fondle small schoolchildren while whispering sweet porn nothings into their ear.

Put into pop culture terms, this is McCain's effort to turn the 2008 presidential campaign into the infamous Different Strokes child molester episode - starring Barack Obama as the guy kneeling in this picture.

On Rachel's show last night, we discussed how Obama can - and should - respond to this kind of cultural populism. I reiterated that, in general, he needs to do what I suggested in a newspaper column a few months back: namely, voice strong economic populist themes that keep the campaign debate focused on the issues of most import, and that Democrats win on.

In specifically responding to this ad, I told Rachel that Obama has to learn a lesson from perhaps the most famous example of failed methods of responding to such issues - the one from the 1988 presidential debate, where Michael Dukakis answered Bernard Shaw's question about raping and murdering Kitty Dukakis not with an emotional attack on Shaw's inappropriate inquiry, but with dispassionate platitudes. Watch that moment here:

If Obama reacts forcefully and emotionally to McCain's ad - not through a spokesman but on his own - he could make this ad and the right's whole cultural populist meme backfire on McCain. But that's a big if.

As one addendum: If you haven't checked out Rachel's new show, you should. It's great - fast-paced, funny, informative - and anchored by a real movement progressive. It's also doing really well in its first few days of ratings.  


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Too bad the Obama campaign would never hit back like this (0.00 / 0)


But what about piggy-gate? (0.00 / 0)
This morning, I was hoping to see a real emotional reply to the child-molestor thing.  Then I saw the major morning newshows LEAD with "piggy-gate."

And when I later saw Obama reply to piggy-gate (yes, I really like saying it that way), I felt pretty good at how well he ridiculed them, connected it to his own message of change and exposed them as "more of the same."

So, now, I don't know if Obama really can reply to the child sex-ed ad TODAY.  Maybe that's too much for the media to grasp at one time.

But TOMORROW, I would like to see him, with guns blazing on this issue also.

In fact, I wouldn't mind one comprehensive speech, putting it all together.  


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Disagree (4.00 / 1)
I think Obama has to let his allies and the press (such as it is) ratchet up the outrage so everybody knows what he's talking about when he addresses the ad. He has to be last in line with the anger -- otherwise he just comes off like a whiner, and ends up further publicizing the ad. He absolutely cannot be defensive.

Let's not be beating up on Obama about this. Maybe if so many around here and the in the rest of leftistan hadn't beat up on MoveOn for a perfectly reasonable ad, they'd be more motivated to go for the blood and guts this time around. Let Obama do what he has to do. The question for us is, how are we getting McCain's outreach to pedophiles into the national consciousness?


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Sleaziest ad ever (0.00 / 0)

http://www.time-blog.com/swamp...
Now he is responsible for one of the sleaziest ads I've ever seen in presidential politics, so sleazy that I won't abet its spread by linking to it, but here's the McClatchy fact check.

I just can't wait for the moment when John McCain--contrite and suddenly honorable again in victory or defeat--talks about how things got a little out of control in the passion of the moment. Talk about putting lipstick on a pig.

Agree that hitting back from a cultural populism standpoint, from an offensive position, would be the most effective approach.  

But, having to respond to charges of being a pedophile? It is so disgraceful of a charge that defending oneself against that, could but somewhat of a landmine for Obama. He certainly should NOT go on the defensive in attempt to prove he's not a child molestor and dignify their outrageous charge.



No, Obama was trying to oppose the child molesters. (4.00 / 1)
It's McCain that's trying to help the child molesters.  Obama needs to make that clear.  Leave the high road to Swiss mountaineers.

[ Parent ]
Right (4.00 / 1)
Obama supported educational programs that would protect children from predators. Not really my point. My point is, he cannot come out and say, "I am NOT a child molestor as McCain has accused me of being."

Obama needs to hit McCain from on offensive position on this. Talk about how McCain wants to give more money to big oil rather than adequately fund our schools, including programs that protect our children from predators.  


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I Agree with Both El Cid and NCDemAmy (4.00 / 1)
Obama should hit him from an offensive position, but he should hit McCain right on this issue.  But I don't think Obama should clime down into this slime pit personally.  The attack should go into a 30 second ad and should only be shown in the markets where the McCain television add was shown.  If Obama makes statements on this in the national press, my guess is that most people will not know what he was talking about because not everyone will have seen this ad.  

It's likely that McCain aired this ad in certain swing states and in particular markets.  Obama should air a 30 second commercial in response, but one that puts Obama on the offensive and makes McCain play defense:

"As a member of the Illinois State Legislature, Barack Obama helped pass important legislation to provide education to our children to help protect our children from pedophiles.  Now, John McCain has attacked Barack Obama for supporting this important legislation.  Why is John McCain taking the side of pedophiles in this debate?  John McCain, more of the same Bush politics.  I'm Barack Obama and I approve this ad because we need to change our politics."    

Saxby Chambliss, worse than disgraceful; he's reprehensible.  


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Its like saying ... (0.00 / 0)

...No, I don't beat my wife.

[ Parent ]
Is John McCain Helping Pedophiles & Child Molesters? (4.00 / 2)
Barack Obama supported a bill to help our vulnerable children to recognize the dangers of pedophiles and sex predators and to seek help when they need it.

But John McCain and the Republican Party are attacking Barack Obama's efforts to make our children safer.

Why are John McCain and the Republican Party trying to help pedophiles and child molesters?


McCain cares more about big corps than our children (4.00 / 1)
It's basically another "which side are you on" argument.  

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Republicans, go to a McCain/Palin rally. (4.00 / 2)
Just be sure and leave the kids at home. John McCain and Sarah Palin are reaching out to pedophiles. And they're reaching out to your children.

We need to hear more about... (4.00 / 2)
...the "Pedophilia Lobby". It is the kind of attack that is essentially accurate based on McCain's own add, yet has the "outrage" power that is necessary to drive the media into a frenzy.

And yes, David, we all want to see economic populism, but do you really think the media will focus on this? The media spent tons of time and energy covering Edwards over the last two years but somehow, somehow, managed to completely avoid discussing his economic positions.


"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra


well (0.00 / 0)
McCain is put out the ad to deliberately distract the cable news chatter machine and give them something to blab about that puts Obama in a starkly negative light. And this is targeted to the non-issue driven voters so that they will associate Obama with Bad Stuff (the black guy wants to teach sex to innocent kids! All kinds of cultural notes being hit there).

So if the counterstrategy is to feed the frenzy with more (anti-McCain) raw meat and target those same voters to drive up McCain's negatives, I think going after McCain on the pedophila / NAMBLA association could be successful. But you have to commit to that tactic and stick with it, with multiple surrogates going out there right away and saturating the media with message discipline. I don't know if Obama's campaign is that committed...

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that."
-Lawrence Summers


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Committed? (0.00 / 0)
I'd be pretty committed if someone accused me of sexually corrupting kindergarteners in front of the entire nation.

If Obama is ever going to take a strong, offensive stance, then This Is The Time. It's almost five o'clock Eastern - what the fuck is Obama waiting for?  

"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra


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One more thing (0.00 / 0)
If nothing else, these latest ads are getting Obama-fans angrier and providing them with even more motivation.

Not sure how much that actually matters, though.


The Chicago Way (4.00 / 1)
It's time for Obama to drop the glows and start swinging. Since he came up through Chicago politics he should take some advice from Sean Connery's character in The Untouchables about the Chicago way.



Glad to see this (0.00 / 0)
I've been quoting this all over the place!

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it's a web ad only (0.00 / 0)
The sex ed ad isn't being run on TV.  

That's so much the better... (0.00 / 0)
..if TV audiences have not seen it & it is presented in a context of a smear on Obama, it will have a double whammy effect.

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If Obama reacts forcefully and emotionally to McCain's ad.... (0.00 / 0)
"If Obama reacts forcefully and emotionally to McCain's ad - not through a spokesman but on his own - he could make this ad and the right's whole cultural populist meme backfire on McCain. But that's a big if."

I would say: If Obama does not react forcefully and emotionally to crap like this, then he deserves to lose.

Obama should demand
1) a personal apology, from both McCain and Palin
2) a public, spoken apology, from both McCain and Palin
3) a notice on the home page of the McCain campaign web site, apologizing and explaining this sordid affair.

He should begin each and every interview, public speech, and debate with a reminder of just how low the McCain/Palin campaign sank, until he gets ALL of the apologies I list above. If he's so much of a wuss that he wouldn't do so, even if he thought of this himself, who needs him for President? I don't want a hothead for President (a key reason I'd never vote for McCain), but I don't want a wuss, either.

In terms of his chances of winning the election, the best thing that could happen is that neither McCain nor Palin apologize. Then, come election day, everybody will know just what a sleazebag McCain is. That's assuming that Obama reacts properly.

I said it before, and I'll say it again. This campaign should also be about campaigning. The Democrats should be using this opportunity to educate the public about just how sleazy some campaigns have been, especially and including what was done to Max Cleland.

Ah, but we're talking about Democrats here, aren't we? This is the party that didn't go on strike until federal laws were on the books to demand that all federal elections have a verifiable paper trail. Why educate the public about gross lying and smearing on the part of the Republicans, when you can't be bothered to force public awareness of vote fraud issues, either?


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