Presidential Forecast, 10/1: This Isn't Close Anymore

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 18:18


Electoral College: Obama 300, McCain 163 Toss-up 75 (270 to win)
National popular vote: Obama 49.2%--43.6% McCain


(Dark Blue (239): Obama +7.0% or more
Lean Blue (61): Obama +2.6%-+6.9%
White / Toss-up (75): Obama +2.5% to McCain +2.5%
Lean Red (5): McCain +2.6%-+6.9%
Dark Red (158): McCain +7.0% or more
)

Swing State Overview (270 to win, 269 to tie)
(Swing States are defined as states closer than 5.0%. Before you ask, if a state isn't listed, it isn't that close right now. Also before you ask, yes I have included whatever new poll you can show me.)
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin Obama Total
Obama Base 249 249
Maine-02* 1 -- -- +5.0% 250
Minnesota 10 49.7% 45.0% +4.7% 260
Virginia 13 50.0% 46.5% +3.5% 273
Florida 27 48.4% 45.6% +2.8% 300
Colorado 9 48.0% 45.7% +2.3% 309
Ohio 20 48.0% 46.0% +2.0% 329
Nevada 5 48.7% 47.7% +1.0% 334
New Hampshire 4 47.0% 46.0% +1.0% 338
North Carolina 15 47.3% 47.0% +0.3% 353
Missouri 11 47.0% 47.7% -0.7% 364
Indiana 11 45.7% 47.7% -2.0% 375
McCain Base 163 163

With only 33 days until the election, and with early voting under way in a few states, Obama has taken a commanding lead in the 2008 presidential campaign. Obama is up to 353 electoral votes, and has a comfortable lead outside the margin of error in states worth 273 300 electoral votes. If Election Day were tomorrow, I would estimate McCain's chances of victory at around 5-10%. That ios pretty similar to fivethirtyeight.com, which currently gives Obama an 85.4% chance of victory.

The bad news is that Election Day isn't tomorrow, and we still have quite a bit of campaigning to do. There are three more debates, including one tomorrow where, in order to surpass expectations, all Palin has to do is show up and demonstrate that she can speak English. A lot can happen in 33 days, and it is best to stay on the attack as much as possible. Winning isn't the only goal right now--building a working majority to in order to pass legislation also matters quite a bit. Kos has a good list of ways of looking at the current situation as well.

State by state details in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Presidential Forecast, 10/1: This Isn't Close Anymore
Solid Obama: 239 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
California 55 52.0% 40.7% +11.3% 3
Connecticut 7 52.7% 37.3% +15.4% 3
Delaware 3 54.0% 39.7% +14.3% 3
D.C. 3 82.0% 13.0% +69.0% 1
Hawaii 4 64.0% 30.0% +34.0% 3
Illinois 21 55.0% 37.7% +17.3% 3
Iowa 7 52.0% 41.0% +11.0% 3
Maine-AL* 2 50.5% 42.3% +8.2% 4
Maine-01* 1 -- -- +11.4% 0
Maryland 10 55.3% 38.0% +17.3% 3
Massachusetts 12 56.0% 38.7% +17.3% 3
Michigan 17 51.0% 42.0% +9.0% 3
New Jersey 15 50.3% 41.0% +9.3% 3
New Mexico 5 52.0% 43.3% +8.7% 3
New York 31 55.7% 39.3% +16.4% 3
Oregon 7 52.7% 40.3% +12.4% 3
Pennsylvania 21 50.0% 41.8% +8.2% 5
Rhode Island 4 50.0% 34.7% +15.3% 3
Vermont 3 57.0% 36.7% +20.3% 3
Washington 11 50.3% 43.0% +7.3% 3

Lean Obama: 61 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Florida 27 48.4% 45.6% +2.8% 8
Maine-02* 1 -- -- +5.0% 0
Minnesota 10 49.7% 45.0% +4.7% 3
Virginia 13 50.0% 46.5% +3.5% 4
Wisconsin 10 49.3% 42.7% +6.6% 3

Toss-up: 75 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Colorado 9 48.0% 45.7% +2.3% 3
Indiana 11 45.7% 47.7% -2.0% 3
Missouri 11 47.0% 47.7% -0.7% 3
Nevada 5 48.7% 47.7% +1.0% 3
New Hampshire 4 47.0% 46.0% +1.0% 3
North Carolina 15 47.3% 47.0% +0.3% 3
Ohio 20 48.0% 46.0% +2.0% 4

Lean McCain: 5 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
West Virginia 5 44.3% 49.7% -5.4% 3

Solid McCain: 158 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Alabama 9 36.3% 60.7% -24.4% 3
Alaska 3 38.0% 55.0% -17.0% 3
Arizona 10 38.3% 53.3% -15.0% 3
Arkansas 6 40.7% 52.0% -11.3% 3
Georgia 15 42.0% 53.3% -11.3% 3
Idaho 4 29.0% 66.0% -37.0% 3
Kansas 6 36.7% 58.0% -21.3% 3
Kentucky 8 38.7% 55.0% -16.3% 3
Louisiana 9 40.7% 54.0% -13.3% 3
Mississippi 6 40.7% 53.0% -12.3% 3
Montana 3 42.8% 52.0% -9.2% 4
Nebraska-AL** 2 35.3% 55.7% -20.4% 3
Nebraska-01** 1 -- -- -14.4% 0
Nebraska-02** 1 -- -- -9.4% 0
Nebraska-03** 1 -- -- -38.4% 0
North Dakota 3 41.3% 53.3% -12.0% 3
Oklahoma 7 34.7% 61.3% -26.6% 3
South Carolina 8 39.3% 55.0% -15.7% 3
South Dakota 3 38.7% 51.0% -12.3% 3
Tennessee 11 38.0% 53.7% -15.7% 3
Texas 34 37.3% 50.7% -13.4% 4
Utah 5 28.3% 63.7% -35.4% 3
Wyoming 3 34.3% 60.3% -26.0% 3

* Maine's four electoral votes are awarded as follows: two for the statewide winner, and one for the winner of each congressional district. ME-01 is about 3.2% more Democratic than the state as a whole, while ME-02 is about 3.2% less Democratic than the state as a whole.

** Nebraska's five electoral votes are awarded as follows: two for the statewide winner, and one for the winner of each congressional district. NE-01 is about 6.0% more Democratic than the state as a whole, NE-02 is about 11.0% more Democratic than the state as a whole, and NE-03 is about 18.0% less Democratic than the state as a whole.

Methodology
The forecast is updated whenever there are enough new polls to warrant an update. The methodology for the forecast is simple and straightforward.

  1. For each state, all polls with the majority of their interviews condcuted within the last 7 days from publication of the forecast are included in the averages. There are some necessary exceptions to this rule.
  2. Every state has at least three polls, so the first exception are states without three polls that meet the previous criteria. In the event that three polls taken within the past week are not available, the three most recent polls are used. (Note: "Most recent" is determined by the mid-point in the dates of the polls. For example, a poll taken from 9/14-9/17 has a mid-pint of 9/15.5. In the event that more than one poll shares the most recent mid-point, all polls with that mid-point are included in the average.)
  3. The second exception comes with polling firms that have conducted more than two poll in a state over the last 7 days. Every polling firm only has one poll per average.
  4. No polling firm discrimination whatsoever. Polls are never excluded because the organization has a bad or partisan reputation.

During the final two weeks of the election, only polls taken entirely within the past seven days will be included in the averages (with the same exceptions listed above, of course).


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I like (4.00 / 7)
I like the results, and also you saying that 33 days is a long time. Who knows what can happen in the course of 3 debates, and who knows what other events may happen along the way...Best remedy for this is to stay on the offense, stay discilpined and focused.  

No no, best strategy is prevent defense (0.00 / 0)
It always works great in football.

John McCain won't insure children

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ah, that blue Virginia looks so sweet (4.00 / 5)
It would be nice to see two paths to victory outside 5%, but maybe that is greedy.  

On the other hand, it's hard to believe McCain can't improve on how he did the last week.  As bad a week of campaigning as there has ever been in history, I'd think.

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.


Exactly... (4.00 / 3)
....it's not over, yet!

I just got a call from Matt Damon telling me to register and early vote here in Ohio....  Good stuff!!

We've still got to GOTV like we've never GOTV'd before... and getting a good start in the swing states while the polling is good really helps!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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Everyone who hasn't yet (0.00 / 0)
should contact their local Obama office and let them know when you'd like to volunteer. If all you can do is election day, or the weekend before, that's great, let them know. Even 2 hours on one day is a huge help.

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Did Ben Affleck (4.00 / 1)
call you too?

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The problem is now they have absolutely no consistent narrative (4.00 / 4)
Is McCain attacking Obama or is he above the fray? You can't simultaneously have both messages.

Probably what they were hoping was that they could attack Obama in the summer and make him unacceptable and the look all non-partisan and presidential once the debates started. Didn't quite work out that way.

Now they have 33 days left and they're trying to project two messages at the same time (and often in the same sentence!). It doesn't help that the RNC has also apparently decided to bail on McCain and focus on not losing any more house or senate seats (e.g. their 5 million ad buy against the bailout).  


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very interesting (0.00 / 0)
I hadn't thought through the bailout ad, but that seems quite right.

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

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The McCain campaign (0.00 / 0)
has already declared they're going to attack Obama for Wright and Ayers:

The McCain campaign is gearing up to criticize Senator Obama for his past associations with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright and a former Weather Underground operative, William Ayers, in the home stretch of the presidential race.

http://www.nysun.com/national/...

It's going to be as ugly as anything we've seen. We'll be treated all over again to Jeremiah Wright's greatest hits, especially "God Damn America." That'll be McCain's driving strategy, along with praying for an international crisis and/or trying to get Bush to start one.



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Too bad for McCain that... (0.00 / 0)
...he's already ditched his enormous credibility with the media.  It's going to be tougher to get that crap to stick if the media won't play ball, which (it's pretty clear) they're not going to be inclined to do.

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I'm sure it will have some effect (0.00 / 0)
But I question the efficacy of such a strategy this late in the game. If he wanted to go down that road, he should have done it before the Democratic Nation Convention, before the first debate. In other words, before Obama had months introducing himself to the American people, showing that he isn't a crazy Manchurian candidate.

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this has got to be very demoralizing for republicans (4.00 / 1)
they already don't like mccain that much.  the only thing holding up the ticket is palin.  and if she bombs the debate tomorrow, there won't be anything.  if the supposed savior of the republican party burns out, the base will be demoralized.  it will be more difficult for the RNC to raise money.  will the 527 groups really want to flush money down the toilet for john mccain?  i think we could be very close to the last straw.

No crocodile tears, pls (0.00 / 0)
Those "compassionate conservatives" (my ass!) didn't show any sympathy either after they stole the election in 2000 and after they made people believe Kerry is a coward in 2004. The rethugs will get what they deserve now - if the Dems keep fighting for victory until the very last minute and beyond. It's not over yet!

Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back, nor did we falter

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How does McCain flip this around? (0.00 / 0)

  The campaign's been going on long enough that I think voter shifts to a candidate are more likely to be permanent at this point than in the past. Americans are spooked about the economy, and they're gravitating to the Democrat. It's one occasion where branding works in our favor.

  That said, there are three Big Events left -- the three debates. The only way I see them moving the needle in McCain's direction is if Biden or Obama commit a glaring gaffe or blunder. I don't think that's all THAT likely.

  So McCain can go nuclear negative. The problem there is that there are no fresh lines of attack available. Rev. Wright has had TWO big media cycles already -- voters know who he is, and they're breaking for Obama anyway. Ayers is pretty much a nonentity -- associating him with Obama strains credibility TOO much. I guess McCain can make something up. Wouldn't be the first time. Still, Obama needs to be on guard here.

  Palin's "rape tax", OTOH, is a fresh line of attack that can be dusted off if necessary. So we have plenty of weapons at our disposal.

  Then there are external events. The bailout bill, odious as it is, looks like it's going to be a bipartisan affair (it's the public getting date-raped), so that at least blunts its effect on the general election. An international incident is probably the Republicans' best bet at this point. Be ready for that.

   

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


Great (0.00 / 0)
Let McCain and Palin continue to trash their reputations.  We might as well block off Palin's career in national politics while we have the opportunity.

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Economy (0.00 / 0)
I wonder how much attention the economy will be getting in 4 weeks. The bailout bill will most likely be passed on Friday, so what else is there to talk about that had not been talked about before? In other words, this bailout bill provided a potent injection of the economy as the number one issue. But will people feel as intense about it come election day? I hope so.

For McCain, his best bet is to hope Obama or Biden committ a huge gaffe in the debates. He can also hope that there is some national securityforeign policy issue that comes up. If these things don't happen, then he'll probably break out the Rev. Wright issue. Just because Rev. Wright has already gone through the media cycles ad-nauseum does not mean that it cannot be effective. It could serve to remind people of why they may have doubted Obama in the first place. If you pick at a scab hard enough, the cut will start bleeding again.  


It's not going away (4.00 / 2)

 The bailout bill will probably (temporarily) stabilize the markets and avert a complete meltdown, but the realities on the ground -- falling incomes, unemployment, declining living standards, gas prices, health care costs -- aren't going to change for the regular person. So even if the media decides that everything's solved, that won;t necessarily translate into the public feeling that way. Obama can simply keep talking about it.

  I'll see your Rev. Wright and raise you a Hagee. And throw in a witchdoctor.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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The economy will remain THE issue (0.00 / 0)
Yes, by Friday Wall Street will stabilize.
On the better hand, Main Street remains in a turmoil. Obama still has much opportunity to score points if he can differentiate between "must have short range" (bailout) vs. "must have long range" (the rest of us).

IMHO, he hasn't.


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It's not just the bailout (0.00 / 0)
Maybe you've forgotten this, but the economy was already the dominant issue of the campaign even before the credit markets started to implode. It's not like this is a news cycle event, equivalent to a shark attack or a missing white girl.

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Don't Give Up On Missouri (0.00 / 0)
If we can make it there, we win everywhere that matters.  It's the economy and MO has a great urban base where the east ends and the west begins.  

I do think McCain will have another charge.  This is not a done deal but it's getting there.  If we win Missouri the deal is done.  Small towns in Missouri have been big losers in the Repuublican economy.  


Obama will probably peak, then the race tighten again ... (4.00 / 1)

... at least that is the conventional wisdom for a Presidential campaign. Four years ago, Bush peaked around this time, & Kerry had him chased down by November so that it was agonizingly close at the end.

The exception was 1980. As soon as voters found out (in the debates) that Reagan was not a senile old bat, his % got better and better until he own in a landslide.

The race may just "stagnate" at a certain level - McCain may reach his floor and Obama his peak, without much change between now and election day. I think Obama may gain a few more percent before that happens.

Even a major gaffe would not change things much. Do not underestimate how popular Obama is - popularity brings trust, so I think people will forgive a "misspeak" that can be explained away. Biden's gaffes have been minor enough, and have little effect anyway.

What could change things?... it would take a massive newsworthy event with wall-to-wall news coverage equal to the Republican convention to get people reconsidering McCain as a potential President in a big way.

That would mean another 9/11, or a Hurricane Katrina. A Monica Lewinsky-type scandal? Another terrorist attack on American soil? Would people turn to John McCain? Would it be seen as another Bush/ Republican party failure?


Yes, stay alert of an October surprise (0.00 / 0)
We know the rethugs never give up. They sure still have something up their sleeve. Looks like they already decided that McVain has to go more negative. Don't let them surprise you! Keep the ammunitions dry, ready to fight back.
!No pasaran!

Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back, nor did we falter

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