Concern Trolling For McCain

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 17:00


I am going to try a little concern trolling for McCain,and try to come up with a swing state targeting strategy that would help him win. My main purpose in doing so is, even during the midst of Obama's continued rise, to try and figure out what a potential winning strategy would be for McCain, and then develop a counter that would close even that door.

In the extended entry, let the concern trolling begin!

Chris Bowers :: Concern Trolling For McCain
So, McCain is pulling out of Michigan, both candidates are scaling back in Missouri, and McCain is considering greater investment in Maine. Looking at the numbers that Kos posted a little while ago, all of these moves make sense for McCain, except targeting Maine. McCain was never going to win Michigan, just as he has no real chance of winning Iowa, Minnesota, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. If anything, McCain's error is that he didn't pull out of Michigan fast enough, and hasn't followed it up by pulling out of the five additional states I listed. Here is what I would suggest for McCain:

Carpetbomb Colorado, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio and Virginia with paid media, mailings, field, staff, rallies, retail politics, the works. Seriously--don't target any other states except those six, based on the reasonable assumption that if McCain wins all six of those states, he will also pick up Indiana, Missouri, North Carolina and West Virginia. Supplement this narrow targeting strategy, and counter the 50 state investment by the DNC and the Obama campaign, with a high intensity national cable campaign designed to maintain national poll numbers and possibly shake another state or two loose. If the strategy works, then McCain wins the electoral college 278-260, and possibly edges Obama out in the popular vote.

Polling has consistently shown that McCain still has a reasonable shot in Colorado, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio and Virginia. It is very reasonable to assume that Obama won't win North Carolina if he doesn't win Virginia, that he won't win Indiana or Missouri if he doesn't win Ohio, and that he won't win West Virginia if he doesn't win both Ohio and Virginia. Because of this, and since a sweep of those states would secure him 278 electoral votes, the campaign's focus should be on Colorado, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio and Virginia. Those states are worth 78 electoral votes, and if McCain can win 69 of those votes, then he can force an electoral college tie. This is McCain's path to victory, not some ridiculous hope to win in states that Bush lost twice (Maine, Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin), or in purple states where Bush performed below his national numbers twice (Iowa and New Mexico). That just isn't going to happen. New Hampshire is only in play because McCain has spent most of the last nine years campaigning there. That exception can't be made for any other states that either Gore or Kerry won.

McCain's few remaining paths to victory go through Colorado, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio and Virginia. As such, it is vital that we close off that path, by putting ten electoral votes from that list out of play. That presents us with a lot of options, and McCain not very many, but it also shows that it is simply wrong to assume that Obama has this election wrapped up. There are realistic paths to victory for McCain, just not very many.


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playing for 1 Maine EV? (4.00 / 3)
IIRC, Maine allocates EVs by CD, so could the efforts there be to try and shake at least one of Maine's EVs free? This would seem critical if he believes a 269-269 tie is possible.

Bingo (0.00 / 0)
McCain can go without Colorado if he can take one from Maine. (And sweep FL, VA, NH, OH, NV)

It implies they are at least preparing a super-targeted contingency plan to exactly 270. The ultimate inverse of a 50-state strategy, and a pragmatic path for an underdog whose out of game-changing ideas.


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Could be (0.00 / 0)
But probably a waste of time. Just spend the money on a state where you can win all the EVs (and preferably one with more than four of them.)

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Cutting back even more (0.00 / 0)
I was thinking about this earlier today. If McCain is really short on resources, I would focus on CO,OH and NH, with the underlying logic being that the race is bound to tighten once again, and virginia, florida and nevada will all follow the national polling more easily than the other states. In addition to investing in NH I would have GOP congressional candidates start needling their democratic opponents in red presidential districts to say they will vote for the winner of their state in the house of representative in the event of a tie, to tip state delegations

not sure about the targeting (4.00 / 2)
You say, "don't target any other states except those six, based on the reasonable assumption that if McCain wins all six of those states, he will also pick up Indiana, Missouri, North Carolina and West Virginia."

But if he is winning those six states because of a concentrated ad campaign there, then why would it follow that wins there would translate into other states where there is no such campaign?


yeah but (4.00 / 2)
That occurred to me too. I think it's a sound point.

But it's also true that McCain has to campaign under the assumption that the race will tighten up, since he simply has no chance to win the electoral college if he's behind by 6% nationally. And if the race does tighten up - to under 3%, say - then IN, NC, MO, and WV really are quite unlikely to go to Obama. (This also assumes Obama's gotv doesn't give him a big advantage, but that's just another assumption McCain has to make if he hopes to win, since if Obama gains like 3-5% from gotv in all the swing states, it's over for McCain anyway.)


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Obama's counter strategy (0.00 / 0)
I believe Obama has 260 EVs he can count on - - all of Kerry's states plus IA and NM and minus NH.    He needs to keep an eye on them, but they are pretty safe.

If that is the case, Obama only needs 10 more EVs to win (9 to tie).    FL, OH and VA can do that or some other two state combination.   Obama can afford to go "all out" in all 6 of these states.   However, I would recommend that he go "double all out" on three winning scenarios:  win VA, win OH or win CO and NV.  

I don't want to rely on a FL win.   FL is to fickle.    


Dunno (0.00 / 0)
I think we can stick a fork in McCain.

At this point he should defend his home turf and the little that's left of his reputation.

Don't forget that he has relatively limited funds at his disposal and I imagine they spilled a ton of money on states they can't win.


Yes, but he has the ability of the White House to create events (4.00 / 3)
and as utterly incompetent as Republicans are when it comes to governing, they are absolute virtuoso masters at campaigning.

Imagine that a minority party in America has so completely dominated the frames and media for so long that despite every single thing collapsing before our eyes, they almost had their permanent majority in 2004 and the race is still 10+ points tighter than it should be.

They are dangerous no matter how confident we feel, and we must NEVER get complacent with them, even if Democrats had super-majorities in every governing body of the country.

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Completely agree (0.00 / 0)
It ain't over 'til its over. I think Richard Clarke makes an excellent point here:

http://www.usnews.com/articles...


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This Is A National Election (4.00 / 2)
1- In general the states seem to be following the national polls.  By working a given state McCain might make it tighter but not push it to him.

2- Obama's ground game could make a state-by-state strategy moot.  The polls could be under counting Obama's recruit and register new voter drive by 2% to 3%.

3- The Obama campaign is like a hydra, it can afford to cover McCain's media in a given state, and/or attack in states that are marginally McCain

4- The loss of Republican registration in many of these states is a hurdle hard to overcome.

5- The voters may already have made up their mind, the lowish ratings for the first debate point to it.

6- The more desperate McCain appears the more he will turn people off.

7- The Republican brand is an 8,000 pound elephant on his back.

8- Maybe, just maybe people have caught on to how the Republicans play the game.  May Lee Atwater finally rest in peace.

If I was McCain I'd run a classy campaign from here out.  He'd get more votes and save his brand from becoming a bad joke.


I think your advice is good (0.00 / 0)
I think also the national news coverage has been critical to McCain's collapse.  He's got to be consistent in behavior and messaging and get a reason to vote for him.

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I guess McCain disagrees... (0.00 / 0)
They supposedly are going to try and win MN, WI, and/or PA.

Ten (4.00 / 1)
As such, it is vital that we close off that path, by putting ten electoral votes from that list out of play.

The most sensible possibilities seem like either Virginia, or Colorado plus New Hampshire. (The latter being the old "firewall" you've often mentioned.)

How realistic is picking off 1 EV from Nebraska? The EV which is almost in Iowa? Obama is doing pretty well in Iowa. If it works, then with Colorado it's also exactly 10.

Also, a 269-269 tie is likely, though not certain, to be broken in favor of Obama, so maybe only Colorado is enough. But that's risky business.


How McCain can still win Wisconsin (4.00 / 1)
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I've been shocked how much MN has resisted the Obama trend (0.00 / 0)
I think that's due in part to the "Hockey Mom" thing. Thus, IF Palin makes a recovery this evening, then there are similar states - where Obama may not expect a challenge - wingnut friendly Kerry states such as WA and perhaps OR. McSame was close in the polls in those states at the peak of their bounce.

Another thing that's been bothering me is the divergence of "swing state" and national polls - some have been suggesting a bigger Obama margin in swing states - which suggests that there are bluer states which might be vulnerable, maybe NJ. And based on fivethirtyeight.com, McSame is down "only" 10 in the last two CA polls. Would that get distressingly closer if Palin makes a recovery?

Yup, all of this is a stretch, but that's the intent of this concern trolling thread, no? Let's look for our own vulnerabilities.


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