Did McCain Just Concede Election? HUGE Cuts To Medicare Should Put FL, Election Away For Obama

by: Paul Rosenberg

Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 14:15


From the WSJ:

McCain Plans Federal Health Cuts
Medicare, Medicaid Spending Would Be Reduced to Offset Proposed Tax Credit

By LAURA MECKLER

John McCain would pay for his health plan with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid, a top aide said, in a move that independent analysts estimate could result in cuts of $1.3 trillion over 10 years to the government programs.

The Republican presidential nominee has said little about the proposed cuts, but they are needed to keep his health-care plan "budget neutral," as he has promised. The McCain campaign hasn't given a specific figure for the cuts, but didn't dispute the analysts' estimate.

As Josh says at TPM, "I guess they really are writing off Florida."  And with Florida gone, so are McCain's last hopes of winning the election.  The 10- and 12-point leads in Virginia polls released today would just be icing on the cake with Florida in Obama's column.

The McCain campaign has its spin in place for this announcement, but it's the same old "getting rid of waste, fraud, and abuse" that's been used since 1980, and just doesn't seem like it's selling anymore.  So the mere fact that they've allowed this to emerge at this late date in the campaign is as devastating an indictment as the plan itself.  Who needs to hand them an anvil, when they've got more of their own than they have hands?

Paul Rosenberg :: Did McCain Just Concede Election? HUGE Cuts To Medicare Should Put FL, Election Away For Obama
WSJ continues:

In the months since Sen. McCain introduced his health plan, statements made by his campaign have implied that the new tax credits he is proposing to help Americans buy health insurance would be paid for with other tax increases.

But Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Sen. McCain's senior policy adviser, said Sunday that the campaign has always planned to fund the tax credits, in part, with savings from Medicare and Medicaid. Those government health-care programs serve seniors, poor families and the disabled. Medicare spending for the fiscal year ended Sept. 30 is estimated at $457.5 billion.

Mr. Holtz-Eakin said the Medicare and Medicaid changes would improve the programs and eliminate fraud, but he didn't detail where the cuts would come from. "It's about giving them the benefit package that has been promised to them by law at lower cost," he said.

Maybe when McCain's base in the media was secure, and everyone still took him to be a man of honor, integrity, and high principle, they could have sold this.  But coming out last minute like this, claiming it's "always" been planned, but somehow never talked about, and claiming "this won't hurt a bit"?

That's a bit much. You betcha!

Kos has already posted this chart about the plummeting support for McCain among older voters:

Letting this slip out now can only be regarded as a form of electoral suicide.  (There's a longer blow-by-blow recap of how McCain's position--or presentation thereof--has shifted over time at The Plank, which only serves to underscore why they shouldn't have been saying anything new about this at all, from a campaign strategy POV.)

Of course this doesn't mean we should let up.  It means we should re-double our efforts to make sure we win in a landslide.  Because it will take that sort of a mandate--with much stronger Congressional majorities--to meet the enormous challenges that 8 years of Bush have left us saddled with.  The mission now is not to beat McCain, it is to crush him--and the GOP.


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Why this sudden outburst of honesty??? (4.00 / 2)
What do they think they can gain from this? Rethuglicans don't do honesty, they lie until the very last minute, and beyond. That's their traditional behaviour, and so far it paid off for them, because neither the media nor the public holds them accountable for flipflopping on promises. So, this surprising departure from that proven SOP is puzzling. What's going on inside the McVaoin campaign? Are they losing their nerves? Don't they care anymore? What?

I think the campaign has imploded (4.00 / 4)
And various factions or individuals are out of control without any overall narrative. Everyone is just doing what comes to mind. Look at this TPM story that a McCain lawyer now says he did nothing wrong in the Keating 5.  Doesn't this contradict the message that McCain had on the scandal?  It invites further discussion of the scandal and who did what.  


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I just don't get it (4.00 / 3)
McCain is running a terrible, terrible campaign. I mean, it's just one stunningly stupid decision after another. His ineptitude makes Gore look like a brilliant tactician.

The Ayers smear campaign is a smart move, but he's doing everything he possibly can to mitigate its effectiveness by launching it right as the Dow is tanking again, and by accompanying the attacks with anonymous quotes from his campaign admitting that they are only doing it because they can't win as long as the economy dominates the discussion.


After 30 Years Of "What Were They Thinking!" (4.00 / 3)
Directed at Dem politicians and consultants, it's mighty strange to see the parties switch roles like this.

But why ask why when it's so much fun to just watch?

Popcorn?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Yeah, thx. Want a beer? (0.00 / 0)
Here's to you!

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Basically (4.00 / 3)
The McCain campaign does not have a full time evil genius like Rove or Lee Atwater to run it's dark ops and McCain is too undisciplined a candidate to listen to advice anyway.

We have been blessed by the multiple ineptitudes of the McCain campaign.


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Too True! (4.00 / 1)
Too many evil geniuses spoiled the brew.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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That's why I don't drink american beer! (0.00 / 0)
Who knows, the master brewers may be rethuglicans. Eeek!

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Well, I mean (4.00 / 2)
and by accompanying the attacks with anonymous quotes from his campaign admitting that they are only doing it because they can't win as long as the economy dominates the discussion.

That obviously wasn't an intentional decision, but it is nicely demonstrative of exactly how poor the discipline in the McCain camp is... it fits into a larger pattern of the Obama campaign being drama-free, leak-free, and focused, and the McCain campaign rife with internal conflict and leaking all over the place.

If you think about it, morale over there must be horrible right now.


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I don't know (4.00 / 1)
I assumed the leaked quotes were intentional, because I assumed they had enough control over that sort of thing where you wouldn't be seeing any anonymous quotes that they didn't want out there.

If I was wrong, and they just have lost control over their own people, then things are even worse over there than I thought.


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Maybe they think it's better to "let the media in on it"? (0.00 / 0)
Though it does seem like a better idea to just keep lying.  Respond to questions about "why are you bringing this up now?" with the usual stuff about how the public "needs to know the truth about Obama and his friends," etc.  And if there are follow-up questions along the lines of, "but people want to hear about the economic crisis, not Ayers," just lie about how you're still going to be talking about that too.  

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Chuck Todd mentioned something on Meet the Press yesterday (4.00 / 2)
He said that a Dem political consultant he was speaking to wondered out loud, "why didn't they bring up Ayers and/or Rezko right in the middle of the 'Celebrity' stuff?"  It might have had some effect when they seemed to be getting traction with those ads.  Obama is a vainglorious empty suit, AND he's had shady/reprehensible associations.  

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There isn't $1.3 trillion-worth of fraud in those programs (0.00 / 0)
There is certainly large-scale graft with each of them, but this is akin to McCain's attempt last week to blow the effect of earmarks out of proportion.

Actually, Florida isn't the worst problem (0.00 / 0)
Just looked this up:
"Medicaid Enrollment as a Percent of Total Population, 2005"
http://www.statehealthfacts.or...

Well, this is going to be unpopular in almost all Southern states. So, again, why tell those folks what's waiting for them under president Maverick? Why not simply lie, as always???


Let's go for Arizona (4.00 / 2)
I don't want to get too carried away, because it's possible the tide could yet turn.

But if we're aiming for a slaughter, hitting Arizona with this looks like a good idea. Phoenix's growth must surely have left the state with some foreclosure issues, McCain isn't that popular there anywhere and the population is fairly retiree-heavy.

Take McCain's home state and you make his campaign a laughing stock. Except for Gore (who got away with it because it was such a close campaign) nobody has lost their home state since McGovern. That could make it a humiliation.

And if we humiliate McCain, we wipe out any thought in the mids of Republicans that they should pretend to be moderates, so they come back crazier in 2012.

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Coup de grace, yeah? (0.00 / 0)
Well, that's a point...

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Arizona Was Promising Some Time Ago (0.00 / 0)
And I was disappointed it wasn't targetted earlier.  So I couldn't agree more.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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How about a concerted action... (0.00 / 0)
flooding Arizona newspapers with letters and e-mails? Shouldn't count on the media to make a big stink out of McCain's Medicare/Medicaid plans without a lot of pressure...

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For instance, here: (4.00 / 1)
http://www.azcentral.com/news/...

I guess comments about health care are ok in the context of "Economy issue making things difficult for McCain, Obama". Don't forget to vote Biden in the poll!


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Good thinking... (4.00 / 2)
Until this came up, I would have said it was impossible, but Medicare and Medicaid are a big deal here.  In particular, it's possible this issue could swing enough votes in moderate, elderly Tucson to offset the more Republican Valley of the Sun and small-town/rural areas.  Besides, there are no less than four competitive house races here (two GOP-held, and two Democratic freshmen fighting to become sophomores in slightly GOP-leaning districts) that might benefit from a visit from Obama or Biden (actually, sending Biden might be better, since it's senior voters we'd be trying to peal off in this strategy).

"A fantasy is not even a wish, much less an act.  There is no such thing as a culpable or shameful fantasy."  -----Lady Sally McGee

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Oh, and another thing... (4.00 / 1)
If McLame loses Arizona, my guess is it's much more likely that he'll retire from the Senate in a fit of pique, leaving the door open for Governor Napolitano to appoint gay RiNO retired congressman Jim Kolbe, who has something of a grudge against the state and national Republican party, as a placeholder (AZ is one of the states where the law requires the governor to appoint a Republican to fill a Republican vacancy) until 2010, when Napolitano, who has to retire from the statehouse that year anyway, can run for and probably win the seat herself.  If I'm not mistaken, Kolbe would be the first openly gay member of the Senate, which would be cool.

"A fantasy is not even a wish, much less an act.  There is no such thing as a culpable or shameful fantasy."  -----Lady Sally McGee

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Well, a lot of those Southern Medicaid recipients are, in the words of Palin's soon-to-be-son-in-law, "f---in' rednecks".... (0.00 / 0)
Who rail against welfare giving "their tax dollars" to inner city blacks even as they live on it themselves, and who would never vote for a "baby-killin' n----r Muslim librul" from Chicago even if the other guy was flat-out promising to abolish Medicaid, Social Security Disability Income, food stamps, etc. and let them all die of starvation and/or medical neglect.

"A fantasy is not even a wish, much less an act.  There is no such thing as a culpable or shameful fantasy."  -----Lady Sally McGee

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He's appealing to his base (4.00 / 1)
as opposed to Palin's base. He's in danger of losing the money voters, the fiscal conservatives who aren't real happy with this whole bail-out thing  or with McCain's silence on this mess. So, Voila!, an issue that appeals only to one type of voter, the fiscal conservative.

You can check online, the past few days there are more and more reports in the papers and news sites of fiscal conservatives jumping ship, or threatening to, and switching to the Dems. The GOP can't LIVE without this base, it's been their mainstay since Lincoln.

So, it's not stupidity, it's calculated to reach what they see as the essential GOP voter. They're counting on the smear campaign to bring around everybody else. They've saved lots of money for the next month, so the Swiftboating will be constant and loud.  


Sounds right. (0.00 / 0)
At the same time, I think he's so out of touch with public opinion that he expects people to just swallow the claim that he'll bring us health care for most and finance it by getting the waste out of Medicare and Medicaid. So he thinks he's hitting both bases. It's really kind of pathetic. He's like some kind of burned-out drunk putting on wrecked shoes he found in the garbage and imagining that passersby are all admiring his style sense.

Ironically, there is a respectable argument to be made for reforming Medicare and Medicaid, but the solution goes exactly against his principles: kick out all the contractors and put the government bureaucrats back in charge. But that sure wouldn't bring in the bucks from his money base.


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Seriously... (4.00 / 1)
I just quit my job with Bankers Life, which is one of the leading providers of Medicare Supplemental Insurance, in part because far too many people in this part of the country would rather be screwed over by one of the so-called "Medicare Advantage" HMOs than pay a monthly premium to be able to go to any doctor any time with no out-of-pocket costs.  One of my colleagues dubbed them "Medicare's Advantage," because the advantage is all Medicare's and the HMO company's, not the poor Medicare recipient who gets stuck with several thousand dollars in co-pays and deductibles as soon as he or she gets sick, and can't go to the top specialists in any given field because, being at the top of their professions, they don't have to join a network and get paid 40 cents on every dollar they bill.

"A fantasy is not even a wish, much less an act.  There is no such thing as a culpable or shameful fantasy."  -----Lady Sally McGee

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Florida? Try Arizona!! (4.00 / 1)
Seriously. $1.3 Trillion dollars in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid over the next 10 years? Obama should start running ads with this in Arizona. Seriously.

"In a mountain half-way between Reno and Rome/ We have a machine in a plexiglass dome/ That listens and looks into everyone's home." -- Theodore Seuss Geissel

Arizona: 24% rely on Medicaid (0.00 / 0)
Check the link I posted above. Even bigger problem: New Mexico, 28% (!). And McCain is already struggling there.

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New Nexico Is Long Gone (4.00 / 1)
McCain was never counting on winning it.  But Florida was crucial.  Had to win 2 of 3: FL, OH, PA. Now can't. That's the election.

But AZ, now that's the exclamation point that moves it into major realignment territory.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Oops, I'm behind the times (0.00 / 0)
so many news, so little brain capacity...
:-(

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He's not struggling in NM, he's lost it. (0.00 / 0)
I don't think he ever had a realistic shot of winning New Mexico.

"A fantasy is not even a wish, much less an act.  There is no such thing as a culpable or shameful fantasy."  -----Lady Sally McGee

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Smile...its nice to be on this side for a change (0.00 / 0)
Just like Paul said, redouble our efforts...I turned in 3 voters registration forms here in Florida and 6 vote by absentee.  today is the last day to register to vote...Now its the ground game and get out the vote...this will be a repudiation of the last 8 years that no one has ever seen...maybe then we can take back our country from these scum sucking pigs that have tried to ruin it and get rich in the process.  ENOUGH!!!

Don't forget Pennsylvania (0.00 / 0)
Something like 1 out of every 6 Pennsylvanians is a senior.  That's a whole lot of Medicare recipients.  Medicare reimbursement levels to hospitals is one of the key issues around Wilkes-Barre, which is one of the crucial swing areas in the state.

If this sticks, McCain is going to lose Pennsylvania, too. Which would probably happen anyway, but this would cement it.


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