When McCain Says "My Fellow Prisoners" (3.00 / 4)

It's just an inadvertant acknowledgement of the police state we've become under G.W. Bush.

He should not be ridiculed for this.  To the contrary, he should be congradulated for a rare moment of honesty, however accidental or inadvertant it may be.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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by: Paul Rosenberg @ Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 20:21:34 PM UTC

Medical records (0.00 / 0)

I think we've discussed this in threads here before, but why do people think that the Obama campaign has not (as I understand it) released his full medical records?  It seems like that would have been by far the best way to get the age and health issues out there about McCain.  What could McCain have done, accused Obama of trying to pull a campaign stunt by being...fully transparent about his health?  It certainly would have had a chance of creating a media groundswell for McCain to be equally transparent about his health, something he plainly has no interest in doing.  

Am I missing any downside for Obama in doing this?  It's probably too late in the game at this point, but I think it would have made sense to do it sometime before the conventions.  

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by: Haggai @ Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 20:21:47 PM UTC

keep pushing him in public (0.00 / 0)

one display in the campaign is worth 1000 of these videos.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."

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by: SpitBall @ Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 20:30:13 PM UTC

Meh, is this all you've got? (0.00 / 0)

Personally, I'm not big on supplements.  You can make darned near any claim on them that you want and don't have to prove it.  It's not prescribed by a doctor, so there's no diagnosis.  

You or I could decide that it's a good way to prevent long-term memory degeneration and take it, too.  I could decide that taking daily doses of reservatrol, a compound in red wine which allegedly has some good health effects; it wouldn't mean I have heart disease, it might just mean I think I can prevent it with this supplement.  By itself, it means nothing.

Don't misunderstand me - I'm all for McCain releasing his medical records, and his physical condition scares me.  But I don't think the supplements, by themselves, mean anything.

Now if it turns out he's been PRESCRIBED any drug which is used for treating dementia, that's a different story.

War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength; McCain/Palin 2008

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by: cheesehead @ Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 20:50:18 PM UTC

I MOSTLY AGREE (0.00 / 0)

That this is a rather weak claim.  

Notwithstanding, I'm documenting it as well, because even the most spurious claims are deserved so long as McCain doesn't take seriously the need of the country to know his health before the election.

I'm running what has now (unfortunately) become a series:

What Does Sarah Palin Know?
What Does Sarah Palin Know II?

QT

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by: QueenTiye @ Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 21:10:39 PM UTC

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Thank you ... (0.00 / 0)

... for writing about this.  

I had a conversation about three weeks ago with a friend of mine from the Air Force about Senator McCain.  We both thought it was odd that he continually invoked his Prisoner of War status, as if he was almost but not quite proud of it.  Neither of us knew anyone with a POW background who came off as Senator McCain does.  Most ex-POWs view having been a POW as either a circumstance of war or something to be ashamed of and not discussed.  

Before McCain, I have never heard of soldiers who were proud to have been captured, sailors who were proud to have had their ship sunk, or an airman who was proud to have been shot down.  There is something seriously wrong with this guy:

- his temper is legendary in the Senate

- his compulsive lying is on full display in this election

- he dumped his wife who stood by him while he was captive

- he aimed obscenities at his (current) wife

Does anyone know if he has ever sought mental health treatment?  I have often thought that he is fighting the Vietnam War over and over in his head.  His use of the word "prisoners" strengthens those thoughts.  I don't think he has ever recovered from the fact that we did not achieve an overwhelming victory and he did not come home to World War II style parades.  

In my view, he continues to mistake himself for the United States, Iraq for Vietnam, the Republican Party and their supporters -- those to whom he was speaking -- for the military and Vietnam War supporters, and the Democratic Party for all those who opposed our involvement in Southeast Asia in the 1960s.  More than struggling to be President, he is struggling to keep his own sanity because his -- and his forefathers' -- identity is tied to the military which never suffered a defeat before Vietnam.  I think he is still trying to comes to grips with that.  The rest of the country has long since moved on; he has not ... and can't.

I wonder what his medical records show.  Is he suffering from possible Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder?  Senility?  Alzheimers?  Just plain delusional?  Something else?  

Something isn't right here.  

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by: Airpower @ Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 21:06:31 PM UTC

Reagan and McCain wouldn't be the only ones (0.00 / 0)

who were Presidents that were propped up because they were senile or very sick at the ends of their terms.  Though these cases are always controversial because of the secrecy surrounding Pres. health.

Harding
FDR

And a few from the early days I can't remember for sure, but I think:
Buchanon
Jackson

And who knows if Grant was ever sober...

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by: the lurking ecologist @ Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 21:32:14 PM UTC

Or Nixon, for that matter (0.00 / 0)

"And who knows if Grant was ever sober..."


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."

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by: SpitBall @ Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 16:03:19 PM UTC

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He shows pretty clear signs (0.00 / 0)

of PTSD. I would bet the Ambein is to ward off nightmares. The anger management issues are part of his core personality, but PTSD would aggravate what was a tendency before.

Not really much evidence of dementia, He's pretty much right in line with the average of his age groups.

He's delusional only in as much as the GOP's mindset is delusional. I think it is, but since so many members of the public share it, it's not certifiable.

All in all, nothing clinical there. He's just a mean old man who wants to be president more than anything else, he's weighed the chances, and right now, he sees his only realistic hope in using any means necessary to discredit Obama. He blames conditions for not being conducive to his presidency, and blames Dems for the conditions. AND, HE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE at this point, and neither does Palin. She has no political career after this anywhere except Alaska, too much has already come out. A couple of rabid weasels denied the bone they want to chew by other weasels, that's about what it comes down to.

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by: Silence Doesnogood @ Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 21:32:28 PM UTC

there's no doubt (0.00 / 0)

in my mind that mccain has early dementia, what a ticket, a sicko and a wacko, gop elitism at its best, or maybe worst.

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by: pc @ Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 21:54:43 PM UTC

I've heard a lot (0.00 / 0)

of discussion of the possibility that McCrazy is suffering from dementia.  It would certainly explain why he is unable to comprehend his own record in the Senate and in his various campaigns. If he understood himself, would he be able to live with himself?  I doubt it.  Also, I find it instructive that McWhackjob's "hero" is Ronald Raygun, who was visibly suffering from Alzheimer's from sometime early in his first term.  I suppose if McSame were elected, we could expect him to take naps during cabinet meetings, as his "hero" the third-rate movie actor did.

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by: Querent @ Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 12:44:58 PM UTC

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