John McCain Forwards Obama Is a Muslim Terrorist Email

by: Matt Stoller

Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 14:47


Here's a bunch of Republicans at a Palin rally saying Obama's a terrorist.

And here's McCain's new web ad calling Obama a terrorist.

One of the most idiotic parts of our political dialogue is this pretense that the Republican Party leaders are disconnected from their base, a conceit held not only by journalists but also by high level Democratic elites.  While most of us get that we're playing in a partisan system, and the other side thinks our leaders are terrorists, a lot of people are 'surprised' and 'disappointed' in how John McCain has behaved.  And that's the point; Republican leaders agree with their base, a large and competently organized reactionary group of global warming denying nativists.  These people exist, they wear normal clothes, they shop at supermarkets, they use email to forward messages about how Democrats are terrorists, and they have cute kids.  And Republican leaders are doing what politicians do; they are representing this group.

Matt Stoller :: John McCain Forwards Obama Is a Muslim Terrorist Email
You can see this basic misconception at work all over.  The 'business' lobby is not 'pro-business', it is at this point simply a conservative political network.  The NRA is not in favor of second amendment rights or even 'pro-gun', it is a conservative organization seeking conservative political power.  Period.

Chuck Schumer, for instance, is only now criticizing the US Chamber of Commerce for its tens of millions of dollars of ads against Democrats, calling it nothing but a partisan group.  Of course it's a partisan group, in fact it's worse than that; these business groups are money laundering operations for right-wing corporate money into the electoral process, and it's been obvious for years.  They even have a nickname, the 'gang of 6', and work

In the first half of last year (the latest figures available), the chamber ranked first among all organizations in lobbying expenditures, at $30 million. The chamber also contributed more than $4 million to the November Fund, a group that attacked Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry for choosing a former trial lawyer, John Edwards, as his running mate. Today, the chamber is solidly in the black, its $150 million annual budget triple what it was when Donohue took over. It also is staunchly Republican in most of its legislative positions and played a pivotal role in cutting the tax on dividends and approving free-trade pacts, among many other Bush priorities. Whenever the president or his people called, the chamber assembled coalitions of like-minded groups and contacted its 3 million member firms to step up political pressure and donate lobbying-related funds....

For the 2004 elections, the chamber dispersed 215 political operatives to 31 states, mailed 3.7 million letters to targeted voters, made 5.6 million phone calls and sent 30 million e-mails to persuade pro-business voters to go to the polls.

This is part and parcel of the Republican Party, just as McCain is returning home by calling Obama a terrorist.  The whole concept that Republican leaders are different than their base exists in the minds of Democratic leaders and media elites simply because they have disdain for their base, whether that base is Democratic activists and voters or highly engaged readers with enough gall to criticize their work as journalists.

So John McCain thinks Obama is a terrorist.  That's not a surprise.  That's what Republicans believe, and John McCain is a Republican.


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I'm almost glad they pulled the trigger on this. (4.00 / 4)
It's time to show the dark underbelly of conservative ideology. We've got Palin saying it. We've got John McCain approving these messages. This will forever destroy the "McCain is an honorable Maverick." BS. He's already lost his media base, and he'll have a hell of a time contending without them. The more disgusting his attacks are, the more it'll turn people away.

This election is our chance to quit coasting on the accomplishments of the New Deal coalition and kill off conservatism for another generation.

What Kos said:

And I'll be honest with you -- I want them to hurt as much as we did. I want their spirits crushed, their backs broken.

So the way we do that is we deliver a defeat worse than they every imagined. We do that by winning states that have no business turning Blue -- like North Carolina, Georgia, Indiana, and so on -- states that were easy Bush victories in 2004. We do that by electing a 60-seat supermajority in the Senate. We do that by defeating their leadership, like Mitch McConnell in the Senate. We do that by defeating their heroes, like wingnut go-to hero John Shadegg. We do that by making sure a record number of Americans reject conservative ideology, leaving it utterly discredited.

The day after the election, I want to see an electoral battlefield littered with defeated Republicans, their ranks demoralized, their treasury in heavy debt, and no real leadership to take the helm. I want a vacuum so complete, that a bloody leadership battle between the neocons, theocons, and corporate cons shakes the GOP to its core, and leaves it fractured and ill-equipped to stymie the progressive agenda, much less ramp up for an even bleaker (for them) 2010.

Go donate and volunteer. Let's bring this thing home.

The truth about John McCain.


A OpenLeft Organized Action? (4.00 / 2)
I know a lot of local and lower-visibility bloggers have already been on the scene, but has anyone thought of making this an organized project?

What I mean is something similar to google-bomb or whatever - an systematic attempt to document, catalog (e.g. a youtube page or a particular site), and press release/chain mail the hate being amplified at McCain events.

I get the sense that this is not the sort of thing McCain/Palin want "above ground" because this sort of talk turns off most sane people and might push independents away from him even further.

Anyways, apologies if someone already had this idea.


Damn you grammar (0.00 / 0)
"An OpenLeft..."

d'oh.


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A general anti-GOP ad would be nice (4.00 / 3)
It would be great if some 527 put together an ad that starts by saying 'The faces of the Republican party' and then shows a montage of these sorts of comments and those at the McCain and Palin rallies where the two of them seem to bask in the hate.  The ad could end by asking, 'Would you vote with these people? Would you vote for hatred and racism?'

I think its time the true face of the Republican voter was made public.  I am tired of the stereotype about Democrats all being drugged-out hippies, when the reality is the Republican electorate is made up in large part of people like these.  Maybe we can shame a few of them into waking up and maybe a few young people will hear their parents' voices in these clips and shift their attitudes away from this racist, hate-filled ideology.


I think you play this... (0.00 / 0)
with the erratic and out of touch attacks. You can get plenty of pundits saying how the attacks are lies, deplorable, dishonorable and that sort of thing. Then you comment on how McCain is wasting time on such dishonorable attacks while real Americans are losing their jobs and their homes.

The truth about John McCain.

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Obama's current approach... (4.00 / 6)
...is to call McCain a coward for not saying these things directly to Obama, for instance at the debate the other night.  Biden picked up on that line of attack again today.  

It seems fairly promising: if they can get the media onboard, then McCain might be painting himself into a corner of almost having to confront Obama with it at the last debate, or else risk being branded an outright coward, in addition to all the already low opinion the media has of him.  But, of course, McCain wants no part of directly confronting Obama with these attacks at the debate, as evidenced by his chickening out two nights ago.


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Good point. (4.00 / 2)
I think if Obama said something like "I think it is cowardly to offer these outrageous and dishonorable attacks on my character, but not have the integrity to say it to my face." at the next debate, McCain would fly off the handle. It would be checkmate. Obama would benefit by going on the attack about this at the next debate.

The truth about John McCain.

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I'd still love a riff on Bentsen/Quayle and "My friends". (0.00 / 0)
Something like "We keep hear you talk about 'your friends' in reference to the American people. Senator McCain, I know the American people, the American people are friends of mine and you are no friend of theirs". Kills several birds with one stone. They started something like that in the summer saying McCain's "friends" were all lobbyists but nothing since.

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Why is the South (2.00 / 2)
again spearheading the split of the Union?

I say let them go; and then beggar them.


uhhh...what? (4.00 / 6)
Im sorry, but your prejudice is pretty disgusting.

That video was from an event in Ohio.  And right now Obama is leading in both VA and NC.  In fact, according to many polls, Obama has a bigger lead in VA than in MN.

We don't need more hate to "counter" the Palin hate.

"Keep the Faith"


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The South (4.00 / 1)
I don't hate the South, but I hate any person who waves a Confederate flag and then questions my patriotism.

"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra

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Do you really believe this crap? (4.00 / 1)
Because of you do you're worse than they are.

The South is like every other part of the country. We've got our nutwad brigade, we've got our fiscal GOP'ers, and we're got a large minority of Democrats, approaching 46 percent or more in several Southern states, including Georgia.

This is the BOTTOM 10%, the military supernationalist 10%, and it's there even up there where you all live. My first wife's father is a Michigan farmer who got involved with his local paramilitary group. Then my brother-in-law, who later died in Iraq, married a German woman with a Hitler Youth Nazi father. I had to hear all about the Jews who stole all the food out of the mouths of the beautiful Aryan babies every time I visited. This was in a town 90 minutes from Detroit, 90 minutes from Chicago, 90 minutes from Toledo, an hour away from Fort Wayne, you get the idea. It ain't the South, it's the idiots.


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Same As It Ever Was (4.00 / 5)
I've posted about this before. These two charts are from a 1964 survey reported in the 1967 book, by Lloyd Free and Hadley Cantril , The Political Beliefs of Americans: A Study of Public Opinion.  First in an overall indication of opposition to power-sharing with those outside the WASP establishment:

Next is a breakdown of opposing attitudes by operational spectrum, which is determined by support (liberal) or opposition (conservative) to a range of social spending items:

At the time, the vast majority of blacks in America either could not vote, or could not influence an election, even if they could vote.  They held five seats in Congress, all in Northern states, all in majorityh-black districts:

   * William Levi Dawson (Democrat, IL)
   * Charles Coles Diggs, Jr. (Democrat, MI)
   * Augustus Freeman (Gus) Hawkins (Democrat, CA)
   * Robert Nelson Cornelius Nix, Sr. (Democrat, PA)
   * Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. (Democrat, NY)

But that was too much influence for a plurality of all Americans, and for a landslide majority of those in the conservative base.

As far as these folks are concerned, democracy = "terrorism", because they are terrified of it.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


Man... (0.00 / 0)
Maybe my call for an ad firmly putting racism on the Republican electorate isn't such a good idea.  While I doubt today's numbers would be anywhere near that, I now fear that quarter of Democrats might actually watch that ad and go vote Republican.  

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Indeed. (4.00 / 1)
Unfortunately, if winning hearts and minds is the goal, the last thing you want to do is call out white people on their racism.  Nothing sends us into defensive backtracking hissy fits quite like having to acknowledge and confront our privilege.

You owe it to yourself to listen to This American Life's fantastic and common-sense explanation of the economic crisis.

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No Honor (4.00 / 1)
That John McCain did this ad shows how low and crude he truly is.  He is without honor and democrats should stop saying he has any.  

I sincerely hope that this tarnishes the Republican brand so much that it is relagated to a minority party (at best) forever.

McCain on the minimum wage


How can I trust McCain to get bin Laden (4.00 / 3)
If he doesn't even know what a terrorist is?

John McCain opposes the GI Bill.

Because he has a secret plan. nt. (0.00 / 0)


The truth about John McCain.

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But, but, but.... (0.00 / 0)
Cindy disagrees....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...

I guess she wears earplugs when Parah Salin speaks.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


None of this is particularly new (0.00 / 0)
Florida 2000 a prime example and the shit the angry mobs pulled down there during the recount.

Angry mobs... (4.00 / 3)
More like paid staffers.  That was just a bunch of RNC employees paid to go down there and act like a mob.

Although its pretty telling how hard it is for us (and the media at the time) to tell the difference between RNC employees and an actual mob.

"Keep the Faith"


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i run into people (4.00 / 1)
like this now and then during my normal daily life, i don't attack or insult them. but i remember who they are and what they stand for, ignorance, bigotry, racism, hatred of others, general un-american activities and attitudes.

this type of individual is not worthy of the respect or civil discourse from their opposition since they don't extend the same to anyone with a different opinion, if the left treated the right with the same disgusting attacks and threats they promote some on the left would be in jail for the same actions, but since we live in a con rw society they are allowed to continue this boorish, unethical, and immoral behavior.

four letter words are no way to explain you frustration, but in this case i will make an exception and use one to describe my opinion of those on the extreme right in america, if it damages their sensibilities i apologize but they are scum, nothing more nothing less and america would be a better place without them and their hateful political and social agenda.

get a pair dems because the right is ruining america and you are complicit in the destruction of our democracy because of your silence.  


Every now and then? (0.00 / 0)
This is like every single person in my family, and every single person who comes into my restaurant and coos over how "amazing" and "remarkable" Sarah Palin is.  It's enough to make you lose all faith in humanity.  I can't wait until all of them have to eat shit for four years.

You owe it to yourself to listen to This American Life's fantastic and common-sense explanation of the economic crisis.

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A Case in Point (4.00 / 2)
Anyone interested in the likely impact of Sarah Palin and the emergence of an outspoken, nativist, xenophobic minority on the Republican party in coming years might consider the Pauline Hanson phenomenon in Australian politics nearly a decade ago as a case study.  The parallels are chilling.  The short story is she aroused a virulent constituency and provided them with a public platform and 'know-nothing,' populist legitimacy which at once threatened the coalition of the conservative Liberals and forced them into toxic reactionary policy on issues of immigration and entitlements for many years, dragging helpless moderate conservatives along with them.

Eventually Hanson formed an activist splinter 'One Nation' party, which, though unlikely in the US analogy, was only dismantled when the two dominant parties conspired to redistribute her electorate and neutered her through a benign gerrymander.  The whole episode remains one of the darker periods of Australian politics in recent years and created tensions in the electorate, and the citizenry as a whole, which exacerbated racial and cultural tensions down to the present day.  


This has been happening all over Europe, too. (4.00 / 1)


"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra

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True... (4.00 / 1)
And I see it as a dying gasp of nativism and reactionary cultural politics, but it's ugly, divisive and painful nonetheless.  In the European model there seems to be some continuity with long-standing nationalist and culturalist movements.  In Hanson's case she came out of nowhere with alarming rapidity.  The Hanson parallel to Palin is particularly relevant, it seems, from the remarkably parallel political careers, and rhetoric, of the two respective protagonists.  Sound familiar?:


Hanson positioned herself "not as a polished politician but as a woman who has had her fair share of life's knocks", and with views based on "commonsense, and my experience as a mother of four children, as a sole parent, and as a businesswoman running a fish and chip shop."

Pauline Hanson Wikipedia

It was a most unpleasant episode and held much greater ideological risks for the established conservative party but in the end was equally distressing to both.  I could see Palin becoming the focal point for a similar faction within the Republican party in the ruins of their defeat.


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Don't agree. (4.00 / 1)
I don't think McCain (or any other Republican Senator, except Inhofe) thinks Obama is a terrorist.  I think they all think that Obama made an unforced error by being at all tied to Bill Ayers, and that this unforced error is one of the only ones in his entire career that might be useful to shave a point or two off his lead in the last month, particularly in Ohio.  Wright would be useful too, but the longterm blowback from using him would be pretty severe.

The premise that Republican Senators are substantially identical to the Republican base I don't agree with.  There's probably 30 Republicans in the House that that might be true of, and a good many more in both chambers who are actual wingnuts (believe in odd things, like the Rapture, and convenient things, like cyclical climates) but who are not so empty-headed that they'll believe anything (Obama is a Muslim, or a terrorist).

And your case against the Chamber of Commerce is perfectly valid.  But I don't see why you'd try to argue, in all apparent seriousness, that the GOP senators are substantially identical to the GOP base.  If you are making your case in seriousness, then in seriousness, I don't agree.


If these McCain campaign and/or other GOP Senators (4.00 / 1)
Do not believe that Senator Obama is a terrorist, and do not support the use of these kind of attacks to "stir up" the base - then why has there been absolutely NO CONDEMNATION of or distancing from the "comments" that these attacks elicit from the McCain supporters at the rallys?  You know, shouts of, "Kill him!", or "terrorist!" that can be clearly heard in response to Palin and McCain talking about Obama's relationship to Ayers.

They have condoned these sentiments among McCain supporters with their deafening silence.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
Desperation (4.00 / 1)
The middle class has fled, all McCain has is the nasty dregs to build on right now. The GOP financial base doesn't do public events, and they've been screening out all but true believers in the way Rove taught them to. Palin is really and truly of this group, she's a stupid malignant racist troll. McCain is working with what he's got.

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So the GOP base (4.00 / 1)
doesn't really realize who they are voting for? And the fact that they are such ardent Republicans is only because they've identified themselves to be that way and were never persuaded by the GOP DC establishment to form this allegiance?  

[ Parent ]
Although, you might be more right than I thought. (0.00 / 0)
McCain just called Dodd and Frank "willing co-conspirators" in the mortgage crisis.  That does shock me, honestly.  Following Rolling Stone, I'm concluding that McCain is a lot more stupid, self-righteous, and self-absorbed than I thought.  

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