Presidential Forecast 10/12: 23 Days To Go

by: Chris Bowers

Sun Oct 12, 2008 at 15:40


Electoral College: Obama 338, McCain 169 Toss-up 31 (270 to win)
National popular vote: Obama 50.2%--41.9% McCain


(Dark Blue (280): Obama +7.0% or more
Lean Blue (58): Obama +2.6%-+6.9%
White / Toss-up (31): Obama +2.5% to McCain +2.5%
Lean Red (26): McCain +2.6%-+6.9%
Dark Red (143): McCain +7.0% or more
)

Only 23 days left, and Obama's lead is still secure. Importantly, he is at 280 "solid" electoral votes, which means he leads states worth 280 electoral votes by 7.0% or more.

Why is 7.0% an important number? According to a study I performed back in June that tested the methodlology I am currently using, a look at the 42 Senate, Governor and Presidential swing state campaigns decided by 10.0% or less since 2004 revealed that no final-week polling average had ever been off by more than 7.0%. In fact, only one average was off by more than 5.75% (the 2004 Kentucky Senate race), and only four were off by more than 4.2%. So, when a simple, statewide polling mean in a general election shows someone ahead by 7.0% or more, you can take it to the bank. A lead of this size will always hold up on Election Day.

The reason I choose 2.5% as the cut-off point for states to be either "Leaning" toward one party or to be "Toss-ups," is that the study showed that only 11 of the 42 elections in question had polling averages that were off by more than 2.5%. Since the error could turn in either direction, a lead of 2.6% or more indicates a 73 in 84 chance of victory, or roughly 85%. So, it is a good shot, but not a complete lock. The average error in the study was 2.0%, indicating that a state is still a toss-up at a margin of 2.0%.

I point this out to indicate just how solid Obama's lead is right now. With 280 electoral votes at 7.3% or greater, I would estimate his chances at victory to be well over 99%. State by state details in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Presidential Forecast 10/12: 23 Days To Go
Solid Obama: 280 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
California 55 54.7% 40.7% +14.0% 3
Colorado 9 51.3% 44.0% +7.3% 3
Connecticut 7 52.7% 37.3% +15.4% 3
Delaware 3 54.3% 38.0% +16.3% 3
D.C. 3 82.0% 13.0% +69.0% 1
Hawaii 4 65.5% 29.5% +36.0% 2
Illinois 21 55.0% 37.7% +17.3% 3
Iowa 7 53.3% 41.0% +12.3% 3
Maine-AL* 2 50.7% 41.7% +9.0% 3
Maine-01* 1 -- -- +12.2% 0
Maryland 10 55.3% 38.0% +17.3% 3
Massachusetts 12 56.0% 38.7% +17.3% 3
Michigan 17 50.3% 40.0% +10.3% 3
Minnesota 10 51.0% 43.7% +7.3% 3
New Hampshire 4 52.7% 42.7% +10.0% 3
New Jersey 15 50.0% 40.0% +10.0% 4
New York 31 56.3% 38.5% +17.8% 4
Oregon 7 53.0% 41.0% +12.0% 3
Pennsylvania 21 53.5% 40.0% +13.5% 4
Rhode Island 4 46.7% 30.3% +16.4% 3
Vermont 3 58.7% 35.7% +23.0% 3
Washington 11 52.3% 43.3% +9.0% 3
Wisconsin 10 52.0% 43.3% +8.7% 4
Virginia 13 51.3% 43.3% +8.0% 4

Lean Obama: 58 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Florida 27 49.8% 45.3% +4.5% 4
Maine-02* 1 -- -- +5.8% 0
Nevada 5 49.3% 45.7% +3.6% 3
New Mexico 5 48.7% 42.7% +6.0% 3
Ohio 20 48.5% 45.8% +2.7% 8

Toss-up: 31 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Missouri 11 48.3% 48.0% +0.3% 3
North Carolina 15 48.0% 46.8% +1.2% 6
West Virginia 5 46.0% 47.3% -1.3% 3

Lean McCain: 26 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Georgia 15 44.7% 51.0% -6.3% 3
Indiana 11 44.0% 49.0% -5.0% 3

Solid McCain: 158 Electoral Votes
State EV's Obama % McCain % Margin # Polls
Alabama 9 36.0% 62.0% -26.0% 3
Alaska 3 38.3% 55.0% -16.7% 3
Arizona 10 38.3% 53.3% -15.0% 3
Arkansas 6 41.5% 52.0% -10.5% 2
Idaho 4 29.0% 66.0% -37.0% 3
Kansas 6 36.7% 58.0% -21.3% 3
Kentucky 8 40.3% 54.0% -13.7% 3
Louisiana 9 41.5% 52.5% -13.3% 2
Mississippi 6 40.7% 53.0% -12.3% 3
Montana 3 42.7% 51.3% -8.7% 3
Nebraska-AL** 2 35.5% 58.0% -22.5% 2
Nebraska-01** 1 -- -- -16.5% 0
Nebraska-02** 1 -- -- -11.5% 0
Nebraska-03** 1 -- -- -40.5% 0
North Dakota 3 41.3% 53.3% -12.0% 3
Oklahoma 7 33.3% 62.5% -28.8% 4
South Carolina 8 39.3% 55.0% -15.7% 3
South Dakota 3 38.0% 54.5% -16.5% 2
Tennessee 11 38.0% 53.7% -15.7% 3
Texas 34 40.5% 55.5% -15.0% 2
Utah 5 28.3% 63.7% -35.4% 3
Wyoming 3 34.3% 60.3% -26.0% 3

* Maine's four electoral votes are awarded as follows: two for the statewide winner, and one for the winner of each congressional district. ME-01 is about 3.2% more Democratic than the state as a whole, while ME-02 is about 3.2% less Democratic than the state as a whole.

** Nebraska's five electoral votes are awarded as follows: two for the statewide winner, and one for the winner of each congressional district. NE-01 is about 6.0% more Democratic than the state as a whole, NE-02 is about 11.0% more Democratic than the state as a whole, and NE-03 is about 18.0% less Democratic than the state as a whole.

Methodology
The forecast is updated whenever there are enough new polls to warrant an update. The methodology for the forecast is simple and straightforward.

  1. For each state, all polls with the majority of their interviews condcuted within the last 7 days from publication of the forecast are included in the averages. There are some necessary exceptions to this rule.
  2. Every state has at least three polls, so the first exception are states without three polls that meet the previous criteria. In the event that three polls taken within the past week are not available, the three most recent polls are used. (Note: "Most recent" is determined by the mid-point in the dates of the polls. For example, a poll taken from 9/15-9/17 has a mid-pint of 9/16. In the event that more than one poll shares the most recent mid-point (within 0.5), all polls with that mid-point are included in the average.)
  3. The second exception comes with polling firms that have conducted more than two poll in a state over the last 7 days. Every polling firm only has one poll per average.
  4. No polling firm discrimination whatsoever. Polls are never excluded because the organization has a bad or partisan reputation.
  5. No pre-September polls. I'm just sick of including them.

During the final two weeks of the election, only polls taken entirely within the past seven days will be included in the averages (with the same exceptions listed above, of course).


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Chris is an optimism troll (4.00 / 1)

 I reserve the wright to wring my hands at the tiniest tick in McCain's direction! :)

 Just an anecdote -- last night I joined my wingnutty parents, two wingnutty brothers, and one wingnutty sister-in-law for dinner, and they've all thrown in the towel on the election. They don't like Obama but they're very angry with McCain's "weak" campaign, and they think it's over.

 I just bit my lip -- lots can happen in three weeks, remember we all thought Hillary was inevitable, the RNC smears have barely begun, etc. -- but it did feel pretty nice for them to avoiding the political talk for a change...  

 

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


7.3% is really irrelevant (0.00 / 0)
Chris, your cut-off of 2.5% (rolling average) is MUCH more likely to be the significant margin to look at because there are a lot more Presidential polls, so the rolling average is much more accurate.

You can't compare Senatorial and Governors races because they are MUCH less well polled than a national race.So the margin of error in Senate/Governors' races is bound to be much higher.

For instance, in Colorado Senate race we have 1 poll this month (PPP) which shows Udall with a 10% lead. That might be accurate, but how do we really know what's going on with only 1 poll during the entire financial meltdown? We can guess it helps Democrats like Udall, but that's a guess without much hard data.

Suppose the financial disaster had favored Republicans? The race might well have moved in favor of Bob Shaffer (R) in the Colorado Senate race, but nobody would know because there just wasn't any polling.

So, comparing Presidential polling and Governor/Senate polling is like comparing apples and oranges.

That means that unless McCain could somehow pick up about 5-6% in the next 3 weeks he has NO chance at all. None. A 2.5% Obama lead in the polling average going into the election would almost certainly mean a popular vote win.

A 4% margin will almost guarantee an electoral college win (remember that Bush won by 2.4% but only won Ohio by a little over 100,000 votes and could conceivably have lost the election despite a 2.3% popular vote margin).

A 6-8% lead like right now, would mean a landslide of 375 EV or more.  


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Good position, but... (0.00 / 0)
As you mentioned, you studied final week of polling vs. final result.  We're still just over 3 weeks out, and while Obama would very clearly win if the election were held today, a lot can still happen in 3 weeks.

Still, it's nice that early voting has started in a lot of places, with more coming up soon, while Obama enjoys this kind of lead.  Hopefully Obama can lock in some of the more soft supporters in early voting, so that his hard support can come home through election day.


isn't that reversed? hard supporters first then soft (0.00 / 0)
Don't hard core supporters vote first? I am happy that Obama is up by this much 3 weeks out but I wish it were two weeks later!

I do think it is useful that so many places allow early voting (absentee voting).

I'm voting (naked!) in California this weekend by filling out my absentee ballot.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Mad Professah Lectures


Yes, but that's my point... (0.00 / 0)
Hard supporters do typically vote first, but it's to your electoral advantage to lock in soft supporters first if you can.  The reason is, obviously, that soft supporters could still theoretically change their mind or just not vote, while hard supporters will definitely vote no matter what.

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It looks like it should be 280 solid Obama, 58 lean Obama (0.00 / 0)
Unless I'm missing something.

You are correct (0.00 / 0)
I was counting Colorado as 7 in some places, thus making erros.

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Iowa and swing states (0.00 / 0)
I'm still amazed at Obama's remarkable lead in Iowa.

I think the big surprise this election has been the new swing states. Not CO and VA, which we all saw coming, but IN and NC. If you had asked me to pick what two surprise states would be battlegrounds this election, neither would have been in my top 10. I would have picked TX or SD before IN. Hell, I would have picked Arizona before Indiana. I guess it goes to show that the map can change in unpredictable ways, despite what preceding elections would lead us to believe.  

"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra


Really, most states are right where you'd expect them to be. (0.00 / 0)
Kerry won states like NH, PA, MI, MN, and WI by 0-3 points, and he lost IA and NM by less than 1% in each case, I believe. So given that Obama is running about 10 points ahead of where Kerry ended up (+7.5 or so vs. - 2.5), you'd expect all those states to be at about +10 for Obama. And sure enough, that's about where most of them are. CO and FL, too, are about where you'd expect it, based on 2004 - about 2% more Republican than the country as a whole.

NC is a mild surprise - you'd expect it to be favoring McCain by 3 or 4 points, based on the 2004 result. And I agree IN is the biggest surprise - McCain ought to be ahead there by almost 10%, and he's clearly not.

But another surprising state is Ohio. It was slightly more favorable to Kerry than the country as a whole, so you'd expect Obama to be ahead there by 7 or 8 points. So Ohio might actually be one of Obama's relatively weakest states.


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Colorado is about 2% AHEAD of Obama's polling average! (0.00 / 0)
According to Nate Silver's analysis of polling averages: www.fivethirtyeight.com.

Pollster.com's average for Colorado: 6.3% currently. It might be that as Obama surges, Colorado lags because earlier during McCain's convention bounce, he didn't lose as much ground here as in other battleground states like Florida, Ohio or Pennsylvania.  


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Still a shot (0.00 / 0)
"I would estimate his chances at victory to be well over 99%."

Lloyd Christmas:  What are the chances of a guy like you and a girl like me ending up together?

Mary Swanson: Not good.

Lloyd Christmas: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?

Mary Swanson: I'd say more like one out of a million.

Lloyd Christmas: [pause]  So you're telling me there's a chance. YES!


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