Black Enlistment Crashes in Military

by: Matt Stoller

Fri Aug 24, 2007 at 09:00


Blacks are not signing up for the military.

Joining the Reserve Officer Training Corps was once an attractive choice for people with few options growing up in impoverished, predominantly black East Baltimore. That has all changed, largely because of the war in Iraq.

"Now, it is like, no way," said Cornelius McMurray, who does outreach with a local church and says the young black people he works with view life in Baltimore as enough of a war. "It is a continuous fight waking up and walking the streets every day."

In the Bronx, Adeyefa Finch says he simply walks past the recruiters who, seeking out minority members along Fordham Road, make the case that the military can help with college financing and job placement after they serve. "I'm not really into going overseas with guns and fighting other people's wars," said Mr. Finch, 18, headed to college this fall to study accounting.

That kind of rejection of military service as an option of young blacks throughout the country has resulted in a sharp drop in black recruitment figures since the war began. Defense Department reports show that the share of blacks among active-duty recruits declined to 13 percent in 2006 from 20 percent in 2001, the last year before the invasion of Iraq began to seem inevitable...

In a recent CBS News telephone poll, 83 percent of the blacks surveyed said the United States should have stayed out of Iraq; only 14 percent said it had done the right thing in taking military action. Whites, by contrast, were closely divided: 48 percent said military action had been right, and 46 percent said the United States should have stayed out. The poll was conducted Aug. 8-12 with 1,214 adults nationwide and had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

The poll numbers show up in the daily hardships of recruiters trained by Sgt. First Class Abdul-Malik Muhammad, based in Birmingham, Ala. "With blacks, there is not really a great support for the war," Sergeant Muhammad said, recalling one prospective recruit who was told by his parents that they would sever all ties with him if he enlisted.

My read on this is that there's a deep sense of betrayal within the African-American community that parallels what's going on in the activist base of the party in general.  I took a glance at the drops in polling support for a variety of Democrats over the past month or two, and the drop is concentrated among liberals and African-Americans.  At the same time, there's a deep sense of frustration with current black leadership centered in two areas.  One, many opinion leaders in the hip hop community are deeply embittered by the civil rights generation of leaders and media stars like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Oprah that chide Hip Hop culture without speaking to the real concern in their music, communities, and expression.  And two, the middle class emerging black activist class is furious with failures of the political leadership, represented both by the political leaders themselves and institutions like the NAACP and the Urban League that aren't capturing the newer generation.  There's obviously overlap here, and I'm probably simplifying these trends dramatically.

It's still interesting, though, how this parallels what's going on with the new progressive movement on the blogs.  We're part of a newer irony-infused culture, and we're constantly told by our progressive elders that we're too angry, controversial, or informal.  We don't relate to traditional liberal institutions like unions or mass membership organizations like the ACLU, and our leaders tend to disappoint us on a regular basis.  Permeating all of this is Iraq and the breakdown of trust in Republican governance.  Anyway, I don't have tremendous insight here, but there are a lot of opportunities and I figured I'd point out that there's ferment all over the place.

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American Quebecois? (0.00 / 0)
In Canada, Quebecers have traditionally been the most reluctant to go to war, which though in specific instances can seem annoying when the cause seems very just, but overall is a wonderful counterweight to our politics.  It's largely what kept us out of Vietnam and Iraq.

It seems American blacks are starting to fill that roll in the US.  In the past they couldn't since whites frankly didn't give a shit if blacks joined the military (or didn't want them to at all).  Now with full integration, the loss of a visible minority community is notable. 


I suspect if Obama ISN'T on the Dem Ticket (0.00 / 0)
Black voters will stay home in DROVES.

I think (4.00 / 1)
you need some evidence to support that.  For one thing, Hillary Clinton is immensely popular among African Americans, especially women.  For another thing, they turned out for Al Gore and John Kerry.  I don't know what kind of mass disillusionment would have to have happened since 06 that would make a significant portion of African Americans stay home.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.

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Evidence (0.00 / 0)
cuz the times they are a'changing.

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Not really (0.00 / 0)
a suspicion by definition comes with little or no evidence. And the commenter has a suspicion.

John McCain opposes the GI Bill.

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And I am AA (0.00 / 0)
and step back on Hillary Clinton.  She is alright, but her husband signed that dreadful crime bill, that to this day impacts the African American Community.  We are skeptical of all these politicians, because they don't give a damn and only come sniffin' around our pool when they need a vote.  And Barack Obama is making in-roads with Black Americans and if he wins Iowa or NH, all the AA skeptics will vote for him full force.

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Whites are just beginning to catch up with blacks (0.00 / 0)
........when it comes to understanding the "truthiness" of the traditional media and our government. Look at the difference between blacks and whites in the CBS poll--83 percent of the blacks think we never should have gone to Iraq, whereas 48 percent of the whites thought military action had been right.

So what made black people so much smarter than white people? I mean, hello?Weren't  black people supposed to be  so much less educated than white folks, so much more disadvantaged and cut off?

But black people learned a long time ago that the traditional media is full of bullshit and that the government lies. White people were still far more trusting.

By the way, I'm a white girl (who used to live in the City of Detroit, thank you). Sometimes when I'm furious about how the traditional media ignores all the real stuff that's happening, how the media has its designated "experts" and ignores all others......I remember that this is exactly what has been happening to black folks in this country for generations. I'm just coming late to the game and the realization.


Yup (0.00 / 0)
The lack of faith in government and media is nothing new for anyone except (some) whites.

John McCain opposes the GI Bill.

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Disconnect (4.00 / 2)
This is not really surprising to me at all regarding the lake of military support within my community. I notice alot of commentators on shows who are black such as Harold Ford, John Ridley, even Al Sharpton sometimes don't really represent the views of the majority of blacks. This is especially clear regarding the Hip/hop thing since a lot of the times anyone talks about it, it is negative. If you listen to commentators on TV with regard to hip/hop, you'd believe that All the world's and black folks ills come from hip/hop. In Atlanta now, they are trying to ban saggy pants. What types of message does it send when crime is going up and you are talking about sagging pants? There is a big problem going on in our community where real issues are getting ignored while or so-called leaders keep occupied or the news is occupied with M.Vick, sagging jeans, and hip/hop.

My brother believes the same thing regarding blacks and Obama not getting the nomination. I don't think black folks will stay away in droves if Obama doesn't get the nomination. I think if he does get the nomination then black folks will flock to the polls in droves but if not about the same amount of black folks will vote. Most of the people who I hear talking about not voting for anyone but Barack(and saying it's racist if he is not the nominee) are not really going to the polls anyway, they won't be there in the primary election but in the general election they'd definitely be at the polls.


I respected hip hop a lot more in 1992 or so (0.00 / 0)
when it seemed to actually talk about political issues.  The homophobia and mysogony needs to stop before I even begin to take mainstream hip hop seriously.  Not to say that TV commentators aren't overblown about it, because it is, but at the same time, those messages are not acceptable any more than the racist crap that you see thrown out there.

As far as the people saying that they won't vote for anyone but Obama in the general, but who don't vote in the primary--why not?  I don't get why you would vote for him in the general but not in the primary.  The other way around makes more sense to me.


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Because ... (0.00 / 0)
... fewer people vote in the primary.

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The difference since '92 (4.00 / 2)
Is that there's now a for-profit industry for hip hop.  Like Saul Williams said-

Exactly how much is it gonna cost to free Mumia?
What's he gonna do with his freedom? Talk on the radio?
Radio programming is just that - a brainwashin' gleamed of purpose
To be honest, some freedom of speech makes me nervous

John McCain opposes the GI Bill.


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You Might Be Overthinking This (0.00 / 0)
The simple explanation is that black people just hate hate hate George W. Bush.  While some of what you say is true, African-Americans just don't like to president.

Consider some polling done after the 2006 mid-term elections.  Only 33% of black Protestants (an overwhelmingly Democratic group) wanted Congress to work with President Bush when even a plurality of seculars said they wanted it.

Events like Hurricane Katrina have fueled outrage against specifically Bush, and to a lesser extent the Republican Party, that if we wanted to, we could make up plausible-sounding lies about Bush and the black community would eat it up like conservatives consuming Fox News.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both


Why is institutional racism blamed on Black leaders? (0.00 / 0)
With regard to this foolish comment in your link to one of the rappers:  "I'll slap the f**k out of Jesse Jackson's son. I can't lay hands on Jesse Jackson because I believe in respecting my elders, but I'll f**k Jesse Jackson's son up."

He might want to rethink that threat.  Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. is extremely good at the martial arts.

Since I was part of the Jackson Presidential campaigns in the 1980s, I might also mention that they were the most successful, radical, insurgent primary campaigns ever.  In 1988, Rev. Jackson won 13 caucuses & primaries (including very white states like Alaska and Vermont); led the field at the end of March (until the Establishment rallied to fend him off); and won 1,218.5 delegates to the Miami Convention--with not much money.  Jackson throughout his life has also registered more new voters than probably anyone alive.  Yet he has never been fully accepted into the D.C. crowd, never been invited to play a leadership role in national campaigns, and never honored by the party that directly benefitted--and still benefits today--from his work.  (For just one example--think about the fact that Jim Webb won Virginia by a few thousand votes last year--the winning margin clearly came from African-American voters that were originally registered as Democrats during Jackson's 1984 and 1988 campaigns, as he carried Virginia both times.  The Senate is not in Mitch McConnell's hands today partly because several million African Americans were registered to vote, inspired by Jesse Jackson's campaigns back in the '80s.)

The destructive legacy of slavery & Jim Crow remains with us, but I'm not exactly sure why OpenLeft thinks the failure to overcome those centuries of evil falls squarely on the shoulders of Black leaders.  Is it, say, Jesse's fault that much of the Congress has left New Orleans hanging, two years after Katrina?  African Americans were smarter about the war than Whites from the very beginning--and remember, both Rev. Jackson and Al Sharpton marched at the antiwar rallies in 2002, before Bush started the war--and have continued to march, at every rally since then.


What the hell? (0.00 / 0)
There are a couple legitimate nuggets in there in between commentary on Jesse Jackson Jr.'s martial arts skills, but you're really saying that African American voters registered in the 80s swung Virginia's Senate race in 2006? What were they doing in all the previous Senate races? They just finally chose Reagan's Secretary of the Navy to get excited about?

Is that an incredibly important piece of Virginia's move towards Democrats, that isn't what swung the Senate race. It was the new voters as a result of the rapid expansion of Northern Virginia that tipped things.

John McCain opposes the GI Bill.


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Jesse Jackson of course leaves a legacy of sainthood (0.00 / 0)
However, I'm not sure that I would declare the CBC of today as particularly radical or insurgent.  They have cut their deals and rest on their laurels.

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both are true (0.00 / 0)
Lucas--why can't both things be true?  When you win by only a few thousand votes, it is usually the case that many factors paved the way for that victory.  In this case, I certainly agree with your point that the changing demographics and political tilt of northern Virginia made a huge difference.  But why does that require you to dismiss the obvious point that a vastly enlarged African American electorate in Virginia--which Jackson clearly helped to register during the '80s--also helped win the election?  Seems pretty noncontroversial to me.  My point was to show briefly the value that the Jackson family has brought to progressive politics, after a post that linked to a rapper who threatened to punch Jackson's son out--I can only imagine the reader response if, say, there had been a link to a rapper threatening to punch Howard Dean's son out...And let me be very clear--neither Jackson's son nor Dean's son should be punched out--though I repeat, I doubt Jackson's son would be...

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