Versailles vs. America: "Center-Right Nation" Edition

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sun Nov 09, 2008 at 14:05


David's done yoeman's work here-and elsewhere-documenting the pernicious Versailles meme that despite the stunning victory won by Obama and Democrats running for Congress, America "remains a center-right nation" and therefore Obama must not enact his planned agenda.  I finally got to the end of the 98-page post-election Democracy Corps report, "The Change Election Awaiting Change", and on page 94, I found something directly relevant to this pernicious Versailles meme: the American people overwhelmingly believe the exact opposite: that Republicans should give Obama the benefit of the doubt, and try to work with him to acheive his agenda.

Indeed, this sentiment is much more far-reaching than the core support for Obama's agenda in the first place.  The reason is simple: the American people believe in democracy, they believe in elections, and they believe in giving their elected leaders (not the unelected Versailles punditalkcrazy) the opportunity to act on their electoral mandates.  Here's the finding (click for a fill-width version):

Paul Rosenberg :: Versailles vs. America: "Center-Right Nation" Edition
There is nothing surprising about this, really.  The Versailles consensus has been wildly out of touch with the American people at least since Ronald Reagan came to Washington.  That's when they began promulgating the myth of how the American electorate had moved sharply to the right, when the underlying polling data showed nothing of the sort-in fact, it showed the American people becoming increasingly liberal and pro-activist government throughout the 1980s.  But Versailles remained oblivious to all that, and lionized Reagan for bringing about a transformation in public attitudes that had very little on-the-ground reality.

On the other hand, the American people shared virtually none of Versailles' hated of Bill Clinton.  While they were disgusted with his involvement with Monica Lewinsky, they had no desire whatsoever to impeach him, and his approval ratings during the impeachment drama remained higher than Ronald Reagan's were throughout most of his presidency.  When they couldn't bring down Bill Clinton, Versailles did the next best thing: they initiated a smear campaign against his Vice President, Al Gore, when Gore ran for the presidency in 2000.  Manufacturing a bogus record of lies and exaggerations, they made Gore out to be exactly the person that George Bush really was, and we have suffered eight long years as a result of Versailles' mendacity.

Enough!  The people have spoken.  And after speaking, they have spoken again, even more emphatically: respect the results of the election.  Let Obama govern as promised to, to bring about significant change from the politics of the past, not to continue it.


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Wanted, a literary agent! (0.00 / 0)
Who is going to give Bob Somerby an advance, so that he can explain how the worst president in history was elected. None of these TV hairdos and pundits should be allowed to lie about their part in it!!!!!!!

The interesting thing to me about this number (4.00 / 2)
if it's right, is that it implies there's something like ten to twenty percent of voters who voted for McCain, but are somehow onboard with the Obama agenda anyway. That's kind of fascinating. And really, from the people I've talked to since the election, it "feels" right. I've encountered more than one person who voted McCain but is hopeful or even enthusiastic about what Obama can and will do-- in other words as moderate Republicans their vote was for McCain, but wasn't against Obama.

Question (0.00 / 0)
How exactly does Versailles metaphor work? I know its been kicking around for a while but I seem to have missed my memo.

Versailles (4.00 / 1)
Was the royal palace, and surrounding community, where the French nobility lived in a world apart, as France plunged into misery and distress, culminating in the French Revolution, which caught the residents of Versailles totally by surprise.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"

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Paul...a question from an earlier diary (0.00 / 0)
Did you really say that only 10 State Sente seats changed hands throughout the country.  I must have misread....was it a typo....can that really be true?  that would mean here in NY we account for 20% of them.  

"Incrementalism isn't a different path to the same place, it could be a different path to a different place"
Stoller


No--A Ten Seat NET Pickup (0.00 / 0)
The GOP picked up some seats, but Dems picked up 10 more.

We did okay, but not as well as we should have.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Ten net change is still pretty paltry (0.00 / 0)
I knew you meant net...

What was it in 2006.  Any figures on 1994.

I thin Sarah palin didn't help McCain, but she revved up th ebase...the base which is in red states...and I think she had an impact on down ticket races.  Indeed in a comment I wrote on Sept 8th I said that Obama's coattails were going to be cut.

But I also think, as is usually the case with presidiential candidates, that there was an imbalance of resource utilization.  Too much energy and money goes to the presidiential and not enough goes to local races.  Happened in 1996 as I keenly remember.  

"Incrementalism isn't a different path to the same place, it could be a different path to a different place"
Stoller


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Versailles lives in its own reality (4.00 / 1)
that is apart from actual reality. That has been apparent for years. I suspect that many if not most of its denizens actually believe the nonsense that they regularly spout, due to cognitive dissonance (or the desire to avoid it).

Just today, on MTP, Jon Meacham claimed that McCain ran an "honorable" campaign (i.e. he didn't personally call for someone to assassinate Obama), and Doris Kearns Goodwin said that her dream would be for McCain to be part of Obama's administration (because he's a "true patriot", I'm sure, and is such a great policy expert on...).

They surely believe this crap, because not many people can lie so egregiously, with such straight faces, and stay sane. And that's the key to being in the Village. You have to either be functionally retarded, or a sociopath.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)


Believe It Or Not (4.00 / 1)
I once thought Doris Kearns Goodwin was a reasonably intelligent person.

I have to pinch myself when I say that.  Was I totally deluded, or did she radically devolve as a result of doing so much tv?

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Intelligent people can be stupid (4.00 / 1)
As I'm sure you know, there's a difference between being intelligent, which is having a natural capacity for being smart, and being smart, which is actually being smart. She strikes me as a reasonably intelligent person, who has effectively chosen to be stupid, because it's advanced her career as a "public intellectual" (dumb American version, of course).

She came to prominence during an era when it was a lot easier for an "intellectual" (and I use that term loosely) to become popular and successful by parroting and reinforcing right-wing memes, and that is precisely what she has been doing, for years, along with the rest of them. Give 'em what they want, basically. Which, in the Reagan era, meant selling stupid.

She was part of a generation of pseudo-intellectual populists that sold the public a bag of comforting myths about American empire, akin to previous generations that glorified the crusades and British imperialism as necessary civilizing movements. All empires need their publicists and marketers, and that's what they have been doing. Now that US empire appears to be on the decline, they're scrambling for their next gigs. I suggest the "intellectual" version of wearing orange vests on the sides of litter-strewn highways.

And if I see her in one more Burns brothers documentary (which, as beautifully produced and well-intentioned as they were, themselves have served a certain empire-reinforcing role), or try to connect a current issue to the Brooklyn Dodgers, Boston Red Sox, Lincoln, FDR, JFK or LBJ, I think that I will just explode. (Bailout? Why it's just like Pee Wee Reese...)

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)


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But Wouldn't That Just Be.... (0.00 / 0)
I suggest the "intellectual" version of wearing orange vests on the sides of litter-strewn highways.

wearing orange vests on the sides of litter-strewn highways?

No?

Well, one can only hope.

And what did Pee Wee Reese ever bail out of anyway?

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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I was thinking more along the lines of (0.00 / 0)
teaching civics on Indian reservations and in inner city schools, which would be a change of pace from being on Charlie Rose and the Sunday shows. You know, real work.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)

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Excuse Me, I Think You Meant To Say (0.00 / 0)
learning civics on Indian reservations and in inner city schools.

In order to teach civics, they would first have to learn it.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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