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Notes from the Boiler Room

by: Mike Lux

Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 12:09

One of the most fun things in all of politics as far as I'm concerned is to be involved in the final few days, boiler room operation for a close vote. It is intense, it is frustrating, it is nerve-wracking, it is exciting, and it is fascinating all at the same time. Being able to be part of the outside whipping operation on the heath care bill was one of the best experiences of my life, rating right up there with being part of the famous 1992 Clinton war room in Little Rock.

I am not going to tell any of the secrets from the process this time - sorry, but I'm not going to reveal, at least until I write my memoirs, which congresswoman we only got by getting Hollywood celebrities to call her - but I did want to throw out some general thoughts about this process to demythologize things a bit:

1. The "giving a pass" thing that everyone in the media talks about so much, like they are such big insiders with all this secret knowledge, is talked about way more than it's actually done on a big vote like this. While I wasn't in the room for conversations between Congress members and the President or Speaker, our boiler room was never given any sense to back off of maximum pressure of wavering members, or to tread lightly with defectors. This was too important a vote, and too close a vote, for that to be happening.

2. People on the outside very much underestimate the fluidity of the whipping process. In the days leading up to the vote, people always ask "well, how many votes do you have?" In fact, it is very hard to determine the answer to that question because members of Congress have dozens of variations to the question of whether they will vote yes ("I'm trying to get there," "I just need this one thing," "I hope to get there," "I don't want to vote for it but might if you really, really need me," etc.), plus members you think are voting yes suddenly start to stray from the fold for one reason or another. A big part of the whipping process, in fact, is keeping the likely yes votes from just kind of drifting over to the other side.

3. Part of the whipping process is exposing the lies. One congressman I will mention by name is Jason Altmire, because he lied so blatantly and really screwed himself in the process. First he repeatedly told both the Speaker and Democrats back home that he would be there if needed. Then he decided to go back on that promise and announce a no vote, but told the Democrats back home that he had been given a "pass" when nothing of the kind had happened. When the folks back home heard he was lying about this, they went crazy. Altmire's hometown Democrats will probably never trust him, or help him, again.

4. Hardball was played with all wavering votes, most of whom were moderates. I know it sometimes feels like hardball is played with progressives, and I certainly get frustrated with deals our team is expected to accept a lot of the time. But the fact is, at the end of the process in a close vote like this, every wavering vote is treated equally: like another vote we need to have. And most of the waverers were moderate members. We were never asked to pull a punch or back off on any vote at the end - hardball in fact was encouraged.

5. A lot of people deserve credit, but Nancy Pelosi is my hero. She knew exactly where things were with each member, took in every ounce of information she was fed, applied pressure in all the right places, and made things happen.

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If It Wasn't For You Meddling Kids…

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Aug 22, 2007 at 18:28

Over the past two days, at Open Left we have received some interesting responses to two our of latest efforts, Blue Majority's Endorsement of Al Franken (conducted in concert with Dailykos, MyDD and Swing State Project), and the Bush Dog campaign formally initiated this morning by Matt. Most of the response has been overwhelmingly positive, as 118 people have donated to Al Franken so far, and as numerous activists, blogs and organizations sign on to the Bush Dog campaign. There has, however, been some dissent online, centering around the idea that Matt and I are outsiders "meddling" in other people's affairs. One Ohio blogger writes (emphasis in original):

I wasn't around the blogs during last years primary mess but I'm still learning to hate the national blogs. Matt Stoller, Chris Bowers, and the other members of Open Left have decided to launch a campaign against the following Democratic members of the House of Representatives that they've dubbed the "Bush Dogs", a play on the Blue Dogs.(…)

As you can see the list includes two Ohio Rep.'s, Zack Space and Charlie Wilson.

Now it's one thing for people who know the district to complain, it's another for someone that knows absolutely nothing to start meddling around. Sure Space and Wilson haven't always voted the way we've wanted but have they looked at their districts?

And a Minnesota blogger writes:

Christ but I am pissed. We're half a year from the caucuses and out-of-staters from our own movement butt in and tell us who to support? How could this have possibly passed any sane netivist's radar? How is this one iota different than the DSCC fucking with last year's primary?

Chris Bowers invited me into his BlogAds group, and I have always thought well of him. I never dreamed that he or one of his groups would barge into Minnesota and screw with our process. Never.(…)

No more. I just decided to endorse Mike Ciresi. And if Chris Bowers' Blue Majority/Act Blue wants to butt into any other primary races between qualified progressives anywhere else in the country, I'll be endorsing the other candidate in those races as well even though I feel strongly that outsiders shouldn't butt into primaries unless one or more of the candidates really bite.

Considering the comments to the later post in particular, these are not the only two bloggers upset with an out of state activist like me "meddling" in elections and with Democratic members of the US House elsewhere in the country. Even apart from me, these are complaints that I see pop up in many elections concerning many groups. Since I see these complaints often, and since I do not think they are very well founded, I would like to take some time to address all of these issues raised here as clearly and concisely as I can:

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