House in Chaos

by: Matt Stoller

Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 16:14


For most Democrats, election night of 2006 was a happy experience.  You saw your candidate win, you saw Democrats take over the reigns of power, and you were proud of the work you did to make this happen.  I spent election night in Connecticut, with Tim Tagaris, David Sirota, and the rest of the Lamont crew hoping that the early returns which showed us getting crushed were statistic anomalies.  They weren't.  We were crushed.  And if you read my analysis of the Lamont race throughout 2006, I spent time making the argument that the fight was really between two political forces - the new machine driven by internet progressive whites, African-American progressives, and labor dissidents, and the old machine of Beltway lobbyists, Republican and Democratic elites, Broderite media creatures, 'liberal' single issue groups and old labor leaders.  And of course, Lamont lost.  Now you could make the argument that Lamont was a flawed candidate, but there is no such thing as a perfect candidate.  We just couldn't persuade enough voters that Lieberman did not deserve the job of Senator from Connecticut.

This was not a rational choice, but a choice borne of insufficient information and organizing.  I remember spending time with one woman, a strong antiwar liberal who was volunteering at the polls for Lieberman.  I offered her some cake, and she demurred, citing diabetes.  And then she said 'Besides, I have donuts in the car'.  That fundamental unwillingness to look yourself in the race and recognize your own error, as she was unwilling to do (and as I was unwilling to do in 2002 when I supported the war in Iraq), strikes me as an apt metaphor for where we are now. 

So while others might have been happy about the Democratic takeover, and while I was really jazzed when Speaker Pelosi became the first woman Speaker of the House, I did not feel a sense of victory that night.  I felt angry and alienated, bitter about the betrayal that was coming.  I had been through the draft Clark movement, and there was a similar moment the night he declared for President on October 19th.  The crowd around me was happy and jubilant, celebrating a successful draft effort.  I knew, but couldn't and wouldn't communicate to these joyful people, that the DC insiders were already crushing the campaign.

Many of us have been through similar experiences over the years.  Betrayal of activists by Democratic leaders is a consistent theme of Democratic politics, and it has created enormous bad will that we saw explicitly in the Moveon condemnation in the House and Senate.  This is just how things work.  And since election night, I've been in a sort of angry and cynical mood, embittered at the institutional power structures that took our money and our volunteering and turned around and laughed at us. 

About two weeks ago, I pulled out of it.  A wonderful mentor of mine, Roger Kennedy, helped me realize that assuming bad faith on everyone's part is cowardly and lazy, and that good and bad things will happen in every administration.  Right now, there's a crisis of confidence among progressive insiders and operatives that I know.  They feel immensely upset and frustrated that they can't deliver on ending the war, and feel misunderstood by the grassroots that apparently hates and insults them.  At the same time, the smartest and best operatives I know, the ones who came into politics in 2004, are not working for a Presidential campaign, but are working to build independent institutions, or in some cases, leaving politics. 

Unfortunately, the Democracy Alliance and new funding channels just don't work, and Howard Dean's tenure at the DNC has been a complete failure to date at encouraging any political entrepreneurship.  Dean is supposed to be our champion, and he has been giving great speeches, but he really has done almost nothing to empower progressives.  He's never even written a diary on Dailykos.  At the same time, the blogosphere chugs onward, with Media Matters, TPM, Dailykos, etc, creating a constant progressive din.  Moveon has stepped up and gotten smacked in the face, and Color of Change and Ella Baker have become the face of progressive African-American internet leadership.  There's consolidation in the progressive space, and USA Action and True Majority merge, heralding future mergers.

There's not a lot of great news on the horizon.  Hillary Clinton's Presidency will not be a good one for progressives, though she will investigate the right and there will be bright spots (hopefully Wes Clark as Secretary of Defense).  Still, Bush's awful morbid fog of death over our political system, a fog that prevents all thought of governing, will be lifted, and that will open tremendous new possibilities.

Little illustrates where we are than the utter chaos in the House.  Speaker Pelosi is just not in control of the agenda, with Hoyer consistently undercutting her along with the Bush dogs to enable Bush to remain in Iraq.  She cannot prevent bad legislation from passing, and she cannot force good legislation to move.  I hope she starts to be upfront with her lack of a progressive majority, and begins to ask for help through surrogates like Ed Markey, Hilda Solis, and George Miller.  I'm reminded of the statement from Rahm Emanuel after the blank check bill, when he pretended that the funding for the war with no restrictions was the first step in holding Bush accountable.  That central lie caused a breach of trust between activist progressives and Democratic leaders that has never healed, because Democratic leaders have never bothered to recognize we don't like being lied to.

The House is in obvious chaos.  That's not a bad thing.  It's what happens in moments of realignment.  Out with the old, in with the new, only, the old tend to fight back pretty hard since they are organized and know where the bodies are buried and the new don't have their shit together.

We aren't ready to take power, and won't be ready for another eight years.  That doesn't mean we won't affect things and then in eight years a fully formed progressive beast will swoop in from the sky.  It simply means our impact will be on the margins, as we build the networks of staffers, intellectuals, labor and business leaders, candidates, and political operatives necessary to govern.

UPDATE: I'm beginning to read about Complexity Economics in Eric Beinhocker's The Origin of Wealth.  Complexity economics explains non-market phenomena like the internet by building a new framework for economic analysis that relies more on ecology and cognitive science than stale models of perfect markets.  Historically speaking, complexity economics is the intellectual analogue to the Chicago school of economics in the 1960s that gave birth to the now-dominant Law and Economics model of political analysis through which all our legislation must fit.  Law and Economics can't explain things like the internet, which is a big problem, and Naomi Klein's The Schock Doctrine is ultimately a devastating indictment of scions of the Chicago school like Milton Friedman, who was both an economic and a neoconservative Machievellian strategist.  Klein, who came from the anti-globalization movement, and Beinhocker, who comes from the global business elitist firm McKinsey, are or will be critical movement thinkers with substantial and meaningful impacts, just as Van Jones and James Rucker will be figuring out how to scale what they do.

There are big forces at work that are on our side, intellectual currents and new social networks.  Merging these is no small challenge.  I suppose this is what bugs me about the Matt Bai-school of narrow thinkers more than anything, their complete failure to see anything outside of their own social worlds.  As a result, they don't situate the blogs in a larger historical context, and think that the progressive movement is contained by Moveon and a few rich billionaires.

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Stoller for MD 5? (0.00 / 0)
A Solution.

The central question (4.00 / 1)
is will anti-war Democrats vote for anti-war candidates in the primaries.

The single most astounding number in 2004 was Kerry's ability to decisively beat Howard Dean among voters who were against the War in Iowa.

Fast forward to 2007.
1. In the most recent candidate debate none of the top 3 Democrats will commit to getting troops out by 2013.
2.  And yet, we see the least anti-war Democrat winning the Iraq issue by a wide margin among Democratic voters.

There is a significant gap between the online progressive as represented by the leading bloggers and rank and file Democratic voters who do not seem interested as interested in holding their leadership accountable in the primaries.  Until this gap is closed progressive influence will remain at the margins.


An interesting thought (0.00 / 0)
Does this mean that progressives need to spend more time lobbying the (non-activist) base?

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And How Are You Going To (0.00 / 1)
lobby the (non-activist) base? You better not send them to blogs like dailykos because all they will read, especially in the comments, is people hating on Dems and being led in doing so by the front page there. That would not be productive at all as most people in the general public, if they are going to invest time, want to do so in a positive manner not a negative one.

I know most people will not like hearing this but the netroots really has to find a little moderation if they are to have the non-activists embrace us as a movement. I'm not talking about the issues - on those most of the country is all on the same page as us. I am talking about the methods and mind set that the netroots takes in going about accomplishing things.


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And How Are You Going To (0.00 / 0)
lobby the (non-activist) base? You better not send them to blogs like dailykos because all they will read, especially in the comments, is people hating on Dems and being led in doing so by the front page there. That would not be productive at all as most people in the general public, if they are going to invest time, want to do so in a positive manner not a negative one.

I know most people will not like hearing this but the netroots really has to find a little moderation if they are to have the non-activists embrace us as a movement. I'm not talking about the issues - on those most of the country is all on the same page as us. I am talking about the methods and mind set that the netroots takes in going about accomplishing things.


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Well-put, Matt (0.00 / 0)
I see big similarities between the January 1995 moment when Gingrich took the reins of power and rammed through the Contract with America like we did the 6 bills, then stumbled the rest of the way with little agenda besides the budget, which Clinton smacked them around on.

I kind of feel we're in the same flux with inability to get most of the 6 bills through the Senate, along with other ones like D.C. voting rights, but on our Big Goal, the war, we can't get what we want done. Just as reducing the size of government through the appropriations process I believe was Gingrich and his troops' Big Goal and failure because the president blocked them, so we too find ourselves.

The differences between now and then is that the public is on our side and Americans want more government, not less. But the Republicans back then succeeded where we haven't- we haven't begun further building the institutions of power like they did through the K Street Project and enforcing tight party discipline on the floor. From 2001-2006 at least, I don't recall as many of the Republican caucus bucking the leadership as we have now on some bills. The former is where Dean should come in, and the latter where we come in to give Pelosi the tools she needs.


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Do the Democrats Need the Netroots? (4.00 / 1)
As I see the Democratic establishment reacting to the progressive netroots, the critical element is money. Before the 2006 election, Democrats were almost completely frozen out of the corporate cash machine, and netroots fundraising was needed.  As soon as Democrats took over Congressional chairmanships and the polls told the world Americans favored Democratic presidential candidates for 2008, the corporate money poured in, and the Village Democrats did not need our little chump change - with the possible exception of "number of donors." 

The "democratic wing of the Democratic party" does not have significant influence in Congress right now because we never did. Stoller is correct that the flurry of progressive legislation - Pelosi's 100 days or whatever - was our reward, paid in full.  Now Congress is back to business as usual. 

I don't entirely agree that Howard Dean has been ineffective - the 50-state strategy is still party policy, and those organizers are the seed of our future if we set ourselves to building infrastructure instead of reading polls. The difference between optimism and pessimism about the DNC as well as Congress is expectations.  If we acknowledge that we contributed a small amount to what was essentially a shift in American public opinion, then our small payback was commensurate with our contribution.  If we think we are big honchos because Hillary Clinton and all the others came to Yearly Kos, then we can complain that we are now being stiffed.  Hillary did not stop going to big fundraiser bashes, she just included us on her itinerary.  We are part of the Democratic galaxy, but not a very bright star.

Matt and his infrastructure-building friends are right.  Connecticut in 2006 was a learning experience, not a win for the good guys.  The radical conservatives in 1964 took their great victory in nominating a presidential candidate and invested it in think tanks, leadership training, and grassroots issue organizations.  The Republican administrations in 1968, 1972 and even 1980 were not primarily about the neocons, but the neocons were burrowed in there, rising through the ranks and building infrastructure.  In contrast, the Democratic party has a few policy institutes - enough to provide paid employment for consultants and politicians during dry Republican years - but there is no real Democratic party at state and local levels.  We can and should target favorable electoral opportunities in each cycle to increase our numbers of progressive officeholders in federal and state government, but that is a gradual long haul. Political power is not a spectacular downhill slalom; it's more like a long, cold cross-country trek. 

 


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And that kind of post, Matt, (0.00 / 0)
is why you're one of the few people whose endorsements matter to me. (See Bowers's post below, if you've no idea what I'm talking about!)

Thanks.

And you know, I'm starting to think that a Clinton II presidency wouldn't be all bad for progressives. Not because she'd be so progressive, but because we're in such a different place than we were during Clinton I. With Clinton II, we'd still have so much to fight for--and against--that I think the danger of us being coopted, or losing focus and unity, might be easily overstated.


Clinton II (4.00 / 1)
It depends on what Hillary decides to do once elected. If she is able to lock up the nomination easily, there will be no check on her from the left. Personally, I don't trust Hillary to be progressive once elected. I think she will be better than Bush, but that's not saying a whole lot. My biggest concern is that once she gets the elected, we have no check on her from the left. Does anyone seriously think there's any chance of a meaningful primary challenge in 2012 under a Democratic president? I don't.

It all comes down to leverage, and we need as much of it as we can get our hands on, especially if an establishment candidate like Clinton is our nominee.


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Well, I think it's absolutely clear (0.00 / 0)
that she'd be better than Bush, better than anyone in the Republican field, and better than half (or almost half) the people in the Democratic field.

No, I don't think we could run a meaningful primary against any sitting Democratic president. And no, there isn't any 'check' on her, at least not institutionally. But my point is that our messaging machine and infrastructure has grown from nothing into, well, infancy. If memory serves, under Clinton I, in mainstream discourse, Bill himself described the leftward limit of acceptable politics. But now I think--I hope, I pray--that in the event of a Clinton II presidency, we could very clearly express progressive opposition. Though pressure on Congress, through blogs and LTEs and phone calls and shouting from the rooftops, we're at least in a better position to oppose the sort of centrism that some of us found objectionable during Clinton I.

And probably more robustly than we would to a President Obama or Edwards, who would also disappoint us very often (though still -less- often, in my humble, than Clintion II).


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Okay (0.00 / 0)
I hope you're right.

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Politicians often forget the most important thing... (0.00 / 0)
that would be the reality their constituents live in.

Pelosi et. al. have no clue as to what the average citizen faces every day and until she and the rest are replaced with folks who know that reality and, more importantly, have solutions to the problems the citizens face therein there will be no progress made in solving the major problems of the day.

The Progressive movement must realize that not only do we need to get 'our' folks elected but they must have a policy agenda that solves problems not pushes them under the rug.

That's a big job and so I don't disagree, I never have actually, that it will take eight years or more to make any substantial progress.

The Hill will present a perfect opportunity to drive out the 'bad', folks with no answers to any question other than how to get elected, and replace them with progressives who can engineer a moral, economic and spiritual renovation of the nation for the simple fact is she has no answers....

....only 'more of the same'.
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Problem is much more Hoyer (4.00 / 2)
Than Pelosi, at least on the War.  She is more progressive than he on every issue I can think of.  The problem also is that Nancy Pelosi is cautious by nature, but also doesn't have enough of a majority to work with and is undercut by Hoyer, who enables the Blue Dogs.  That analysis was correct.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.

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To me the being a 'Progressive' does.... (0.00 / 0)
....not mean you have the attitude the Speaker has here:

http://takeaction.wo...

Remind you of a certain cowboy we all know? Such arrogance even in the face of MSM questioning, good questions for a change, belies the carefully constructed pose Miss Nancy, Feinstein and Boxer have hidden behind for many, many years. Keep in mind that what was acceptable as 'progressive' during the last 40 years of ReichWing ascendancy is no longer sufficient. In order to continue to move forward, with the citizens, behind us we progressives must have leaders, not triangulators or, as we see in these clips, confused would-be autocrats who model themselves on their opponents of the Republican Party.

The only successful political meme they've ever known.

They sound and act just like Republicans. Attempting to tell us, the citizens of the United States, though the media, how the People's House must work. They are insultingly wrong, wrong about what the citizenry is crying out for, an end to the Iraq occupation, health-care for everyone not just them, a revitalized economy, an end to corruption in government, and totally wrong, totally wrong about how to use the tools the Founders created for them to govern....

Not rule.

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I felt (0.00 / 0)
sort of sick for weeks after we won, and couldn't quite place why.  I think you've basically nailed it, though.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.

Not a single vote has been cast (0.00 / 0)
Let's not get ahead of ourselves, Hillary has not been nominated and may not get nominated.

Events in  Iraq could easily transform this election.


betrayals and time (0.00 / 0)
Matt, I remember that night at the 21st Amendment and me cheering and you telling me Clark was already done for by DC insiders.  And you were (sadly) right.

Last night we talked about this struggle to move institutions towards progressivism and this movements struggles to get rid of the old guard and make drastic reforms.

While I agree with you that it will take a few years, let set some concrete goals on what we can accomplish now to push those resisting reform sooner rather than when they retire.

I think narrowing the Bush Dogs to folks like Brian Baird and Dan Lipinski (and taking them out) will be key to showing those currently in power that not only are we not going away, but we are getting stronger.  So they better start changing and listening to us, the people.

Truth over balance, progress over ideology


Netroots Embraced Hillary (0.00 / 0)
I think that the netroots did not do enough to help defeat Hillary.  In fact you endorsed Hillary with you diaries on her ineveitability constantly.  I think if Hillary is to be president than the DLC crowd will be more in power than ever.  I also think that Dean is out as the party chairman.  I also think that the netroots lost on having any influence with the democrats in congress.  I also hate that Hillary might pick Bayh who is more a centrist than Bill Clinton was.  I don't think the democrats will ever have a real progressive.  I also think the democrats would have a chance to take the west with JRE, but with Hillary as the nominee the democrats will not only lose in the west, but may never ever have a chance in the west again.

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The West? (0.00 / 0)
Are you excluding WA, OR and CA?  I can't see a GOPer winning any of those 3.  You mean the Mountain West?  Maybe, but depending on the GOP candidate, she could win several mountain states.

I don't think this race was ever up to the netroots.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


[ Parent ]
um (4.00 / 1)
We did do a Richardson ad against Clinton.

I can't force other candidates to be progressive.


[ Parent ]
Great post, Matt. (0.00 / 0)
We obviously have very different experience sets and perspectives, but your thoughtfulness about all this is really good stuff.
And I'm really glad you "pulled out of it". We gotta keep hope alive...

Anti-Ben Domenech? (0.00 / 0)
Great post Matt.

I have to say that it reads like an antithesis to Ben Domenech's Gipper-esq screed over at Red State, which tbogg does some great riposte of at that link...


Victories (0.00 / 0)
If you look at the ENDA amendment after the backlash from LGBT groups Pelosi turned around and changed her position.

Now it will probably eventually go back to excluding transgendered people, but the point is that when you get local longstanding democratic constitutencies asking for something it gets done.

The netroots has been with the democratic party for a very short time and is overall more conservative demographic wise than the democratic party.  One can't necessarily expect for democrats to not pay attention to the majority in favor of a new group.


Hillary investigating Republicans (4.00 / 1)
I think I'm even more cyncical than you Matt. I fully expect that, if and when Hillary wins the Presidency, there will be a strong push by the poobahs of conventional wisdom to "put all the ugliness behind us" and halt ALL investigations into Bush administration malfeasance. And I think Hillary would go along with that. Bill did the same thing after Reagan/Bush.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary pardon Bush.


book (0.00 / 0)
Damn, that Beinhocker book looks fascinating.

One important comment (0.00 / 0)
This is an excellent post, I think it's generally correct, and I'm really glad on a personal level that Matt has been able to emerge from his negative mentality... even when those are appropriate, they're joyless and difficult places to be. 

However, there is one important reason to think the next eight years aren't lost.  In this cycle we have the chance to do a hell of a lot in the Senate.  If we pick up six or eight seats, which is completely reasonable (the GOP picked up 12 in  the Reagan-Carter landslide), then we suddenly have a very liberal Senate, with a Democratic House and a Democratic administration as well.  There is very little "Bush Dog" behavior in the Senate, because there are relatively few vulnerable members and they're only up for reelect every six years.  If we get a 57 or 59 vote Senate this cycle, we have a window for some very progressive legislation -- things like public financing and a carbon tax.  That's not to mention that we ought to pick up seats in the House this cycle as well, and if we can hold onto that through the 2010 midterms (which is also a good Senate map for us, as it's a replay of the disastrous 2004 election) then we can solidify our gains in redistricting.

The House may be in chaos, since there's not one leadership team but two, but the Senate tends to have a good sense of what it wants and tends to be populated by solid liberals.  Determining the shape of the Senate is our best and possibly our only chance to determine what the Hillary presidency will be like.  And if we can help make a ginormous Democratic majority there, it will have the effect of dragging Hillary's presidency far to the left.


Umm, yeah, sort of. (0.00 / 0)
Interesting post. Part of me wants to say, "Dude, you are the most glass-half-empty guy I read blog posts from." and part of me wants to say that your points about the long-haul-ness of this project are right-on and lend a perspective that allows for funk-dom to be overcome.

So I'm on-board with your 8-year timeline, though I think it could be either shorter or longer and that when it happens it will only last 2 years, due to the structural nature of the Federal governing system that protects, by design, the powerful interests in the current status quo.

I do think, though, that while you make the point about needing long-term perspective and positing an 8-year window, you lapse into frustration with your easy dismissal of both Dean and the 50-state startegy, which HAS put orgnaizers and resources into all state parties and the Democracy Alliance. Both have their faults. Organizing is difficult and there just aren't than many good ones out there so lots of the initial 50-state plan organizers are going to suck and be ineffective. The DA's process is tame and timid and unfocused and seems to misunderstand what organizing really is, but it is also the biggest single source of progressive infrastructure-building cash out there and it had made some smart investments even as it has bungled others.

In other words, both efforts are young and getting their sea legs and are unworthy of such quick dismissal. My point in saying that is if you are going to take the long view, then you need to take the long view with lots of things. I'm not saying lose a sense of urgency, but I am saying, see what's actually working or not working and WHY before you dismiss something as broken and never going to fulfill its promise. Can't tell you how many times I though a particular issue-based campaign was dead and then it nailed some spectacular victories up on the wall.

Seeing the minimum wage ballot initiative in MO in 1994 get crushed 76%-24%, I figured that was it, but then cities started passing living wage policies, then Santa Fe and San Francisco pass city-level minimum wage laws, then Florida passed the min wage constitutional amendment in 2004 (indexing the wage to the rate of inflation), 6 other states did it in 2006 and by then it was too powerful for even Bush to stop. Now we've got the first increase in the Federal min wage in 10 years.

So it took 13 years to make happen. That's my point, and yours too, I think. Big things take time, effort, money, sweat, tears, hard work, and the occasional fits of insanity. Just apply that principle to every effort we try and hopefully we'll end up with enough successes to really push this country somewhere good.


cellular automata (0.00 / 0)
Glad you pulled out of it. But I've got to question your BS detector. Complexity theory? Santa Fe Institute? Pretentious Smith/Darwin reference in the title? McKinsey? Then you tie in The Shock Doctrine? I call bingo if Beinhocker refers to a paradigm shift.

What is this, the curse of the generalist? Maybe the teaching of critical thinking really has declined in the Ivy League.


Matt, would love to see a book from you (0.00 / 0)
You're doing some of the best thinking on the progressive movement.

The Wealth of Networks (0.00 / 0)
If you haven't already, do check out The Wealth of Networks by Yochai Benkler (Haaaaaaavad law, previously Yale). It's big and dense, but has a lot of rich intellectual fuel of the type that's needed. The whole book is Creative Commons, so you can print it out legally, which is neat.

For a primer on what it's all about, here's a podcast.

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