McSame Cannot Escape From Bush's Foreign Policy--Because It's HIS

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat May 17, 2008 at 14:00


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It's a truism that the GOP is going down in flames, and only John McCain can save them even a little bit, because he's not seen as a typical Republican.  We all know that's bull, of course.  But it does account for why he's not 20 points behind in the polls.  In rather typical manner, Salon just recently published "How will Barack Obama get to 270?" by Paul Maslin, with the sub-head, "This November, a Democratic victory will probably hinge on the Electoral College votes of a handful of swing states. Howard Dean's pollster examines 17 fall battlegrounds, one by one."

But I don't think it will last.  I think the blow-up around Bush's Knesset speech, and McSame's failed tag-team attempt is the shape of things to come.  The reason is simple, really: McSame was a neocon darling long before Bush was.  He was their man in 2000, before Bush beat him out.  He's not a true neocon, not a Straussian.  He's an old-fashioned imperialist with a hot temper.  But that's easily close enough for politics, and easily just as bad.  And since he knows (or cares) jack shit about the economy, he is, inevitably, going to rebrand himself as the uber-Bush--because that's exactly what he is.

I wrote about this all before, back in early February, largely just presenting a transcript of a Democracy Now interview with Matt Welch, author of McCain: The Myth of a Maverick.  But it's newly relevant, so I'm going to shamelessly raid my old diary and add a few sharp observations on the flip.

The point now is not so much the need to connect McCain to Bush's foreign policy--but the virtually inevitable success of doing so.

Paul Rosenberg :: McSame Cannot Escape From Bush's Foreign Policy--Because It's HIS
My Feb 7th diary, The REAL John McCain--The "Bush Doctrine" Is Actually McCain's started off like this:

Rather than being a maverick who's close to the middle of the political spectrum, McCain's maverick tendencies often take him to extremes--expecially on issues of war and more war.

The day before Tsunami Tuesday, Democracy Now! interviewed Reason Magazine editor Matt Welch, author of McCain: The Myth of a Maverick.  The whole interview--available here w/transcript--is illuminating and important, but most significant that it highlights how the "Bush Doctrine" of endless war is acutally McCain's doctrine, and that he was running on it in 2000, before Bush crushed him in South Carolina.  Extended quote on the flip, but here's the juiciest part:

MATT WELCH: The basic McCain strategy- you know in 1999 McCain advocated this policy of rogue-state rollback which is basically preemptive war three and a half years before Bush ever thought of it.

AMY GOODMAN: He threatened North Korea with extinction.

MATT WELCH: He threatened North Korea with extinction, and he elucidated this doctrine by which- wherever there is an authoritarian dictator, we support the insurgents. And, if we support the insurgent and the dictator cracks down, then we have to defend the insurgents with US force. And any time we make a threat and someone calls our bluff, we also have to use US force. It is incredibly interventionist militaristic approach towards foreign policy that he has had all along. That's the reason why neoconservatives have flocked to his cause and championed it over the years.


In short, the alliegence to a super-hawk foreign policy is not something that McSame is going to change.  But given how unpopular Bush's war has become, it's something he will spin, and spin hard.  And this will cause increasing problems with the "straight talk" narrative-whether the press wants to notice it or not.  This is why Barack Obama is 100% correct to be welcoming a foreign policy debate with McCain. The more you hear about McCain's actual foreign policy views, the farther they diverge from the American public's.  It took almost 30 years--including the intentionally limited gulf War I and 9/11 to get the American public to forget Vietnam, and willingly embrace limitless interventionism again.  We are not up for more of the same.

Beneath the fold, the transcript launched into a brief history of the Bush/McSame relationship:

AMY GOODMAN: Can you talk about his relationship with the president- with George Bush?

MATT WELCH: It's an interesting and tortured one, you know? McCain was- not only was he running against Bush, but he was running against Bush very much as an insurgent in 2000. The Republican establishment had coalesced around Bush, and McCain and his backers- largely who are neoconservatives and surrounded the Weekly Standard Magazine, in particular, Bill Kristol and David Brooks. They were speaking a language of Teddy Roosevelt and third parties, this is an insurgency and maybe the Republican party will get blown up in the process. It was a very kind of high wire and thrilling act, and one reason why a lot of people glommed onto it. They saw that he was standing up and having daily "sister soldier" moments with the right. He was calling Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson agents of intolerance and these kind of things. So he ran this sort of very insurgent campaign, playing star wars music, you know? And George Bush was Darth Vader and McCain was Luke Skywalker. And then Bush croaked him in South Carolina in a pretty vicious campaign. I don't know if it was any more vicious than your standard vicious campaign- but then McCain went and sulked basically for a year and a half.

There was a lot of talk, we forget about it now, but there was a lot of talk in 2001 especially of- is McCain going to defect and go to the Democratic Party? He got very interested in campaign finance, which is largely a democratic initiative. He became much more interested in global warming and regulatory issues, which are more traditionally democratic. And you know there were plenty of articles about both him and the Weekly Standard people and neoconservatives in general in late 2001, before September 11th, saying "Hey look, you know, they're basically going to be Democrats this time next year." Well, September 11th changed all that.

The notion of not just McCain, but the whole neocon crowd becoming Democrats must surely seem insane at this point.  Sure, the vast majority of neocon roots come from one-time Democrats-particularly the Scoop Jackson crowd-if not Trotskyites.  But that was a loooong time ago.  And though Joe Lieberman surely held out some hope that they'd find a friendly home, that remark is probably best understood as yet another indicator of how totally unhinged from reality the neocons really are...and have always been.

However, it does cast a very interesting light on how McSame has worked to rebuild his GOP/party-line conservative credentials, and it helps explain the importance to him of the younger wave of Word of Faith ministers like Hagee and Parsley, whose religious zealotry is a lot more tightly focused on holy war with Islam.

The transcript continues:

The basic McCain strategy- you know in 1999 McCain advocated this policy of rogue-state rollback which is basically preemptive war three and a half years before Bush ever thought of it.

AMY GOODMAN: He threatened North Korea with extinction.

MATT WELCH: He threatened North Korea with extinction, and he elucidated this doctrine by which- wherever there is an authoritarian dictator, we support the insurgents. And, if we support the insurgent and the dictator cracks down, then we have to defend the insurgents with US force. And any time we make a threat and someone calls our bluff, we also have to use US force. It is incredibly interventionist militaristic approach towards foreign policy that he has had all along. That's the reason why neoconservatives have flocked to his cause and championed it over the years.

That's why the neocons love him!

Welch continues, describing the post 9/11 Bush/McSame rapproachmant:

So, after September 11th, Bush started to embrace those ideas. That kind of policy structure grafted onto Bush and so it was natural that McCain and Bush would become closer over that time. And then- starting around 2004 and 2005, when McCain started eyeing the presidency in 2008, he began this long, slow suck-up to the right, particularly social conservatives, and also to Bush because he wanted to be the sort of front runner of the Republican establishment.

What he doesn't talk about is the special relationship with the Word of Faith, deeply anti-Muslim crowd.  I can only imagine that we'll have a chance to expose them again, as McCain's foreign policy bullying comes in for increasing scrutiny.

And why would that happen?

AMY GOODMAN: Explain what happened around this period when, well, John McCain started singing.

MATT WELCH: You know

AMY GOODMAN: We'll go to the song.

MATT WELCH: -Are you playing the song now?

AMY GOODMAN: Yes.

   SEN. JOHN McCAIN: You know that old Beach Boys song "Bomb Iran?" [laughter] "Bomb, bomb, bomb- anyway. [laughter]

AMY GOODMAN: What about that, Matt Welch?

MATT WELCH: That was I believe last February or March or something like that, mid January. Look, this is his idea of humor. He does have a kind of blunt and ribald occasionally awful sense of humor. But it speaks also to his policy ideas. Whenever he talks about Vladimir Putin, who is no friend of mine certainly, but when he talks about him on the campaign trail, he says, "I look into his eyes and I see three letters-K.G.B." He is constantly rattling sabers in the general direction of everybody. Of China, Russia, certainly of North Korea. At any given time, he considers this or that dictator or authoritarian or kind of mean guy to be the transcendent issue that we must focus on this very moment. It is the only sort of lever or- the only sort of grade that he knows to approach the world's problems, which is "identify evil everywhere and get in evil's face".

No doubt there is a segment of the American public for which this has a strong appeal.  But there's also no doubt that this segment is well below 40%.  Especially when you throw McSame's abandonment of verterans into the mix.

As Welch makes clear, this is something deeply ingrained in who McSame is.  It's not something he can turn off, not something he can control.  Try as he might, the campaign is going to head in this direction sooner or later.  And Obama's quick responses--finally showing us what John Kerry promised in 2004--seem to be moving us toward seeing it sooner, rather than later.

To which I can only say, "Bring it on!"

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I look for more tag team (4.00 / 2)
work from Bush and McCain.  You are correct to say that most Americans aren't buying the 'in your face' foreign policy right now.  However, I could see Bush turning up the rhetoric on dangerous countries like Iran (or even a new/old threat), trying to show the world as worse than it may be.  Their hopes being to scare people into buying McCain's foreign policy.  I would think that people are now wise to this crap, but then I never thought this country could elect Bush II in the first place.  The Dems need to collectively squash any of this kind of garbage, much like the Knesset bit.  It was nice to see most all top Dems calling this for what it was.    

January 2009, America returns from the abyss.

The Question Is (0.00 / 0)
What else can we connect to Bush's foreign policy?  I may be in the minority here, but I don't think we should let logic and reality hem us in on this front, but rather that we should be willing to fudge a little on the literal truth in order to drive home the spiritual truth that anything Bush touches is pretty much crap.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

Who Needs To Fudge? Really??? (4.00 / 1)
Name one thing Bush has touched that hasn't turned to crap?

We're just extremely fortunate that his hands have been all over the GOP.

But, as to your lead question, "What else can we connect to Bush's foreign policy?"  Well, how about the price of gas?  Or just about everything?  The decline of the dollar is very much linked to Bush's disasterous foreign policy and his alienation of everyone on the planet.

Thus, it's not just the money we're spending on the war--money which we don't have.  Nor is it just the future costs--over $3 trillion and counting.  It's our very status as the reserve currency of last resort.  Our status as the safest investment in the world.

I tell ya, when you let a Republican President have unlimited power, things really fall apart.  First Herbert Hoover.  And now this.


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I'm just saying (0.00 / 0)
I'm willing to go that far.  If I can make a tenuous case that Iraq to adult illiteracy, I'd be willing to make it if I could get away with it.

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Disagree on the price of gas (0.00 / 0)
For two reasons. One, it's not primarily his fault - high prices are mostly about demand growth and supply constraints, and Bush can hardly be blamed for the fundamental rules of economics. Two: for the same reason it's not really Bush's fault, no Democratic president will be able to do much about gas prices in the short term, and it would be unwise to build up the expectation that they could do so.

Of course, pointing out the short-sightedness of our energy policies over the last 30 years in another matter.


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Not So (0.00 / 0)
Bush has introduced an unprecedented level of uncertainty into the equation.  And uncertainty drives prices up.

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Bush has contributed to high gas prices .. (4.00 / 1)
it's called debasing the dollar .. Deadeye Dick was wrong .. deficits to matter .. because running up deficits like the US has .. it makes the dollar worth less and less ... you have been paying attention to the dollar relative to the euro .. pound and looney .. haven't you?

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Aha! That's where you're wrong! (0.00 / 0)
The falling dollar only accounts for like a quarter to a third of the rise in gas prices. Look at oil priced in Euros if you don't believe me.

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Do you realize how much you'd be saving .. (0.00 / 0)
even if it is only 1/4 to 1/3 of the increase? .. Do you remember what gas was the day Boosh took office?  Do you know what 1/3 of that total increase till today is?

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Foreign Policy Is A Target-Rich Environment (4.00 / 3)
Between now and the Republican Convention, I think Obama ought to focus on foreign policy and go on the attack. The goal should be to make McBush (as an aside, I think "McSame" is too oblique) regret the day he and his alter-ego ever decided to question Obama's patriotism.

McBush and the Republicans are highly vulnerable on a whole host of foreign policy issues. I don't think there needs to be any subtlety in the discussion. In fact, the more subtle it is, the less effective it will be.

This ought to be about hypocrites who go to war for nothing, and then turn around and claim to be supporting the troops who are getting killed and maimed because they went to war for nothing.

I've noticed that Obama's counterattack against Bush's speech has the Republicans upset. This means his counterattack is working, so he should do more of it. If there was ever a time for a Democratic candidate to get out there and kick ass and take names, now is the time and foreign policy is the issue.

And liberals, replace McSame with McBush. Why make voters think it through, when McBush will do their thinking for them?


You're Right That It's A Target-Rich Environment (4.00 / 2)
It's also the old Rovian "attack their strengths" approach.

Only, in this case, it's only "perceived strengths."

But, when a candidate doesn't have any real strengths, that's what you go after instead.


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"McBush" Offers All Kinds of Opportunities (4.00 / 1)
"Don't Eat At McBush's Kitchen"

"McBush: Unsafe For American Consumption"

"McBush's Kitchen: Closed By Order of Health Department"

and so on ...


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Coattails (4.00 / 1)
If I had the power to run independent expenditure ads, I'd put ads out there linking various Republicans to their votes on Iraq.

Then, I'd turn around and look at Democrats and say, "Shape up, or I will run ads to damage you now in the hopes that someone will primary you in 2010.  Personally, I'd like to tell a few Senators that they need to repudiate Judas Lieberman a bit more harshly to earn protection.  Iraq can be the lynchpin of a progressive version of the Club for Growth if we make the explicit case that John Edwards or Hillary Clinton would be president if either had had the courage to vote against the AUMF.  Lay the hammer down now because we will never ever have someone as incompetent as George W. Bush to run against.  (Well, unless the dumber and loonier John McCain somehow wins.)

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both


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Great post, Paul (4.00 / 2)
After watching Ted Sorenson talk about the cuban missile crisis on MSNBC this morning, the idea of McCain as President is scary as hell.

But, I'm pretty confident Obama will whip his ass.


Kennedy Learned So Much Between the Bay of Pigs And The Cuban Missile Crisis (4.00 / 1)
He already had it in him, of course, to be a shrewd and skeptical interlocutor.  But for whatever reason, he wasn't that guy when the CIA presented him with the Bay of Pigs.  By the time of the Cuban Missle Crisis, though, he had really found himself.

McCain to this day has no idea what Kennedy was made of.


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And if I read Halberstam right .. (0.00 / 0)
Kennedy was pretty damn close to pulling out of Vietnam before he was shot

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If You Read "American Tragedy" (0.00 / 0)
Not Dreiser, but American Tragedy: Kennedy, Johnson, and the Origins of the Vietnam War by David Kaiser, you'll see that Kennedy was strongly motivated to pull out--indeed, not to get involved in the first place--but he had laid a trap for himself by not remaking the advisory bureaucracy that kept feeding him war-fighting options, when that is not what he wanted.

It's not that Kennedy was a pacifist, obviously, or not a Cold Warrior.  But what he was, more than anything, was a geostrategic pragmatist.  He wanted to fight Communism where the odds were on his side, and strike truces where they were not.  Hence, the creation of neutral Laos near the very beginning of his term was the halmark of what he was looking for.

Kaiser is more of Kennedy fan than I am, so he doesn't play up his failure to reshape the advisory apparatus, but I think that it very clearly was a failure of monumental proportions.  Kennedy apparently thought that he could resist the pressures--even though he did eventually acceed to the 16,000 "advisors" who were the camel's nose under the tent--and thus, it didn't matter if he had men in place who were out of tune with his intentions.  He probably got a perverse kick out of it.  But in the end, it left Johnson in an impossible situation, with no idea at all how Kennedy had intended to proceed, and why he had the sort of advisors he did.

Very strange, indeed.  The more you know about the actual origins of the Vietnam War, the more it seems like a surreal melodrama.


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