Catching Up On Biden

by: Chris Bowers

Sun Aug 24, 2008 at 20:58



I just spent 14 of the last 50 hours driving up to Batavia, New York in the backseat of a 1999 Mustang for my grandmother's 90th birthday party. With several family stops on the way, there was no time to blog. I feel pretty dazed, but I still want to catch up with some thoughts on Biden, the state of the campaign, and the upcoming conventions.

More in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Catching Up On Biden
Quick thoughts, in no particular order:

  • With his early support for the Iraq war and his six terms in the Senate, Biden is clearly a balancing pick rather than a reinforcing pick. It should be said that while I had advised against such a pick for along time, when it came down to a choice between Kaine--who is a reinforcing pick---and Biden, I actually wanted Biden. In the end, picking someone who is a credible national campaigner, a credible president, and who is in the center of the Democratic Party rather than its right-wing, just meant more to me than the reinforcing criteria. Maybe there just weren't enough reinforcing options. Sherrod Brown probably would have been the best choice.

  • In terms of process, it seems fair to say that Biden probably didn't live up to the extreme suspense the Obama campaign had built up around the pick. By this point, the only people who could have lived up to the suspense were Al Gore and Hillary Clinton, either of whom would have overshadowed Obama on the campaign trail. Since that isn't a good idea, there probably wasn't any way to make a good choice and live up to all the suspense. As such, the selection of Biden probably won't give Obama an immediate bump. Hopefully, Biden will be able to give him a boost as the campaign continues.

  • If we made a difference online, it was stopping Evan Bayh. That isn't much, but it also isn't nothing.

  • New, strange state polls from Mason-Dixon (Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming) and Zogby (Colorado, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Virginia). They range from the improbably good (Obama up 8 in North Carolina) to decent (Obama up 3 and 6 in Colorado, up 2 in Virginia) the pretty bad (McCain up four in New Hampshire and New Mexico). The truth is, they are probably all crap. These aren't the most reliable polling firms around.

  • I don't expect we will know where the campaign stands until the tracking polls on September 11th. This is entirely unrelated to the attacks seven years ago, just that it will contain the first three days of weekday polling in the week after the Republican convention.

I am completely fried. Full-time blogging will resume tomorrow morning. I will not be in Denver, but I will be writing about the convention all week long.  

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Happy Birthday (4.00 / 6)
To yer grandma!

Happy birthday grandma Bowers! (4.00 / 2)
Take a rest Chris.

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Of course, you are the authority (4.00 / 2)
on your criterion of reinforcing vs. balancing, Chris, but I actually think this pick is a reinforcing one.  Repigs always attack our candidate's strength, since Rove innovated this technique.  They are doing it again by saying endlessly that Obama is weak on foreign policy.

Actually, Obama was right about the stupidity of invading Iraq.  The Repig "authorities" were not only wrong, but deliberately, bullheadedly, catastrophically wrong.  Obama was right with his suggestion of an 18 month pullout from Iraq. Maliki used Obama's plan to ram a similar plan through the determined resistance offered by the Bush Whitehouse, over the howls of fury emitted by McCrazy.  Obama is right to counsel perspective on the Georgian invasion while McDork tries to restart the Cold War.  The Repigs and their sycophants have also been dead wrong in diverting the preponderance of our military assets from Afghanistan where they can strike at the Taliban and are poised to strike at Al Qaeda, to Iraq.  Again Obama has been right.  How is being right on every military question of recent years the same as being "weak"?

Yet the Repigs have repeated their hysterical accusation until the MSM has taken it for granted.

Biden is reinforcing because he is the best qualified voice to give the lie to the Repig meme by explaining to the geography-challenged electorate that, far from being Obama's weakness, foreign affairs is actually one of his strengths. He will do that by reinforcing the facts, which include the fact that McCain gave no thought or analysis to his hysterical siding with the Georgian President against the Russians, but merely pulled his attitude up out of an old file folder labeled "Cold War".  Instead of coolly assessing the situation, he just went with what his foreign policy adviser told him, oblivious to the fact that said adviser was on leave from his job lobbying for the Georgian President.

Biden has the chops and the reputation as a foreign relations expert to make this perspective (which is true) stick.  His expertise reinforces Obama's.  Maybe not exactly what you meant, Chris, but close.
 


Could you please diary this? (4.00 / 1)
Here, DailyKos, elsewhere in the netroots?  The meme that Obama is weak on foreign policy and McCain is strong needs to be changed.  The first step is to get every single netroots denizen to acknowledge the obvious - the meme will then spread to other blogs and eventually the media and the public.  It will also make it out to people doing voter contact.  It would be very hard to find a single foreign policy (as different from military tactics such as surge) issue that McCain has been right on.  McCain may be qualified to be a Pentagon adviser, but that's all.

Also add the short-sightedness of removing Russia from G-8 to your list.

Some people have 35 years of experience, others have 1 year of experience 35 times over.


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Reinforcing (0.00 / 0)
It's not just change but change you can believe in.  Change which actually happens.  The message Biden was giving yesterday was Obama is a pragmatist, not a doe-eyed head in the clouds dreamer.  Kaine might have reinforced change, but he would have made it harder to believe in the accomplishment aspect.  Obama will set the mission for change and send a pit bull who knows how to get things done to the Congress to carry out that mission.  Reinforcing.

my husband's first comment (4.00 / 2)
when I mentioned several weeks ago that Obama might pick Kaine was, "Hasn't he been governor for, like, 5 minutes?"

I think it would have been disastrous for the nominee who hasn't even completed one term in the Senate to pick a running mate who hasn't even completed one term as governor. That would have reinforced the Republican meme that Obama is not "ready to lead."

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Can you imagine the ad? (4.00 / 1)
"Four years ago today, Barack Obama was a state senator in Springfield Illinois.  Tim Kaine was the mayor of Richmond Virginia.  Are you ready to trust your job, your retirement, your security, to men you had never even heard of just four years ago?  

Is America ready for Obama and Kaine?  Are they ready... to lead?"

That "is America" line packs a big racist punch too, in a subtle and plausibly-deniable way.  I'd be surprised if McCain's people don't use it eventually.

Anyway, an ad along those lines would be devastating.  You could recover of course by counterpunching McCain, but it would still hurt, because it's such a simple attack and it lands so deep in the low-info-voter's mind.


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Actually... (4.00 / 1)
Biden can be reinforcing if he chooses to. If he said that Obama had better judgment than either he or McCain on Iraq, and that he has talked with the leaders of some of the countries Obama visited in Europe and that they are very high on Obama and thinks he understands international relations and that in the event of an international crises he would want Obama not McCain at the point, he will reinforce.

John McCain doesn't care about Vets.



stopping Bayh is huge (4.00 / 2)
It possibly saved us from losing a Senate seat and made sure that Bayh will not go into any future presidential campaign as the front-runner.

I agree with what you've written in the past about reinforcing picks, but some gaps really do need to be filled. In light of Obama's weakness among over-60 voters, I think there was a genuine need for someone like Biden to compensate for a perceived lack of experience on Obama's part.

It's disappointing but hardly surprising that Obama didn't even seriously consider anyone like Sherrod Brown.

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agreed (0.00 / 0)
I completely agree that stopping Bayh was HUGE. The choice of Bayh would have been a big middle finger to the netroots and all progressives. Biden wasn't our first choice, but doubt many of us will hold against Obama.  

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