Dunno. Too much fineprint, imho. (0.00 / 0)

Do people really read that? Compare this with the GOP, they go all in for the illiterate vote:

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by: Gray @ Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 16:32:57 PM CDT

Here's the deal: (4.00 / 12)

The Obama administration has given us phony Health care reform, phony financial reform, and a drastically under-funded and poorly directly stimulus package. Instead of "Change We Can Believe In", it has not only kept most of the egregious Bush policies in place, but has doubled down on them. As far as I'm concerned, "Hope" has not only been crushed, it's been given a bad name.

And as we're being fed this shit sandwich, the Administration is trying to convince us that it's not a shit sandwich, it's grilled cheese. And yet we're the bad guys for refusing to obediently call a this shit sandwich grilled cheese. Go figure.

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by: Oaktown Girl @ Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 17:05:01 PM CDT

All This Means Is (4.00 / 1)

They really can't tell the difference between US and the GOP base.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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by: Paul Rosenberg @ Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 18:27:48 PM CDT

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nice analogy (4.00 / 1)

And as we're being fed this shit sandwich, the Administration is trying to convince us that it's not a shit sandwich, it's grilled cheese. And yet we're the bad guys for refusing to obediently call a this shit sandwich grilled cheese. Go figure.

and there is no doubt chefs barack and harry will blame us when the public rejects their shit sandwich

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by: The Big Hurt @ Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 19:17:25 PM CDT

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Matters That Change is quite good. (4.00 / 1)

Although I must admit I find "Mange That Chatters" impossible to get out of my head. Thanks for that, Gray! Urgh. ;^P

It could also be a good name for a band. Or a song title. Or perhaps a new way of marketing dermatological pharmaceuticals.  

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates

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by: Emocrat @ Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 19:36:14 PM CDT

Thank you! (4.00 / 1)

Well, toi be honest, I had to look up "mange" in a dictionary. Didn't know if that word actually exists. And then I was still unsure if it would work as a pun. As has been recently said here, humor is difficult if it's not yur native language. I'm happy if it lightened those difficult times up a bit.

Apologies to the Dem party, though. It IS a harsh judgment, not really fair. But then, what were they thinking when they accepted this logo and the slogan? I worked in an ad agency for some years, and we would never have delivered such a poor job to the customer! Did the Dems try to get this done on the cheap? This looks like the efforts of an amateur, not like coming from someone who makes a living with this!

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by: Gray @ Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 03:32:36 AM CDT

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Yeah, it's amateurish all right. (0.00 / 0)

Most American political operations aren't all that savvy with respect to graphics. Presidential campaigns typically are, as Obama's surely was, but there are a lot of hacks in that business doing graphics, because they couldn't make it in the better shops.

In this case, since the viewer is basically invited to ponder "just what the fuck they meant by that," this fails in a big way. As such, it's emblematic of a party elite that chooses to obfuscate or say nothing of value. Then again, if that was really their point, then they would have to score highly on that count!

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates

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by: Emocrat @ Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 12:53:11 PM CDT

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A logo (4.00 / 3)

like rhetoric, will not solve the problem. That isn't to take away from the accurate point that this "target" logo is unfortunate, or that the rhetoric is still pretty anemic.  But it is one more piece of evidence how disconnected the folks at the top are from the rest of us.  It is a great example of what Glenn Smith called political porphyria:

A good metaphor for the cause of their failings is the disease called porphyria, which plagued George III (you know, the one the American Revolution fought against), and others in the royal families. Porphyria causes peripheral neuropathy- the peripheral nerves can't communicate to the central nervous system. Political porphyria, then, means the leader is disconnected from the people.

Self-interest will not solve this, because of the distorted view of the world these people share. The only solution is for activists to push for Reconnecting People and Politics (pdf), as Weir and Ganz have argued. (That would also requite, in my mind, embracing progressive rhetoric and modes of thought, as Lakoff continues to argue).

Democratic Party officials were open to initial steps along these lines not long ago, when they supported Howard Dean for DNC chair and his 50 State Strategy. How to recreate that alliance, between progressive activists and party regulars in the states, seems to me to be the most crucial strategic question we face.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

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by: David Kaib @ Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 10:10:15 AM CDT

Open To Initial Steps??? (0.00 / 0)

Democratic Party officials were open to initial steps along these lines not long ago, when they supported Howard Dean for DNC chair and his 50 State Strategy.

As I remember it, there was a pitched battle, with most party higher-ups so hostile that Dean might well have feared for his life.

And almost the first thing Obama did after winning the election was disbanding the 50-state strategy.  Pretty much first big tell about just how bad things were going to get.

But your larger points are certainly quite valid.  The folks out here hurting certainly don't share the party elite delution that black is white.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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by: Paul Rosenberg @ Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 13:13:35 PM CDT

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I should have been more clear (0.00 / 0)

You are right that it was a pitched battle, and that those at the top were largely opposed. But there was enough support, especially outside the top, to win that battle.  That is my point - how to connect those party officials who aren't ensconced in the Village but who have some institutional power, with activists who have energy but lack institutional power.  

It's true that the dismantling of the FSS was an early disturbing sign.  Even more disturbing was how little push back there was. I suspect the party officials who supported it thought the changes that were needed were taken care of.  I wonder if any of them are rethinking that. That said, few state level politicians mobilized for more spending to protect state budgets, restore the economy, and thereby stave off large Democratic losses.  

I do wonder if there isn't a role here for all the progressive candidates who were beaten by the machine over the past few years.  I'm thinking of people like Jennifer Brunner (OH), Bill Halter (AR), Jay Buckey (NH), or Joe Hoeffel (PA).  Could we have a 50 State Strategy for the Democratic Party with fifty Dean-type candidates working to take the top spot in the state party? Let a thousand Deans bloom!  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

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by: David Kaib @ Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 22:08:52 PM CDT

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50 State Strategy (0.00 / 0)

As I remember it, (and I could be wrong), it was Rahmbo who hated the 50 State Strategy, and Howard Dean, and as soon as he was named COS, it was announced that Dean was gone.

Let's remember it was Rahmbo who thought it was his good recruiting of those right wing would have been repukes, who got them to run with a D after their name rather than finding and supporting candidates who matter, so he could get more pro business money donated to the party so they could pay off the political apparatchiks by getting more donations to the party.  Remember 2006, when he came out and said it was all his fault so many Democrats won, when what he did had very little to do with it.

Democrats trying to be repuke lite did not work out, and neither did Obama.  He was elected mostly because he was not Bush, and he was a better choice than McOld and governor quitter.  

And lets remember to keep using repuke for the republicans, they really, really hate it when you call them a repuke...

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by: KC Bill 13 @ Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 03:49:03 AM CDT

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Here's my version: (0.00 / 0)

DEMOCRATS:  NEVER CHANGE AND DON'T MATTER

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by: Steve LaBonne @ Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 10:10:16 AM CDT