Here's Your Bipartisanship, America

by: Matt Stoller

Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 15:58


( - promoted by Chris Bowers)

If you haven't yet done so, go read Digby's Bipartisan Zombies, a thoroughly enjoyable attack on the preachy musty meddling Broderites 'threatening' to back Michael Bloomberg's Presidential bid if the next President doesn't pledge to put in place a 'unity' government.  As Chris Bowers and Matthew Yglesias among many others have pointed out, what this bipartisanship is really about is undermining the public's ability to participate in policy-making.  One example illustrates this very clearly.

The first time the public showed opposition to the war was during the Congressional fight over the $87 Billion supplemental request in 2003.  Bush very cleverly manipulated this into a negative for Kerry (I voted for it before I voted against it), but the actual request was remarkably unpopular and could have been used for electoral gain if Kerry had run a savvy progressive campaign.  Here's what the public thought at the time:

"Earlier this year, Congress approved spending 79 billion dollars to help pay for the war in Iraq and the rebuilding effort there. George W. Bush has now called for spending 87 billion dollars more. Do you support or oppose this additional spending for the war and rebuilding in Iraq?"

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So that's what the public thought.  And yet it passed the Senate 87-12, and the House by 303-125.

Senate Democrats voted by 37-12, or 76%-24%, to pass this bill opposed by 60-65% of the public. House Democrats were better, with a 83-118 vote against the bill.  Still, 41% of Democrats in the House voted for this bill, and 59% voted against it, which is still less than the percentage of the public at large that opposed this bill.  And that's the Democratic Party.  In fact, the overall margin in the House was 70-30 for the bill, which is actually less conservative than the vote among Democratic Senators themselves. 

I chose the first supplemental to examine, but the nature of these bipartisan votes is basically the same.  It goes like this.  The public is against a policy idea, and the bipartisan elites push it through anyway, and then, because it's bipartisan, no party can be held accountable for their choices.  If everyone's at fault no one can be blamed, right?  I chose the first funding bill to go through rather than the initial vote for war.  The initial vote for war was popular, though public opinion was always more complicated than just 'yay war', so that was not exactly the right case to examine.  But the same dynamics were obviously in play with the war vote.

Clearly, we are dealing with an extremely conservative set of decision-makers in DC within both parties and a public that is completely cut out of the process.  That is bipartisanship, by the numbers.  The vote authorizing the war in Iraq was a bipartisan vote, and partisanship would have stopped it.  Five years later, wiretapping authority has been expanded and legalized by a bipartisan majority; partisanship would have stopped it.  The Military Commissions Act which destroyed habeas corpus and legalized torture passed by a bipartisan vote; partisanship would have stopped it.  Every attempt to reign in the national security authoritarian state has been beaten back by a bipartisan majority; partisanship would have pushed to roll it back.  In fact, if we could just get Democrats to consistently vote the way the public would like on issue after issue, this would be a progressive country.  Partisanship in other words would mean a progressive country responsive to the public, and bipartisanship means an authoritarian country where the public is cut out.

Keep that in mind.

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Oh, I got it firmly in mind all right.... (4.00 / 2)
and I've got some names to go with this slide to the Reich. This insistence that 'We the People' shut the fuck up. Here's a few....

Barrack Obama....heads the list for obvious reasons. Where would Edwards, the true progressive in the race be if Obama was back in the Senate trying to make it to a few votes and finish out his FIRST term. Inquiring minds want to know. If he becomes Clinton's VP remember....you read it hear first.

Hillary Clinton...I luvs lobbyists and Joe Lieberman, not necessarily in that order.

Miss Nancy..one term speaker who refuses to listen to the people. Nor does she keep her word to the people. Remember 'oversight' and 'subpoena'.....

'Sellout' Reid...little weasel backseat his own caucus every chance he gets. Too bad Dodd is all used up. Maybe Webb will wake the fuck up and remember why he said he wanted to be a Senator.

Bah....you guys know the usual list of suspects. Round 'em up and let's start working on sending 'em all home.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


Obama's effect on Edwards (0.00 / 0)
That's what I was thinking: If Obama had chosen to remain a senator, get some experience and learn to exercise leadership on his quest for higher office, Edwards would've rightly enjoyed the anti-status quo sentiment (and dollars), but he would've backed it up.

Perhaps Edwards should have made clearer distinctions with Obama or targeted him earlier.  Obama's campaign was awash with money from the beginning.


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Good reason for Obama.... (0.00 / 0)
....the stealth right wing candidate to have all kinds of cash. And a look at his 'advisors' is also very telling.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.

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There's Also The "Get Out Of Jail Free" Angle (4.00 / 3)
No telling how many more Abramoff/Cunningham style arrangements might lead to time in the pokey if Democratic lawyers are allowed back into the US Attorneys offices.

So terribly partisan! Putting people in jail for breaking the law.  Rich white people, that is.

We can't have that!


Yes. (4.00 / 2)
The "unity" movement results from the Republican Party's increasing failure to satisfy a key part of its constituency: the wealthy. 

Wealthy people tend towards supporting the unity movement because it neatly reinforces the perception that their neoliberal, money-first policy prescriptions are mainstream.  As the Republican Party starts to abandon some of those views to save itself, the resulting anxiety of the wealthy manifests itself (in small part) as these occasional desperate, pathetic flurries of PR and media to prop up a potential unity/Bloomberg candidacy that is a billion dollars wide and a very small percentage of voters deep. 

The wealthy support the neoliberal economic consensus of the 90's. That means trade-at-all-costs, a strong dollar, and growth maximization at the expense of equitable wealth distribution (the more compassionate of them likely support "opportunity" to some, usually limited, extent). They want "fiscal discipline". Whether pro-choice or pro-life (most are pro-choice), they don't care all that much about whether or not other people have abortions. A majority are Republicans, but many are Democrats and many are neither. Many fewer are Republican today than in 1988, when one of their own won the Presidency. There aren't very many of them, but they wield influence outside their numbers through media and a myriad of other ways. 

The modern Republican Party shows signs of going off the wealthy reservation. W seems to be actively encouraging a weak dollar policy, and he spends like a drunken sailor. And if W has been a B- to this crowd, Huckabee is a D. In a Clinton-Huckabee race, we will see the strongest corporate support for a Democratic presidential candidate since LBJ '64. 


Very good points (4.00 / 1)
And this is why part of me really hopes they do this, and Bloomberg gets <5% of the vote, all of it from the GOP candidate.  Perot was a multi-millionaire, but he was just crazy enough to appeal to a substantial constituency who say GHW Bush as another eastern elite, country-club Republican but mistrusted Clinton.  This was a lesson GW Bush learned, but Bloomberg is more GHW than Perot.  He isn't going to tap into people's resentments the way Perot or Wallace could, especially if the Huckster is the candidate.  Bloomberg may be the dream candidate of rich white guys, but the problem is that there just aren't enough of thm--the downside of income inequality. 

And, as I said in Chris' thread, this move ignores the whole importance of organization and field, because it fundamentally mistrusts people and would like to short-circuit them so the Best and Brightest can continue in power.  It is as much about maintaining their self-importance as it is abiout maintianing their wealth.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


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The memo pointing out to these proto-Nazis (0.00 / 0)

......must have fallen on the floor under the desk. The one pointing out that theses self-styled 'best and brightest', are no longer either. As they used to say, 'Boy, jes cain't cut the mustard.'

When you have as your public face 'Dumbya', Kristol, Brooks, Hannity and Bill0 et. al. you are not gonna win too many contests where competence and brains matter.

And those two things are more important to our success as a society every day.

No matter what the mouthbreathers referenced above and their posse think.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


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Is There A Difference? (4.00 / 1)
It is as much about maintaining their self-importance as it is abiout maintianing their wealth.

I thought their wealth and their self-importance were one and the same.


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Come on Bloomberg - bring it on. (0.00 / 0)
Where the hell was this bunch 2, 4, 6 years ago?  I am so ready for a fight. 

I never had as much fun as when the blogosphere went after Lieberman.  It is so time that we give them another kick in the ass.  When Lieberman lost, they were shocked.  Shocked, I tell you.  They all sat up, looked at us, and then campaigned for Lieberman and elected him over the winning Democrat.  That put us in our place.  If this insult enough, Bill Clinton took the bloggers to lunch in Harlem.  He looked them over, and immediately thereafter, Hillary came out dissing the base.  Apparently, Bill was too impressed. 

The establishment Dems threw down the gauntlet, and we walked away chanting "Vote for the shitty Democrat because any shitty Democrat is better than any shitty Republican.  BS!  It is so time to smack them again, or have we been beaten? 

...once you're willing to say whatever it takes to win, you lose. ~~Dean


My letter to WaPo on the topic (0.00 / 0)
re http://www.washingto...
David Broder's written the silliest article yet in his campaign for "national unity."
  Our overwhelming political difficulty over the last seven years has been lack of partisanship. Instead of yelling, "Hey, get away from there! That's our Constitution you're shredding" or "Saddam's no threat to us; keep your eye on the caves in eastern Afghanistan," our elected representatives--and our journalists--rallied round the flag and approved whatever criminal, foolish, or larcenous measure the Bush administration proposed. That was national unity.
  Now that the country is about broke, our military is about broken, and there isn't much left of our Bill of Rights, the usual suspects crew of old white men (with two token women) want more of the same. No thanks!

Help! (0.00 / 0)
Matt, I'm trying to make sure I understand what's being proposed here and elsewhere as a progressive strategy based on increasing polarization.  Please bear with me as I summarize and please let me know where I err:

1) There is a thing called Movement Conservatism (MC) that is an informal but tightly knit network of right-wing idealogues, wealthy opportunists, media moguls, etc., which acts as an apparatus that not only supports the political careers of card-carrying members, but also provides politicians and their associates a soft landing should they fall from office.  Membership in MC is contingent on following a basic set of rules that is structured to further the economic and hegemonic goals of MC.  A significant percentage of Congressional Republicans are members and, because of this, are essentially immovable in their policy positions because they are working towards an end that is more specifically tied to MC than to electoral politics (put simply).

2) Democratic politicians have no analogue to MC (they used to have solid voting coalitions such as labor and the anti-Republican South) and thus their job security is more closely tied to the political winds.  They must also rely more on their own wits to provide themselves soft landing after office.

3) Because of 2, Democratic institutions in general and significant numbers of individual politicians resort to a kind of politics that is more concerned with covering their individual and collective asses than it is about making sound and principled governing decisions.  They're likely to negotiate by saying something like, "You can have whatever you want, just don't hurt me (or us)".  So, like the Republicans, the Democrats are acting rationally in pursuing their own parochial ends, and, like the Republicans, those ends often don't coincide with good governance.

4) The model for addressing this problem that has been discussed at length on these pages and elsewhere is that Democratic political candidates are to be selected by criteria that favor those most willing to be combative (i.e., polarizing) against the immovable MC object (and for progressive positions), but still have a reasonable chance to win elections.  A prevailing wind will be generated (by the progressive base?) to convince current office-holders that their own needs will best be met by meeting the needs of their progressive base and, failing that, primary challenges will be used to find new candidates that meet the test described above.

Is this a fair, if limited, summary as you see it and have I left out any salient points?


books (0.00 / 0)
That's a piece of it.  There's lots of other parts of the problem.  One is that the DC lobbying community has around 40k people in it, all of whom function as conservative activists.  We need to replicate and/or dismantle it.

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Followup (0.00 / 0)
So, in your estimation, do many or most Democratic representatives start out honest and eventually get swallowed by the system?  Or are they gaming us from the start?

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Think Water vs. Rock (0.00 / 0)
Rock looks a lot tougher, but Water always wins in the end because Water is patient.

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More Wisdom (0.00 / 0)
Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.

- Andre Gide


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Hypothetically (0.00 / 0)
If 60-65% of the public (or more) opposed the progressive position on a given issue, what should a progressive politician do?

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

Educate And Agitate (0.00 / 0)
That's what worked for the Abolitionists, who started out with considerably more than 60-65% opposed to them.

There are good reasons why liberal democracies protect minority rights in ways that are beyond the reach of ordinary legislation.  The problem is that such protections are not nearly enough.  But they beat the hell out of nothing at all.


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I'm just saying (0.00 / 0)
Some people tend to talk about overwhelming public support only when it's in their favor and they can wave the "democracy" flag.  I just wonder if people who argue in that fashion are consciously hypocritical or not.  I have more respect for those who are conscious of their inconsistencies and understand the value of propaganda.


Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

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Well Said (0.00 / 0)
And it's not just public support that is opportunistically appropriated.  The list includes a host of dubious assumptions, misread and selective history, strained analogies and tortured logic - mistakes we all make, to be sure.

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I Point To The Disconnects Because They're Real (0.00 / 0)
And because they are routinely ignored.  I do not automatically assume that the majority is always right.  That is a separate discussion on a case-by-case basis, which is a large part of what politics ought to be about--arguing cases on the merits.  But when arguments aren't even entertained on the false assumption that overwhelmingly popular ideas are somehow "fringe," that's when I think it's definitely worth noting, and pointing out that things are seriously out of whack.

So.  What does that make me in your book?


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This is a keeper (0.00 / 0)
Definitely a piece to clip for future reference.

The inadequacy of a right-left schema of politics illustrated: what happens on Congress on things like Iraq and FISA is essentially not a piece of practical geometry - trying to find a medium between extreme positions - but a social unit seeking the comfort and strength of cleaving together as closely as possible.

Even if you assume that there is one ideological continuum on which lies the eventual policy decision made by USG (taking the elected branches together), that does not entail that Sixpack's preferred policy is on the continuum at all, or that, necessarily, a compromise between the parties includes Sixpack's bliss point.

Given the difference in situation between MCs and voters, it is, perhaps, little wonder that they should be choosing from rather different sets of choices. But - that's something that political discourse generally makes it easy to forget.

In short, Stoller's is a very necessary bomb to throw. And I dare say I shall be referring to it again ere long.


More Holes In This Logic Than Swiss Cheese (0.00 / 0)
but a sound conclusion in the end.

Is this (a) proof of the marvelous redundancy of truth?

Or (b) something TS Eliot warned us of: "The last temptation is the greatest treason: to do the right deed for the wrong reason"?

Inquiring minds want to know!


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Holes? Pray tell (0.00 / 0)
I'm mildly curious.

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Plane Truth (0.00 / 0)
Whether it's practical geometry or not remains to be seen.  I haven't seen a convincing proposition to date, but that hasn't stopped some from trying.  It is definitely not plane geometry!

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