Obama Regaining Momentum

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Sep 16, 2008 at 14:13



The four tracking polls for today have all been released, and collectively they show Obama ahead 46.75%--45.25% (links can be found in quick hits). Even in the two tracking polls where McCain leads by a single point, Gallup and Rasmussen, Haggai's numbers indicate a strong possibility that Obama led in polling conducted last night. So, it now seems possible--or, actually, it now seems likely--that Obama has regained the national lead.

This is very good news. There are probably several factors behind Obama's newfound momentum, four of which I discuss in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Obama Regaining Momentum
Four possible reasons why Obama is improving:

  • Sarah Palin is wearing off. Most (but not all) early indications were that Palin probably did help McCain, at least from the point of her convention speech onward. Now, however, as tremayne has pointed out, Palin's favorables are rapidly crashing. The lack of substance behind the most cynical VP choice of all time is starting to show. Also, as fladem has written in the past, about three weeks after an insurgent first rises to national prominence, there is typically a popular backlash against that insurgent as people learn more about him / her.

  • Second, I guess we really were dealing with a convention bounce that is wearing off. I still think it was appropriate to caution against believing that McCain's numbers would naturally drop in the weeks after the convention, because public opinion does not operate according to physical laws and there is never a guarantee that the current campaign will mimic past campaigns. However, in this case, McCain's convention bounce does appear to be following a historic pattern.

  • Third, the financial crisis simply must be playing a role. It is hard for Republicans to be anything but defensive in a situation like this.

  • Fourth, McCain's spending spree has died down. Keep in mind that because he accepted public financing, McCain had to blow a huge amount of money toward the end of August and early September. Now, however, he is relying on public funds, RNC money and third-party ads, which overall is an amount of money that Obama can match. Further, progressive third-party spending is ramping up a bit, too.

So, a variety of factors have given Obama the momentum back in the campaign. The state polls won't show this bounce immediately, because the pro-Obama turn can only be seen in the last three days of the tracking polls. In the absence of swing state tracking polls, the four national tracking polls will always be the leading indicators for the campaign. Also, don't be surprised or worried if the Daily Kos and Hotline tracking polls continue to show better numbers for Obama all the way through the election than the Gallup and Rasmussen tracking polls. It has been previously documented that Gallup and Rasmussen are about 3.2%-3.4% more favorable to McCain that all other polling outlets. This doesn't mean that Gallup and Rasmussen are wrong and that the other polling firms are right (or vice versa). It just means that different polls operate on different ends of the measurable spectrum of public opinion, with reality probably in between the two. Remember to always look at all the polls, and focus on the averages.  

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How can you say a bounce is wearing off when (0.00 / 0)
McCain is holding at 47 or better in Gallup for 10 days (sure he came down from one day at 50) and 48 in Ras. for 10 days (one day at 47)?

Obama is gaining no doubt--the margin is closing-- but in the two traditional trackers McCain is holding his own. Plus there isn't much room for growth for Obama when a poll stands at M47-O46. (I assume Barr/Nadar take 4) That leaves three points to fight over.

McCain needs to be knocked down a few pegs.

The two new trackers show a larger percent of undecided and McCain is definitely a loser in both of them. I guess we will just have to see if Ras and Gallup follow suit.


Third parties aren't going to take 4% on election day (4.00 / 1)
In 2000, when everyone was paying attention to Nader, the third party vote was 3.7%.  In 2004, when no one cared about him or any other third party candidate, it was 1%.  I'm definitely betting on it being much more like 1% this time around as well.

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so does anyone know (4.00 / 1)
What the people who say they'd vote for third parties really do on election day?  Do they not vote in the end?  Do they finally vote for a major party?  Are they just lying (or joking?) to the pollster?  [After all, it's hard to believe that 100% of people are truthful to pollsters.]



New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.


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Doesn't really matter if they are truthful (4.00 / 2)
So long as their lies are randomly distributed.

My personal opinion is that people have an intrinsic desire to support someone they think is going to win. I have voted 3rd-party at times, and I remember that in the voting booth I sort of had to fight the urge to pick a candidate that could actually win - just for that reason; placing a vote for someone you know is going to lose is kind of hard to do for some reason.

Another factor may be that when you get in the voting booth you find out that your ballot does not present you with the array of options you expected. I don't know if the polling firms take into account who is on the ballot where or not. But I have to wonder if a lot (relatively speaking) of Illinois voters in 2004 went out that day intending to vote for Ralph Nader only to discover that their only choices were Bush, Kerry, and the libertarian candidate.


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Don't all these polls push leaners? (0.00 / 0)
Are the undecideds pushed to choose someone based on the questions?  I would think there are still a lot of undecideds that are being pushed to choose one or the other and some may just go with a third-party because they are pushed to picked someone.  I would prefer to see them not push leaners in the initial question and then poll undecideds on where they lean and who they voted for in the past.  It would give us a real sense of swing voters and from which side of the ledger they come from.

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Couple things... (0.00 / 0)
1) As the campaign continues, you'd expect less undecideds.  It probably makes sense that post conventions, both candidates will have solidified up a part of their base..

2) There's still a lot of soft-support in all these numbers, if that wasn't obvious enough from the +8 Obama to the +5 McCain in a matter of a few days.  A lot of these soft-supporters may indicate a preference in a poll one day, hear something they like/don't like the next, and then switch their vote.  That's essentially a net +2 voters... which is why we were able to see such a drastic change in public support around the conventions.


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sure but i still think it is worrisome (0.00 / 0)
that McCain is holding at 47 and 48. that may change, but for now his bounce is holding....and obama's fall is reversing.

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look at haggai's breakdowns.... (0.00 / 0)
mccain seems to be fading.  

it's not that i think your concern is ill-placed, just that it is overstated.  there are 7 weeks until the election, and, in the aggregate, mccain's numbers appear to be declining at this moment.  but a lot -- both good and bad -- is sure to happen between now and november.


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I think it's likely (0.00 / 0)
47% is the lowest McCain will get in the end. Maybe something like 46.55% at worst.

I still believe if Obama wins, we're going to see a margin like 50%-47%-3%, or 49%-47%-4% or something like that.  


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I agree (4.00 / 1)
The GOP floor is 47. The same as 1992 when you split the Perot vote evenly between Bush and Clinton. This is mainly because there are more red states than blue and in general the red states are won by bigger margins than the blue. I think the spread we are looking at is 47-51 for McCain, 48-53 for Obama.

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That "GOP floor" of 47 (0.00 / 0)
Are you assuming they get all their people out, like in 2004?  Because, while right now I'm assuming they are going to get their people out, if they can't for some reason that would lower the floor.  

If days like this continue for McCain, and the election becomes anti-climactic, then we could see depressed turnout on their side.  The way Sarah Palin is going they could shrink to like 43, 42 in the polls and like 44 on election day if Obama opens a big enough lead.  


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I'm thinking best case scenario for Obama is 53-47 (0.00 / 0)
They supposedly didn't turnout in 1992 yet with Perot votes split evenly as per the exit polls Clinton still only won by 6 points. And if McCain wins it won't be by more than Bush in 2004.

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Another reason (4.00 / 5)
What about the beating that both McCain and Palin have been taking in the media for several days now, because of all their blatant lying?  Isn't that more likely to be a contributing factor than the financial crisis, simply because several days' worth of news surrounding a certain theme will usually outweigh something that only popped back into the news yesterday?

I think that's an important one (4.00 / 2)
And maybe most important in the long run is that McCain's real base in the national media have become disillusioned with him over the lying issue.  I think they were genuinely shocked that he keeps telling the same lies after they have published stories proving them to be lies.  Now that his former cheerleaders have crossed the threshold of calling him a liar, they aren't going to come back into his choir.

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opportunistic or prescient (4.00 / 3)
Obama's team is either very nimble and responsive to signals sent from outside the campaign re: "course changes"....OR, they really have that "plan" that they're "sticking to."

In either case, they seem to be moving in the right direction and pouncing on opportunities.  Can't recall Kerry or Gore doing that.    


This is about the economy (0.00 / 0)
Period.  The financial crisis has highlighed the issue again, and the decline in oil may be taking some of the bight out of the drill,drill,drill mantra.


Several means three (0.00 / 0)
If there are several reasons for Obama regaining momentum how is it you are able to speak to four?

:-)


Three Things (4.00 / 1)
1.) Palin's a fraud, and a crook, and an undeservedly arrogant and nasty person and it's catching up to her.

2.) Reality has a well known liberal bias. McCain can't hide the fact the economy's in the crapper for two months, no matter how much money he can/can't spend or how big the whoppers he tells are. The fact that he's so insulated from reality because "the economy" for him for the past quarter century has been to go ask Cindy for his allowance that he doesn't know the economy's in the crapper only adds to his problems.

3.) The media has actually, kind of, sort of, done their job for a change.  


Obama's Golden, CO speech (4.00 / 1)
Moments ago...two parts.

First, this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Then this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...


The narrative is important (4.00 / 2)

 Obama's uptick in the polls is welcome, but what's been far more encouraging is that the last few days have been an utter disaster for McCain in terms of the media narrative. From the legacy media calling him out on lying (which they almost never do to a Republican unless it's just too blatant to ignore), to the market meltdown, to Barack Obama's not-a-moment-too-soon newfound aggressiveness, it just feels like the ship is beginning to right itself.

 I get the feeling (purely personal speculation) that the nation's power structures are feeling very, very queasy about the prospect of a Palin presidency, and this is being reflected in the media being a bit less whorish to Republicans than usual. Just a bit, but any trend in that direction is revealing.

  So who knows... but if you read the blogs, the mood all around has been much brighter the last couple of days. I'm phonebanking tomorrow and canvassing in PA on Saturday, and I hope the brighter picture holds...  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


Yeah! (0.00 / 0)

From observation, I agree.

Watching the polls move is like a supertanker changing direction... it just takes a long, long time


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