If Gitmo can't be closed, what about "Camp No"?

by: Daniel De Groot

Thu Jan 21, 2010 at 07:00


Within Scott Horton's disturbing tale of the three "suicides" that probably weren't, comes confirmation that America's rotten gulag of ill repute has an Area 51 gulag of its very own, meet "Camp No":


The compound was not visible from the main road, and the access road was chained off. The Guardsman who told Davila about the compound had said, "This place does not exist," and Hickman, who was frequently put in charge of security for all of Camp America, was not briefed about the site. Nevertheless, Davila said, other soldiers-many of whom were required to patrol the outside perimeter of Camp America-had seen the compound, and many speculated about its purpose. One theory was that it was being used by some of the non-uniformed government personnel who frequently showed up in the camps and were widely thought to be CIA agents.

A friend of Hickman's had nicknamed the compound "Camp No," the idea being that anyone who asked if it existed would be told, "No, it doesn't." He and Davila made a point of stopping by whenever they had the chance; once, Hickman said, he heard a "series of screams" from within the compound.

See it here, top left. Please tell me this facility at least, could be closed in less than a year without an epic Congressional meltdown of NIMBY cowardice.  Hopefully we won't have to find out in another revelation that Camp No itself had a secret room or wing where even more inhuman things were going on too horrible for the regular denizens of Camp No.

Daniel De Groot :: If Gitmo can't be closed, what about "Camp No"?

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How do you close a facility if "this place does not exist"?

And I seem to remember reading articles about a "not existing place" in Bagram too?

Seriously, how do you close it?
Secretly, with maybe a leaked report that it has been closed?
That would probably the preferred solution of the Obama administration. It would avoid publicity (in the USA), possible investigations and "looking back" and "retribution".

But then why should anyone (outside the USA) believe "it"?
"It" meaning here stopping the methods used, not simply closing one facility.
After all it would be entirely possible that everything just gets transported from Camp No, Guantanamo Bay, to Camp No-Squared, Bagram.
Or simply outsourced to Freedom (TM) loving allies in the Middle East?

I´m maybe a bit cynical here but the Obama approach "Let´s sweep it under the carpet and pretend it never happened" doesn´t fill me with hope.


If it undermines aristocracy it can't be done (0.00 / 0)
if it favors aristocracy it will be done with bipartisan support within the week.

Are you getting it yet?


If it undermines aristocracy it can't be done (0.00 / 0)
if it favors aristocracy it will be done with bipartisan support within the week.

Are you getting it yet?


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