The problem with Alan Simpson is NOT Alan Simpson

by: Paul Rosenberg

Fri Aug 27, 2010 at 18:00


The crazy uncle may not be an archetype in the Jungian sense, but he's certainly an American cultural archetype.  He lives in his own little world, but he's part of the family (a senior member, in fact) and he insists on inflicting his world on everyone else whenever he gets his chance.  The family tolerates him because he's family (and senior member, don't forget!), tries not to hurt his feelings (because it will only make him crazier and louder) and strives to redirect his attention in harmless directions.  When all else fails, they lock him in the attic for a few days.  If the family's rich, they send him to Florida.  If he's rich, they try to have him committed.

Alan Simpson is symptomatic of everything that's wrong with America.  He's a crazy uncle, of course.  But that's not the problem.  The problem is, no one tries to contain his craziness or limit it in any way.  To the contrary, his craziness is not just encouraged, but celebrated.  It's normal.  "A feature, not a bug," as they say in the trade.

Yesterday, digby wrote a post about Simpson's craziness.  She hit all the high notes:

The problem with Alan Simpson's comments is bigger than the fact that he said "tits" and insulted women. Not that it wasn't crude and sexist of him, mind you. But the real problem is that he seems to believe that social security is some kind of welfare program for lazy old bastards who should either be rich or set out on an ice floe. Here's what he said:
    I've made some plenty smart cracks about people on Social Security who milk it to the last degree. You know 'em too. It's the same with any system in America. We've reached a point now where it's like a milk cow with 310 million tits!

He's been calling retirees "greedy geezers" for years and seems to think the whole thing is some kind of con game in which elderly people are taking the country for a ride. Does anyone think that is a reasonable approach to this issue, even from the right? It's nuts.

Despite his puerile insults about others' alleged inadequate knowledge, and his ridiculous protestations of having an open mind, we know that he's also tragically uninformed about the way the program works.

And his pathological illogic renders him nearly incomprehensible. Simpson continuously tells the elderly to STFU:

    You remember the last time we corrected Social Security, and people calling me. Let me tell you, everything that Bush and Clinton or Obama have suggested with regard to Social Security doesn't affect anyone over 60, and who are the people howling and bitching the most? The people over 60. This makes no sense. You've got scrub out [of] the equation the AARP, the Committee for the Preservation of Social Security and Medicare, the Gray Panthers, the Pink Panther, the whatever.

So, crazy uncle.  No doubt.  And his latest insulting outburst has lots of folks saying he should go.  But hey!  We knew he was a crazy uncle going into this thing.  As People Magazine wrote in 1991:

Paul Rosenberg :: The problem with Alan Simpson is NOT Alan Simpson
"Alan did have a temper," says [his mother] Lorna, sitting in the living room of the Cody, Wyo., home where Simpson and his brother, Peter, were raised. "One day he threw a rock at someone, and I knew that just wouldn't do. So I told him I'd have to close him in a room as a punishment when he couldn't control his temper." She pauses, and then smiles. "Then, when he was 12, he came to me one day and said, 'Mom, you're not going to have to do that anymore-I've learned to control my temper.' And he had, too."

Perhaps he had--but not completely, and not forever. In recent months Alan Simpson, the 60-year-old Republican Senator from Wyoming, has had friends and foes alike wondering when his temper will next take him-and whether it will prove his political undoing. First, there was the Arnett incident: At the height of the Persian Gulf War, Simpson blasted CNN correspondent Peter Arnett for remaining in Baghdad after other journalists had evacuated, calling him an Iraqi "sympathizer" and saying, without foundation, that Arnett's Vietnamese ex-wife had a brother active in the Vietcong. Next came Simpson's performance on Nightline during the Clarence Thomas hearings, when he angrily needled National Public Radio reporter Nina Totenberg for breaking the story of Anita Hill's sexual harassment charges, questioning both her judgment and her professionalism.

But it was Simpson's behavior at the Thomas hearings that drew the most flak. He badgered Anita Hill and hinted at, but didn't produce until after the hearings ended, "stuff coming over the transom about Anita Hill, saying watch out for this woman"-tactics for which he was roundly condemned by women's groups and in newspaper editorials, including one in the Wyoming Eagle. Says Charles Graves, chairman of the Democratic Party in Simpson's home state: "It's all too bad, because I think Alan is really a decent human being inside. He just can't stand anybody who disagrees with him."

That last statement there is typical of how the political establishment lets him off the hook. No, sorry, that's ridiculous.  If you can't stand anybody who disagrees with you, by definition you are not a decent human being.  But you damn sure could be a crazy uncle.  And you're probably still that little kid who throws rocks at people who say things he doesn't like.

The interesting thing is, the People article goes on to present some evidence that Simpson is actually not a crazy uncle.  At the time, it seemed, the criticism finally got through to him--albeit a bit late, and not really all that deeply:

Last month the decent human being in Simpson came to the fore. At a COP fund-raiser held in Cheyenne, he told the assembled crowd, "I have been riding high, a bit too cocky, arrogant, yeah, too smart by half sometimes. I think it's time for a little honest reassessment." He continued, somewhat cryptically, "I see some of my previous life's behavior held up to a prism I had never noticed before through different eyes. For it has been personally uncomfortable to see your good name equated with McCarthy, sleaze, slime, smarmy, evil, ugly. ... I do not blame the media for anything.... The responsibility is mine, and I shall handle it and handle it well."

Whether the speech was political expediency or genuine contrition is hard to determine. Ask Simpson today if he thinks he owes Anita Hill an apology, and he evades the question, saying only, "I would very much like to sit and visit with her and hear what impelled her." Ask if he is apologizing for his performance at the hearings, and he answers, "I have apologized before.... It is a hell of a lot easier than taking responsibility, and that's what I did that night."

What is clear is that the criticisms leveled against him have hurt. Simpson's 12 years in the U.S. Senate, and his 13 in Wyoming's legislature before that, have been marked by angry, often colorful outbursts (Simpson to the press on the Iran-contra question: "You'd just like to stick it in Reagan's gazoo!"), and he has often expressed regret after the fact. (After impugning Arnett's motives, he offered a qualified apology in a letter to The New York Times.) But never before had he seemed so stung by the disapproval his actions have occasioned.

What all that means to me, quite simply is that Simpson is really not your archetypal crazy uncle.  Unlike the crazy uncle, he knows damn well what's going on around him--he just doesn't give a damn about anyone else, unless he's forced to. And that's just it:  No one will force him too.  Quite the opposite.  His "crazy unclehood" lies not in his own character, mean and nasty as it may be.  It lies in the situation that surrounds him. If you recall, there was virtually no one in the US Senate willing to raise a peep about his psychotic behavior.  It took Barbara Boxer leading a delegation of female House members to protest on the Senate steps before anyone in Versailles seemed to realize that there was anything really amiss.

Well not only is no one in Versailles about to force Simpson to give a damn about anyone else, they're seemingly pleased as punch to have such an outspoken leader for their misanthropy.

Lorna Simpson sent Alan Simpson to his room when he threw rocks at other people. She is what's known as an adult.  There are no adults in Versailles.  They give Alan Simpson the keys to their city.


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Once a pig, always a pig, it (0.00 / 0)
seems with him.


Yes (0.00 / 0)
It's too bad his mother didn't keep him locked up in his room.  

"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
Benjamin Franklin


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Glad to see people are making a stink over this (0.00 / 0)
but there is something very disturbing that the push back on the Catfood Commission went no where until Simpson started sending crazy emails.  Why couldn't we mobilize before now?  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

It Was Intentionally Designed to Be VERY Low Profile To The Public (0.00 / 0)
That was the whole point, really.  It was designed to fly below the radar.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Well, yeah (4.00 / 5)
because as Alan Simpson told Saddam Hussein, democracy is irksome:

I'm glad to have the opportunity to speak with you, Mr. President. I enjoy meeting with frank and direct people...President Bush told us, "Go. I want you to go. Tell him we have perspective"...

You talk about democracy. Democracy is a very irksome and confusing thing. I believe your problem is with the Western media, not with the US Government, because you are isolated from the media and the press. The press is spoiled and conceited.* All the journalists consider themselves brilliant political scientists. They do not want to see anything succeeding or achieving its objectives. My advice to you is that you allow those bastards to come here and see things for themselves.

http://www.tinyrevolution.com/...


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Well sure (4.00 / 5)
That was the whole point. But that was a constant.  The variable has been how activists and politics watchers have responded.  Essentially, before this incident, there were those who were talking about this, but there wasn't much mobilization.  It seems to have taken this incident before that mobilization could take place.

It seems the personalization of this (Simpson as the bad guy in one moment, not just elites in both parties pushing for something over decades) was key. I also think there are many people who are more comfortable talking about one man's sexism (in this case, meaning overt personal bias) rather than more structural issues.  Certainly, you see similar dynamics on the conservative side, but there are people there who will invent a personalized incident to mobilize supporters, whereas progressives seemed to wait for something to drop in their lap.

I'm only scratching the surface here, but how this sort of mobilization occurs, and what the barriers to it are, and what we need to do on the organizational side to address this, are questions of fundamental importance.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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Hamsher and FDL deserve credit (4.00 / 3)
They were way out front. And you, David, have been cyber screaming about this for many months.

You're right of course that it's frustrating that it took a meaty quote from Simpson (plus likely some good timing) to get people's attention, but that, more often than not, is the way it works, and will be, till there's a stronger progressive movement.  


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Kudos due to William Grieder (4.00 / 2)
Who actually got this ball rolling in his cover piece on Peter G Peterson in the Nation in March 2009 titled Looting Social Security: Pete Peterson and the DC Establishment's Power Play Events have unfolded exactly as projected by Grieder a year and a half ago.

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Interesting (0.00 / 0)
Here is a diary from Kos front pager Joan McCarter on firing Simpson, which quotes a number of people coming out in support of this notion, including progressives in Congress, candidates, and progressive groups.  But look at the comments - it is a long thread of attacks on the commission itself.  Folks in the trenches at GOS are ready to shut this down, but folks at the top are focusing on this one man.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

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people respond to a face (4.00 / 1)
Most people are not so good when they are fighting for or against abstract causes; they need an enemy, an enemy with a face, to really get engaged.

Had Obama been smart, he'd have ensured the commission was stacked with faceless, colorless men and women with no personality traits of any kind that would stand out on camera. Bureaucrats who droned on and on in a incomprehensible gabble of legalese.

Drown public curiosity about the commission's purpose with a torrent of distracting technobabble. Keep things very hush-hush and low-key and give the commission an innocuous sounding name that easily slips people's minds.

He almost succeeded, but he made one tiny mistake; he allowed Simpson to be put on the commission. And Simpson just couldn't keep a low profile. He drew media coverage, the ire of women, and suddenly people are wide awake and paying serious attention to the commission's work.

And we should be thankful this is so. We have a chance to stop it now.


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If you've got a spare ten minutes, here's Simpson (4.00 / 1)
questioning Anita Hill. Best stuff toward the end. He shows himself to be a mean bastard.




The problem with Alan Simpson (4.00 / 13)
is the (expletive deleted) who chose him to be the head of the Social Security commission...and it's only a problem if you happen to think Social Security is a good and valuable program.

Lemonade from lemons (4.00 / 5)
The mobilization provoked by Simpson gives progressives a slim chance- but still, a chance- of making this commission so radioactive that only the very worst conservadems will be willing to go anywhere near its recommendations. At least we're in a slightly better position then we'd be in if it were still under the radar as intended by Ohooverama.

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Next up, go after Simpson's co-chair, Erskine Bowles. (4.00 / 4)
BOWLES: Chris, look, first of all, Al and I are 100 percent together. We're a team. I know that sounds strange to Washington to have a Republican and a Democrat agreeing with each other, but we do. My strategy is the same as Al. Let's make sure the American people know we have a looming crisis. To do that, we have to have a real set of numbers. That means using the actuarial numbers from Social Security and from Medicare, and using the numbers prepared by CBO that most people agree are correct, the Congressional Budget Office. And then once we have gotten real numbers out there, let's see if we can persuade people to trust each other, come together, and really take some of these tough stands to bring down spending.

WALLACE: So you want to go after spending first before taxes?

BOWLES: Look, I think we have to go after everything. Everything has to be on the table, whether it's revenue or spending. I personally would like to go after spending first.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0...


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You Betcha We've got a Crisis (4.00 / 6)
We've got TWO parties working against the American middle class and ZERO parties working for it.

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And (4.00 / 1)
A richly funded 24/7/365 propaganda barrage that prevents most of them from figuring out who's screwing them.

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"I know that sounds strange to Washington to have a Republican and a Democrat agreeing with each other, but we do." (4.00 / 3)
What sounds strange to me is that these two undistinguished has-beens, Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson, are still around and relevant years after their expiration dates.

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It Only Sounds Strange When They're Talking Sense (4.00 / 3)
Usually it's a sign that lots of people are going to die, lose fundamental rights, or otherwise suffer some sort of grievous loss--NAFTA, the invasion of Iraq, repeal of Glass-Steagall, etc. So this is pretty much par for the course.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Oh the Irony... (4.00 / 3)
It's a scam for an elderly person to want a couple thousand dollars a month after decades of paying into Social Security? Then what do we call the hedge fund manager who earns a billion dollars in one year and pays only 15% in federal taxes to contribute to funding the courts, police, roads, bridges, and the rest that made that wealth possible?

I loved Digby's ice floe crack. As if we do that to older Americans. Except we do. And it's about to get worse if Republicans take Congress in a few months.


I agree, (4.00 / 5)
but I also agree with jeffbinnc that what they do to children is even worse. Then again, the way people like Simpson see it, they aren't doing it to their children, they're doing it to our children, which presumably makes it all okay. These are bad people, REALLY bad people.    

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While I appreciate your reporting, I think you're missing the point (0.00 / 0)
If the Commission does recommend cutting Social Security (and we should wait for it to actually do so before we unleash our firepower), that's a bad thing regardless of what Alan Simpson did or didn't say.  And the Commission's recommendations, not Simpson's comments, should be everyone's focus.  What Simpson said - and IMO it wasn't that bad; in fact I can imagine the same remark being said about Social Security in a positive context - will fade quickly by this year's end.  Decimating Social Security, on the other hand, will profoundly affect future generations of Americans.

Demonizing Alan Simpson, rather than his commission's as-yet unreleased report, is a misdirected effort.  And I don't agree with the calls to fire Simpson or disband the Commission.  I want Simpson to stay around to further embarrass himself, and I want the Commission to release their report, in all its ugly glory, so we can pounce on it and make our argument for Social Security in particular and for government-provided social insurance more broadly.  And only when the report is actually released will we have something concrete to pin on every bastard involved, from Simpson, Bowles and the other 16 members of the Commission (which include a few liberals, btw) all the way up to the President.


Attack now (4.00 / 6)
This "plan" has been in the works for decades.  If we wait till the Commission recommends cutting and deforming Social Security and Medicare it will be way too late.  Millions and millions of dollars have gone into supporting this monstrousity.  Obama appointed this Commission, stacked with Social Security and Medicare opponents against the wishes of his caucus allegedly to please a few conservadems.

We should have been howling for months and would have if a Republican was behind the dastardly deed.  "Keeping ypour powder dry" means that you have a lot of unfired weapons and the enemy has fired theirs.  That is the new "Democratic way" to lose the war to scum like Pete Peterson who is way worse than Alan Simpson.  Also even older and a billionaire.


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I tend to be more confident of public opposition to cuts in Social Security and Medicare (0.00 / 0)
These are two programs where we can relatively easily mobilize public opinion to defend them.  Once the final report comes out and it becomes obvious what's going on, I'm sure liberals will have no trouble rallying the public to our side.

Firing before the full proposal comes out may backfire, though.  Vociferous denunciations in the absence of a concrete final proposal, or in response to mere progress reports, will cast us as shrill, unbalanced, and temperamental, thus feeding the Robert Gibbs view of us as perpetually ungrateful complainers.  Not that I particularly care what Gibbs and his ilk think of us, but damaging our reputation in this way seems mostly unnecessary in this case.  Plus, moderating the final proposal, or eliminating the Commission altogether, robs us of a clear contrast with which to have a defining ideological fight over the role of government.  It also robs us of a clear example of President Obama's corporatism.

Not that I'm unaware of the dangers of complacency.  I just think that in this case, the risks are low enough, and the potential rewards great enough, that, while we should continue to denounce unsavory things that come out of that Commission, a push to disband the Commission entirely does not serve our interests well.


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You seem to be making a number of assumptions (4.00 / 2)
I think I faulty.

1) The attack on Social Security and Medicare will admit what it's up to, or be obvious for what it is. The attack will use people's support of the program against them. They claim this must be done to protect the program.  So, support for the program doesn't necessarily help us.  Democrats will tell people that this is necessary to protect these programs, and that Republican privatizers are the real villains. The media will relentlessly say that these programs are bankrupt and are bankrupting the nation. Republicans will agree.  Making clear what the proposal is about will not be easy - the commission itself was designed to fool people, so will the proposal.

2) A reputation for reasonableness is helpful.  Ask yourself this - have conservative Republicans ever lost legitimacy by opposing something too early.  Have they ever lost legitimacy for opposing something that wasn't even true?  Have Republicans or establishment Dems ever felt the need to rely on facts to attack progressives, or do they swing without regard to facts? The answer to all these questions is no.  The demand that we be reasonable (as they define it) is a demand that we give up our power.  Our reputation for power is what matters.

3) Mobilization follows simply from public opinion.  Mobilization is hard work.  Elite Democrats will pressure liberal groups not to make waves - such efforts have been close to 100% successful so far.  The shift around Simpson's comments show this - people who wanted to mobilize opposition were unsuccessful until now. This is despite the fact that the comments are being attacked largely on grounds other than his hostility to SS.  But there is no guarantee we'll get another moment like this.

I also don't see the superior value to keeping the commission (ignoring for the moment the risks).  There are positions right now - privatize SS, cut SS, no cuts, and expand SS. The commission isn't considering options 3 or 4 so we can easily make a clear contrast on the role of government without waiting to see the exact nature of the cuts.  If we wait, we'll be arguing of what kind of cuts.


Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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Yes, Absolute!y! (0.00 / 0)
I just want to especially underscore the last point you made here, David:

There are positions right now - privatize SS, cut SS, no cuts, and expand SS. The commission isn't considering options 3 or 4 so we can easily make a clear contrast on the role of government without waiting to see the exact nature of the cuts.  If we wait, we'll be arguing of what kind of cuts.

In fact, I'm almost tempted to say that this is the only thing that matters.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I see your point, but the lack of publicity and clarity on the Commission makes arguing over the Commission problematic (0.00 / 0)
With the Commission being shrouded in a cover of non-publicity, arguing that the Commission is planning some secret heinous plot! is a bit like shooting at phantoms here.

1) Yes, you have a point here.  On the other hand, the last time someone tried to mess with Social Security (2005), that effort was also couched with rhetoric on how we have to "save it".  It didn't work.  The inertial conservatism of non-ideological Americans seems to cut both ways: it makes it hard as hell to pass new improvements (e.g. health care reform) but it also makes it hard to tamper with existing programs (e.g. Social Security in 2005).

2) I think there's a big, big difference between conservative "unreasonableness" and liberal unreasonableness, in that conservatives get away with it a lot more easily.  Why that is is a separate discussion.  My personal bias is towards the idea that the prevailing Reaganist/conservative anti-government political climate makes it easier for people to accept and absorb anti-government arguments than pro-government ones (at least in the abstract; once you get down to specific programs like Social Security, its beneficiaries leap to defend it, probably not even realizing it's a government program).  Anyway, my point is that liberal lunatics have it a lot harder than conservative ones, so the comparison "if they can do it, we can do it too!" may not work.  Though, I certainly wish you'd be right.

3) Again, you have a point, but I think the argument against cuts altogether will be marginalized only if we allow it to be.  Social Security is too precious, both amongst non-ideological (elderly) voters and liberals like the Congressional Progressive Caucus, to be messed around with so lightly.  Furthermore, up until now liberals have usually capitulated because the centrists invariably argue that, "this may not be perfect, but it's still a step forward".  That won't be the case with Social Security cuts, so that cajoling line won't be as effective.  Indeed, this could turn out to be the misstep that gives us progressives an opening to counterattack the centrists, including President Obama.

In any case, I think we largely agree on the dangers of this Commission, and I fully support denunciations of Social Security cuts in general and ongoing ones being proposed by the Commission insofar as we have real evidence that they're actually proposing them.  It's the question of disbandment that we disagree on.  Personally, I think to say that the Commission ought to be rid of altogether is a tad premature, and not allowing it to crash and burn could be a real missed opportunity, for the reasons I discussed earlier.  If we succeed in getting it to die a quiet death now, the underlying anti-Social Security sentiments in the Democrats behind it will not go away; they'll just be suppressed and allowed to boil quietly until they get their next chance.  If the Democratic Social Security cutters are allowed to go through with their proposals and then totally get slapped upside the head for it, it'll shock them away from touching Social Security the same way the defeat of Hillarycare in 1994 turned Democrats off to health care reform for the next fifteen years.  AND, it may be our best chance to finally destroy the centrists/neoliberals in the Democratic Party and nominate a real liberal for the Presidency in 2016 (or even 2012...?).

Before we get too ahead of ourselves, we also have to figure out if we're for "balanced" Social Security cuts at all.  There's a strong contingent of New Democrat/"reasonable" liberals (you know who they are) that are saying that Social Security really is unsustainable and cuts are appropriate as long as they're part of a progressively "balanced" plan.  For example, asshole extraordinaire Jonathan Chait says

Now, Obama is encouraging a deficit commission that will probably recommend some trims to Social security benefits. Hamsher insinuates that this would amount to "privatization," and that it would benefit Wall Street. She provides no evidence of this, and I've seen none anywhere -- it's the kind of thing that would get some attention if it were true. If they were planning to attempt this, liberals would raise holy hell. If they're planning to trim Social Security benefits as part of a balanced, progressive plan to reduce the deficit, I'm on board.

(Also, am I the only one who finds the title of that piece slightly disturbing?)

If we do decide that we're against any kind of cuts, even ones that are "part of a balanced, progressive plan to reduce the deficit" (and we can further argue on which kind of cuts qualify as such), we're going to have to battle these centrist New Democrats as well as the Right.  And we all know that these oh-so-"reasonable" centrists will be doing everything they can to paint us as "shrill" and "irresponsible", as much for their enjoyment as for winning the argument.  While I normally don't prioritize being "reasonable" over being right, this could be our chance to drive them out of the Democratic Party once and for all, and any misstep - like pushing too soon to disband the Commission - could ruin those chances.


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David's Right (4.00 / 3)
"Keep your powder dry" is a recipe for defeat.  The more damage we do now, the better position we're in for the long haul.  And the more we strengthen the hand of those on the Commission who will try to stop it.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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See response to David Kowalski above (0.00 / 0)


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We know what the Commission will recommend (4.00 / 2)
The Commission did not come out of a vacuum, it is openly a blend of three pre-existing proposals each having a clear definition of what they perceived as the  problem: Entitlements, and the solution: Benefit Cuts.

The Obama Commission is just a moderately reworked version of the Commission proposals in Conrad-Gregg and Cooper-Wolf SAFE, themselves and particularly the latter directly inspired by proposals advanced as a result of the Concord Coalition's Fiscal Wake Up Tour, itself documented in I.O.U.S.A: the Movie, which piece of propaganda was shown as a documentary on CNN not once but twice. The Fiscal Wake Up Tour was given some intellectual cover by having many of its participants form the Brookings-Heritage Fiscal Seminar which released its own mirroring report Facing Up to Our Fiscal Future which recommended the precise kind of Bi-Partisan Commission formed on the model of BRAC that was put into legislation by Cooper-Wolf SAFE, in fact you just need to go the Cooper's webpage to see the explicit cross endorsements:
http://www.cooper.house.gov/in...

Cooper and Wolf describe the 16-member, bipartisan "commission with teeth" and urge the candidates to lend it their support. "By running for president in 2008 you have volunteered to stop the treacherous decline in U.S. financial strength," they write. "The American people deserve to know the extent of the financial straits we face.  It will be your job to stem the tide, and we believe this commission is the answer."

The bipartisan Cooper-Wolf SAFE Commission Act was introduced in September with support from U.S. Comptroller General David Walker, the Concord Coalition, the Brookings Institution, the Heritage Foundation and the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

Walker is currently President and CEO of the Peter G Peterson Foundation, and Peterson was also the founder of Concord and major funder of both Concord and CRFB which latter with the PGPF set up the Peterson Pew Commission as an explicit model embodying Cooper-Wolf SAFE. And the P-P Commission issued its own recommendations in the report Red Ink Rising.

The Obama Commission has taken its structure directly from Cooper-Wolf, and much of its staff from Peterson-Pew, and the members selected are almost all on record as being supportive of one or all of these previously existing formulations. Look I have been watching this unfold in real time for many months now and I can tell you this whole thing is a set up. Those who would point to the surface level charter of the Obama Commission while ignoring the structure and sub-structure and tell us "well we should just wait and see" are ignoring the clear historical record here. This is a set up, you only need eyes to see it.


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Follow the trail (4.00 / 2)
I don't want to clutter up a comment with too many links but if you Google the following terms in order you will see tremendous continuity in concept and personnel, the same phrases and people show up time after time.

Concord Coalition
Fiscal Wake Up Tour
I.O.U.S.A.: the Movie
Peter G Peterson Foundation
Brookings-Heritage Fiscal Seminar: Facing Up to Our Fiscal Future
Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget
Peterson-Pew Commission: Red Ink Rising

If you check out the 'About' pages and the 'Participants/Commissioners/Directors' pages you will find a tightly interwoven singular message put forth by the same cast of characters of whom the most pervasive are David Walker, Robert Bixby, Maya MacGuineas, Alice Rivlin, Eugene Steurle and of course the man who has been the paymaster of all of it Peter G Peterson.

If you had to identify the single catch phrase that has been pushed by this whole group from day one it is "Fiscal Responsibility' followed by 'Intergenerational Equity' and ALWAYS accompanied by 'Bi-Partisan'. For all practical purposes they should have 'TM PGP' after each occurrence in the MSM.


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Yes, The "Wait And See" Advice Is Ludicrously Naive (0.00 / 0)
Would you say that to someone watching an avalanche come at them?

As you say, these folks have been at this for a very, very long time.

The most notable thing they've done, IMHO, is completely disappear when Bush was doing his tax cuts.  That's the only time in two decades that they ever shut up.  Tells you everything you need to know.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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The President needed someone to partner (0.00 / 0)
with him on social security, to join with the 'team of rivals' that he has convened in every area of his administration. Simpson is now just another elitist who has been exposed. He's no crazy uncle. He's always been radically opposed to the safety net and to the recognition that government can be good - that government MUST be good - and that government must serve the needs of its citizens. Like most political actors who come to feel entitled to their positions, Simpson resents voters.

The President has constantly sought bipartisanship, and this has consistently inflamed extremist opposition that fires off unreasonable rhetoric. On issue after issue, laws get passed that are watered down so much that they appear more as statements of intent rather than effective reforms with teeth that are badly needed.

But, remember that we have had thirty years of Reagan de-regulation where a free market approach to governance has been proven to have failed us on every front, having corrupted, to some extent, our air, our water, our food, our medicine, our energy and our financial system.

I think we're getting an evolution of reform rather than a crushing revolution that would yield up clear slates of winners and losers. This is frustrating for those of us on the left who had expected so much more, and so much more quickly.

But look how much better we're getting at exposing the corruptors and the corruption! We have three decades of crap to unearth. The work has hardly begun.
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They only call it class war when we fight back.


this is so silly, so off the mark, (4.00 / 1)
that it rivals the unreality created by the Bush-Cheney Administration. you might try thinking for yourself just a little, and if that doesn't work get a better quality of commentary to help you.  

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It's too subtle for you, I guess. (0.00 / 0)
Exposing thirty years of Republican corruption and degradation of good government practice at every level is a tough job.

Look. Here's a start:
The era of de-regulation is over.

How does that play amidst a generation of corporate criminals who flouted rules at will abetted by systemic government impotence and a corrupted civil service?

Or, as Greenspan said, "There's a flaw."
(Yeah, Alan, free unregulated markets are inherently corrupt. But we knew that. We knew it with Garn-St.Germain and the subsequent manufactured S&L; "crisis." We should have known it was coming with Gramm-Leach-Bliley, but we had to wait a year for the CFMA of 2000 to be sure we were staring another crisis in the face.)

We need to expose more of the fraud and all the players. How do you do that if not by featuring these creepy political actors front and center on the pretext of bipartisanship? (We didn't even have to wait very long for Simpson to get stupid and arrogant.)

I don't know why everyone thinks Obama's not revolutionary enough. Don't you see the progress in the erosion of Republican ideas?

(No, I'm not being sarcastic. I believe it's slow, but I see it's steady. Maybe I need a sharp kick to the head, but I thought I got one already. I got it two years ago...with TARP. Didn't you?)

They only call it class war when we fight back.


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I must be terribly confused... (4.00 / 1)
I don't know why everyone thinks Obama's not revolutionary enough. Don't you see the progress in the erosion of Republican ideas?

You're crediting Obama with an erosion of Republican ideas... even as he codifies them?  Or, is that whoosh I hear, your point zooming a mile over my head?


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You're not confused. You're just more outraged than I am. (0.00 / 0)
We've got 65 days to make sure Democrats win local small-turnout elections.

I'm in NYC, & just to the left of a Popular Front Democrat I know - a war tax resister like me, so I'll be voting for Democrats all the way down the line. I registered near 1,000 new Dem voters for Obama in the 07-08 cycle, so I'm not giving up on him just yet. And I think the other side of the aisle ought to be utterly destroyed for all they have enabled. Their propaganda workmanship is far more outrageous. (And I do mean utterly destroyed.) We do that with elections, and one more would make it three in a row.

Simpson is just a depraved laughingstock with money. The village, personified. He has no idea what awaits our rulers if they restructure SS in the midst of the current pain. But I do hope the catfood comm gets enough reassurance from Obama that it floats a fart (before the "report" in December) that 18 to 29 year olds retire at 75, 80 or whatever lunacy. That would help turn out the younger vote at least. So what? ...you thought I was liberal?

I'd suggest we turn ourselves toward memes that work, like "In 2001 and 2003, Bush Republicans scheduled a tax increase to go into effect in January 2011. Democrats now want to cut taxes on the middle class. You decide."

They only call it class war when we fight back.


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No, ez. (4.00 / 1)
You genuinely confuse me.  If I look back at your initial comment, I find I've no argument and not even a quibble with the first three paragraphs.  I'd be okay with the 4th except for this idea of evolution of reform.  I have no clue what you mean.  When "reform" has "no teeth," it isn't reform.

And, I honestly don't know who you're crediting with this exposure of Republican corruption.  And, in your reply to VLaszlo it very much seems that you're crediting Obama, hence my question to you for clarification.  Because, clearly, as Paul and Glenn Greenwald, and others have extensively documented, the Obama administration is codifying the worst of Bush, and the worst of the GOP's political instincts.  From civil liberties, to climate, to AfPk, to Yemen, to Social Security, to HAMP/TARP...  

I get that you want to hold out for the Democrats, and for Obama.  With the effort you exerted on his behalf, you've got some real skin in this game.  I'd note that you've identified a single issue on which to base your continued support - an issue that Obama's administration has not yet solidified its position.  Convenient.  I can say, Obama's performance to date does NOT bode well in your preferred direction, but in a proof is in the pudding way, that pudding isn't yet out of the oven.  So, maybe you'll be correct.  Who knows.  But, on the rest?  Those cards are all face up on the table, even if you don't want to look at them.

As for, ...you thought I was liberal?  I haven't a freakin' clue what you are... except I'm beginning to think you might be incoherent.


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More insult & not even a freaking rec for my good framing. (0.00 / 0)
As far as national - mostly holdover Republican policies - are concerned, they are a fully-loaded semi-trailer driving downhill at 60 (now slowed to 30) miles per hour. We will only make a u-turn when it won't jackknife the truck.

(How's this for framing:
"In 2001 and 2003, Bush Republicans scheduled a tax increase to go into effect in January 2011. Democrats now want to cut taxes on the middle class. You decide.")

SS "reform" tricks should only be headed up in a catfood commission by right wing Republican scam artists for the Wall Street beneficiaries of TARP. Simpson is valuable for his deep personality flaws, intolerance of voter values and seriously poor judgment. These could not have been exposed better. It's going to be known as "The Republican Cat Food Commission!" That is actual framing, not vapid rhetoric. It could not have been proven better!

I'm wh male 60, and my AA friends have explained 350 years of intolerable injustice to me ...better than Paul here, better than Saul (Alinsky), too.

What I really needed, though, I had to get from Zinn. History tells me that "change will not come in a day & justice not in an hour."

"Unity is the great need of the hour," is what King said. "Unity is how we shall overcome." -M.L. King

Democrats must be successful for yet a third time in a six year cycle of biennial elections, for in that panoply we may find that debate, dissension, even extremism & violence from political opponents, finally found their true mark, and things were gradually getting better for citizens afterward. It happened gradually as Joe Voter saw the Republican agenda exposed for what it was: A plan for the haves while the have-nots could go begging for all they cared. Obama brought Republicans forward in bipartisanship, stage center, with a fair hearing for all to see.

"Unity is the great need of the hour. Unity is how we shall overcome." Toward that urgent need, and with only 63 days to go before the election, I think framing the President who is not even up for re-election as "not-progressive-enough-look-who-he-put-on-the-catfood-commission," is pretty valuable to Democratic Party opposition, don't you?

Since the laws that have been passed aren't working, because they are mostly policy dicta with few teeth that do not address structural corruption, the next phase of change reform will be interesting. Try to keep up.



They only call it class war when we fight back.


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Please Notify The Obama Adfmistration! (0.00 / 0)
The era of de-regulation is over.

The MMS isn't the only office that hasn't gotten the word yet.

The Oval Office, for starters, should be served in triplicate.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Read Robert Reich from Friday, Paul. I think you'll see what I mean. (0.00 / 0)
here: http://robertreich.org/post/10...

Then take a look at this bit of Versailles sophistry from NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08...



They only call it class war when we fight back.


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Yea but isn't it interesting... (4.00 / 1)
... that his own taxpayer-funded retirement package is guaranteed for life.

Jack Lohman

http://MoneyedPoliticians.net

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