Obama: With sufficiently diminished expecations, EVERYTHING looks HUGE!

by: Paul Rosenberg

Thu Dec 23, 2010 at 09:00


Sometimes things spin out of control, after which they spin into control. So if you can't actually pass the vast majority of what you need to pass, well, just make the most out of what you can.  It's the oldest trick in the book, which works out just fine, when you can't teach an old dog new tricks.  And so we have a Democratic president presiding over the slo-mo dismantlement of the New Deal and the American middle class patting himself on the back so hard, he almost breaks his arm, as TPM reports:

Obama Touts Lame-Duck Session Accomplishments: 'I Am Persistent'
Eric Kleefeld | December 22, 2010, 5:32PM

At a press conference this afternoon, President Obama touted the accomplishments of the past several weeks, and sought to rebut any impression that he had been diminished as president after the midterm election results.

"A lot of folks in this town predicted that after the midterm elections, Washington would be headed for more partisanship and more gridlock," said Obama. "And instead this has been a season of progress for the American people."

It was a very different Obama compared to his press conference two weeks ago, when he tongue-lashed liberals he described as "purist" and "sanctimonious" for criticizing him for making too many compromises with Republicans.

As his key examples today, Obama cited the compromise package with Republicans on extending tax cuts and unemployment benefits, the repeal of the ban on gays serving in the military, the ratification of the New START nuclear weapons treaty, and the food safety bill.

"So I think it's fair to say that this has been the most productive post-election period that we've had in decades, and it comes on the heels of the most productive two years that we've had in generations."

Okay, reality-check time, boys and girls:

(1) As I noted yesterday ("Dean Baker takes a look at the stimulus that isn't there"), the tax deal is pretty much a bust as far as stimulating the economy is concerned, which is what it's being touted for now.  It's a defeat of one of Obama's key campaign promises.  The unemployment benefit extensions--which up until just this year have always been utterly automatic--don't help over 2 million people, whose benefits have run out (the 99ers). And--as Krugman pointed out last week--it shifts the expected economic growth pattern of the next two years from one that benefits Obama's re-election to one that undercuts it.

(2) The repeal of DADT was historic---for the United States.  But for Albania, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Colombia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, The Philippines, Poland, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, or the United Kingdom... not so much.

(3) The START Treaty barely moves the ball forward at all over the expired treaty--passed under George H.W. Bush--especially compared to the goal of eliminating nuclear weapons entirely, a position supported by such wild-eyed radicals as Henry Kissinger and George P. Schultz.

(4) Food Safety.  Who could be against that?  So why did it take till the last minute to pass?

(5) Ditto for the issue of health care funding 9/11 Responders, not mentioned in the passage above.  How, exactly, is last-minute passage of this not a disgrace?  Less of a disgrace than not passing it at all, obviously.  But still a disgrace.

And what was that last bit again?

"So I think it's fair to say that this has been the most productive post-election period that we've had in decades, and it comes on the heels of the most productive two years that we've had in generations."

Oh, yeah:

That's productive, all right.  Look, Obama may have gotten a lot passed despite this level of obstruction, but this was a time of historic need as well as opportunity, and that has to be the standard by which we judge.  Nothing on global warming?  Nothing on immigration but a worsening of Bush enforcement policies? And the stimulus that was, as Krugman put it on the Rachel Maddow Show this week, about 1/3 the size it needed to be.  That alone represented a huge legislative failure, not a success, because, as Krugman himself warned at the time, there was no chance for a do-over, and as a result, we're looking at prolonged period of stagnation, ala Japan's "lost decade" that was completely preventable.  No way that counts as an "accomplishment". No way. That was a failure of epic proportions.

And then, when we turn from the supposedly monumental to the mundane, what do we see?  A pathetically low rate of judicial confirmations, and we don't even have a budget for next year. Which is so subnormal it's ridiculous.

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you must lead one miserable life (4.00 / 1)
I have never read someone, or met someone, who is as miserable as you. Name one President, Democrat or Republican, that never compromised, even on some core principles, to get things done sometime.  The President could pass a golden stool and it would not be gold enough for you.  Thank god most of us aren't like you or think like you do. Perhaps you could teach a seminar on how to be perfect in your little self-consumed world. You must really hate what Bill Clinton had to do, as well, to govern after his big congressional defeat.

I can show you millions of them (4.00 / 1)
I have never read someone, or met someone, who is as miserable as you.

They are called the unemployed.  But then, I have never seen you show the least concern for them.  In fact the only concern I see on your part is getting Obama re-elected and criticizing those who aren't in that ballpark.

Come 2012, we'll see who's the majority, won't we?

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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And the working poor, the former middle-class... (4.00 / 1)
... the sick, the infirm, the disabled. The veterans being denied healthcare for brain injuries and PTSD. The 55 million people without healthcare. All those people who's jobs are in the process of being off-shored to Asia. All the people near retirement who are losing their pensions and soon to lose their Social Security and Medicare.

Come to think of it, that's really a lot of people and there's still more out there!

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates


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I don't read this as being the writer's misery, (4.00 / 5)
rather it is advocacy on behalf of the miserable. I sincerely hope - and believe - that you are not among that cohort.

Paul has never written against compromise (nor has any one else here actually). It is capitulation that we object to: giving in to radical demands and getting virtually nothing in return.

Your post attacks the writer personally without offering a single substantive rebuttal point. In contrast, Paul supported his contentions with either precise accurate data points or reasonable rhetorical challenges,or both.


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In addition: (4.00 / 4)
It is particularly galling to have the president and his staff vigorously celebrating their utterly feckless mediocrity.  If he and they are going to govern without sensitivity (remember: action and results, not pretty words) to the struggling and miserable among us, they should, as a matter of common decency at least, keep quiet about it.  

It is reminiscent of Bush's "Now watch this drive."


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I'm Not Going To Let This Be Hidden By Innappropriate Troll-Rating (4.00 / 5)
But you ought to realize that engaging in personal attacks on people you've never even met is a de facto admission that you have no faith in your own substantive arguments.  So you really might want to re-think that strategy.

But that's only the beginning of your cognitive difficulties.  Next, you advance on the pretense that all compromises are equal, ergo any criticism of one compromise is a criticism of all compromise.  This is slightly better than personal attacks on people you don't know, but still nowhere close to being a legitimate argument.

The question isn't compromise or no compromise.  The question is "What do you get in the end?"  If you end up with something that sets you up for failure--a stimulus package that leaves tens of millions out of work, and most probably leaves our economy stagnant for a decade to come, a "healthcare reform" package that leaves our healthcare system broken and the problem-makers more wealthy and powerful than ever before, etc.--then this is a manifest failure, not because you compromised, but because you had no clear commitment and plan for success that you could then achieve by compromising less essential elements for.

More importantly, it now seems clear that Obama doesn't even want success as many of those who worked so hard for his election would define it.  His definition of "success" certainly differs a great deal from that of all the homeowners he's allowed to lose their homes, while bailing out all the bankers who fleeced them.

In short, I'm judging Obama the old-fashioned way: by results, not rhetoric.


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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This comment by Paul should be recommended by everyone at this board (4.00 / 2)
It encompasses the spirit with which Paul and the management allow each of us to deal with our thoughts on issues that are deeply entwined in each of our personal makeup.  Paul may occasionally point out facts that dispute what any of us are espousing, but he has tried to allow each of us to work toward a reasonable and intelligent understanding of the issues and problems.  

The commenter is becoming widely known for only having one issue, the re-election (some would say idolatry) of Barack Obama.  My guess is he's doing more to drive away Obama votes on this board than anyone else.  

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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Okay, okay.... (4.00 / 3)
Since I think that the diarist himself should have the last word in such matters, I've withdrawn the troll rating. In defense of my original rating, I'll say only that I hardly ever troll rate a comment here, and that my reason in this case was watching therealityis post a continuing series of essentially contentless jibes in the comments section. If that doesn't constitute being a troll, then I guess I don't understand what trolling is supposed to be.

That said, one person's opinion is only that, and I'd never assume that mine should define how things are done, here or elsewhere. After all, if the signal-to-noise ratio doesn't suit us, we can always go somewhere else.


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An exceptional troll comment (4.00 / 2)
You were essentially correct that it met the standard of trollishness, but I gather that Paul and others felt that there was merit to examine the comment further. One of those rare instances when a trollish pronouncement precipitated further, better discussion and insights.

The MSM has tagged Independents the party of swing-voting 'centrism.' If Democrats no longer represent your liberal values, show America there is still a Left by registering for another left-aligned party.

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Yeah, maybe so (0.00 / 0)
You're right, no doubt, but the essence of trollery, as I've observed it, is that one snipe always begets a host of reasoned replies. So, instead of staking out his position, the troll gets to push a single button, sit back and file his nails while everyone else focuses on him, rather than what they were doing before he showed up.

Done once, this can be exemplary, just as Paul has treated it here. Repeated often enough, it has a tendency to clog the drains. In this case I may have been premature in my judgment. Time will tell whether or not this exchange follows the familiar pattern. If everyone else can afford to wait, I suppose I can too. If I'm wrong, it certainly wouldn't be the first time


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I Understand Your Point, William (4.00 / 1)
And I was initially surprised to see that you were the one troll-rating it.

But we're at the point now where the troll-worthiness of the comments is the substance.

Quite the paradox, no?  And who better than you to appreciate it?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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That's why you're The Editor and I'm not! (0.00 / 0)
Your point is well taken. Indeed, since therealityis (how's that for unintentional irony?) took the time to tap in more than one absurdly disjointed sentence--as is the norm with this commenter--perhaps some tolerance is called for in this case.

Besides, the responses are worth reading for their intelligence and thoughtfulness, no?  

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates


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Paul is right in not allowing this respondent to be hidden (4.00 / 2)
First, he has every right to hold this opinion and he is not alone in holding it.  Come 2012 there will be at least three kind of Democratic voters (or non-voters):

--- those that would vote for Obama even if he completely disbanded Soc. Sec., executed all the gays in the military, and approved the secession of all the Red States.

--- those that could never vote against the Democratic Party even if George Wallace and W were the running mates.

--- those that have just had enough of Republican-lite.

Second, this asshat is the best advocate we could ever have for the very deceptive and selfish politics of the Corporate Democrats.  We need people like him to show exactly how shallow the Democratic leadership has become.

On the other hand, I had to stare at the monitor for fifteen minutes before I could move past the troll menu.

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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And you didn't even start of the subject of the six wars that he seems (0.00 / 0)
to be willing to drag on forever at the cost of about one trillion dollars a year (defense budget).  

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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True, But (4.00 / 2)
This was about his legislative record.  Otherwise, I'd still be writing the damn thing.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Well said (4.00 / 6)
It's also speaks to the success of the GOP extremism strategy. They would block a bill that praises puppies, Obama and Congress would manage to pass it after a month, then the party faithful will celebrate their "victory."

These last few weeks were very telling. On fundamental money issues, the GOP got what it wanted, money for the rich and super-rich and a lovely chance to take a whack at governing spending in the new Congress, yet Obama and most Democrats are celebrating. It's disturbing.  


And To Make It Even Worse (4.00 / 2)
On fundamental money issues, the GOP got what it wanted, money for the rich and super-rich and a lovely chance to take a whack at governing spending in the new Congress

there's the constant harping on the theme that Obama is "in it for the long haul", "thinking strategically", blah, blah, blah.

You really shouldn't oughta talk like that when you're such a piss-poor strategic thinker & doer.  It was, after all, Obama's brilliant pre-compromise strategy of "bipartisanship" that gave us the failed stimulus that lost the midterm elections in record fashion.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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The worst of those fundamental money issues: (4.00 / 4)
For the first time ever, the Republicans have succeeded in planting a potentially devastating bomb under Social Security. All those who believe Obama will veto an extension of the "temporary" payroll tax cut, raise your hands. Anybody? Bueller?

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calm down dudes - (0.00 / 0)
at least this could be a chance to get rid of your 'fixation' on 'thee Obama' - Just try to think he didn't have THAT much to do with this 'orgy' of passing 'stuff' - It was all the 'accomplishment' -(or the 'fault') of these idiot in Congress - At least the American people seem to know that much - That's why they give the Congress still a much worst rating than the President -(he still is pretty good in 'representing') - So - Merry, Merry!

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Right, but you left something out (4.00 / 4)
Paul, in regards to (1) you should have mentioned that this tax cut deal MIGHT RAISE TAXES ON MOST WORKING PEOPLE:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

This needs to be discussed more!  Obama's wonderful deal trades a tax cut by percentage--which isn't much at the bottom of the income scale--for a tax cut in absolute dollars.  So if you make less than average your taxes will go UP.  


Good Point (0.00 / 0)
I was trying to be brief, but this point deserves to be made over and over again.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Brief (0.00 / 0)
Well, as the old saying goes, "brevity is. . . wit."

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Filibuster Chart (0.00 / 0)
That chart would be better if it reflect which party was filibustering.  The year implies it, but a red/blue balance would be great.


I'm trying to think of one instance in which Dems filibustered anything in the last decade. (0.00 / 0)
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I can't think of one. Not a single one. During the Bushist Junta, Senate Dems felt it "rude" to filibuster, so they didn't. Whenever a Feingold or similar decided to filibuster, they were always brought into line... especially since no one ever backed them up.

So I believe the solid red bars are rather accurate, even in terms of partisan distribution.

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates


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Downward counterfactuals (0.00 / 0)
I look at the perceptions of President Obama and his "accomplishments" in terms of upward and downward counterfactuals, in addition to, as Paul says, "what do you get in the end?"

Upward counterfactuals look at "how much better it would have been if..."-these reduce satisfaction with reality but help individuals prepare for better performance in the future. The "sanctimonious purists" with whom the President parts company are engaging in upward counterfactuals-and rightly so.

Downward counterfactuals look at "how much worse it would have been if..."-and engender a sense of complacency and satisfaction; to me, they can be rationalizations for "settling" or, worse, defeatist.

The entire line from the Obama administration and its most ardent supporters has been, among other things, one long exercise in downward counterfactualism-"it would have been even worse if we had not gotten x," x being a mere fraction of or some inferior alternative to what was sought (as occurred in health care "reform," extension of unemployment benefits), not even what might be considered "ideal," or something no one could have or should have opposed (as in the START treaty, food safety, health care for 9/11 responders). These downward counterfactuals act as rationalizations for, on the one hand, as Paul says, the slow motion dismantling of the New Deal (as well as the wholesale undermining of liberal programs and philosophy, generally) and, on the other, as justifications for corporate-driven policy.


I like that one - (0.00 / 0)
'counterfactualism' - and I think in the coming years (2) - I'm going to join the 'counterfactualists' - I always wanted to find out what would happen if these mad Republicans would have won this Nov.

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or after listening to Roubini - (0.00 / 0)
should I write off the next two years and check back 'in' in 2012?

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Excellent Point (0.00 / 0)
And, of course, when running for office there was none of that downward counterfactual talk, no siree!  It was all talk about how much better things could be!  

Gosh! Why are people so confused and upset?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Hmm, it must be... (0.00 / 0)
...because they're sanctimonious purists!

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people are confused - (0.00 / 0)
because they never heard of 'downward' counterfactual talk before - It actually is a completely unknown known in the homeland - There is only upward counterfactualism which might masquerade as downward counterfactualism!  

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