A Thought Experiment About Voting Rights

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Oct 18, 2008 at 12:00


Let's suppose, for the sake of argument, that GOP attacks on ACORN were true.  Let's suppose that:
  1. The fraudelent registrations turned in by ACORN workers (who ACORN subsequently fired) and that were flagged by ACORN as suspicious were actually produced intentionally by ACORN, for the purposes of producing bogus registrations that would then be used to cast illegal votes; and

  2. ACORN actually had an organized scheme to get folks registered under the names of famous athletes (rather than totally obscure semi-pro players, or even Little Leaguers), and to get four or five people all registered under the same name, rather than under four or five different names, as a clever way of not calling attention to its nefarious plans to corrupt the election process; and

  3. ACORN also had arranged to get a few thousand people nationwide to risk felony convictions for voting illegally, even though this had never been done before in the history of America.  Say they managed to get 5,000 people to cast illegal ballots--roughly two to three orders of magnitude more than the total number of illegal acts of voting prosecuted since 2000.

Let us further suppose that this was all thoroughly investigated, but none of this became public knowledge through the media.  Which would the GOP rather have?

    (A) All the 5,000 illegal ballots were thrown out.

    (B) All the 1.3 million legal, low- and moderate-income voters--60-70% minority--who ACORN registered were thrown out.

So, (A) 5,000 votes, or (B) 1,300,000 votes.  Which is the GOP really concerned about?

And conversely, why in the world would ACORN try to get a few thousand people to vote illegaly, and undermine all the hard work it did to register 1.3 million new voters?

Paul Rosenberg :: A Thought Experiment About Voting Rights
It only takes a moment's reflection on all the above to realize that the charges made against ACORN are utterly and totally nonsensical.  Unless....

Unless all the above is only the tip of the iceberg.  And that, of course, is precisely the nameless dread that the conservative/GOP noise machine and the McCain campaign are trying to tap into.  It's the very same sort of dread that the Federalists tapped into in 1798 when they passed the Alien and Sedition Acts, and when they embraced the myth of the Bavarian Illuminati in the wake of their utter defeat in the election of 1800, the first realigning election in American history.

The Bavarian Illuminati had been a secret society--for a combination of two reasons: First, Bavaria was not the sort of place where one just up and established a Royal Society. It was not Britain.  Second, there was already a tradition of secret societies where those interested in knowledge outside the purview of the Church could gather.  Since an open society was likely to draw unwanted attention, enmity in high circles, and eventual suppression, the secret society model was chosen instead.

Wikipedia explains:

This movement was founded on May 1, 1776, in Ingolstadt (Upper Bavaria), by Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt (d. 1830),[2] who was the first lay professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt.[3] The movement was made up of freethinkers, as an offshoot of the Enlightenment[4], which some amateur historians believe was a conspiracy to infiltrate and overthrow the governments of many European states.[5][6].[unreliable source?] The group's adherents were given the name "Illuminati", although they called themselves "Perfectibilists". The group has also been called the Illuminati Order and the Bavarian Illuminati, and the movement itself has been referred to as Illuminism (after illuminism). In 1777, Karl Theodor, Elector Palatine, succeeded as ruler of Bavaria. He was a proponent of Enlightened Despotism and in 1784, his government banned all secret societies, including the Illuminati.

While it was not legally allowed to operate, many influential intellectuals and progressive politicians counted themselves as members, including Ferdinand of Brunswick and the diplomat Xavier von Zwack.[7] Xavier von Zwack was also the number two man in the operation and was caught with much of the group's documentation when his home was searched. The Illuminati's members pledged obedience to their superiors, and were divided into three main classes, each with several degrees.[8] The order had its branches in most countries of the European continent; it reportedly had around 2,000 members over the span of 10 years.[9] The scheme had its attraction for literary men, such as Johann Wolfgang von Goethe and Johann Gottfried Herder, and even for the reigning dukes of Gotha and Weimar. Internal rupture and panic over succession preceded its downfall, which was effected by The Secular Edict made by the Bavarian government in 1785.

Although they had been disbanded for some time, several apologists for the overthrown French monarchy and aristocracy latched onto the Bavarian Illuminati and blamed them for the French Revolution.  It was not incredibly bad misrule that lead the French people to revolt, in this fantasy version of history, but instead it was a shadow elite of atheist intellectuals bent on world domination who tricked the people into turning on their God-annointed hereditary leaders.  (Sound familiar?)

Although centered in Bavaria, the Illuminati did have corresponding memebers scattered across Europe, so there was at least a thin reed of plausibility underlying the wild fantasy.  However, even this was utterly missing when it came to America.  Nonetheless, after their defeat in 1800, the Federalists were desperate, and for a time belief that the Illuminati were behind their political downfall was widespread.  And so it was that in America, as well as Europe, belief in the Bavarian Illuminati became the template for modern rightwing conspiricism.

The very fact that there was no evidence of their existence was taken as proof of it: only such a thoroughly diabolical and endlessly powerful organizaiton could keep virtually all evidence of its existence so well hidden from view!

And so it is with ACORN's massive voter fraud in the conspiratorial fantasies of the GOP and the conservative movement of today.  With all the power of the federal government at their hands, they were utterly unable to uncover any evidence of massive voter fraud.  (In fact, they could hardly find more than a hundred cases of registration fraud, fewer than ACORN itself had uncovered as it fired workers who turned in bogus registrations.)

In the rational world, such a failure to turn up any evidence of a massive conspiracy would be taken as fairly conclusive proof that no such conspiracy existed.  But what fun is that?


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acorn "vote fraud" (4.00 / 3)
yes, and the idiots in the press continue to treat this stupidity as if it were really a story. proof again that all political reporters are scum.

Especially CNN ... (4.00 / 2)
Faux Noise was obviously going to jump on this ... but CNN? .. They have been just as bad as Faux .. man .. CNN has gone to shit since Ted Turner sold it

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I think that CNN is doing this for ratings (0.00 / 0)
Finding themselves squeezed beteen Fox on the far right and MSNBC on the center-left, CNN is trying to find its niche on the center-right, and this is part of that. Plus, drumming up fake controversy is always good for ratings, however journalistically reprehensible. They're going after the non-ideological dumb voter crowd, who like bright shiny objects.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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Is there big enough space? .. (0.00 / 0)
because the mouth breathers will always consider CNN as a bunch of liberal, un-American commies .. so they are basically squeezing themselves

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I'm watching CNN right now (0.00 / 0)
And I may have to revise my "ratings only" assumption. It's Lou Dobbs, which should be a giveaway, but it's all about the "left-wing activist organization ACORN" and how it's engaged in widespread vote and voter registration fraud. Any idiot can tell that Dobbs is a dishonest far-right nutjob who's a Republican in everything but name (and then only because it hasn't been far-right enough for his fat racist ass).

But this is also CNN, which means that someone high up is ok with, and tacitly endorses, these misleading smear stories. Whether this is because they want Obama to lose, because they think it's good for ratings, or because they want to attract the Fox Lite crowd, I don't know, but it's clearly willfully irresponsible, yellow journalism at its worst.

And the followup story is about Tim Mahoney, who I grant appears to be a first class asshole who deserves to lose, but he's also a Democrat. I don't watch CNN as much as I used to--with Keith and Rachel and the occasionally honest Matthews on MSNBC, I have no use for the airheads and hacks at CNN. But clearly, they have lots of viewers who assume that they're honest and responsible. And they appear to be engaged in smearing Dems. Unlike Fox, I doubt that it's ideological, and I'm guessing that it's about market share and helping out the party that's been so good to it in the past. But dishonesty is dishonesty.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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You Need To Spend More Time Watching DVDs Of Buffy (0.00 / 0)
That "news channel" stuff will rot your brain.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Come on, Paul, gimme a break (0.00 / 0)
I just got a new TV/monitor (old one about ready to give up the ghost) and am "breaking it in". Plus, it's the weekend, I'm home sick, MSNBC is showing non-stop episodes of Lockup, and I like to tune in from time to time to see if things are still as bad over there. At least I've yet to break my no-Fox--EVER pledge. And I'm spending time HERE too, aren't I?

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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At least you have a choice! (0.00 / 0)
Comcast doesn't see free to provide us with MSNBC. We get CNBC, and I want those folks dead (or at least mute!)

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Damn, MSNBC is one of the only reasons (0.00 / 0)
that I have non-basic cable, and I have Comcast too. While it's had an understandably lower priority lately, telcom regulation is going to be an important issue over the next few years. There IS no "free market" in that market. I want a la carte channels!

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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Muted pushback (4.00 / 3)
So far, we have some decent (but not great) response from Obama about this. But once again, the Democrats are getting rolled. What they SHOULD be doing is showing up on every TV show accusing Republicans of suppressing the votes of real Americans. They should find real people affected by this and get them in front of the camera to ask why the Republican party thinks they shouldn't be able to vote.

Democrats aren't smart enough to do that, though.

By the way, this post is excellent, and as you say, if this were a rational world, facts would matter. But facts don't matter.


Facts vs. Myths (4.00 / 2)
My next diary on this focuses specifically on why facts don't matter.  The liberal tradition--closely aligned with the growoth of empiricism and science--simply takes for granted that facts are important.  But the fact is, that for many people they are not.

[Not-] "Joe" the [not-] "plumber" was a perfect example of this.  He was pure mythos.  Everything about him was factually false--even as it was mythically "true", at least for the right and the Versailles media.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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But wasn't the Myth of Joe the Plumber quickly debunked? (0.00 / 0)
Even CNN was mocking him within 24 hours as essentially a fraud. I've got to believe that lots of swing voters saw through the BS, and lost even more respect for McCain over it. Same as with Palin, whose dishonest facade has been steadily chipped away by the steady drip drip drip of inconvenient facts coming out about her. So I'm not convinced that facts, per se, don't matter, although the way that they are presented to voters is very important, obviously.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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A Very Hopeful Sign` (4.00 / 1)
Yes, "Joe The Plumber" was quickly debunked, but there was still at least a full news cycle out there that was totally adoring, totally in the tank, totally oblivious of reality.

So, in this instance, at least, we've made considerable progress.  But it took a great deal of effort just to get the media to do the most fundamental Reporting 101 kinds of things that it should have been doing all along.

The View is still the place to go to get serious political analysis this election cycle.  That says it all.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Well, there were several news cycles that were adoring of Palin (0.00 / 0)
And look at how that's indisputibly backfired on McCain.

I'm actually less concerned about the short-term disadvantages of having a cliquish, brain-dead and shallow press, which the GOP continues to be good at exploiting over the short term (e.g. "voter fraud", "celebrity", "McCain suspends his campaign"), and which is going to take years to overcome, than in the longer-term blowback that has increasingly come to haunt the GOP as it continues to persue this "bright shiny one news cycle object" approach to politics, which is all played out and doing it far more damage than good at this point.

Issues are back in style, and fluff is not. It started, I think, with Schiavo, and is even truer today, after Katrina, the ongoing disaster that is Iraq, and now the economic meltdown. Voters might still be disinclied to examine issues substantively, but they're at least now acknowledging that they ARE substantive, as opposed to the nonsense that used to make up most political "news", such as who you'd like to have a beer with, brush-clearing, windsurfing, etc. When your 401k has lost 30% and you're one paycheck away from foreclosure, stuff like that has a way of not being important anymore, and the party that doesn't get this does so at its peril. And, clearly, it doesn't get it, as it keeps throwing out one non-issue after another, futily. ACORN! Voter Fraud! Maverick! CRA! Socialist! Hockey Mom! Lipstick! Moose!

None of it has worked, and much of it has arguably hurt it.

Substance is in style again, even if it's still dealt with superficially.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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It's really quite simple (0.00 / 0)
It makes absolutely no sense that an organization that would seek to perpetrate massive vote fraud would do so in such an obvious and stupid way, e.g. Mickey Mouse, Dallas Cowboys, etc. And even if they were also using more sophisticated and harder to detect methods such as registering recently deceased peoples' names, why on earth would they endanger that by also registering Mickey Mouse, and thus drawing attention to themselves?

This is the kind of response that should be targeted at the Joe Sixpack crowd in knocking down these voter fraud accusations. Short, simple, easy to understand, hard to rebut.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


Are you telling us the Iluminati are behind ACORN? (4.00 / 1)
And all this time I thought it was the Templars.

Montani semper liberi

It's The Vikings (4.00 / 1)
When we were kids, my sister and I determined that the John Birch Society were nothing but stooges for the worldwide Viking conspiracy.

"The Vikings are coming! The Vikings are coming!" was our battle-cry.  And we had good reason to worry: Even though we both had brown hair, like our mother and father, our younger brother was blond and blue-eyed--a sure sign of Viking infiltration!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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ACORN's supposed massive voter fraud is conspiracy fantasy (0.00 / 0)
The GOP as you say has all the power of the federal government at their hands and yet are unable to uncover any evidence of massive voter fraud. In fact, they hardly found anything and as you say ACORN itself uncovered and fired workers who weren't doing the registrations correctly. It's more McSame, more politics of personal destruction out of the Bush white house.

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