America's delusional politics

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat May 01, 2010 at 10:30


What's wrong with this picture?  

The Democrats midterm message is easy to understand: we've done things to help you, and Republicans are obstructionists for the sake of politics, want to bring back failed Wall Street friendly ideas, and are increasingly captive to the Tea Party audience. This is a good message for the core of the Obama coalition, but does it work for the midterm electorate -- particularly this midterm electorate?

Obama ran on a fundamental promise to make government work for the better, and Republicans believe they've blocked him from achieving that goal, and that the economy, combined with their own scorched earth strategy, has left voters extremely skeptical of government intervention again.


In what universe does it make sense for a party to seek political power on the open and avowed basis of preventing others from fixing dire problems? Not just refusing to help solve problems, mind you.  That would be irresponsible  enough.  But actively working to block  any solutions whatsoever? In what universe does that make sense?

That is not a rhetorical question.  Because the answer, obviously, is "ours." But why is our universe the way it is?  Understanding the "logic" to our universe is the key to changing it--or at least, in the short term, surviving long enough to have a chance to change it.

My explanation rests on three key points:

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(1) Conservatives believe that they should rule the world.  Liberals, not so much. Liberals tend to believe much more in process-that whoever wins elections should rule, and that ideally whoever's ideas are best should prevail.  As long as there are processes in place protecting basic rights, liberals tend to trust the political process-or at, to trust its legitimacy.  Conservatives, OTOH, tend to regard any loss of power as somehow illegitimate.

This is a pattern that holds true around the world.  

(2) What makes America different is that conservatives have never ruled America in the same sort of virtually uncontested way that they have ruled other countries, and for that reason, they have never trusted the state, never assumed control of it the way that conservatives in other countries do--and know they can do, even when they are out of power.  Although far from perfect, from the very beginning America's democratic republic left far too much power lying around where conservative elites couldn't control it in their sleep, which is the way that divinely sanctioned monarchies and the like have always been run.  (Oh, sure, you have other scheming elites to watch out for.  You can't control them in your sleep.  But that's not the topic at hand.)

And thus Bismark-style or Vatican-style conservatism was never a viable option once the slave power was defeated, although there was a brief period of hope in the 1920s, before the conservative dream collapsed in the greatest economic catastrophe ever known.  And thus, American conservatism has always been fundamentally seditious in a way that no other brand of conservatism in the world has been. Which is not to say its politics are unique, only that elsewhere they go under a less confusing, less contradictory name:  they are reactionaries, nativists, proto-[and not-so-proto-]fascists and the like.  They are of the right, but they are not conservatives.  Only in America they are.  America: where liberals are the true conservatives, the forgers of the constitution, and the governing philosophy it is based on, and the preservers of social stability by adopting policies of gradual change and political accommodation to create a single polity out of a roaring flux of change and transformation that would otherwise long ago have split the nation asunder.

(3) But 9/11 changed everything.  9/11 provided an opening for American conservatives to openly proclaim the secret dream they had always harbored--that someday they actually might dominate and control America the way that conservatives had dominated other countries.  Of course, conservative "thinkers" and political operatives had long dreamed of such a triumph, but political realities were heavily against them.  The welfare state was far too popular--it delivered far too much, and worked far too well for the majority of Americans.  Americans were also far too rebellious.  They liked their freedoms too much.  And they were too well-off--too far removed from abject poverty and hereditary dependence to let their self-styled betters boss them around unthinkingly.  The best conservatives could hope for was to keep conning people, preserving popular liberal forms, while corrupting their purpose and effective.  Shutting the government down was a loser, but repurposing government to suit elite needs first and foremost--that was doable.  And that is what they set out to do.

But then 9/11 happened, and they got all stupid and greedy.  Well, make that an order of magnitude more stupid and greedy than they had previously been.  This is where the neo-cons--never very large in numbers--managed to take the helm for a while, and the broader movement toward "big government" conservatism (aka "national greatness" conservatism) gained significant momentum.  This was an unusual development in American conservatism: a return to the norm of what conservatism  has always meant in most of the rest of the world.  Of course, it didn't last.  It was built on far too shoddy foundations.  And so now the conservatives are back to their same old seditious anti-American ways, only fueled with a new, even more vitriolic anger and hostility, because their dream had come so close, and because they had so utterly and totally botched it.  

So, back to their same old same old, with greater hostility than ever. They want the government to fail because they want everything to fail that they don't 100% control.  They want America to fail because they want everything to fail that they don't 100% control.  

This is the universe we live in.  This is the universe in which it seems perfectly normal for a Versailles analyst to write:

The Democrats midterm message is easy to understand: we've done things to help you, and Republicans are obstructionists for the sake of politics, want to bring back failed Wall Street friendly ideas, and are increasingly captive to the Tea Party audience. This is a good message for the core of the Obama coalition, but does it work for the midterm electorate -- particularly this midterm electorate?

Obama ran on a fundamental promise to make government work for the better, and Republicans believe they've blocked him from achieving that goal, and that the economy, combined with their own scorched earth strategy, has left voters extremely skeptical of government intervention again.

And not think anything the least bit strange.

Can I burn your house down for you now?

It's the conservative thing to do, you see.  It will make you more secure.  Also, much freer.

Think of it this way:  When you've got nothing, you've got nothing to lose.


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another reason maby (4.00 / 4)
Perhaps the conservatives are fighting all change because they can't see any benifit for them if dems fix the repub failed policies. Knowing the people would welcome relief from the politics of "hurray for the rich, and to hell with the majority" conservatives had no other choice. They haven't made any corrections to their anti people policies of "supply side" scam or tax reduction for the richest at everyone else's expense or deregulation. An honest look in the mirror would be painfull for them.

I would like to see obstruction from our side the next time conservatives are in power, to save some of the things we have accomplished, and at least slow the rightward march into fascism, and a two tiered society.

Government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob..... FDR


John Milton and Bobby McGee (4.00 / 5)
The dark nature of what you present in point 2, Paul, was beautifully summarized by John Milton in "paradise Lost":  It is better to rule in hell than serve in heaven.  To some extent the ideal conservative hell is one that may be hell for 99% of the population but manages to be heaven for the remaining 1%.

How does that manage to sell to the remaining 99%?  Well, some are wannabes.  They wannabe the 1% and some how figure that this is the route.  Others are deluded by a warped Calvinist philosophy that glorifies the rich as morally superior and singled out by God.

Much of the rest reminds me of an old song, Bobby McGee.  Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Nothin' ain't worth nothin' but it's free.  Janis Joplin, IIRC, came from a very conservative family in Texas.  She certainly left that behind and became free but that is not the warped Bushite version.

Interesting stuff.


Actually, I Was Quioting Dylan, Not Joplin (4.00 / 1)
One of the many tragedies of Joplin's early death is that we never got to hear her do an album of Dylan covers.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Unique (4.00 / 1)
She had such a unique voice that could not be replaced.   Too many left so soon that there were voids in what could have been done.

It's really off topic but I always felt that the proper version of Country Roads should have been done by Elvis in his rockabilly period.  Mountain mama would have had a whole different sound and a lot more meaning.  Of course, that was way too early for the song and Elvis never recorded Country Roads.


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Just as Jimi's untimely early death (0.00 / 0)
deprived us of decades of his reinterpretations of blues and jazz classics.

Not to get too off-topic, but:



"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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My mind when to a very different place (4.00 / 2)
when I read your question. Without taking anything away from what you've written, here's my thought - conservatives have proclaimed this because it "works."

It works because it is convincing to the Village, especially the media. The guiding principle of the corporate media is power - those who have it are reasonable and legitimate, those who lack it are off-the-wall and outside the bounds of legitimate debate.  Whether the stand that is taken is nonsensical is simply irrelevant to this question. The claim that this stance is crazy, irrational or fact-free is simply illegible to them - as if it is a foreign language.  

Democrats, attuned to Village power dynamics not the populace, are "cowering behind the shower curtains," as Governor Ed said, in response.  

Spending some time in the wilderness, it made sense for the netroots, organized liberalism and activists to break the Republican majorities.  But now we have a different task - unmobilized public opinion has no effect on politics.  The needs and interests of voters are not the sole or even the primary driving force in politics.  Either we find a way to mobilize public opinion, or this elite dance continues to, at best, fail to address the significant problems we face. (The alternative is that the Village actually makes things worse, which is probably more often the case.)

Part of that project involves precisely your point - showing what the conservative resurgence in politics has done and is about.  It also means confronting it boldly with our own vision.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


Oh, I Agree Completely! (4.00 / 2)
As I've said so often about so many things, it's not an either/or situation.

That said, however, the reason this works is at least in part because of the dynamic I've laid out, played out over a period of decades--even centuries.

You raise excellent points about where we are now, and what needs to be done.  Public opinion, plus facts, plus organization and mobilization--all the pieces are necessary.

The one thing that you don't address is the elite's clueless embrace of a clearly disastrous political trajectory.

But, then, that's what all elites do, historically.  Versailles is eternal.  It just keeps coming back over, and over and over again.  "Eternal recurrance", Nietzche called it.



"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Power Elites Are Entrenched (4.00 / 1)
Agree with your post, but even with this insane message, their insane actions since Obama was elected, and abysmal performance of Bush II, we cannot overlook the fact that this same method has been working for them since Reagan.

The Democrats including Obama have to play hard ball attack messaging ALL SUMMER LONG in order to beat the message in , and make it stick that Republicans wrecked our country.  But honestly, I don't see them doing it, they regard this as dangerously "populist" rather than telling the truth loud and clear.  Obama has been too centrist, too concerned with getting us back to the good old days of 2007, and the rest of the Democrats will not be able to pierce the MSM news veil unless Obama leads the charge.

You cannot let the Teabaggers rule the news all summer again, you have to tell them the truth: that they have been screwed by their own power elite, that they will be screwed again by their own power elite again if they put the Republicans back in charge.  (Do I expect this to change them?  No, but we have to have them responding to attacks rather than running wild on the news.)

And, we're going to have to go after the Blue Dogs as corporate lackeys too.  Anybody who expected Senator Lincoln to propose an amendment to regulate derivatives without pressure from the left is living in lala land.


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Yes, And Aristocratic Rule Worked For France For Generations (4.00 / 2)
But the denizens of Versailles still lost their heads in the end.

Elites "earn" their power and status when they see beyond their own noses, and steer beyond the shoals that would otherwise sink the ship of state.

That's how they "earn" their privileges, however disproporationate. When they steer right for the rocks, not so much.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Another explanation (0.00 / 0)
When comparing the United States to other first-world countries, the obvious difference isn't that we had a 9/11 and they didn't (other countries have had worse disasters) or that conservatives in this country think they should rule the world.  Rather, the most obvious difference is that America has a loud, active, and extremely reactionary religious wing that more-or-less owns a political party.  Other countries simply don't have nihilistic, apocalyptic figures like the Tea Baggers who would rather see their country decay than succeed under a different belief system.

Yes, Ironically (4.00 / 1)
the fact that we don't have a powerful state-sanctioned church has helped a caucaphony of sects to bloom, a good many of which are now clearly deep into heretical territory, not to mention just plain nuts.

But this is a relatively recent twist, as many of these sects have descended from previously rather progressive roots.

I'm presenting a telescoped historical/political snaphshot analysis here, and the transformations that have produced this kind of ethno-religious fanaticism in our midst are more effect of the basic dynamic laid out in (1) and (2) than they are an independent cause.

Furthermore, 9/11 itself is not the point.  It's the timing and how it enabled a small minority of a minority (the neo-cons, not the theo-cons) to push the envelope over the edge and into the underliverable abyss (neither ash-heap nor mailbox) of history.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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They're Still Very Close (4.00 / 1)
..And so now the conservatives are back to their same old seditious anti-American ways, only fueled with a new, even more vitriolic anger and hostility, because their dream had come so close, and because they had so utterly and totally botched it.

I'm not so sure they so utterly and totally botched it.  GW Bush's regime was a rousing success in their view, save for two aspects 1) it failed to produce a solid, multi-generational Republican majority (like what followed FDR & the New Deal), and 2) they didn't get as far as they wanted to in the Middle East.

But in every other respect they did great damage to both government and to people's faith in it.  Government finances (massive debt) and a ruined economy which further guts that meddlesome middle class are both wins, in their eyes.  The ball got moved way far ahead during Bush's tenure, in their eyes.

Obama is doing what he can to remedy some of these ills, but he and the Congress are way too compromised and compromising to even want to fundamentally change things.  And so the wrecking crew sits this one out till 2012 or 2016, taking a breather, smug in their confidence that their work cannot be undone, and then they'll begin again.  


The meta political fight (0.00 / 0)
The GOP tactics are an all-out assault to reverse a narrative that endangered their political foundation: That government actually matters and has a legitimate role/place in society. That sounds like hyperbole, but as the economy teetered on the brink after a decade of GOP rule, characterized by inaction and incompetence (crystallized by Katrina), a large segment of the population changed its view about the role and scope of government. It's really quite simple -- if the public approves of government and government action, the GOP is screwed.

The overarching meta political fight we have right now is about the scope and role of government. The crash and burn conclusion of GOP rule (including the near Great Depression), at least for a time changed American's view of the scope/role of government, and the election of Obama and the Democrats in that environment represented a mortal threat to the entire GOP political foundation.

Everything the GOP has been messaging in response -- socialism, government take-overs, czars, death panels, Tea Parties, HCR = takeover of one-sixth of the economy, government controls over half the private sector, controlling executive pay, financial reform as permanent government takeover/bailout etc. -- everything, even when it seemingly cuts against populist politics -- has been focused on reversing and winning the scope/scale of government meta narrative. Joe Klein has bought in, hook, line and sinker.

While jobs and the state of the economy will be the foundation for voting this fall, what the Dems need to do is to remind people what GOP rule was like and why the role of government is important. Remind them of what it was like when the government really did nothing and we almost crashed and burned. People used to HATE the GOP, with good reason. Maybe we should remind them why.

...Adding, we shouldn't dismiss that a significant segment of the GOP base are essentially petulant children who were used to being on top and suddenly had their toy taken away by an uppity, know-it-all negro. Their natural reaction is to lash out in childish tantrums, err, tea parties...

...Adding x2, Dems/progressives have largely been on the losing end of this meta narrative since Reagan. The 2008 election was (and could have been a generational) a sea change in the public view of the role/scope of government. I'm afraid a timid White House and feckless/weak Democratic messaging are losing the narrative and the generational opportunity.

Self-refuting Christine O'Donnell is proof monkeys are still evolving into humans


I No Longer Think Obama Was Timid (4.00 / 2)
I think he's a Reganite supply-sider.  He did what he actually believed in.

His deficit summit this week is a further indication of this, along with his attack on the Warren & even the Burger courts.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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There was a great Tom Tomorrow "Modern World" cartoon (4.00 / 2)
that had Cheney and his cronies as DFH in the late sixties deciding the way to destroy the conservatives was to infiltrate them, come to power, and then be so inept that the conservative movement would be totally demolished.

So we see them leaving office congratulating themselves on a job well done.

But then we flash back to the early eighties and we discover that Obama and his cronies were young Republicans who decided to infiltrate the Democratic Party, come to power, and then implement the conservative dream.

The last shot is Cheney and his cronies, now including Sarah Palin, in 2009 wondering what went wrong.

http://www.salon.com/ent/comic...

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Well, There's A Reason He's Called "Tom Tomorrow" (0.00 / 0)
Always one step ahead!

(btw, TMW is the regular Random Lengths editorial page cartoon.)

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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By What Incomprehensible Logic (0.00 / 0)
.. could Barack Hussein Obama ever be considered a supply-sider? Stimulus?? Government takeover of GM??? He can reasonably be called many things but a Reaganite supply-sider is most definitely not one of them.

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So? Reagan Raised Taxes Dramatically (4.00 / 1)
when it proved necessary.  In fact, one could probably argue that Reagan was more of Keynesian than Obama is.

More of a nuclear disarmer, too.  At least to this point.

Like the way you use his middle name, BTW.  It makes your rantings so much more textually rich.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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It can really be summed up this way (4.00 / 3)
Conservatives: Whaaaaaa! Me wants what you haves.

Liberals: Well, we can give you half.

Conservatives: Whaaaaaa! No, me wants all what you haves.

Liberals: Ok, here, take it, so long as you leave us alone.

Conservatives: Whaaaaaa! You no understands. We wants ALL.

To conservatives, it's not about ideology, principles, values, etc. To conservatives, it's all about id, and id always justifies means.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


It's Not ALL About Id (0.00 / 0)
There's egomania, too!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Whaaaaaaa! Id Id Id Id Id! (4.00 / 1)
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"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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Paul, I didn't understand the final paragraph of your second point fully. (0.00 / 0)
I got lost with the statement that "they" are not conservative but "they" are the right.  Was that "they" U.S. or non-U.S.?  Then the point about liberals being the true conservatives and I was flummoxed.

Could you expound more on that point to help me get it?  ::smile:: Thanks.

By the way, you are one of the very few voices who have helped me keep my sanity in this insane world of Obama.  Thank you.

Educate, Agitate, Organize, Mobilize, Act!


What I'm Saying (0.00 / 0)
is that American "conservatives"--as a movement--are not conservatives as the term is generally understood around the world, but are, instead, members of the right who are more extreme than conseratives.  This doesn't apply to many everyday folks who may call themselves "conservatives", but it DOES apply to organized conservatism over the past 4 decades or so.

As for "liberalism is the true conservatism," I really should have linked to my November 2006 diary of the same name, which begins thus:

Ever since the Bush regime began noticeably sputtering near the beginning of its second term, a growing chorus of conservative voices has grown increasingly distressed, and as it has seemed that Bush's failures would come to tar an entire movement, the cry has increasingly gone forth that Bush is not a "true conservative." There is a problem in that claim, of course: it was not Bush alone, but his entire Administration, and the Republican majority in Congress, and at times a majority of conservative court appointees as well who were jointly responsible for the increasingly disastrous direction that the country has taken.  If Bush was not a "true conservative," then neither, one would think, were any of the other major players in the conservative movement of the past 30-plus years.

Absurd!

Or is it?

The rhetoric of "personal responsibility" has never applied to movement conservatives themselves.  It's always been for other people.  The same is true of "fiscal conservatism"--no one can unbalance a budget like Ronald Reagan and the two Bushes, but let a Democrat, like Bill Clinton, take the helm, and watch out!  Fiscal conservatism is back with a vengeance.  Judicial restraint is similarly "for liberals only," as a study of Supreme Court decisions showed the conservatives far more willing to overturn laws than their moderate brethren (rhetoric aside, there are no true liberals left on the court.)  Conservatives have not lived up to their rhetoric in a long, long time.

But aside from such signature rallying cries, there is something much deeper going on, something not merely of the moment, or even of a generation, but something fundamental about the very essence of the liberal project and the conservative opposition over the past 500 years.  Throughout this period--and one can go back even further, to the Italian Renaissance--conservatives have attacked liberals for undermining the established social order.  Liberals, of course, have not seen things that way--with rare, but important exceptions, such as overthrowing the established social order of British colonial rule over the American colonies, or overthrowing the established social order of slavery.  

Generally, however, liberals have cared less about the social order, and more about people themselves; and for this reason they have not generally engaged in directly countering the conservative critique.  This is quite understandable, really.  For conservatives, the social order is much more real than individual people are. For liberals, the reverse is true.  And both sides naturally express themselves in terms of what is most real to them.  

Yet, in doing so, liberals have made a significant mistake, for the liberal philosophy is actually far superior to conservative alternatives when it comes to a number of key conservative ideals.  For example, liberalism is superior in preserving social order and harmony in a dynamically changing, and diverse world--a world in which traditional structures commonly fail, causing widespread chaos and strife. Liberalism is not the cause of such change--as conservatives commonly allege--but rather its facilitator, providing means of managing change so intense that it would otherwise tear societies apart.  A prime example is the idea of a modern secular state has proven fundamentally important in putting an end to religious wars, which otherwise threaten perpetual strife.



"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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