Defining a Movement

by: Jenifer Fernandez Ancona

Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 14:00:00 PM EDT


Note: see video intro above for more, and contact me if you wish at jenifer[at]anconastrategy[dot]com. This is my first post on Open Left. Thanks so much to Chris, Matt and Mike for the opportunity! I am a San Francisco-based writer, activist and strategist working in the progressive movement. In these Monday columns I will be sharing with you insights and commentary on movement politics from my perspective, which is very much rooted in the traditions and politics of historical movements for progressive social change. I look forward to the conversation.

There has been some great discussion on Open Left over the last few days analyzing movement-building in historical context, initiated by Mike Lux, and continued by Paul Rosenberg and others throughout the weekend. These writers have asked important questions, like "Where did we go wrong?", "How did we lose," or more specifically, "What was the larger social context that caused the conservative movement to succeed and ours to fail?" The part I want to add to this discussion is around defining the kind of movement we want and need to build, because having a good understanding of what a successful movement looks like is part of the work we need to do to build it. Much of the discussion thus far has been on the relationship between insiders and outsiders. As Mike said:

I believe instead that we need to build our own kind of movement, one that is fueled by a more egalitarian and communal culture. Sort of, well, an Open Left…

I agree that this is a relevant and important component for us to understand. But it is just that -- a component. There is another piece that isn't talked about enough, and that I think is equally if not more important: the disconnect between the largely white progressive world and the people-of-color-led groups and social justice-focused movements that are necessary to building our long-term winning coalition. We could have an "Open Left," as Mike suggests. But if the leadership of that movement reflected that of the organizations listed under that heading on the right column of this website right now, it's important to point out that it would be largely white and male. And I think we all agree that is not what our movement looks like.

What is a Movement?

The word "movement" is thrown around a lot these days, in the blogosphere and in progressive politics (as anyone who is on any Democratic candidate's email list knows). In this context, I think we would all do better to more fully understand what a movement really is. Northwestern University Professor Aldon Morris writes of the four essential components of movement-building in his book, The History of the Civil Rights Movement. I often come back to this, because I find it incredibly useful in thinking about movement-building today. Morris, who devoted 30 years of scholarship to studying movements and what works, says successful movements need:

- A compelling narrative with symbols

- Mass membership organizations

- Indigenous local leadership

- Communication channels


It's encouraging that groups like the Democracy Alliance and the New Progressive Coalition, who are trying to figure out how to fund the emerging multi-issue progressive movement, have a similar framework to Morris'. They are working to invest in organizations in four broad categories: ideas, civic engagement, leadership and media. These are also the areas, of course, that conservatives like John Olin and Richard Scaife focused on when they set out to invest in a conservative movement.
Jenifer Fernandez Ancona :: Defining a Movement
If we think of the movement in this way -- and if we insist that each of these areas must be multi-issue and have multi-racial leadership -- it is easier to see where the gaps are, and what the opportunities are for improvement. My own analysis is that in the progressive movement we are most sorely lacking on the narrative and the communication channels.  There has been much work just in the last year or so to improve on narrative and ideas, as many thinkers and authors and bloggers have explored what it means to be a progressive. But we don't yet have a narrative that fully addresses our vision, particularly when it comes to economics and race. And we still have more to do in finding good symbols. In terms of media, again, there are promising developments, but the reality is that the vast majority of Americans still get their information -- news, but also the values that are embedded into the entertainment culture -- from television and mainstream sources on the Internet, and it is not turning them into progressives, by and large. This is one area where I think the blogs have a lot of potential, but as of now, our reach is not nearly what it needs to be to truly have an impact (this would be an excellent session to explore at YearlyKos sometime).

In terms of the other two components, I think we have a lot more organizing to do to connect our mass membership organizations into a real force, and we probably need more resources devoted to developing our leadership training and pipelines, but the infrastructure is somewhat in place, and is largely multi-racial.

What defines us?

So, learning from the conservatives, and the failings of our own recent history of single-issue-driven politics, progressives are beginning to come together to build a multi-issue movement. Because it is multi-issue, I think it is more about underlying principles than it is about policy or issue-based platforms. One of the principles clearly is participation by a broad cross-section of people, and that includes the democratization of power and openness, which is so often discussed in the blogosphere.

But there has to be something else -- not ideology or issue based, but values-based -- that sets us apart as progressives, and unifies disparate parts of the movement. This is what civil rights veteran Harry Belafonte means, in talking about modern movement-building, when he challenges: Where is our moral center? If we believe, as Martin Luther King, Jr. did, that our destinies are tied up with those of all people in one "single garment of destiny," and "caught in an inescapable network of mutuality," then it should be the lives and experiences of the people who are most oppressed that guide the moral center of our movement. One of the keys to this is making sure that people who come out of these experiences are part of the leadership of the movement. As it stands now, that's not the case for our movement as a whole, in practice.

The immigration battle is just one good example of what happens as a result of the most active parts of the movement being disconnected, and proof that we are simply not applying these lessons from historical movement-building as well as we could. Millions of people marched in the streets last year, in a huge show of just how motivating this issue is for the fastest-growing demographic in the country. The strategic advantage of 12 million new citizens and potential voters is undeniable, and could have been the basis for solidifying a permanent progressive majority (realizing Bill O'Reilly's deepest fears).

And yet, what have we done to embrace and channel our collective energy and resources towards connecting to and building up this part of the movement? Have we put up ActBlue fundraising drives to support the immigrant community-based groups? Are we in regular contact with the multi-racial leaders of the immigrant rights fight so we can help promote their perspective, or do we even know who they are? MoveOn.org is by far the largest "Open Left" designated group with any kind of mass membership capacity that could have been put to work around the immigration issue. Yet a Google search of "MoveOn" and "immigration" turns up nothing. Why is that? I'm not trying to point fingers at them here, as I have had conversations that make me believe this was a movement-wide failure to come to any consensus around immigration. But I think it's a fact worth pointing out, because it helps explain why "open" has to be just one component of analyzing our progress in building a movement. We could have a list three times as long as the one on this site of organizations that embrace openness, but if those groups are not deeply connected to our moral center, what does it really mean?

Obviously, this progressive movement we are building is nascent. But I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't believe with every fiber of my being that its potential is incredibly strong. I don't think the blogosphere as a whole has quite figured out exactly where it fits in. But for now, it is playing a critical role in serving as a venue for hashing out these ideas, and I am very grateful to be taking part in it.

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Defining a Movement | 85 comments
Isn't this diarist an Obama activist? (4.00 / 4)
Isn't she an organizer of Vote Hope 2008, that 527 in California for Obama?  Obama gets support from that "independent" group, but is it really at arm's length?

Why is this association not fully disclosed in her diary?

Will activists for other candidates also be granted front page status?


Why is her affiliation important? (4.00 / 2)
While the Obama campaign is indeed doing this kind of organizing, I'd argue (even as an Edwards supporter) that it makes more sense to emulate the Obama campaign's tactics than to complain that the tactics are associated with them.

Sometimes, it's worth giving the presidential campaign stuff a rest, and looking at the bigger picture. This is one of those times :-)


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Disclosure IS important. (4.00 / 1)
Honesty and openness is important in these political discussions. It is certainly valid to discuss big pictures, but disclosure of our support for a candidate upfront ensures that the discussions will not follow an agenda.

I support Edwards, and let people know that so they will have a fair sense of my intentions within these more general discussions.


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I talked about it in the video intro (4.00 / 6)
Because I thought it was important to disclose that it is a project I am working on right now. But I want to note that what we're doing with Vote Hope is about using the energy of a presidential campaign season to strengthen the movement by training new leaders and bringing more people into the political process. The way you describe is as a "527" is the way the mainstream media has painted it, not the truth.

I'm not here to boost one candidate. I am here to engage in the discussions around movement-building. I have theories, just as others here do, about the best way to build a movement in the context of presidential politics. You may not agree with me on the specifics, and that's fine. It's all part of the discussion.

Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards.


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you need to put this up-front and center (4.00 / 3)
While your post may not be about a particular candidate this time, when someone is working exclusively for one candidate within a specific group, that should be disclosed up front.  Putting it in a video (which many readers may not even click on) is a step in the right direction but how much easier would it be to just say it at the beginning.  Then folks would be focusing on what you're saying here and not why you didn't say something else.

As for calling Vote Hope a 527, it is one and ya'll have used that term yourselves.  In terms of the purpose of Vote Hope, here's what Media Matters is quoting Vote Hope as saying:

Vote Hope's goal is to "get 500,000 early votes pledged and banked for Obama" leading up to the California Democratic primary "by registering and organizing people to vote by mail, and by organizing early voting in key geographic regions." The website also mentions "educating and mobilizing voters about Obama in many non-traditional ways, including online social networking, concerts, faith-based tours and other cultural events."


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Excuse me... (0.00 / 0)
but it was well into the video when you brought up your affiliation.  It is not unlikely that one would not even get that far.

It is very difficult for one to wear two hats.  Sometimes, there is confusion about which hate is being worn.

Why did you not mention your affiliation in the text of the diary?  That would have been proper and most appropriate.  The omission only creates suspicion, as there will be many readers who are unaware of your inclinations, or that you wear two hats.

One could go to your site and easily conclude it is less about empowering people of color and more about electing Obama, regardless of the color of those joining in support.  Because real empowerment of people of color should not come with an endorsement of any one candidate, but helps them form an independent judgment.


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umm... (4.00 / 2)
When in the post did she ever talk about the Obama campaign?

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Whose fault is that? (0.00 / 0)
If the post is too long and people don't bother reading it, does anything said in the second half not count?

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Ask her as a former journalist... (4.00 / 2)
whether or not it's important to disclose her affiliation up front.  I believe the silence violates a cardinal rule of transparency that Obama himself often mentions.

Only by disclosure can one evaluate the merits of a diary written by an activist and advocate for a campaign.

Someone reading the diary and skipping the video might never know her agenda to get Obama elected.  Her brief mention in the video about the purpose of her organization comes nearer the end than the beginning.

I am troubled that the affiliation was so blatantly omitted, and therefore commented.


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You'd Have A Point If (4.00 / 11)
(1) She were talking about the campaign itself, or anything directly connected to it.  She's not.

(2) She hadn't identified her involvement with Project Hope in her video introduction.

This sort of paint-by-numbers approach to disclosure rules completely misses the point of why they matter, and what function they're supposed to serve.

Unless, of course, her entire post read backwards is a deep hypnosis message to brainwash us all into becoming Obama fanatics.  Then all bets are off.


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Let's not play by Beltway rules (4.00 / 6)
Right on, Paul!

One of the whines of the Broders and other beltway illuminati is that when they look down upon the blogosphere, they don't have big names and titles to let them know whether they are dealing with a distinguished journalist or some crazy guy in his pajamas.  Whatever can they do?  Actually read this stuff?

In other words, I think it better to judge posts by what they say, not who (or the subtle agents of which campaign) says them.  Some may fear that we will be subjected to the sneaky propaganda from a particular candidate.  On the other hand, let's not get into the habit of dismissing what is being said because WE don't like the speaker's candidate.

I do notice that those arguing "full disclosure" aren't using their real names.

Jeff Roby


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Full Disclosure (4.00 / 4)
"Paul Rosenberg" is not my real name.

It was given to me by my parents as deep cover when I was born.


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My name is (4.00 / 1)
Betty Hooker. I use BettyNC everywhere except on YouTube and Huffington Post where I use my full name.

(I did not watch the video because my computer is having a stubborn day today and is playing only about five seconds of video, then stopping!)

Where can I go to place a wager that this thread will eventually turn into a pro-Obama piece? Maybe I am just old and cynical!!


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Come on... (0.00 / 0)
It is an elementary proposition that an interested party disclose his/her interest in order to insulate himslef/herself from claims of bias.

Not everyone will watch that video, and some will not watch it all the way through.

I am frankly surprised that there is such objection to what is common sense, takes but a second to do, and allows the readers to know more about the purveyor of information, especially the reader who has no clue.

Disclosure is as much to benefit the diarist's overall interest as for the readers.

I have voices my concern and will leave it there.


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"Interested Party" (4.00 / 1)
Where's the interest?  Point to one thing she said that is reasonably related to the Obama campaign.

One thing.

You can't.  It's not there.

This is getting really tiresome, and very close to trollish behavior.


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You miss the point... (0.00 / 0)
And cut the crap with the trollish behavior comment.  I made my point and others responded.  You just asked me to respond as well, did you not?

Just because there is no perceived bias in this diary does not change the principle.  I could care less what she said at this point.  If you don't accept it fine.


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"No Harm, No Foul" (4.00 / 1)
It's a simple principle. Too bad you don't get it.

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Play The Video! (4.00 / 6)
She says in the video introduction that she's an organizer with Vote Hope.  But she has a long history as a community journalist, as well as at the LA Times before getting directly involved in political activism in 2003.

Nothing I can see in the diary itself is keyed to Obama's candidacy, and it's insulting to suggest that someone with her extensive background should be suspect, when she's addressed herself to such a broad and important topic her first time out.

I'm rather skeptical of Obama myself, so I'm not defending her on those grounds.  It's the quality of ideas and concerns that matter--ones that remain true regardless of who is elected President in 2008. 


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It is not insulting to ask for... (0.00 / 0)
up-front disclosure of affiliation.  Why is that insulting? 

Bias is bias.  Are you suggesting that it can be completely eliminated?  If so, why would anyone ever have to reveal affiliation?  If not, doesn't that explain why people do make disclosure?

In fact, disclosure would lend even more credibility.

That said, I hope the front page will provide opportunity for other activists as well.


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It isn't necessary insulting (4.00 / 1)
but you're probably well over that line at this point.

Unless your goal is to create a flame war to kill off a productive discussion, please stop.

And if you're goal is to create a flame war, please or no please, stop.


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Don't tell me what to do... (0.00 / 0)
I have responded to posts, and done nothing wrong.

I don't need direction from you.


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Okay... (0.00 / 0)
Though it may come off that way, I am not exercised.  Perhaps a bit too assertive.

All I was doing here was stating my opinion.  I hope I am entitled to do that.  To me, that statement was presumptuous.

Like the blog, by the way. 


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Seriously, bro (0.00 / 0)
Knock it off. It was a fine post and SHE DID DISCLOSE HER AFFILIATION. Give it a rest, buddy.

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She did disclose it very prominently in the video n/t (4.00 / 4)


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Its not just a question of arm's length (4.00 / 1)
its a question of the group's exclusively promoting Barack Obama for president and using its ability as a PAC to double dip and recieve donations as a proxy, unaffiliated or not, that support the Obama campaign but are not being counted within donors' presidential limits.

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Demographics and the Open Left (4.00 / 5)
Jennifer,

Thanks for your post.  You write:

And yet, what have we done to embrace and channel our collective energy and resources towards connecting to and building up this part of the movement? Have we put up ActBlue fundraising drives to support the immigrant community-based groups? Are we in regular contact with the multi-racial leaders of the immigrant rights fight so we can help promote their perspective, or do we even know who they are? MoveOn.org is by far the largest "Open Left" designated group with any kind of mass membership capacity that could have been put to work around the immigration issue. Yet a Google search of "MoveOn" and "immigration" turns up nothing. Why is that?

Some of this reflects the demographics of large sections of groups like MoveOn, which tend to be white, middle class with a large proportion of Boomers.  This is a group that coalesces most around anti-war activism, and to a lesser degree around environmental concerns.  They may care about other issues, but they don't have a history of it. Until recently, even health care was not radar, although SiCKO is changing that.  Civil rights and immigration issues are not where most people have been activists.  People care, and I think people have good "attitude", but it does not translate into action.

It's worth noting that to a large extent, we don't have the sort of multi-racial organizations for civil rights we had 40 years ago.  Part of this is that these organizations were dominated by white middle class activists, and this was not sustainable: African Americans now run organizations that protect and serve that community, and Latinos (and especially Mexican Americans) run their own.  There are good historical reasons for this, but to a degree it has turned the civil rights groups into ethnic organizations, rather than general movements.

A better question, I think, is why organizations like MoveOn have not been more successful in bringing people of color into the fold, and why activists from those communities have not been more vocal in integrating themselves into these groups.  Some of the issues here are class related, since people live very class stratified lives, and do not have the personal connections of friendship, intermarriage or work to bring them together.

I'm not sure what to do about this, but I do think that a solution to this needs to start in creating connections, and bringing in people from these "out" groups.  Bring the people in, and their concerns will follow.  Make them MoveOn  members, and the members of MoveOn will be active and care, because they will have always been active and cared.


Very good points! (4.00 / 1)
I have heard some comments from people who feel that MoveOn can be overwhelming with e-mails once you join. Perhaps new members could have a choice between constant updates, and occasional updates.... I think some people are natured to be a little slower in being motivated to action. But over time they do eventually increase in their participation. It also takes time to shift some people over to a more progressive outlook. So in addition to being more inclusive, I would say have patience with anyone who just wants to put a toe in the water.

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But is that more for one ethnic than another? (4.00 / 3)
While I know plenty of younger folk that can get fed up with email, my sense is that people's threshold for this decreases with age.  And MoveOn's active membership is not all that young.

Living in Santa Cruz County, as I do, I've been trying to figure how to get inter-ethnic activism to work. I have a theory, which is not based on any hard numbers:

  • Latinos in the county are more "time poor" than the more affluent whites in the northern part of the county.

  • Latinos are more likely to be active in their churches, and less likely to find a "virtual organization" an appealing use of their time.

  • Latinos are more likely to be members of a union, and the union is how they are most likely to get involved in political activity.  Middle class whites don't have this connection, and tend to turn to on-line communities out of the lack of an alternative.

  • Internet access is more of an issue for the Latino community.  They're less likely to to have broadband internet, and there's a definite shortage of public internet access in the more working class and Latino parts of the county.

That's just the top of my head.  But for a white middle class guy, I've spent a fair amount of time thinking about it, even if I don't have any real answers.


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These Are Examples of The Sorts of Things We Need To Think About (4.00 / 1)
Elsewhere I mention the idea of developing tools to build diversity, and the need to ask the right questions as a first step before developing the tools.

This is an example of the right sort of questions that have to be asked--why are firing on different cylinders in the first place?  The answers you've come up with obviously apply to more than just Santa Cruz County, obviously.


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Starting with existing orgs is probably a great start (4.00 / 1)
I also suspect that my experience in Santa Cruz County will generalize, but since it's all I know well, I figured I'd stick to it.

I suspect that the right approach is to seek out churches, unions, and community groups and do some actions that are actually done there (at the church, at the union hall, etc.).  Leadership where possible for these events needs to be from the community, and not from the "whiter" organization.

By doing this, you're bringing in the leaders of the local groups as leaders of the multi-ethnic group, rather than bringing in people of color as rather passive members of a majority culture group like MoveOn.

One of the things I find intrieging about the Obama For President campaign is that they seem to get this, and are effectively signing up groups that Edwards could easily reach with the right organizational approach.

I'm not currently active in any of the primary campaigns at this point, but I think it would be healthy if all of the major campaigns went after these under represented communities in this manner, which would promote a fair number of them into leadership positions quickly, and be much more effective in communicating with the communities they come out of.


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Internet access is an important factor. (0.00 / 0)
More support for radio talk shows with a progressive point of view would help to include and motivate more people. I do not tend to listen to radio, because I have the internet.... and Air America went off the air. Next time... I will tune in.

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In Spanish, maybe? (4.00 / 1)
I'm not sure why Air America didn't pick up more than it has. But you may have nailed the point: you don't listen to it.  Either do I.  Nothing against it, just isn't part of my day.

My suspicion is that this is hiding an ethnicity/class issue, and that what's true of white middle class liberals may *not* be true for other groups.  I remember reading that the driving force for getting people to the huge immigration rallies last year was actually Spanish-speaking DJs and other Spanish language radio.

So maybe we don't need another Air America.  Maybe some clever social entrepreneur should be putting together "Aero EEUU". My impression is also that African Americans like radio as a medium more than liberal whites, and that the same may be true for that community as well.

BTW: this is another reason to care about diversity of ownership in radio.


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Interesting points... (0.00 / 0)
DJ's who are trusted by their local audience - whatever the ethnic or socio-economic make up of that audience.... could encourage those listeners to participate in a larger movement. Trust, and a sense of belonging, can be missing in the blogosphere. Some cross-media promotion would help. Maybe we need more local progressive talk radio instead of the larger, Air America, kind of concept.

You are so right about diversity of ownership in radio. A big issue, I think.


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I'd also throw out... (4.00 / 2)
that lack of Internet access fosters the "digital divide" between the connected and those who aren't. Since so much of modern progressive activism is based in online activity, this leaves out the black, Latino, and poor white communities that are stuck with dialup or nothing at all.

America's broadband policy is atrocious and, while perhaps not deliberately designed to benefit the rich, is clearly leaning that way. Net Neutrality's core principle is about ensuring that EVERYONE can and should have access to the Web, regardless of income level or location.

While it may not be as an immediate a concern on an activist level, it IS an important issue that needs more play.


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Definition (0.00 / 0)
- A compelling narrative with symbols
- Mass membership organizations

- Indigenous local leadership

- Communication channels

Um, by that definition the Harry Potter fan club is a movement.


Funny, but also kind of true (4.00 / 2)
It's possible that anything motivating millions of people to perform certain actions together can be characterized as a movement. Some movements are trivial, and some are vital. I don't think the existence of trivial movements discounts Morris' components.

Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards.

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Although, It Helps To Have A Goal (4.00 / 4)
If you don't have an objective to move towards, you're more of a giant crowd than a movement.  You may enact rituals together, and even welcome others to join you.  But Deadheads weren't a movement and neither are Harry Potter fans, because neither has a real objective beyond sharing their subcultural enjoyments.

And I wouldnt exaclt call them "trivial."  At least not within earshot!


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Haha (4.00 / 2)
Good point, Paul, thanks! :)

Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards.

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Not unless you want a Cruciatus Curse n/t (4.00 / 2)


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Great post! (4.00 / 2)
A couple of questions:

You said "I don't think the blogosphere as a whole has quite figured out exactly where it fits in." It's not there yet, but don't you think the new internet can eventually be a major "communication channel" for the movement?  Isn't that, in the end, probably the best fit?

Also, while I have a fairly good idea of the structure and narrative of the right wing movement in this country, I was wondering what you might describe as their symbols? 

I think your concept of our moral center is spot on.  I look forwards to hearing more of your thoughts!


Thank you! (4.00 / 2)
And yes, I do think the new Internet can be a major communication channel for the movement. I think that is the best fit, but I can't tell if there is widespread agreement on that within the progressive blogosphere. I think groups like Progress Now in Colorado are a decent model for how the web can be used as a communication channel. But for it to really work I think the biggest challenges are:

- coming to some agreement around the principles of the movement, and the priorities of the movement, and

- a much, much bigger and broader audience (making blogs what people read online instead of AOL News or cnn.com)

As far as right-wing symbols, I think they have tried (and to some extent succeeded) to co-opt some of the old-school American symbols: the flag, the eagle. Others are religious: the 10 Commandments statue, for example. But it's interesting to think about. Do others have ideas they want to chime in?


Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards.


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I think of a ladder. (0.00 / 0)
A progressive movement will attract more people if it makes clear that the end goals are to help people and create opportunities.

I think of a ladder because it is a simple symbol of progress through work.


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I like the ladder a lot (0.00 / 0)
That is a great one, thanks!

Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards.

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Movements? (0.00 / 0)
Right or wrong, better or worse, but . . . ?

Movements of magnitude seem to need leaders.

Ghandi
M.L. King, Jr
Mandela
etc.

William Lloyd Garrison, Henry Highland Garnet, Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, John Brown
etc.

Susan B. Anthony, Carrie Nation, Mother Jones
etc.

Big Bill Haywood, Eugene V. Debs, Samuel Gompers, Cesar Chavez
etc.

Perhaps this is over-simplified; certainly not inclusive nor conclusive.  Even so, there seems to be a thread worth examining.


Great Movements Create Great Leaders (4.00 / 2)
It may seem that way, but you really do have it backwards.

Vibrant movements seek out, recruit, and develop their own leadership. Martin King is a good example.  How did he become a leader in the civil rights movement? Short answer: he was drafted.  He was a very young, obscure Baptist minister with a freshly minted doctorate in divinity. He was not initially all that good as an organizer, either. He learned by doing.

Gandhi also had a good 10 years learning "how to raise hell", and refining his ideas as a civil rights activist in South Africa.  He became the leader we remember.

Leadership development has been a weakness on the left for many years.  We do not create the opportunities for talented people to both be involved and make a living.  Our leaders, currently, succeed to the extent they succeed in spite of the best efforts of NGOs and political issues groups to under pay them, over work them, and pretend that this is just "paying your dues" -- which it is not -- rather than stupid and short sighted abuse -- which it is.

I've been on boards of NGOs where people just don't get this.  So when you find someone with real talent, you lose them just as soon as they have experience, or as soon as they decide that they need to be able to pay their bills, see a doctor without going bankrupt, or have a tolerable living situation.

You can make a living as a conservative activist.  But there is a limit of how much sacrifice you can ask of young people when they decide to devote their lives to any movement.


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Word (0.00 / 0)
There's a huge amount of disenchantment among us "outside" progressives who are not involved in major axis organizations like the ACLU, CAP, etc. -- we try to get involved, to contribute, to get jobs, and we're turned away. Why? Because we didn't start out doing things like ambushing people at subway stops to sign petitions? Or get coffee for senior organizers? Why should we have to work slave wages and terrible hours just to prove we're serious about our progressive credibility?

The blogosphere has built its own leadership and its own leaders, and is--to coin a phrase--"crashing the gate" and demanding respect. One thing that I hope catches fire in the long run is developing a self-sustaining infrastructure that enables people to organize, write, protest, and lead without having to be either trust fund babies, living five or six to one house, or constantly begging readers for money. None of these examples are conducive to keeping movements strong, but that's how the Old Left seems to roll.


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I do not have it backwards. (0.00 / 0)
While there are many subsets of movements in which shared or collateral leadership may exist, it seems that most leaders seem to "find" a partial or nascent or evolving group & propel them into notoriety (they're not always successful).

Wikipedia shows briefly that Ghandi founded the Natal Indian Congress in 1894, with himself as the Secretary. Through this organization, he molded the Indian community of South Africa into a homogeneous political force, publishing documents detailing Indian grievances and evidence of British discrimination in South Africa.  Without going into detailed historical documents, even the broadest view of Ghandi's efforts indicate that he moved movements; they did not move him.  Whether it was champarin, non-cooperation, or non-violence, the ideas originated with Ghandi, and he motivated the members of the group along his avenues of development (for the most part).

Dr. King was involved with the NAACP & the Rosa Parks related boycott (1953), however he chose to focus on his church rather than remain tied to that issue.  Again, detailed historical & biographical accounts are not needed to support my view.  Later, as per generic Wikipedia, King was instrumental in the founding of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) in 1957, a group created to harness the moral authority and organizing power of black churches to conduct non-violent protests in the service of civil rights reform. King continued to dominate the organization. King was an adherent of the philosophies of nonviolent civil disobedience used successfully in India by Mohandas "Mahatma" Gandhi, and he applied this philosophy to the protests organized by the SCLC. In 1959, he wrote The Measure of A Man, from which the piece What is Man?, an attempt to sketch the optimal political, social, and economic structure of society, is derived.

In my opinion, there is a sort of, kind of, semblance of a "folk myth" that the folk do wonderful stuff--create great epics by committee, compose remarkable "folk" ballads, devise tribal forms of self-governance, produce the conditions from which great movements evolve, etc.  The evidence for that line of thought is thin, indeed.

I personally don't like the general, overall notion that movements need a leader to charismatically take the reins of a white horse, etc.  The "cult of the personality" sort of offends me in a variety of ways.  Even so, any observor would be hard-pressed to find good, valid examples of movements "growing" leaders & generating the sources of their power.

One massive contradiction of my opinion seems to be the American Revolutionary movement.  It may possibly be seen as a movement of many elements, each with its own leaders; or it may have been a large movement with several leaders functioning as colleagues; or it may have been several somewhat different, though parallel, movements with cooperating leaders.

There are varying opinions about movements & leadership, although my view seems sort of generally supported, even in cliche political observations; i.e., the American people waiting around for a knight in shining armour on a white horse ready to lead them to the "promised land."  I apologize for the badly mixed metaphor with the Old Testament. 


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Biographical info for King really *would* be useful (4.00 / 1)
Dr. King was involved with the NAACP & the Rosa Parks related boycott (1953), however he chose to focus on his church rather than remain tied to that issue.  Again, detailed historical & biographical accounts are not needed to support my view.

Go deeper than Wikipedia on this one, and get yourself a good solid biography of King.  Read the sections on the bus boycott: how it started, and how it got organized.

He really didn't start out fully formed, and accounts at the time seem to indicate that among other things, people didn't think he was much of a speaker :-)  Who knew?

As for other movements: if you're interested, I can give you a number of examples, although some are Eastern European. Success at leadership development has been an essential part of their success.  Marxist and other left wing groups in Eastern Europe were frequently built around "youth movements", which is really a fairly deliberate sort of leadership factory.  The Israeli labor movement, founded by people like David Ben Gurion (in Poland, David Green) was fairly typical of the Eastern European left, and worked much the same way as other socialist or Marxist groups.

The modern conservative movement in general, and the neocons in particular, are another example.  Ironically, a number of the early neocons had previous histories in the US Left (including some former US communists and "fellow travellers"), and were products of this kind of training and upbringing themselves.  Their ideology more or less flipped, but they carried a fair bit of their organizational skills and philosophy from their form left wing backgrounds.

Where the leadership of the northern colonies of British America came from is also interesting, and I'm reading a bit on it now.  And even there, you saw a growth of local efforts where people "cut their teeth" in the 1760s.


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The Converse Is True, Too (4.00 / 1)
Movements that don't nourish leadership suffer as a result.

One of the classic texts of Second Wave Feminism, addressed this issue, "The Tyranny of Structurelessness" by Jo Freeman.

First wave feminism suffered from this as well, precisely because women had so few support structures on which to build their movement, and hence nourish and support the leadership they needed. (I noted four institutions supporting King's emergence to lead the Montgomery Bus Boycott.)  First wave feminism produced some of the most amazing activists and political leaders in American history.  But the movement's ability to nourish and support them was limited, and their ability to struggle together suffered significantly as a result.

Had there been stronger resources for them to draw on, women might well have won the right to vote nationwide shortly after the Civil War, a good 40-50 years earlier than actually happened.  It wasn't the leaders' fault. It wasn't the movements' fault. It was simply a matter of starting from a such a resource-poor position.


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You're Mistaken About King (0.00 / 0)
Dr. King was involved with the NAACP & the Rosa Parks related boycott (1953), however he chose to focus on his church rather than remain tied to that issue.  Again, detailed historical & biographical accounts are not needed to support my view.
Your last sentence is correct, thanks to the magic of Wikipedia.  Aside from the fact that Montgomery Bus Boycott began on December 1, 1955, there were four institutions in place that made the boycott possible:

(1) The NAACP, to which Rosa Parks and E.D. Nixon belonged. Nixon was the organizer who recruited King to lead the boycott.

(2) The Highlander Folk School, where Rosa Parks had gone for activist training.

(3) The Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters, of which Nixon was a member, which allowed him financial independence from the local white power structure.

(4) King's own church, which also allowed him financial independence from the local white power structure.

Without these four institutions, and without Nixon's persistence in recruiting King, he would never have become the leader he was.  He was undoubtedly a great man.  But his leadership was emergent from the movement.  The movement called him forth, and he answered the call.

p.s.  King formed the SCLC because the national Black Baptist church would not support the Civil Rights movement.  By forming an independent organization, he was able to secure support on a church-by-church basis, circumventing the national organization.


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My error. (0.00 / 0)
The parenthetical 1953 is misplaced; should follow the NAACP.

I think (1) movements without a leader are almost non-existent; (2) movements with multiple leaders are very rare; (3) movements that develop their own leader(s) may exist, although the evidence for this is not strong.

To state that the Montgomery Bus Boycott of 1956 "developed" King as a leader may or may not be helpful in analyzing his leadership of the Civil Rights movement.  Perhaps equally important are some of his classes at Morehouse or the Crozer seminary or Boston College, or even more likely an influential professor or two.

I hope that the posters here at Open Left, & the progessive left in general, are not hoping or expecting that the "left" will seek out, identify, train, promote & appoint a leader or leaders.


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It's Not Just King You're Ignorant Of (4.00 / 1)
(1) movements without a leader are almost non-existent;

Well, duh!

(2) movements with multiple leaders are very rare;

To the contrary, if you don't have multiple leaders, you don't really have a movement. At best you have an organization or a cult.

For the Civil Rights movement, just a sample:  W.E.B. DuBois, Thurgood Marshall, A. Philip Randolph, James Lawson, Charles and Medger Evers, John Lewis, Ella Baker, Andrew Young, Fannie Lou Hamer, Fred L. Shuttlesworth.

(3) movements that develop their own leader(s) may exist, although the evidence for this is not strong.

See all the above.


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3 things. (0.00 / 0)
First, don't call me or any other poster ignorant.  If you want name-calling, please go to Kos or MLW or somesuch.  Because I disagree with you does not make me ignorant.

Second, if you go to average, ordinary, everyday people with the names you listed here, then add King's name, and ask them to pick out a leader of the civil rights movement, what do you think would happen?  Your view of what may or may not constitute "leadership" is absolutely astonishing.  If the people you name are only recognizable to historians & experts in a particular subject matter, it's unlikely that those names represent "leaders."  And if you ask people to name a leader of the civil rights movment, what name do you suppose will be the first (& often only)?

Third, your comments about King learning from & being developed by, after being drafted by, the NAACP, and the boycott organizers makes my point(s).  King did not "lead" the NAACP anywhere or to anything after they supposedly provided him with whatever powers were conferred.  The boycott groups, especially the "black churches" were not taken to some new levels of prominence & success by King after they developed his skills.  The E.D. Nixon comment seems odd to me [resembles a reference to the family that asked Ghandi to represent them & their group in S. Africa, which led to his greater awareness?]  And I don't see how Rosa Parks' activist training is a contribution to King's leadership skills.

As you state, which makes my point (yet you claim to disagree), King debarked, vacated the various groups & formed the SCLC in order to activate a different type of movement that had its own style, etc., especially by differing from the churches that seem to be credited with somehow having developed or empowered him.  Hunh?

Again, if you think that the 11 names offered by you as leaders are normally viewed as major figures in the civil rights movement by the American people, then there is no ground on which you & I can even observe & analyze the nature of movements & the characteristics of their leaders.  I suppose a few folks may possibly recognize the name of Mr. Justice Marshall; the rest, enhh?


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Excellent Diary! (4.00 / 2)
Welcome, Jenifer!

I'm so glad that you're going to be a regular presence here. Although it's mighty disheartening to have to be having this same discussion over and over and over again, the reality is that we have to start where we are, and I think this is a very good start.

I hope I'm not wrong in thinking that few would disagree significantly with anything you've said--a few quibbles, I'm sure, but not on the main points, particularly when it comes to forwarding diversity, especially in the "open left." 

I agree completely that: 

If we believe, as Martin Luther King, Jr. did, that our destinies are tied up with those of all people in one "single garment of destiny," and "caught in an inescapable network of mutuality," then it should be the lives and experiences of the people who are most oppressed that guide the moral center of our movement. One of the keys to this is making sure that people who come out of these experiences are part of the leadership of the movement. As it stands now, that's not the case for our movement as a whole, in practice.

So, at the same time that we continue the conversation, I'm wondering if we couldn't start thinking about constructing a set of tools to deal with this problem, both directly, and in terms of correlates.  For example, if we're starting with a situation where our leadership and/or membership is not diverse, what do we do to ensure that we are considering the viewpoints that need to be included, and reaching out to include them?  What do we do to make it worthwhile for a more diverse group of activists to become involved?  How we make it relevant to them?  Or, better yet, how do engage them to educate us about how it fits into what they're already working on?

Does this this make sense to you?

I don't mean to say that I've got exactly the right questions here.  In fact, I think that getting the right set of questions of the sort, "How do we do X?" is probably the first step. Then we can work on what the tools and procedures might be.  And by tools, I mean anything at all that can help people get from A to B.  Lists of suggestions. Lists of questions to ask yourself. Lists of resources. Books or arcticles to read. Links to organzations.  I know that many of these tools must already exist, but it's a question of putting them together in a way that folks here and elsewhere in the open left actually use them to transform themselves into a more diverse, more inclusive, more representive movement.

Okay, done babbling now.


Tools (0.00 / 0)
This is a very good point, and I do think you're asking many of the right questions, especially these:

What do we do to make it worthwhile for a more diverse group of activists to become involved?  How we make it relevant to them?  Or, better yet, how do engage them to educate us about how it fits into what they're already working on?

Too often, white activists lament not being able to get Latino activists to come to their events, or take part in action around their issues. In their hearts they are trying to be more diverse, but they are going at it in the wrong way. I wrote about this on MyDD earlier this year. In general I think if more open left groups asked themselves the questions you raised, I think we would be in a much different place. It's not diversity for the sake of diversity, obviously. It's diversity as a fundamental principle to ensuring you are working from a moral center. And I argue, it's the only way we are going to win as progressives in the long term, given demographic shifts.

I think tools can be one solution, and probably a good next step in terms of action coming out of all of these diary discussions. That is something I could be motivated to work on. But I feel like some of it is not as simple as applying tools to the current structure.

I'm still not sure what the solutions are there, though I think being open to education and forging new relationships is important. I think venues like YearlyKos could be a good place to do this, but I just haven't felt really connected to that event. I am going this year, though, so hopefully I will get some good ideas!

Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards.


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Tools As Meta-Tools (0.00 / 0)
I agree 100% with this:
I think tools can be one solution, and probably a good next step in terms of action coming out of all of these diary discussions. That is something I could be motivated to work on. But I feel like some of it is not as simple as applying tools to the current structure.

I wasn't suggesting that tools alone would do anything for us, and preserving the current structure is the last thing I'd want to do.

Rather, I think that a sub-conversation about developing such tools can play a very helpful role in the overall process.  For one thing, it's a conversation that obviously needs to be informed by hearing from all the people it's meant to bring together.  So, right from the get-go it requires greater diversity than is usually the case, and it requires out front that things not be controlled by a white male elite.  That would just be patently self-defeating. It would also encourage consideration of various different stories of successes and failures from the perspectives of all the various parties involved--not only a huge learning experience for the sake of tool-building per se, but a bonding opportunity as well.

Thus, the process of developing these sorts of tools is itelf a tool for modeling what it's trying to create on a larger scale.

    "The cycle you're working on is a cycle called 'yourself.'"--Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.


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progressive movement vs. civil rights movement (4.00 / 1)
There is one component of the civil rights movement that we all seem to be forgeting, ie: church involvement. The civil rights movement was largely (not entirely or even majority in some instances) church based, whether Baptist, AME, Protestant, Jewish, etc. They all recognized the moral necessity of the civil rights movement. Sure, we have some churches involved in the immigration fight at the moment but where is the is the moral outrage over Iraq? I remember Viet Nam was a very important issue in churches in the 60s' and early 70s' as was social justice. Have we ceded all contacts with religious organizations to the right wing of the republican party?

Why yes, I'm a liberal. Thank you very much!

The Religious Left (0.00 / 0)
Actually, the religious left is broadly present in progressive organizing, but is not self-aggrandizing.  With even the Catholic Church originally opposed to the Iraq War, it should be obvious that question is much more complicated than how it is usually presented.

Furthermore, religious activists were at the forefront of organizing United for Peace and Justice, one of the two main anti-war coaltions.  If you look at their steering committee here you will see that they represent a broad coalition with significant minority participation.


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Peace movement isn't so typical (4.00 / 1)
I'd argue that the anti-war movement is a coalition where whites have a lot of control, and where people of color are being co opted.  I see this done also in environmental coalitions: a multi-ethnic, multi-class coalition over an issue that whites are passionate about.  Frankly, that's not so hard to do.

The diary is stressing issues that are more expressed concern of either working class people, or people of color.  And in this area, we could do a lot with congregations, and we don't. 


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I Was Responding To The Vietnam War Reference (0.00 / 0)
and the supposed alienation from relitious activism.  So I wasn't resonding to the diary's main thrust.  But I'm not so sure I'd agree that whites have a lot of control and people of color are being co-opted in UFPJ.

As for the environment, where I live, in South LA County, environmental justice is the premier context for local environmental activism.  It's all about fighting port and other industrial pollution that disproportionately affects people of color.  It's not just that there are more and more environmental leaders of color.  The white environmentalists talk about environmental racism all the time, too.

I know this is not yet the dominant paradigm at the national level, but things are shifting a whole lot faster than most folks realize.  I wrote a piece about this for Random Lengths for Earthday last year.  I think I'll repost it here as a diary.


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Good for y'all in So. Cal. (0.00 / 0)

As for the environment, where I live, in South LA County, environmental justice is the premier context for local environmental activism.  It's all about fighting port and other industrial pollution that disproportionately affects people of color.  It's not just that there are more and more environmental leaders of color.  The white environmentalists talk about environmental racism all the time, too.

Good for you then.

My experience has been a bit different.  We had a serious "site fight" to keep WalMart out of the county. I was involved as an environmental activist, and was not very happy with how some of my fellow enviros used -- and that's not too strong a word -- the largely Latino neighborhood activists to push a very uncompromising anti-development position.

The leadership of the neighborhood group understood what was going on very well, and it damn near split the coalition.  The locals from just across the boundary line (an unincorporated part of Monterey County) needed a degree of development, particularly public infrastructure like parks, and some industrial areas for employment.  This was a deal breaker for them, and it was either foolishness or arrogance to ask them to completely cave to a "no development, not nowhere" stand.

To the extent you folks understood and internalized the needs and positions of some of the South Los Angeles people, you were doing a great job.


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Well, I'm Not Saying We're Saints! (0.00 / 0)
And it's not South Los Angeles.  It's South LA County--San Pedro, Wilmington, West Long Beach, etc.  We're actually a ways from South LA (formerly "South Central").

We have plenty of struggles in which the Longshore Union (ILWU) has sometimes dragged its heels, even sided with the port, when its members are amongst those most severly impacted by pollution. (Port truckers, not unionized, have it just about as bad.)  And some of the environmental activists have been insensitive to union concerns as well.  But generally, there has been enough sensitivity to pull things through--particularly white environmentalists who came of age in the 60s and see environmental racism through the lens of Bull Connor & Co.

A particularly hopeful prospect right now is the Coalition for Clean and Safe Ports, a broad coalition supporting a plan that will end the economic exploitation of port truckers as part of the process of cleaning up truck pollution.  It involves everyone from the national Change-To-Win coalition, the ILWU, and the local County Fed (AFL-CIO) to the Coalition for Clean Air, the Long Beach Coalition for Children With Asthma, to a slew of other local and regional groups.


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Bravo (0.00 / 0)
BTW, very nice first post. I myself don't have any problems with your disclosure in the video. Just because you may support a different candidate doesn't mean the message is invalid or that there is a lack of sincerity about providing direction for the progressive movement and widening its' base.

Why yes, I'm a liberal. Thank you very much!

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immigration (0.00 / 0)
i think a consensus on immigration comes fairly naturally to the fair-trade, progressive left.  we just have to understand it as an economic issue.  here's a brief rundown of that point of view:

We believe that immigration, labor, and economic policy in both the U.S. and Mexico are determined to a large extent by the interest of capital.  A cheap, fearful, undocumented labor force with reduced legal protection works in the interest of the bottom line.  With NAFTA and potentially CAFTA, the U.S. has behaved badly with its neighbors, worsening the environment for small, collective, or family-run enterprises, many of them agricultural, and provoking floods of migrants who are inclined to follow the departing capital to its destination-the United States.  Besides enforcing fair trade and labor policies, to the benefit of all workers, a more just and humane immigration policy would permit communities to exist organically across borders, provide better basic resources for immigrants living in the US, and seek out grounds for cooperation between employer's profit motive and immigrants' desire to improve the lives of family and communities in their home country.


Selling Economic Populism to the White Middle Class (0.00 / 0)
I agree strongly with you, but it's worth pointing out that while this works well with union people, I tend to be disappointed at the level of motivation I see on many progressive sites.  Lots of posts on the war and on impeachment.  But I found during the CAFTA debate that trade is actually a hard sell.

David Sirota tends to be the exception here, since he has a following.  But I'd be interested in hearing how to get an organization like MoveOn to reorient itself around these sorts of economic issues.


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It depends on the kind of populism (4.00 / 1)
If you pitch it to the middle class in terms of watching foreclosures rise and property values drop, jobs being outsourced to developing nations, health care and child care being insanely unaffordable unless both parents work, the need for good schools requiring a move to the exurbs (with all that entails), you'll have a receptive audience indeed.

There's a tremendous amount of white-collar anxiety about jobs, housing, and families that has come as a result of the demolishing of the middle-class safety net, and that is already being tapped by the Dems. In a good example of serendipity, I blogged about this earlier today:
http://scholarsandro...

One reason why Edwards continues to gain traction is because he's speaking right to these people and they're listening. As it seems disclaimers are necessary, I shall state here that I am an Edwards guy. ;)


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One of the things I like about JE as well (0.00 / 0)
Yeah, Populism is a double-edged sword, and not all of its history is worth saving.  You can argue that the KKK grew out of Midwestern Populism in the 1920s, just as Pat Buchanan and Tom Tancredo are also speaking to the same dark underside of American Populism.

But a class-based populism works well too, and can (and has) been used to transcend racial, religious and ethnic differences.

I like what Edwards is saying very much, and like you, I'm an Edwards guy.  But I also like what the Obama people are doing here.

There's the old saw, "good artists borrow, and great artists steal" :-) I'd like to see most or all of the Democratic field rip Barack off on this one, just as I'd like Barack to sound more like Edwards.  But then, in the end I'll be happy supporting either of them for the general election.


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Jen's on the FP?! (4.00 / 1)
Fuck it. I'm excited.

More productively (0.00 / 0)
One thing that I've been paying attention to more and more is the degree to which presidential candidates are building infrastructure and movements that can easily fold into the greater spectrum of party activism after the election season. I don't watch this to pick a candidate, but to figure out what works and what doesn't. I have no shame in cherry-picking from a dozen different campaigns if it all ends up working in the end.  For me, that's the stuff of OpenLeft and the stuff of building a lasting progressive nation.  I'm looking forward to having movement-specific conversations.

There's the question of power ... (0.00 / 0)
"Bush is destroying the middle class!"  "The middle class can't make ends meet anymore!"  "Even the middle class ..."

I hear this all over the place on the liberal blogs.  It's true.  It's sad.  It threatens me personally.  But there is an assumption here that is rather disturbing:  that the poor are to be written off.  Yet if we are to be serious about building a long-term MULTI-RACIAL movement, that has to be addressed.

I was moved by Edwards bringing up the issue of poverty.  (Disclosure:  I am not an agent of the Edwards campaign.)  I like a lot of what Obama says.  (Disclosure:  I am not an agent of the Obama campaign.)  But can we move this beyond talk?

I'm not saying this casually.  There are serious questions about what the system could give even if we elected a 100% progressive Congress.  Doing something about poverty involves gazillions of dollars, and the people with it -- the rulers of the world, as their friends call them -- won't give it up lightly.

It's beyond the scope of this comment to try to give hard answers to this.  But the issues raised by Jenifer's excellent post at least require these hard questions.


A Teachable Moment? (4.00 / 2)
Rather than simply complaining (not that you are, but some do) I think that there's an opportunity here to be siezed.

I would put like this:  The middle class is being crushed now, because the poor were neglected before.  The only way to save the middle class is to think about all Americans--as well as our place in the world--and act to take care of everyone.


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You've hit the nail on the head ... (0.00 / 0)
... but it's a tough discussion.  There are always short-term reasons for doing otherwise.  If the poor don't vote, should we endanger our electability, given that racism will lead some middle-class voters to vote against us (see George Wallace, whose appeal wasn't just working class)?

And how to approach it, given that the issue CAN be divisive?


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Prioritizing Battles (4.00 / 1)
One way to approach it is by prioritizing battles.  This is another reason why single-payer healthcare is such a key priority.  It puts virtually everyone in the country on the same side vs. a small segment of the insurance and health-care industries.  It's good the middle class as well as the poor, for car companies straining to compete against foreign manufacturers who don't have to pay for it directly, and for small businesses that would be worse off under some of the "more sensible" and "more moderate" plans.

I don't mean to trivialize the larger challenge, of course.  But one big example that brought everyone together would be a powerful model for thinking inclusively about other challenges we face.


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Agreed (4.00 / 1)
I'd also throw out there that battling predatory lending (both in terms of dangerous mortgages and credit card traps) is something for both the poor and the middle-class. You can be working the night shift at Burger King or an IT guy making six figures, but both people can instantly relate to tales of "sticker shock" from adjustable-rate mortgages and "teaser rates" on credit cards that jump from 9 to 33 percent.

Class divisions are specifically designed to keep people from seeing that they share common problems. But EVERYONE has a bad lending horror story to share, and as more American families find themselves maxing out the plastic just to survive, that's ground that progressives can seize and build a common framework for people of all economic walks of life.


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Good Point! (0.00 / 0)
It's also something that hits minorities particularly hard, as highlighted by a recent report.

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Absolutely (0.00 / 0)
I think it was the Center for Responsive Politics that put out a study indicating that poor families (usually black and Latino) were shifted into subprime, higher-risk loans even when they could qualify for "prime" loans at fixed rates.

This was done partially to prop up all these subprime mortgage lenders and make them viable on the market (most of which are now gone or on life support), and partially due to simple, unconscious racism--"Oh, black first-time buyers? They MUST be subprime!"


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There's a pragmatic, shorter-term view (0.00 / 0)
A bit crass, perhaps, and it it this: We're trying to build a progressive movement here, but the rules of small-d democratic politics apply to us as much as they do to The Evil Right. To whit, you need a working majority coalition to enact your agenda. So although it is true to say "[t]he middle class is being crushed now, because the poor were neglected before", the point is to use whatever memes we can to gather the middle class to our side. Personally, though I agree with the sentiment I think "[t]he middle class is being crushed now, because the poor were neglected before" is weak politically at this time. The more resonant point is that everybody is getting screwed.

bobo


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If You Want To Build A Majority, I Think You Need To Say Both (0.00 / 0)
"Everybody is getting screwed" is the easiest place to start, no question about it.

But if you want to bring in disaffected voters--and this costs much less than wooing swing voters on a vote-by-vote basis--then the second message--"The middle class is being crushed now, because the poor were neglected before"--needs to be delivered as well.


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Poor "written off"?? (0.00 / 0)
I'd say the opposite.  Right now, a flood of formerly securely middle class folks are having to confront the serious possibility that they may spend the rest of their lives in poverty.

I myself an one of those "six figure" computer geeks who now faces the possibility of spending my retirement fighting over the warmest heating grate over which to place my cardboard box.  And there are a helluva lotta us (left, right, and center) who are not going to listen gently to those eager to make our situation worse by supporting the Bush/Rove/Neo-Conservative cheap labor economic agenda when espoused by those claiming to be liberals.

A helluva lotta us, after years of unemployment in our professions, have done our homework and discovered that illegal immigration, geustworkers, and offshoring are three prongs of the cheap labor fork that is skewering all of us who have to work for a living, middle class, working class, or poverty class.

There are a bunch of us who are going, out of mutual desperation, to be forming a multi-racial, multi-class, even multi-political-orientation movement.  But it may not be the movement you are hoping for if you support Bush's immigration policies.


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Good news (0.00 / 0)
Good to see you as a front pager, Jennifer.  I still wish you would leave Vote Hope and work directly for the campaign, but perhaps you can make that a subject for a discussion here someday.  With so many progressive politicians trying to move the government away from the corruptive influence of Special Interest groups, what challenges does that present for activists of good intentions?  Is there still a role for PACs, 527s, and lobbyists when their very existence is a direct contradiction to the expressed goals of the politicians they support?

Doug Dilg


awesome! (0.00 / 0)
congrats Jen, it's so great to see so many of us GP alumni doing so well and taking advantage of the soapbox.

Can't wait to read/hear more.

-C.


It's about values... (0.00 / 0)
The immigration battle is just one good example of what happens as a result of the most active parts of the movement being disconnected...

Not about disconnection.  It's about a conflict of values within the Progressive movement that truly hasn't yet defined itself.

The immigration debate is an excellent symbol of of the internal conflict that is only beginning within the Progressive movement and is only a little more advanced on the other side.

On our side the conflict is between the "racists and zenophobes" versus the "limousine liberal" Bush/Rove "cheap labor" suckups.  And we are going to have to decide which evil we are going to work with and which we will work against.  And the issue is too important to ignore.  Which side are you on?


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