Independents are the anchor of the progressive movement -- dynamics, not data (part 1)

by: jeffroby

Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 17:24


If it walks like a duck ... Three main points characterize me as a progressive independent:

(1)  I am a progressive.
(2)  While I may at any given moment quack like a Democrat, my vote for any Democratic candidate is never to be taken for granted.
(3)  My belief that we are oppressed by a corrupt two-party system (emphasize on the word system) is central.

I have all sorts of other opinions that may or may not agree with anyone else, but I do not consider them defining.

I think most (not all, of course) OpenLeft readers/writers would whole-heartedly agree with point 1, would think they agree with point 3, but don't get the central part, and would likely disagree with point 2.  But even those who disagree with point 2 might feel at least a little bit queasy with what Gary Norton writes in Kos, in a statement touted as the Kos party line:

To me the choice is clear. I will vote for every Democratic candidate for every office. I will try to influence my Democratic office holders if I disagree with their positions but will never oppose them in a way that would jeopardize them when they run against a Republican ... I will never vote for an independent candidate because that is, in essence, a vote for a Republican.

Note that my 3 points do not include support for a 3rd party in America.  On that point, I am ambivalent for all the obvious reasons (winner-take-all non-parliamentary system, etc.) and will discuss later.  Yet I am skeptical about the possibility of progressives taking over the Democratic Party, but don't rule it out.  Let's get into that.

jeffroby :: Independents are the anchor of the progressive movement -- dynamics, not data (part 1)
First, what does "taking over" mean.  Tom Hayden built an organization in California, the Campaign for Economic Democracy (which I worked with for a while), that espoused a somewhat radical vision (Economic Democracy meaning watered-down socialism).  It got him elected to Congress, and he certainly voted as a progressive.  But his initially grassroots organization was gleefully absorbed into the state's Democratic Party power structure, and played an active role in quashing anything left-of-center.

Take New York's Ed Koch -- please!  He and his fellow Reform Democrats were progressive insurgents against the Dick-Daley-style Democratic Party machine, and they beat them soundly.  They took over the party and the City.  And they became the machine.  They administered the vicious service cutbacks of the late 70's and 80's.

That kind of "taking over," I want no part of.  My understanding of "progressives taking over" entails seizing positions within the Democratic Party sufficient in numbers and leverage to be able to meet the needs of the American people in a progressive manner.

Here I run into a serious disconnect in OpenLeft.  Yes, the right wing is a menace, yes, war with Iran could be catastrophic, yes, global warming could be catastrophic, yes, the economy could tank, yes, peak oil is a huge issue, yes, America is a dying empire and we are trapped in the ruins, yes yes yes.  But so what.  What's our endgame?  I don't need a perfect roadmap.  I don't care about programmatic details.  But I do not see any serious attempt at discussing how we get from here to there.  That would require at least a semi-coherent vision.  FDR's New Deal was no revolution, no socialism, no participatory democracy, but even it had a vision, and it inspired.  What's ours?

Without that vision, without some attempt of getting from here to there, why should anyone trust OpenLeft's candidates to not be "the new boss same as the old boss"?

I'm not saying our issues are trivial.  But they are defensive, and at the moment defense is required.  But the lack of something beyond defense in fact hinders our defense.  Chew on that one awhile.

Perhaps I'm being overly harsh.  I think OpenLeft will develop that vision.  Call me naive, whatever.  Certainly, as a force, we are very young.  But suppose we get it together.  Our principles are strong and our hearts are true.  Can we take over the Democratic Party in a meaningful way?

Whatever the prospects, I am not impressed by any argument that is straight-line incremental.  We gained 2 seats this year and we'll gain 2 seats next year and in x number of years we will rule the world.  As our strength grows, our opposition will grow increasingly hysterical and vicious.  Small reforms already get disproportionate responses.  There are not only billions of lives at stake, there's money involved.  Not only are our Democratic Party opponents functioning at a lower cognitive level, they are paid gazillions to do what they do.  It will be, at best, a vicious power struggle, with real interests at stake, where there may not be solutions that make all parties (like the HMO's, the credit card companies, the poor, Blacks, Latinos, on and on) happy.  While we recruit allies at the party's front door, old allies keep leaving in disgust out the back.  Let me pose (admittedly arbitrarily) 3 ways this intra-party fight may play out:

(1)  Things continue as they have, with the country going to hell at an increasing pace, and the dead being the lucky ones.
(2)  Our strength grows, the struggle heightens, and we win and implement major policy changes.
(3)  Our strength grows, the struggle heightens, but our opposition is too strong to be conquered on Democratic Party terrain alone, and we either chuck it all (see option 1), or form a major 3rd party.

On a bad day, I think scenario 1 is the most likely, and on better days, I'm not sure whether 2 or 3 is more likely.  But I'm quite certain of one thing, if we are not open to the possibility of scenario 3, then there is no way that scenario 2 is at all possible.

What we have to grasp is that, while the mood of the country may move to the left, it does not automatically follow that the Democratic Party will move to the left, despite our best efforts.  And at some point, something's gotta give.

(to be continued)


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You've done an excellent (0.00 / 0)
job of describing me and I'm a progressive independent.

You say that Democrats get #1 and probably #3 but have problems with #2.  I maintain that because of #3, number becomes possible.

We are usually given a choice between a democrat or a republican.  Now, speaking for myself, I believe they are both basically corrupt.  I am most concerned who will get the job done as closely as I would like to see it get done.  If it's the republican, I'm going to vote for them.  I haven't done so in a long while but it could happen.  Being a progressive generally puts make you a left or Democratic leaning independent.

I think we are growing in number and will continue to influence changes in our politics.  This is a good thing.


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In part 1, I'm trying to lay out the situation from where I sit as an activist.  Next, I plan to examine the situation more from an independent non-activist point of view.

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Fix the math, then fix the system, meanwhile power is all (0.00 / 0)
Without Power to accomplish, you cannot accomplish. You can get power on one issues by combining with folks who oppose you on another, but on any problem you wish to name, if the other side musters more power than you, you lose.

Those on the side of truth and reality have an automatic power because people who don't otherwise care, will usually support truth and reality if they can see it, but if massive power was not arrayed against it, it would already be in place.

The good news is that most liberal/progressive people support truth and reality, the bad news is that most money does not. By getting people in the doors in the Democratic party, it can be taken, if not without a fight, and perhaps not everywhere.

Iraq is a hot button issue, but THE issue is Democracy, and freedom. With those Iraq would not even be an issue. I would rather see a multi-tiered direct assignment of representation, that each person have a direct line of connection to someone who shared your positions, thus everyone would have representation.

However I would support IRV or any other system that would allow multiple party systems. But this needs to be done from withing the Democratic party as that is the only place that Power to make that change can be done.

Meanwhile in the old Ultraviolent to Infa-red duplicity (before the ultraviolent became the Reds)I have always been a sound wave with no place for myself on their spectrum.


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