Senate 2008 Picture One Year Out

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Nov 14, 2007 at 16:44:08 PM EST


Given the post earlier today about what we should expect if Democrats pick up not only the Presidency, but also around six seats in the Senate, I think it is useful to look at the Senate electoral forecast right now. Here is the breakdown, as I currently see it (many recent polls on these campaigns can be found here):

Lean / Likely partisan switches (four Democratic pickups, in alphabetical order)
  • Colorado (Republican held open seat): I know that one poll with a ridiculous amount of undecideds has shown this campaign to be somewhat close, but I still don't see a way for Republicans to win an open seat in a state where progressives have been seriously on the advance for the past four years. I mean, how could Republicans possibly win in a year like 2008 with their second choice 2004 candidate? Seems extremely unlikely to me that Udall loses this.
  • New Hampshire (Republican Jon Sununu, incumbent): Conservative Sununu is wildly out of step with the direction New Hampshire is taking, and well behind in all polling. Shaheen did lose this campaign once before, so like Colorado it probably isn't a guarantee. However, with a comfortably double-digit polling advantage, she clearly has a big edge.
  • New Mexico (Republican held open seat): Udall crushes all opponents in every poll, typically by 15-18 points. Good night.
  • Virginia (Republican held open seat): This campaign was over the day Mark Warner declared. He leads by more than 20 points in most polls. Both New Mexico and Virginia are better pickup opportunities than even Pennsylvania was last year.

Already Competitive Seats (0-2 Democratic pickups, in alphabetical order)

  • Kentucky (Mitch McConnell, incumbent): McConnell is below 50%, and only ahead by single digits, in every poll. This is fantastic news, since Republicans will pour huge amounts of resources into defending this seat, making every other seat in this category more difficult for them. Perhaps best of all, no matter how many resources they pour in here, it will be more than matched by a wave of progressive advocacy organization money. Every advocacy group in the country is determined to defeat McConnell, and the barrage that has dropped his numbers below 50% is only getting started. Finally, rumors of an even stronger Democratic candidate than AG Greg Stumbo persist, which could spell the end for McConnell and revenge for Dsachle in 2004.
  • Louisiana (Democrat Mary Landrieu, incumbent): Landrieu only has fairly Republican opposition so far, but Katrina destroyed large parts of her voting base and she should be considered vulnerable even now. There is still plenty of time for a bigger name Republican to jump in the campaign against her, so this seat could move up a tier depending on further recruitment.
  • Minnesota (Republican Norm Coleman, incumbent): Coleman is under 50% in every poll against both Al Franken and Mike Ciresi. Every poll also shows either a tie or Coleman ahead by single-digits. That spells a vulnerable incumbent in any campaign, much less in a blue state that is certain to be highly targeted by the much better financed DSCC. Persaonlly, I still expect Al Franken to be the next Senator from Minnesota.
  • Oregon (Republican Gordon Smith, incumbent): If he had run, progressive Peter DeFazio would have remarkably made Oregon the fifth near-certain Democratic pickup this cycle. While that remains easily the biggest disappointment on the Senate front his cycle, just like McConnell and Coleman, Smith is under 50% and only ahead b single digits in every poll against every Democrat in the campaign. As such, he is clearly vulnerable even without DeFazio in the campaign.

Potentially Competitive Seats (0-1 Democratic pickups, in alphabetical order)

  • Maine (Republican Susan Collins, incumbent): Popular Democratic congressman Tom Allen is challenging Collins, and this campaign was widely expected to be very competitive. However, in poll after poll, Collins is over 50% and ahead by double-digits. It surprises me that this race looks like such a longshot right now, but I can't spin those bad poll numbers away. This is the second biggest disappointment this cycle.
  • North Carolina (Republican Elizabeth Dole, incumbent): Democratic State Senator Kay Hagan looks like she can make a race of it against Libby Dole, who isn't very popular among Republican activists after her disastrous stint as NRSC chair in 2006. Polls show the campaign is doable for Hagen, if difficult. As she ages, Dole also won't be the tough campaigner she once was.
  • South Dakota (Democrat Tim Johnson, incumbent): Johnson, who has narrowly won two elections in this red state, can't really campaign for medical reasons. However, so far, he has avoided any top-tier challengers, and a poll even showed him up 14 points against popular Republican Governor Mike Rounds. Johnson should be safe, but until the primary takes place, he isn't out of the woods.
  • Texas (Republican John Cornyn, incumbent): Rick Noriega is popular among grassroots Democrats, while Republican Jon Cornyn is neither very popular nor very bright. Polls show Cornyn just above 50% against Noreiga, and Texas is a very large state that will require a lot of money to unseat an incumbent. This campaign strikes me as very similar to North Carolina: possible, but difficult.

Other Republican held seats to watch: Alaska (Democratic candidate pending), Idaho (Democrat LaRocco holds his Republican opponent close to 50%), Nebraska (Democratic candidate pending)

Other Democratic held seats to watch: New Jersey (Lautenberg unpopular, but the Garden state is a famous Republican sinkhole. I hope Republicans run at him hard, and dump another several million into a losing effort in New Jersey, ala 2004, 2005 and 2006)

So, even with mild disappointments so far in Maine, Mississippi Nebraska and Oregon, this is obviously an excellent, rosy picture for Democrats. It is dramatically better than the Senate picture two years ago, and we won six seats in that cycle. I am feeling about 5-6 right now, but that could go up as the campaign moves forward. A nine-seat pickup, allowing Democrats to reach 60 votes, is even an outside possibility if all the pieces fall into place. If we get Kleeb in Nebraska, a top candidate in Alaska, and if the Allen, Hagan, LaRocco, and Noreiga campaigns all pick up steam, then maybe, just maybe, nine is within reach. If that happens, then Democrats will have four near-certain pickups, and eight decent chances. For the under-financed NRSC in a Democratic year, that might be too much of a wave to hold off.

Chris Bowers :: Senate 2008 Picture One Year Out
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It's a nice picture (0.00 / 0)
Always good to start out in a position of strength.

Also, it's Liddy Dole, not Libby.


New Hampshire (0.00 / 0)
There's a primary in New Hampshire and I wouldn't declare Governor Shaheen the nominee just yet.  There's another good candidate running, former astronaut and former Air Force Reserve officer, Jay Buckey.  In addition to being a former astronaut, he is an M.D., electrical engineer, and a professor of medicine and engineering at Dartmouth. 

By way of further background here's what Joe Trippi  and Matt Stoller had to say about the race. 

I think an interesting DC vs. grassroots, insider v. outsider race could develop much like it did in the Tester/Morrison and Shea-Porter/Craig races, and I think this could be a much more interesting race than the DSCC expects today.

NH has a long tradition of voting for candidates with an independent background.  Imagine how formidable an astronaut/Air Force officer/medical school professor who opposed and opposes the war could be against Senator Sununu.  Since both D candidates in NH are strong against the incumbent (with virtually no name recognition, Jay is closer to Sununu in the polls than Congressman Tom Allen (a great guy) is to Susan Collins), this is a race that allows us to think not only about who can win, but also about what kind of Democratic Senator we want.  I think we need more Senators like Sheldon Whitehouse and Russ Feingold.  And I think that having a scientist in the Senate will be important in addressing the technological and environmental challenges we will be facing in the next 6 years.

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Jeanne Shaheen is the best candidate! (0.00 / 0)
NH has a scientist in the US senate already - his name is John Sununu.

The polls show Jeanne Shaheen crushing Sununu, and Sununu beating Buckey. As far as fundraising, Jeanne Shaheen has only been in the race a few weeks, and she has greatly outraised Buckey.  As for grassroots, nearly 1500 NH voters signed a draft Shaheen petition encouraging her to get in the race, including some of Carol Shea Porter's grass roots organizers.  The grass roots candidate in this race is Jeanne Shaheen.  She has been crisscrossing the state, talking to voters at brown bag lunches, and meeting with activists. Jeanne Shaheen also has a record of progressive accomplishment, on civil rights, woemns rights, the environment, on and on (I've said all this here before, so I won't repeat myself, but Gov. Shaheen does have a web site up http://www.jeannesha... if you want more info).  She is extremely popular, and she is the best possible candidate to take on John Sununu!!


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It should be a lively debate (0.00 / 0)
I'm looking forward to seeing how this shapes up.  Primaries are a great way to strengthen the party by having a debate about where we as a party should head. 

If as you say the Governor is the best candidate to take on Senator Sununu, then this will toughen her up for the general election (like the 1992 primary season did for President Clinton).  If like Jim Craig she can't translate her establishment support into votes in the booth, then it's best we find that out in the primary and not in another general election loss. 

I think New Hampshire got a terrific Congresswoman out of last year's primary process and I think they're going to get a great Democratic Senator out of the '08 primary process.

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Shaheen is the grass roots candidate! (0.00 / 0)
Jeanne Shaheen has incredible grass roots support. She cut her teeth taking on the "establishment" by working for Jimmy Carter and Gary Hart. She also is responsible in great part for the party building that resulted in the 2004 and 2006 victories. There is a big difference between the CSP/Craig race and Shaheen/Buckey. Craig ran a terrible race and no one knew him outside Manchester, while CSP worked tirelessly.  Governor Shaheen has been elected three times state wide, has incredible name recognition, is very popular, is working tirelessly, and will raise the millions of dollars necessary to beat Sununu. This is a happy coincidence of the grass roots and the "establishment" candidate coming together.
But you are right that NH will end up with a great senator, because Jeanne Shaheen will be the best NH senator ever!!

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Has the DC establishment taken sides in this primary? (0.00 / 0)
IIRC, the DCCC took Craig's side in his primary against now-Congresswoman Shea-Porter.  Has the DSCC officially endorsed Jeanne? 

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nope (0.00 / 0)
Jeanne Shaheen is a NH candidate suppored by the NH grassroots!!

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That's good to hear (0.00 / 0)
Some of my fellow donor friends out here in Silicon Valley are active with the DSCC's SOS Majority fundraising program.  They were under the impression that the DSCC had endorsed Jeanne and as SOS Majority members they should be helping her.  So I'm glad to hear that they were mistaken and the DSCC is neutral in the primary.

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But (0.00 / 0)
But, if they want to contribute to Jeanne Shaheen because she is the best candidate, that would be great! 

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She's also DLC ... (0.00 / 0)
who supported Bush's war

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AS did (0.00 / 0)
Edwards, et al; you should go to her web site to see her speak about Iraq.  She is also strongly pro-choice, pro-environment (signing model legislation reducing pollutants), pushed for and signed into law legislation ending discrimination against gays and lesbians, etc. etc.
She was a terrific governor who will be a great US Senator! A very progressive record with real results.

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If she wins ... (0.00 / 0)
I hope so .. Edwards has pretty much renounced the DLC .. has Shaheen?

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Seriously? (0.00 / 0)
Sununu has poisoned the entire scientist profession? Between that and the electability argument, you spent a lot of words accomplishing nothing.

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Well put. (0.00 / 0)
with virtually no name recognition, Jay is closer to Sununu in the polls than Congressman Tom Allen (a great guy) is to Susan Collins

That's a great way of looking at that poll, though as we all know polls this far out don't mean too much for the final result.

There's definitely a race going on on the ground here in NH, and the one thing that I keep hearing from people we meet is that we "just need to get Jay out to meet people," which certainly is born out in the reaction he gets wherever he speaks.  Unfortunately there aren't enough hours in the day for Jay to speak to every voter, but we'll give it a shot!


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Alternately, (0.00 / 0)
and I'm not out to tear you down, but here's another way to think of the same problem. 

Part of why Casey was recruited in PA was that his poll numbers showed him absolutely annihilating Santorum, by such a big margin that not much money had to be spent to give him the victory.  PA could have been an extremely  expensive race, but by recruiting Casey Dems put it in the bag early, dried up Santorum's fundraising, and got to send DSCC resources to Montana and later, Ohio and even later, Virginia, where they were badly needed and in two of which we barely won at all.  If we'd recruited a more progressive candidate with lower name ID in PA, we would not have Senator Webb today, because the money for him would not have been there.

If Shaheen can win this race "for free," that's money that gets to go elsewhere in the country.  If she can raise more on her own than Buckey can on his own, that matters somewhat too.  If we can choose Shaheen and win with much lower expenditures, then that might buy us a Senator Hagan or a Senator Luallen or a Senator Allen or a Senator Merkley that we would not get otherwise.

So, is Buckey so good that we're willing to risk getting a Buckey+Collins outcome, rather than a Shaheen+Allen outcome?  Because getting Buckey across the finish line against Sununu would probably require a lot more money from the DSCC than getting Shaheen across the finish line against him would.

Just something to think about.

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The biggest way to undermine this argument is to point out that NH is much cheaper than PA, although there is still the Boston media market to contend with.  Still, even accounting for this, a lot of the above analysis still stands I think.

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Of course, the even better way to undermine this argument is to point out that if Shaheen is blowing out Sununu, Republican money is also going to flow away from NH and into Maine, NC, KY, Oregon, etc, right alongside the Democratic money flowing away from NH and into those same states.  I'm not sure if that guts my whole point or not.  I don't think it does because Democratic challengers need a certain basic amount of scratch a lot more than Republican incumbents do, and incumbents tend to face a situation where no amount of additional money can help them much, whereas challengers almost always are actively suffering from lack of resources.  And it is certainly the case that in the real world, we would not have a Senator Webb if the DSCC was having to spend money in PA at the end of the cycle... there would just not have been enough cash to send to VA.  So I think I'm still right, although it is obviously a little complicated.


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Either one will beat Senator Sununu (0.00 / 0)
Either one will likely beat Senator Sununu (though Governor Shaheen lost last time and to me seems the weaker candidate). 

The question for me is which of them will be the better Senator.  I think Jay Buckey will be a true progressive Senator we can count on like Sheldon Whitehouse or Russ Feingold (and, I hope, Senator Tom Allen) and I am reluctant to back someone in a primary like Governor Shaheen who thought the Iraq War and the Bush tax cuts were good ideas.  Those were really really bad ideas. 

I don't know whether Governor Shaheen thought attacking Iraq was a good idea (which makes me question her judgment) or if she was against the war but felt she had to support it to win a Senate seat (which is morally reprehensible).  I do believe that when a Democrat takes positions which are against core Democratic beliefs we should at least have a debate.

There will be enough money available for Governor Shaheen or Dr. Buckey to beat Senator Sununu.  If the DSCC wants to raise money for this race, they should get a pot together for the general and have it ready for whomever wins the primary.  The national party should not be raising money for one Democrat to defeat another Democrat.  And I would think that Senator Schumer, the chair of the DSCC, would agree.  Remember that Senator Schumer won his seat against an incumbent after coming through a pretty tough primary season where he was a Congressman running against Geraldine Ferraro, the former Vice Presidential nominee of our party, and against Mark Green, the 1986 Democratic Senate nominee.  I was in NYC at that time and that primary race seemed to make Congressman Schumer a better candidate for Senate, and that primary was even later in the cycle than the NH Senate primary is. 

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Maine is disappointing (0.00 / 0)
I still hold out hope that Allen will pick up strength once the Democratic presidential nominee is decided, and the GOP picks their wingnut of choice. Next year, there will be plenty of opportunities to hang anchors around Collins.

It certainly is nice to know that there are 4 seats that are extremely likely to flip. Hard to believe it, but 2008 in the Senate could be even better than 2006.


Alaska and Nebraska (0.00 / 0)
Are at least Potentially Competitive Seats if our candidates get in. I would even make Alaska a Lean / Likely partisan switches if Stevens is the one for the Republicans and Mark Begich jumps in and runs hard for the Democrats. People are sick of Stevens and Begich is a great canidate.

Don't count (0.00 / 0)
out Andrew Rice.

And let's see what we've got with McWherter.


You may have heard this, (0.00 / 0)
but I don't think McWherter is running to win.  I heard (just on some blog somewhere, nothing special) that McWherter is running to drive up Dem turnout in Tennessee and save the legislature for the Dems.  They're figuring that with Clinton on top of the ticket, a lot of Tennessee Blue Dogs are not gonna be wildly motivated to go vote, and if they stay home the Rs win the legislature, but since apparently everyone LOVED McWherter so much, putting his kid on the ballot is enough to bring everyone out to vote, even knowing he's not likely to win.

No idea if it's true or not, but it sounds like a reasonable strategy and it would explain why no major DC analysts ever put this race on their charts.

That and the McWherter kid may wanna run for something else someday soon, so the visibility won't hurt him.  Kindof a Mark Warner vs John Warner back in 96 move.


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I think I've asked this before... (0.00 / 0)
Why isn't there any interest in a Draft DeFazio campaign for Oregon? People didn't take Udall's announcement as a final answer, and it paid off.

Louisiana (0.00 / 0)
My understanding is that State Treasurer David Kennedy had announced he was running against Landrieu.  Iftrue, this will be a tough race.  In a "toss-up" year, I think Kennedy wins.  Fortunately, I think 2008 will be, if anything, worse for the Rs then 2006.  So, Landrieu should be fine.

I'd be happy with a net gain of 4 (4.00 / 1)
Let's not get ahead of ourselves--we are likely to lose LA and are not out of the woods in SD.

Chris, don't you think Hillary at the top of the ticket would erase any chance we would have in ID, NE, AK, KY, and LA?

We are unlikely to win those states in a presidential race anyway, but it seems the mountain for our candidates to climb would become steeper with Hillary at the top.

I am reminded of the famous story about Birch Bayh after he lost his re-election bid in 1980. He was asked what he would have done differently if he had known that Reagan would win Indiana by 400,000 votes. He replied, "I would have taken the year off." Meaning that there was simply no way he could have overcome that kind of deficit.

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Very good points. But Senator Clinton ... (0.00 / 0)
...hasn't won the Nomination yet.

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No. (0.00 / 0)
Chris, don't you think Hillary at the top of the ticket would erase any chance we would have in ID, NE, AK, KY, and LA?

I think that's a simplistic answer. There will be ticket splitters, and there will be people who don't support Hillary who nevertheless won't go out to vote a straight Republican ticket just because she's on the other side.

How deeply is the woman hated, anyway? I suspect it's not as deep as the GOP would suggest.


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Bill (0.00 / 0)
Bill Clinton took 6 of 13 southern states in both 1992 and 1996 and Hillary has polled OK in the south.  I am not so sure she's the anchor some people say she is for KY or LA.  Now NE may be another story but who knows.

If, as seems likely, Mitt Romney is the GOP nominee, will Romney be an anchor in the south for GOP candidates?  At least some polling says that would be the case. In any case, we will probably know at least one and maybe both of the nominees inside of 8 weeks.


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I have to admit (4.00 / 1)
the happiness over Udall entering the race in New Mexico is palpable.

You can see it everywhere among Dems, especially among our little corner of the blogosphere.

-New Mexico politics from the local perspective.


Maine voters are *not* tuned in as yet (0.00 / 0)
to the '08 federal races, people.

Rinse...lather...repeat.

So-called "polls" mean zipshit.



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Don't Write Off Other States Yet (4.00 / 1)
I am very heartened by Chris' careful analysis that shows Democrats are likely to win 5-6 Senate seats.

But it is still relatively early in the season, especially in this time when voters are very frustrated and angry. As the US heads toward a recession, 2008 could tilt even more toward progressive Democrats. Many states that now seem unlikely or even beyond the pale might become competitive. In 2006, it seemed inconceivable that Democrats would win 6 seats especially in places like Ohio, Montana, and Virginia, but we did. And this time around, Democrats are winning the fundraising battle.

I'm still hoping Democrats will pick up 10 Senate seats, including an unexpected win in a state like Kansas, Oklahoma, Georgia, Mississippi, or Wyoming. The times are ripe for this kind of blow-out and if we work really hard to overcome the mainstream conservative media narrative and voter suppression, I think it might be possible. After eight years of failed war, rampant cronyism and corruption, blatant lies, terrible inequality, and economic doldrums and now a  looming environmental disaster, are voters really going to re-elect Right-wing Republicans?


Texas (0.00 / 0)
Quite a few of the voters Landrieu lost in LA moved to TX. Has any action been taken to get those transplants in the Houston area registered to vote? That could make a huge difference in Noriega/Cornyn.

Don't set your sights quite so low (0.00 / 0)
I agree that a realistic expectation for Senate 2008 is a Democratic pick-up of 5-7 seats, but I don't set the gold standard pick-up goal at ten seats.  If we want to dream the big dream, we should go for a Lieberman-proof 61 seats. Sixty seats might lead the Repugs to offer old Joe more than his poor integrity could withstand.  Sixty seats would leave the Dem leadership still dependent on him, enough to let him keep his beloved do-nothing chairmanship.  He might switch and leave us with fifty-nine seats, shopping for a Republican, any Republican, on every vote.  Sixty-one seats would make old Joe totally irrelevant.  Nice thought, right?  Not QUITE as lovely as thinking that he might resign from the Senate to run as the Republican vice president, but very nice - and a bit closer to reality.

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