Reich Goes After Mandates and Clinton

by: Matt Stoller

Mon Dec 03, 2007 at 13:47:54 PM EST


Robert Reich goes after Clinton viciously for her attacks on Obama's health care plan.

I'm equally concerned about her attack on his health care plan. She says his would insure fewer people than hers. I've compared the two plans in detail. Both of them are big advances over what we have now. But in my view Obama's would insure more people, not fewer, than HRC's. That's because Obama's puts more money up front and contains sufficient subsidies to insure everyone who's likely to need help - including all children and young adults up to 25 years old. Hers requires that everyone insure themselves. Yet we know from experience with mandated auto insurance - and we're learning from what's happening in Massachusetts where health insurance is now being mandated - that mandates still leave out a lot of people at the lower end who can't afford to insure themselves even when they're required to do so. HRC doesn't indicate how she'd enforce her mandate, and I can't find enough money in HRC's plan to help all those who won't be able to afford to buy it. I'm also impressed by the up-front investments in information technology in O's plan, and the reinsurance mechanism for coping with the costs of catastrophic illness. HRC is far less specific on both counts. In short: They're both advances, but O's is the better of the two. HRC has no grounds for alleging that O's would leave out 15 million people.

Yesterday, HRC suggested O lacks courage. "There's a big difference between our courage and our convictions, what we believe and what we're willing to fight for," she told reporters in Iowa, saying Iowa voters will have a choice "between someone who talks the talk, and somebody who's walked the walk." Then asked whether she intended to raise questions about O's character, she said: "It's beginning to look a lot like that."

I just don't get it. If there's anyone in the race whose history shows unique courage and character, it's Barack Obama. HRC's campaign, by contrast, is singularly lacking in conviction about anything. Her pollster, Mark Penn, has advised her to take no bold positions and continuously seek the political center, which is exactly what she's been doing.

All is fair in love, war, and politics. But this series of slurs doesn't serve HRC well. It will turn off voters in Iowa, as in the rest of the country. If she's worried her polls are dropping, this is not the way to build them back up.

Regarding Social Security, Reich echoes A Tiny Revolution's point about Clinton, pointing out that a bipartisan commission on Social Security will most likely lead to a regressive tax raise or a benefits cut.  Now, I don't agree with his praise of Obama on that front, as the crisis language is neither helpful nor true.

But it's nice to see Robert Reich and Paul Krugman going at it, indirectly.  Time for the Pearl Jam and flannel....

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Reich Not Making Serious Argument (0.00 / 0)
Reich is completely in the bag for Obama, you can tell by the way ignores Edwards far superior, to both Obama and Clinton, health plan.  But in any case Reich doesn't actually make any serious arguments here.  Obama's partial mandate looks even more ridiculous considering it goes up to age 25, what is that all about?  At age 26 it suddenly becomes OK to become a free rider? But at 25 you're not capable of making that decision. 

Nor does he address that insurance reform makes it more attractive to be a free rider, since you can sign up the day after you find out you need an expensive operation.  Unless it's going to cost 1 dollar a month, that will create a serious moral hazard problem. 


age 25 (0.00 / 0)
It is widely true that dependent children can be covered up to age 25 by their parents.  I'm surprised you think Obama invented this.


New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

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That wasn't the case with my insurance (4.00 / 1)
and I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield.

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perhaps (0.00 / 0)
It would have been better for me to say that some plans go up to age 25 and some cut off sooner.  We're talking about dependent college students, not all people, in both the current system and Obama's plan.  Presumably it is good for Obama to pick the highest age around.  I do not see anything in the plan to suggest this is anything other than allowing parents to cover college students.  I see nothing on the website or PDF to suggest that parents are mandated or even are allowed to cover a working "child" who is age 23.


New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

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Under 25 (0.00 / 0)
I haven't seen Obama's plan in full, but how does it differ from Howard Dean's plan in 2004.

From ontheissues.org


Guaranteeing coverage to all Americans will involve a mix of state, federal, and private programs:
1. States should be required to guarantee coverage for all children under age 23. In return, the federal government should assume responsibility for drug and acute medical care for Americans over age 65.
2. Older Americans deserve a pharmacy benefit under Medicare (an unaffordable impossibility under Bush's current fiscal policies). This would cost $450 billion over 10 years, a little more than 1/4 of the value of Bush's tax cut. With a pharmaceutical package, Medicare becomes a decent insurance program.
3. Finally, to cover those between the ages of 23 and 65, we should use the present employer-based system with refundable tax credits and federal subsidies to cover low- and moderate-income Americans who lack insurance.

In other places, Dean speaks of guaranteeing Medicaid to the under-25 crowd.  I tend to side with Dean on the ideas that single-payer is not a pragmatic course and that we should work on increasing access first and reforming the system later.  I haven't been following the health care debate too much.  Which candidate comes closest to what Howard Dean said last cycle?

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The Age 25 provision (4.00 / 2)
raises the age a person can stay on their parents policy.  This is an absolutely great provision.  It allows children to graduate College and spend some years finding themselves and their place in the working world without worrying about how to pay for health insurance or whether their employer pays.  It also brings into the fold many of those predicted to be out of it - the healthy young singles  who feel at that point of their lives health care is not a priority.

Why are you so afraid of accomplishing things through education rather than mandate.  If we can bring the costs down sufficiently we can then see what is the true number of people who choose on non-financial grounds not to opt in.  Obama is already on record as saying that at that point he would consider a mandate if necessary.  What Reich correctly points out is that Obama has his priorities straight in how the program is front loaded.  This hysteria over healthy free loaders is not what the health care debate is really about.  Let's bring costs down significantly, remove exclusionary practices, subsidize the low income and then worry about the relative few who choose to milk the system. 


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For an actual look at POLICY (0.00 / 0)
See John Cohn here.


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Reich is a waste (4.00 / 4)
The cheerleader-in-chief for NAFTA is being highlighted for his insights and instructing how Hillary should campaign?

It's good to see Andrew Sullivan and Open Left agreeing so much lately with almost mirror-image front page posts. Sad state of affairs

Can Reich explain to me how Obama has showed "unique courage and character?" Is he for real?

Missing the Iran vote is courage?

Saying he was against the war from a state legislature is courage?

Campaigning with Donnie McClurkin is courage?

Railing against lobbyists while having a shady PAC is courage?

Saying Hillary is unelectable when he has paltry national numbers and in most keys states Hillary beats him against the Republicans is courage?

Criticizing Hillary on driver's licenses for illegals and saying she is not giving straight answers when he spun the whole argument in the next debate and was even more evasive is courage?

Not requiring mandates on health care coverage which is essential for it to work is courage?

Using right-wing frames to address Social Security is courage?

Reich is a joke. And what's even funnier is how people really believe Obama is some magnanimous candidate because he can give a good speech.

Obama will be destroyed in the general. And the fact that the left is ignoring his vulnerabilities that the right will tear apart is pretty scary.



Whoa! (4.00 / 1)
Do not...I repeat, do not say this over at dKos.

You will be crucified.

To imply that Senator Waffle 'Hope' is anything less than the second coming brings the swarming hordes of uglies out of their holes in full out assault mode.

I recced you as....

You are right on the money and right on Obama.

All the way!

Huckabee or The Ghoul would just destroy Mr. Bi-Partisanship.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


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I posted it there (4.00 / 1)
Oh I posted it at Kos too...

They are used to me there by now and give me my space while they all ignore the facts and keep dreaming in Polyanna land.



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WOW (0.00 / 0)
He WILL BE DESTROYED??? You know??? How?  Glad you're there for us.  Please teach me more.

My god I'm scared.

Do you hear this everybody? Greg is trying to warn us!! He knows!!!!!!

I think maybe we really do gotta stop this guy!

Thanks Greg, you're doing us all a service.


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Anytime (0.00 / 0)
Anytime crabby...

:)


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My money is on Krugman (4.00 / 1)
Comparing the two side by side, he's far more persuasive than Reich.

Robert Reich still thinks NAFTA was a good idea (4.00 / 2)
Fox is always glad to have him on.

I have stopped trusting his sensibilities for some time.  He still is stuck in some early 90's ideas and values. And maybe that tells you why he likes Obama and defends Obama because Obama, in terms of policy and ideas, is still in the early 90's. 


Krugman and Reich used to agree in the 90's (4.00 / 1)
It's telling that one has moved on and changed and one hasn't.

If you have to compare their evaluations on Social Security and healthcare, Krugman, the more modern economist is the winner.


Will Farrell thinks... (0.00 / 0)
Reich is an angry elf!

Mitt (0.00 / 0)
Didn't he run for and lose the primary to oppose (as it turned out)Mitt Romney in MA?

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Narrative of Obama (4.00 / 1)
The audacity of hope.  The fierce urgency of now.  The unbridled writing of speeches.  The emptiness of rhetoric.  Talking points.  'uh, Present'.  Oprah!

AGAIN THE TRUTH COMES (0.00 / 0)
YES.  I mean, who needs a candidate with rhetorical talent, anyway?  Charisma is meaningless in this TV age.  This nation wants SUBSTANCE.  Obama isn't fooling anyone with his silly feel good style and nice suits. 

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