Our Version Of The RFK Coalition

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Aug 06, 2007 at 20:15


Of the 1968 candidates, only RFK gave all his energies and risked all his chances in dealing with [the issues of poverty, race and crime]. RFK builds a new coalition of the poor, the black and the young… Momentum lost after 1968.

The above quote is taken from a 1974 review of The Presidency on Trial: Robert Kennedy's 1968 Campaign and Afterwards by Stuart Gerry Brown (review written by Fred Greenstein and published in the American Political Science Review. Lexis-Nexis access is required to view the article). I quote it here because, even though I was born well after the fact, I believe it expresses the sentiment of many in the progressive movement forty years ago as to the type of electoral and governing coalition they were seeking to forge. Certainly, there was no unanimity among progressives of the time, as RFK's main rival in contested primaries was Eugene McCarthy, who certainly fomented a lot of excitement among the younger, liberal, anti-war activist class of the time. Also, anti-electoral radicalism was, as I understand it, quite prevalent among the left at the time, and I imagine there was also a lot of liberal / progressive affinity for Hubert Humphrey, as well.

Before I am crucified for my weak understanding of the election of 1968, let me first freely admit that I am neither a historian, nor a political scientist.  The reason I present the quote, "RFK builds a new coalition of the poor, the black and the young," is not to debate the accuracy of the statement, or debate the potential electoral power of that coalition had RFK not been assassinated.  Instead, I wish to discuss the similarities between that vision of a governing progressive majority and the one we face as progressives today. As a descriptive term, "the poor, the black, and the young" welded together the major areas of leftist activism of the time.  A coalition of "the poor," connects to the New Deal and Great Society form of governance, "the black" connections to the great civil rights struggles of the time, and "the young" connects to the huge wave of youth activism and culture that exploded in the 1960's as the Baby Boomer generation came of age. Whether or not this coalition would have been successful in 1968, and the degree to which it actually existed under RFK's campaign, are not nearly as relevant to our own time as much as the attempt to bring these constituencies, and great centers of activism, together under a single umbrella. This is because today, in the contemporary "fourth wave" manifestation of the progressive movement, we face a similar challenge in forging a coalition of the non-white, the GLBT, the unionized, and the non-Christian that, in different terms, comes close to the slogan used to describe RFK's 1968 coalition.

Like the formulation of RFK's coalition described above, a coalition of "the non-white, the GLBT, the unionized, and the non-Christian" is an umbrella term that not only identifies the four key constituencies that vote for Democrats by super-majority margins (to my knowledge, no other group outside of these four is all that close to a super-majority), but also describes four of the largest areas of progressive activism today: the immigrant rights movement, the gay rights movement, the new wave of union activism perhaps best personified by Change to Win (forgive me Judith) and, of course, the progressive netroots who overwhelmingly fit into the "non-Christian" category. Thus, these are the groups from which a progressive governing majority would not only draw the majority of its votes (already, Democrats draw about 65-70% of their votes from these four groups), but also from which their would draw the political resources and machinery to make that governing majority a reality.  As such, I think a reasonably fair measure of the role of the contemporary progressive movement in the 2008 presidential campaign to measure who the Democratic voters in those groups are currently supporting, and if the candidates receiving that support are living up to the ideals of the progressive movement. In other words, has the progressive movement made enough of a connection with its potential electoral and activist base so that said base is only supporting candidates who support the ideals of the progressive movement? To put it a third way, around which candidate is our version of the RFK coalition most clearly forming, and do we consider that candidate to be "worthy" of that coalition?

Obviously, this is a huge and complex task, but in the extended entry let me take a quick whack at the first part, determining where the potential base of movement support currently rests:

Chris Bowers :: Our Version Of The RFK Coalition

  1. Non-whites. Without question, right now Clinton and Obama have dominant support among non-white voters in the Democratic primary.  In every poll I have seen, they combine for a far larger share of the African-American vote than they do even for total support in national polls. Among other non-white ethnic groups, crosstabs have been more difficult to come by, but preliminary indications are that Clinton holds a dominating advantage.  The overall edge in this category goes to Clinton, with Obama second.

  2. Non-Christians. In this category, it seems Obama has a clear edge. According to an April poll from Pew, secular voters were the most pro-Obama, and least pro-Clinton, of all Democratic demographic groups. In the more activist oriented secular / non-Christian world, perhaps best epitomized by the progressive netroots, Edwards and Obama are regularly at the top of straw polls. The overall edge here goes to Obama, with Edwards in second.

  3. Unions. In the absence of any labor endorsements, and the absence of poll crosstabs on union membership and the 2008 campaign, perhaps the best estimate of how unions are currently leaning comes from David Sirota in his latest piece on Open Left:

    The article details how labor leaders are worried about endorsing a candidate who doesn't end up winning the nomination.  For instance, my friend Steve Rosenthal accurately tells the Times that while "there's a pretty strong sentiment across the labor movement for Edwards" nonetheless "some unions are a little leery of endorsing him without more evidence that he can win."

    At least partially due to the lack of further evidence, I am going to have to say that the edge here goes to Edwards.

  4. LGBT community. On this front, I honestly have no idea. I have heard of no major endorsements, nor have I seen any polling. Due to the lack of data here, I won't even attempt to venture a guess as to who is running best within the LGBT community.

It does not seem like any one candidate is clearly forming the "the non-white, the GLBT, the unionized, and the non-Christian" as this time. With a first and a second place among the two largest groups, Obama might be the closest.  However, really all three candidates seem to be doing well among significant portions of this potential coalition, despite Edwards currently struggling among non-white voters. In fact, Clinton might hold a slight edge on Obama among the original RFK coalition of "the poor, the black and the young" because of her large lead among lower income voters.

Figuring out which candidate best "deserves" the support of these communities is not something that can be done in a single post, especially without real potential for the sort of flame wars I would like to avoid on Open Left. However, that might be impossible to determine anyway, since the clear fracturing of these groups to different candidates makes it clear that the modern version of the RFK coalition simply has not formed yet.  Non-whites, non-Christians, and labor would not be breaking differently for Clinton, Obama and Edwards if "the non-white, the GLBT, the unionized, and the non-Christian" had formed into a coherent progressive movement. Right now, each group appears to still have separate concerns that are leading them to support different candidates. As such, the values of that coalition don't even seem clear at this time. That strikes me as something worth worrying about, although I am open to arguments that indicate otherwise.

Update: As multiple commenters pointed out, single women fit into this group as well, voting D by a 66-31 margin in 2006. I think is is probably obvious that Clinton leads among that group.

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You forgot single women (0.00 / 0)
Like the formulation of RFK's coalition described above, a coalition of "the non-white, the GLBT, the unionized, and the non-Christian" is an umbrella term that not only identifies the four key constituencies that vote for Democrats by super-majority margins (to my knowledge, no other group outside of these four is all that close to a super-majority)

Page Gardner and the folks at Women's Voices, Women Votes have done some amazing work here, and you shouldn't have problems finding any polling on this, because I believe they worked with Democracy Corps. They need to be included because they vote Democrat by I think 89%, and there are major efforts underway to build on the vote increases in 2004 and 2006.

Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards.


Yeah, that is definitely true (0.00 / 0)
Single women broke huge for Dems in 2004 and 2006. I wish I could remember the exact margins, because it would be useful for this post. Also, we are working on doing more with Page in the future.

As far as the single women's vote goes, I bet it breaks pretty heavily for Clinton. She seems to do well among all Democratic women.

[ Parent ]
I would be interested to know, though (0.00 / 0)
My experience doing focus groups in California was that the views of single women were actually dramatically different than those of married women across ethnic lines when it came to the candidates, with single women going for Obama and others going strongly for Clinton.

Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards.

[ Parent ]
I'd also like to know (0.00 / 0)
If there was a class division among African-Americans in terms of which candidate they were supporting, Clinton or Obama.

[ Parent ]
U.S. House Exit Poll 2006 (0.00 / 0)
Unmarried Women (18%): (for D)66% (for R)32%
Exit Polls

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Polling says otherwise... (0.00 / 0)
Single women are the MOST likely of any demographic to say they'll vote for Hillary.
A majority of single women view Mrs. Clinton favorably, while married women are split. Thirty-nine percent of married women like Mrs. Clinton - about as many as like her two closest Democratic rivals, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois and former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina.

You can also check this New York Times chart.

[ Parent ]
Good analysis/GLBT issues (0.00 / 0)
I like this analysis Chris. These parts of the progressive coalition really do follow different pulls at the moment.

As for the GLBT community: I find it useful to remember that visible gay folks (of whom I am one) are the beneficiaries of a largely successful civil rights struggle. As such, our community now has the freedom (and the curse) of displaying the same class and interest differentiation that other communities also have won. A successful civil rights struggle, winning something close to formal legal equality, enables previously united communities to splinter along interest lines. So though in the general we'll be very Democratic voters, in the primaries we may spread ourselves in multiple directions. You only vote in unity when you feel the alternative will kill you -- quite a few of us don't feel that way anymore. Gay Republicans sure are a weird bunch tho.

Can it happen here?


Truer words (0.00 / 0)
"You only vote in unity when you feel the alternative will kill you -- quite a few of us don't feel that way anymore. Gay Republicans sure are a weird bunch tho."

Yeah, you got that right. These days, it does seem like the alternative will kill you, perhaps especially among the GLBT community.

[ Parent ]
I think it's because we don't know what we stand for (0.00 / 0)
As progressives, we just haven't united around what it is that we're about that doesn't involve a laundry list of issues. In particular, as I have argued before: what is our moral center?  What is a compelling common goal for us to all rally around? It's not one candidate, I'll tell you that. It's an idea, a message. As I've also said before, we can use candidates to help us get there, but we've got to do this hard coalition work ourselves.

I had a big revelation at YearlyKos that gets at this, which I am going to write about as soon as I can actually sit down and process some more (Chris, you are amazing for getting so much thinking out so quickly).


Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards.


I Can't Wait (0.00 / 0)
I've got some suggestions of my own. But the comment I wrote just growed to diary length.  So I'll simply say I'm encouraged by the prospect.

[ Parent ]
What happened to the Young? (0.00 / 0)
Seems you forgot a big portion of that equation.  It sure looks like that group is lining up heavily with Obama - both the young and the forever young.

The young are sort of covered (0.00 / 0)
by the other demographics, especially the "non-white and non-Christian." About 61% of the age 18-42 population in America fits into one of those two demographics, and Dems are taking a similar percentage of the vote among voters under 30. So, the way I figured it, the "young" part of the coalition was subsumed under other groups.

[ Parent ]
Subsuming (0.00 / 0)
It's an interesting point - how do those groups break when someone crosses more than one line.  I would guess Youth would often trump other categories - a young Union member fall more in line with his age than his labor affiliation.  (Matter of fact I wonder if Labor is a categorical whole anymore beyond the power of its purse).  But the same may go with the others as well - I believe there already have been polling in the Black Community which shows the split between Obama and Clinton fall along age lines.

[ Parent ]
Probably varies from issue to issue (0.00 / 0)
Young union members are probably more pro-gay rights than older union members, who are probably more anti-war. However, both are probably the same when it comes to being pro-government programs. I imagine there is not hard and fast rule.

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How credible is this coalition? (0.00 / 0)
Some more devil's advocating:

To start with, these are voters who vote overwhelmingly Dem already - that's how they qualified for inclusion in the coalition in the first place!

So - what does majoring on their concerns do for attracting votes from the demos who aren't so overwhelmingly Dem?

Perhaps it positively detracts from the effort to get votes from those other demos because it can be characterized (will be by the usual suspects) as a recurrence of the old Dem interest group politics of the 70s.

Also, the thought might cross people's minds that this sort of agenda is the equivalent of the GOP wedge issues - as opposed to issues like healthcare which are hugely difficult to do anything effective about any time soon.

Plus - what does the non-progressive wing of the Dem party - the Old Guard - make of this approach?

On the one hand, they see a move to deprive them of a chunk of their power; on the other, they see the progressive movement provide a load of ammo to the GOP as being a return to the bad old days of the welfare queens.


Poor people (0.00 / 0)
Too bad we're not reaching out to the poor.  Only John Edwards is talking about them.  In 1968, we saw RFK come to Eastern Kentucky and turn Republicans into RFK Democrats with one visit.  I hope at some point the progressive blogoshere starts reaching for those votes that have no voice in current American politics.

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Splintering (0.00 / 0)
"Perhaps it positively detracts from the effort to get votes from those other demos because it can be characterized (will be by the usual suspects) as a recurrence of the old Dem interest group politics of the 70s."

Perhaps, but unlike the 1970's, these groups are now well on their way to becoming an overall electoral majority. So, the worry over splintering isn't as great as it was then. These groups, especial the NW / NC groups, are simply enormous, and on their way to becoming more so every day. As such, they are the ones to most worried about offending, not those who oppose them.

[ Parent ]
The NW-NC are on their way to being a huge majority (0.00 / 0)
You can't say this often enough. We all need to get this -- especially about the NW part of that equation since most of us don't belong to it.

Can it happen here?

[ Parent ]
But....but...but... (0.00 / 0)
We must never offend anyone. Especially those who  would ship us off to detention camps for our traitorous belief in democratic values.

Yeah...

Right.

There was nothing wrong with the Democratic Party in the 70s that a good solid pair of balls, metaphorically speaking, would not have put to the right. NIxon won on scaring the white voters with the niggers and the hippies, that would be me, things are a little different now.

Bubba from Limbaugh Land is about to be foreclosed on...

His niece is dodging IEDs in The MeatGrinder...

And the Latino and black voters are unified in their disgust with the corrupt, vile Republican Party.

The solution to our situation is to help a truly progressive candidate break through to these groups, Bubba included, with the message that....

Everything the 'conservative' ReichWing has been telling them for the last 40 years is a lie.

That the way forward isn't with the likes of Romney or McCain or Rudy but with Edwards or Richardson or Gavel.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


[ Parent ]
A shame that folks haven't learned from.. (0.00 / 0)
...the BushCo scam of appointing 'independent' folks of color and/or women and then using them to ram through their fascist agenda.

Colin Powell....yeah, My Lai was jes a blip on his record.

Condi-lies-a-Lot....doesn't speak Russian, 'nuff said.

Abu Gonzo...well the ReThugs never were gonna hold the Latino vote with Tancredo et. al. yellin' up a storm.

Christine 'The Air is Perfectly Safe' Whitman...people are dead because of her.

My point?

Americans still haven't learned that what is important about a candidate is the sort of policy he/she espouses. Not their race or gender or even in many cases their party.

Not their 'character' which is totally a construct of their campaign strategy.

No, 'It's the Policy Stupid!'. Not 'how well-spoken she is...' or 'Such big shoulders he has....' or anything else that does not bear on their agenda for change. Real change...

As for the LGBT voter segment Edwards through his wife is attracting a lot of support in my area, San Francisco, amongst those who are paying attention.

Clinton will be  disaster if elected. She is part of the establishment which appointed Bush and thinks things would be just fine if all the liberals, progressives and bloggers would shut the fuck up and....

Clap Louder!

So...

Can we throw her under the bus and get on with trying to elect a true progressive to the Presidency.

Or do we have to keep on 'keeping our powder dry...'

I'll take my answer off the air.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


You're Absolutely Right, But (0.00 / 0)
The success of those games is deeply rooted in human nature.  So, too, of course, is the effectiveness of logical fallacies.  To fight such deeply rooted tendencies, one must first appreciate why they are so seductive, what it is that they deliver.

The easy part--for us, at least!--is seeing through these things.  The hard part is to figure out effective ways of reaching those who don't.

In part the task is the opposite of "framing a guilty man."  Real character is intimately related to policy, for example.  (i.e. It's why some rich folks care about the poor and others don't.)  And part of our task is discovering how to communicate this.


[ Parent ]
Yes a person's character is very.... (0.00 / 0)
important. The problem is that our political process has become the exercise in creating a totally false character for  a candidate and using it and the 'noise' in the media to completely obscure the policies said candidate would most likely implement.

People are beginning to look beyond the conventional cartoon presented by candidates which is the only thing the corporatist press knows how to present chiefly because....

They are scared.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


[ Parent ]
Making An Us (0.00 / 0)
The challenge here, really, is making an us out of a diverse coalition.

Of course, the GOP and conservatives in particular are far more diverse than they realize.  But they are all about hiding stuff, such as the fundamental animosity between libertarianism and social conservatism.  Or the utter dysfunction of divorce-plagued red state family values. So they only need a unifying narrative that sounds good to people interested in something to hide behind.

We need something considerably more: a unifying narrative that's actually a practical, works-in-the-real-world guide as well.

It may sound like a tall order to create such a thing.  But it's nowhere near as hard as trying to succeed without it.


a historical note (0.00 / 0)
There was no left progressive warmth for Hubert Humphrey.  We had no real knowledge of his role in Civil rights nor did we give LBJ credit for the Civil and Voting rights bills.  It seemed the right things to do and so we had no idea of how much skill and courage it took to do those things. Because of Vietnam they were both despised.

"Hee hey LBJ, who you gonna kill today?"


Coalitions (0.00 / 0)
a coalition of "the non-white, the GLBT, the unionized, and the non-Christian"

I might be inclined to just summarize this as

"Everybody Else".


decision time (0.00 / 0)
In comparing the RFK days to now, I think that it is important to remember that most draft age people and their parents could not easily "put off" a decision.

The stakes were very high and the push to decide now amongst candidates was very great.  Today, our candidates are trying to pull in voters.  There seems to be very little in the way of "push" factors.

The choice between McCarthy and RFK touched off a near civil war in the New Left.  Kennedy would have won that contest in the long run because he, more so than McCarthy, could bridge the anti-war and civil-rights movements.  By the way don't forget how much heat MLK took from the civil rights movement when he moved to include the anti-war movement in the overall struggle.  RFK was legitimizing and normalizing that wedding.

The moral issues of the war in Iraq should create a defining decision-making moment, but absent the ever present danger to nearly all draft aged kids, it simply doesn't.  Hence the back and forth on the web... maybe Obama... no no maybe Clinton... yeah but she said... damn Edwards is looking good... is it dinner time yet?

To me the present constitutional issues are a defining moment, but apparently, they are not for most people.

With all that said we had better be on the look-out for how to integrate some very very angry middle class whites who have lost their houses and their economic standing.  We do not want them to misguidedly join hands with the right-wing poor Republicans.  Somebody needs to get out in front of this housing/mortgage/banking crisis to bring this group into the progressive movement.

Sorry this post was longer than it should have been


Diversity Without Ideological Diversity? (0.00 / 0)
>Right now, each group appears to still have separate concerns that are leading them to support different candidates. As such, the values of that coalition don't even seem clear at this time. That strikes me as something worth worrying about, although I am open to arguments that indicate otherwise.<

I do not see a problem with non-Christians, non-Whites, unions, GLBT, single women, and the young not sharing complete and total ideological agreement.  Non-Christians are going to be far more sensitive to the risk of religious intolerance and anything that inches towards bridging the separation of church and state.  Unions and non-Whites may focus more on economic issues and not be as scared by moderate faith based initiatives.  Because of a history of being oppressed by the state, non-Whites, GLBT, and single women may be more skeptical of government surveillance and intrusion into privacy than the unions.  With studies showing that young single urban women are starting overcome the gender gap, if not leap out ahead, might they not have different issue priorities than other groups? 

I think we need to focus more on building a coalition that works, and sometimes has some tension between groups.  I think we need to move beyond just viewing the Democratic Party as a collection of special interests in which each group gets something from the government, some benefit or favor.  We need to focus more on a governing philosophy that paints a picture of how government ought to govern, what ought to be done, irregardless of it it means that a voter is specifically given some favor by the Democratic Party.  Think of the contrast between Chris Dodd's emphasis on how impeachment isn't a good idea because it doesn't do anything for the average voter, vs. a concept of government based on principles and it's the right thing to do to hold public officials accountable.


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