Progressive Arguments Win Big

by: Mike Lux

Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 16:00



I am headed to the airport in a bit, won't be able to respond to comments much immediately, but will be checking when I can over the next few days.

I am even more immersed in public opinion research than usual in this election year summer because of a project that the group I run, American Family Voices, is doing with  Drew Westen and with Stan Greenberg's research firms (Westen Strategies and Greenberg, Quinlan, Rosner Research).

As many of you know, Drew is a professor of psychology at Emory University who is probably the leading researcher in the country as to how people's brain react when they are thinking about politics.  Drew wrote a book called The Political Brain, which talked about how people react to politics more instinctually and emotionally than in a linear way and that politicians who campaign primarily by talking about 10 point plans and House Resolution 2459 are likely to lose.  The book also showed how networks in the brain are activated by certain words and symbols, and why it's important for political leaders to understand how those networks work. Regardless of what people think about the particular rational point that you make, they could easily get turned off if you activate the wrong associations in their brain (e.g., gun control, which trips over a fundamental American value about independence, as opposed to "common sense gun laws," with which most voters-including gun owners-actually resonate).

Drew and Stan Greenberg and I began talking several months ago about doing a project where Drew's ideas on political issue messaging were thoroughly tested in a real-world political context using more traditional polling techniques.  We wanted to see if, through trial and error research, we could come up with ways to frame messages on some of the most controversial issues that are out there that would win over the broad majority.  With the support of some forward-thinking progressive donors (the project took 10 months and hundreds of hours of work), we were able to do the research, and to look at some of the hottest button issues around - among them gay marriage, immigration, guns, national security, and taxes - and discovered that for the most part, progressives can win solid majorities for their stands on these issues even in regions and demographic groups not normally thought of as progressive.

More in the extended entry.

Mike Lux :: Progressive Arguments Win Big
That's the good news, and it is very, very good.  We presented thousands of likely voters in a nationwide sample with carefully developed, paragraph-length, values-based language in an audio format online, much as they would hear it in an ad or stump speech, generally 35-45 seconds.  We'd first tested and refined the messages in focus groups with voters in the political center.  After watching how people reacted to each message and each phrase using online dial tests, we will now test the refined messages through a nationally representative telephone survey.

Of the 10 issues we studied, we produced messages that won solid majorities nationally, some messages on nearly all issues by double-digits, against strong, well-branded conservative messages.  But what we also found is that there are deeply ingrained reasons why progressives have had trouble on these issues, and that those troubles won't go away without some inoculation on our part.  At times, that's going to mean using some language that some progressives may not be used to using, because the goal is to open the conversation on the issue by making it clear that progressives and Democrats aren't the elitist, culturally suspect left-wingers that many swing voters think we are.  Sometimes that means taking back traditional American values that progressives hold as strongly as conservatives but never talk about, like personal responsibility.  Sometimes it means using words people have come to associate with the right but that can be reclaimed as part of a progressive narrative.

Let me give you some examples:  

What we found on issue after issue is that if we led our messages with the more traditional liberal language about the issues, people stopped listening and we got generally poor results.  If, however, we started our message with language that showed we were aware of the ambivalence most people have about controversial issues, demonstrating that we weren't dismissive of the concerns they might have on those issues, we were able to open the door to them understanding and supporting our stand on the issue.

On the role of government, for example, our two most effective messages began:

- "We need leaders who take personal responsibility for their actions and expect the same from our government..."

- "It's time politicians stopped running for or against government, and start running it well...."

By beginning the message with phrases that many people associate with conservatism like "personal responsibility," we help inoculate progressives and open voters up to hearing the progressive point of view - those opening sentences were followed by very progressive language on health care, energy, investing in education, and attacking big business.

We discovered that the same approach works well on virtually all of the "wedge" issues we tested.  On abortion, one of our strongest messages started with the phrase, "Freedom and responsibility go hand in hand.  That's why I'm both pro-choice and pro-personal responsibility."  Our best message on guns started with, "My view on guns reflects one principle: that our gun laws should guarantee the rights and freedoms of all law-abiding Americans," and went on to support the right of law-abiding Americans to hunt and protect their families but also to see their kids come home safely from school.  One of our most successful messages on gay unions led by acknowledging that marriage is a religious term as well as a legal one, and said that "in this country, we don't' force one person to live by another person's interpretation of scripture"-a point that cuts both ways. Our most successful marriage on gay unions talked about "treating everyone fairly under the law," about not discriminating with specific examples of ways that gay and straight people should be treated fairly, instead of vague references to "rights."

The language we used that worked was generally tough, and even macho and nationalistic at times, redressing the view that progressives are weak and unpatriotic.  Several of our messages on the economy dominated the conservative standard principles, including one that started with the single sentence, "I want to see the words 'made in America' again..." and then took a strong populist position on trade and outsourcing.  On national security and Iraq, we were able to win with multiple messages, many of which espoused very progressive points of view, but all of which shared one characteristic:  They demonstrated conviction and toughness in that conviction.

As with any honest polling, there was also some tough news, although probably most people won't be surprised at much of it. Some of the progressive messages we tested just didn't work, especially without the inoculating language upfront. Although all the language on our side that we tested lined up with the legislative positions of most of the democratic caucus, and far to the left of the existing law on most subjects, we did test a variety of policy positioning, and on many wedge issues found higher positives on more centrist Democratic positioning.  Progressive messages on guns won by 10-20 points over the traditional conservative "they want to take away your guns" language that has led Democrats to be silent on this issue, suggesting that we should be playing offense, not defense on guns.  But you don't win support for progressive positions on gun issues (background checks, outlawing assault weapons, etc.) unless you make clear from the start that you want to preserve the rights of the people to own guns for hunting and "protecting their families."  Similarly, progressive policies on immigration are far more acceptable if you start with tough language on securing our borders and the importance of immigrants learning English. Of course, many of the right and the left actually converge on many of these points, but for different reasons.  Progressives have no desire to see the development of a permanent underclass, and the best way to create one is to fail to teach English to new immigrants and their children. In fact, a progressive message that builds the concept of the American Dream into the importance of speaking English does well with people in both the center and the left.

Some of these are tough issues, especially immigration and gay marriage, and not everything we tried worked.  We had to experiment with several different messages on some of them before we were able to make them emotionally compelling to the majority of voters. But the point is that it is possible to win on every one of these issues, and to do so in some very unlikely regions of the country.  While in many cases we had to use the kind of "inoculating" language I discussed to allow people to first feel comfortable that the speaker shares their values and understands their concerns, the language we ultimately developed and tested was always very clear on the progressive policies it advocated.  What our work documented is that Democrats and progressive can take clear progressive positions, even on the toughest issues, and that we can stop being fearful and cautious about the issues we advocate for. In fact, Drew's bottom line message in his book is that progressives and Democrats hurt themselves more by being mealy-mouthed on issues more than they ever have by taking strong stands.  When you show yourself to be weak and wish-washy, you send the red flags shooting up high.

We can win on all these issues if we use language that regular people can relate to, and we can win by being strong and clear in terms of where we actually stand.

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First in series? (4.00 / 5)
This is very interesting and hopefully the first in a larger series of posts.  I'm interested to learn exactly what worked and, almost as important, what did not work.

agreed (0.00 / 0)
Yes, count me in as someone that can't wait to see the actual examples, numbers, etc.

But I am also interested in hearing the arguments about the pitfalls and dangers of inoculation language.  And all-in-all, the whole concept of language refinement is an issue that the left has been far behind the right on - Frank Luntz immediately comes to mind.


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Well, I'm Very Happy To Hear This (4.00 / 2)
Not that it's the least bit surprising.  (See, for example, how well Howard Metzenbaum did in 1988, at the same time Dukakis was losing Ohio badly.)  But having the results in black and white across a wide range of tough issues should be very helpful, indeed.

So, when do we get a more detailed account?

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


Yes, we want more details!! (4.00 / 1)
This is fascinating.

John McCain thinks we haven't spent enough time in Iraq

[ Parent ]
More details (0.00 / 0)
We're still talking through how much to share publicly vs. how much to shield from our friends on the right, but we'll definitely write and talk more about this in the coming weeks.

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This inoculating idea (4.00 / 2)
Is very interesting, thanks.

So where's the data? The papers? The Research? Or are you keeping this stuff under wraps so that the right doesn't get their hands on it?

I blog on InnermostParts.org


I never voted for John McCain


Yeah, publish the whole thing, please (4.00 / 1)
Toss it up as a pdf so I can print and read on the bus!

John McCain, just like that.



[ Parent ]
Fascinating. (0.00 / 0)
And I must say that the parallels with the language and message used by a certain presidential candidate are quite striking.

Not to digress, but... (0.00 / 0)
Why is an argument that is pro-"gun laws" even associated in the year 2008 with Progressive positions?

Why are we beating our heads against the semantic wall for the enactment and extension of "sensible gun laws" at all?

Three liberals who are "sensibly" and publicly pro 2nd Amendment (and immediately come to mind) are:

1) Howard Dean (gleefully quoted at Westin's site)
2) Markos Moulitsas
3) Glenn Greenwald

The more important question of whether recent book author and political consultant Professor Westin's "theories" are just Lakoff's frames dressed up in pseudo-psychology pablum aside for a moment, the idea that opposition to "sensible gun laws" is politically Centrist is highly debatable, to say the least.

Obviously labeling any laws as "sensible" is a potentially workable rhetorical device.  But the fact that "you don't win support for progressive positions on gun issues (background checks, outlawing assault weapons, etc.) unless you make clear from the start that you want to preserve the rights of the people to own guns for hunting and 'protecting their families'." is just as obvious, as is the notion that preserving the individual liberties enshrined in the Bill of Rights is an entirely Progressive position on its face.

Being pro-DC handgun ban isn't just politically foolish no matter how one's language adheres to market-tested consultant-speak, it's also not a Progressive ideal worth defending in any terms.


Because the Conservatives. (4.00 / 1)
with their easy gun laws, have caused countless unneccessary deaths?

If you liked Bush, you'll love McCain

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Don't forget Dr. Dean (0.00 / 0)
Obviously the NRA's past A rating of the current DNC chair when he was governor of Vermont has "caused countless unneccessary deaths" as well.

Wow.  Who knew that the reason it's Progressive to prioritize the passage and expansion of gun laws was because the Democratic Party chair was effectively co-responsible for genocide?


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Call me crazy, (3.20 / 5)
but I think it would be a good idea to write gun laws that serve the American people, instead of arms dealers.

Everyone knows the NRA is really the gun manufacturers' lobby -- they pay Congress to keep gun laws soft and easy in order to keep the grey market flourishing. The arms dealers sell guns to criminals, knowingly and on purpose, then they sell guns to people who are afraid of becoming the victims of criminals. It's a lucrative business, if you don't mind the dead bodies.

If you liked Bush, you'll love McCain


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Interesting that Obama often uses inoculating language (4.00 / 2)
And on issues which you touch on, like guns and abortion.  I think that using the language of personal responsibility is good.  Why do liberals mistrust it?  Because at one time liberals attributed things like crime to conditions like unemployment, discrimination and poverty.  It was thought somehow racist not to stress the conditions that many people who commit crimes live in.  But most people who live in those conditions DON'T commit crimes, and most of the worst crimes (in terms of lives ruined) are committed by white collar financial criminals. And Obama is absolutely right that it takes a combnination of personal responsibility and real opportunity to get people out of poverty and up the ladder.  Neglecting one side or the other is just a cop out.  But personal responsibility should be stressed in other contexts as well, along with responsibility for the larger society.  "From those to whom much is given, much is expected."

And as for taking strong stands, you will get no arguments on that one here, I'm sure.  Mealymouthed, focus-grouped talking points are never going to convince anyone.  We need candidates not just at the top but all down the line who have actually read and thought about issues themselves and come to some sort of position based on their values and clearly articulate that position, not just regurgitate a briefing memo from their staff.  

What did you find on gay marriage?  Often the best argument is that marriage is generally good for individuals and promotes social stability, so why not let even more people marry, to maximize the benefit?  That and, of course, fairness.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


Inoculation Language (4.00 / 1)
Obama is very good at this.  But this is also the area where he has gotten into the most trouble with his base.  Paul, for example, has written volumes of posts criticizing Obama for his inoculation language.

I point this out not to show that Obama and/or the base is wrong, but to highlight the pitfalls.  Most Democrats say stuff that sounds like this inoculation language but takes it too far or directly violates the actual liberal position.

Or, perhaps, there really is a conflict here?  Is possible that the goals of hegemony and inoculation are in conflict beyond simply getting candidates to "be careful"?  I don't think there is a conflict as long as one is careful, but it would be interesting to dive into the details and figure out if this is true or not.


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The question is what is the goal (0.00 / 0)
Mike is talking about how to approach swing voters.  Some people think swqing voters are a mirage, and that Obama should appeal only to the base, by drawing clear contrasts.

I think that because Obama is perceived as a bit too "different" by some traditional Dem constituencies, he has to go more out of his way to make people of different views feel comfortable with him so that they can hear his message on economic issues, say.  At the same time, because he hasn't identified himself so tightly with traditional liberal language, and talks about reaching across partisan lines to solve problems, disaffected GOPers and some kinds of swing voters are attracted to him.  Look at how he's doing in the Dakotas of all places, or Montana.  Or most of the Midwest.

He's a different kind of candidate in more than the obvious ways, and our first real 21st Century candidate.  So the traditional categories and ways of looking at things don't alweays fit.  

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


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Both are goals (0.00 / 0)
The question is whether the goals are compatible or not, in the same speech at the same time.  The question really isn't about Obama, but about how progressives should speak and market themselves in general.

For obvious example, take the suggested line

my view on guns reflects one principle: that our gun laws should guarantee the rights and freedoms of all law-abiding Americans.

If you goal is to ban guns outright, this line is counter to your goal.  For some, this would be an actual move to the right.  If you actually agree with this and only want better methods to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and children, then this is fine.

Or even then, some might claim this pushes the conversation to the right even if the goal is more moderate.  I would disagree with that, but it is close to what Paul has argued in his discussions on hegemony.  I think Paul would be fine with this quote as well, but I'm not completely sure.  This is exactly the kind of conversation I'd like to have at this site.

My personal view is different people are at different places, thus the same words can have longer term effects that differ for different people.  So there is no perfect answer, you just have to learn to play the odds.

More obviously, there is a difference between short term gain and long term gain.  When a politician convinces someone s/he isn't that far to the left, he helps in the short term but hurts in the long term.  The goal is to find a message that implies to some ears you aren't too far to the left while simultaneously pushing the country's narrative to the left.  

In theory it is easy; it all comes down to making yourself and liberal ideas not seem very radical.  The hard part is to avoid implying that the left (in some form or another) is radical and that you are the special exception.  It is an easy trap to fall into.


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Agreed. (0.00 / 0)
Your point was good.  I think you and I pretty much agree.  I question whether Paul is really part of Obama's base.  I think he's got a different role, pushing the whole debate to the left.  Obama wants to win.  That's a different task.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.

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This is Excellent! (0.00 / 0)
Mike, I hope you will consider publishing you research. I though Drew Westen's book was excellent and spelled out exactly what Democratic candidates need to be doing.  

This is great (4.00 / 2)
but my one question is about how you tested what people understood this language to mean--meaning.

I ask that because there is a danger in using a quantitative test (e.g., a dial, an election) without somehow verifying with a qualitative test (e.g., a conversation) exactly what it is that people think they are hearing.  The danger is victory by technology.

How do you know, for example, that the language you tested this way did not convince the listener that the candidate is actually talking about something that they are not?  That's not to imply sinister intent.  Of course not.  Keep in mind that my question is sincere--but that it is based on the reality that testing for success in electoral politics tends to gravitate towards persuasion by numbers, rather than persuasion by idea.  

So how did you do the latter?  How did you guys also test whether or not progressive ideas were successfully being spread in addition to just whether or not a person was being persuaded to pull a lever?

Let me give you one example:  gun rights.  If you made it clear from the start, as you recount, that you want to preserve the right of people to own/use guns for hunting and to protect their family, after which you advance the progressive idea--what you mean by that does not yet make sense to me.  The progressive idea is that the gun debate should be about gun use, not gun ownership.  Progressives believe that the state should primarily use guns to protect citizens, not individuals. Progressives using guns for sport should be legal, but regulated, etc., etc.  IOW:  progressives believe something that overlaps in meaning in only a minor way with the what conservatives want the debate to be about:  ownership.  Did your gun language convince the listener that progressives are concerned primarily with gun ownership?

And keep in mind that I am someone deeply invested in the project of finding successful language for campaigns, and welcome this research.


Good questions. (0.00 / 0)
We tested lots of different kinds of language on issues, knowing that not all Deomcrats, or even all progressives, agree on every issue. On guns, for example, it is clear just from the responses here that progressive folk have a range of perspectives on the issue. Personally, coming from the small town midwest as I do, I can't imagine ever supporting a law that would completely take away the ability of people to own guns, but I strongly support all the legislation that gun safety groups have proposed in recent years.
We did try to be very clear in our messages exactly what we were proposing and what we opposed in terms of actual policy proposals.  

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OK...but there's no such thing as (0.00 / 0)
"a law that would completely take away the ability of people to own guns."  There's no serious legislative initiative anywhere to strip all Americans of all guns.  When that kind of language is used in the gun debate, it is used by the NRA to encourage people to see liberal positions on the regulation of gun use as something other than what they actually are, thereby, garnering support for NRA's push to expand conceal-carry handgun rights at the state level.  So there is a perfect example of language that was researched so as to be used to relay the opposite meaning that the words carry.  And that is the tricky part about this kind of initiative.  

My question is not about the clarity of the language chosen, but about the emphasis put on the message received.  Reader or listener reception research is notoriously difficult.  And it most definitely cannot be collected quantitatively.  

It's OK if there's no answer at this stage--but in the long run, these kinds of questions will be asked.

Good luck with the project.  I look forward to learning more about the results.  Fascinating stuff.


[ Parent ]
Great stuff (4.00 / 1)
as long as we don't start to adopt our innoculation as our substantive understanding of ourselves. That's not a simple qualification. We don't want to reinforce a macho nationalism. We do think that it is morally and politically necessary to lay out the ethical case that discrimination is wrong. We have values that we are trying to promote -- "messaging" those values can communicate -- or it can undermine what we believe.

Where do our values fit? This is, after all, not ultimately so much a contest of policies as a contest of values.

Can it happen here?


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