More And Worse Democrats

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Aug 05, 2008 at 13:15



Another poll came out today showing McCain with the narrowest of national leads, this time from the much-maligned Zogby, that shows McCain ahead by a single point, 42%-41%. It is kind of hard to respect a pollster that puts pop-up ads on his own website, but I digress. That margin is identical to the one from Rasmussen again today. The national margin from Pollster.com is down to only a 2.0% lead for Obama, equaling his lowest margin since Clinton dropped out of the campaign on June 7th.

The changing partisan environment is a double-edged sword in this election that helps explain why Obama isn’t performing better against McCain, even though downticket Democrats across the country seem to be performing extremely well. Simply put, there are more Democrats, but fewer of them are supporting Obama than supported recent Democratic nominees.

As the New York Times notes today, Democrats have made broad gains in partisan registration, relative to Republicans, in virtually every state with partisan registration. This is related to the broad shift toward Democrats in partisan self-identification, which, according to outlets like Rasmussen and Pew, now gives Democrats an edge they haven’t enjoyed in over twenty years. However, a Democracy Corps composite poll released today shows that virtually all of the groups were Obama is under-performing compared to 2004 and 2006 are almost all Democratic self-identifiers:

Obama’s current margin compared to Democrats in 2004 / 2006
White Younger Democrats (11% of the electorate): – 9% / – 14%
White Liberal Democrats (12%):  – 7% / – 5%
White Democratic Women (15%): – 6% / – 16%
White Older Democrats (14%): – 4% / – 16%
White Older Democratic Women (8%): – 3% / – 16%

This mirrors the findings of the Gallup poll, where Obama is overperforming Kerry in virtually every demographic, but underperforming among Democrats.

So, there are lots more Democrats, and as such local, downticket Democrats around the country are performing extremely well. However, Obama is underperforming among a wide range of white Democratic groups, thus preventing him from taking advantage of the newfound Democratic edge. In an attempt to avoid simplistic answers, there are at least four reasons why Obama is underperforming among these groups:

  • First, anytime your coalition increases in size, it becomes less coherent. Even though Democrats were never a particularly tight and coherent group, the new, larger coalition is even less tight and less coherent.
  • Second, McCain has always scored well among Democratic self-identifiers, which was why he was the only Republican who had a chance in this cycle. For example, Quinnipiac previously showed that McCain underperformed among Republicans, but overperformed among Democrats.
  • Third, there is clearly a racial element, given that all of the groups where Obama is performing worse come among white voters.
  • Fourth, Obama isn’t running as a partisan, and his campaign’s strategy is not geared toward increasing his margins among the base.

So, in many ways, this is to be expected, even if it isn’t comforting. While there are more Democrats, Obama is not performing very well among Democrats, at least relative to 2004 and 2006. Hopefully, this provides an explanation for why Democrats in general are performing so well, but Obama isn’t. Just because we can elect Travis Childers does not necessarily mean that we will dominate every permutation of a national election.
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no reason to obsess about polls under after the conventions (0.00 / 0)
There will be a rally round effect after the naming of the vp and the convention week that should reverse the trends among Democratic self-identifiers.  

 
Right… but needs to be sustained… (0.00 / 0)
Every bump that Obama has receieved so far has been just that… a short bump, quickly restoring to a slight Obama lead or dead heat.

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Gosh, (4.00 / 5)
call me naive, but if I were running in this environment, I would run as a Democrat and not some “post-partisan” fence-stradler.  Maybe this run to the middle we’ve been seeing is not only unnecessary but counterproductive.

And if Chris’ reasons for the tightening poll numbers are true, then I’m going to stop bitching about the Obama campaign ignoring our local candidates.  It might be beneficial for them to distance themselves from him.


 
I think it would be more accurate to phrase this (0.00 / 0)
in terms of McCain.  McCain is polling better among Democrats than Bush did, but worse with all other groups.  Not that surprising when you think of national image he has crafted over the years.  

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

 
It's both (0.00 / 0)
McCain is the best nominee the Republicans could have gotten for this climate.  he is his own brand…not necessarily a Republican brand.

second let us not forget that of the top 3 Dems, Clinton and Edwards got their support more from Democrats.  In Iowa Obama’s winning argin came from independents and some Republicans.  They rightly identified his true incliniations.

He too touts himself as a brand more than he touts the Democratic party brand.


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Seems like (0.00 / 0)
the liberal and young pieces up there are pretty likely to come home eventually. I was musing yesterday that part of Obama’s small dip in the polls was due to disenchantment on the left. They won’t swing to McCain and I have a hard time believing any demonstrable portion are willing to go third party after the past eight years.

John McCain opposes the GI Bill.

 
Racial element (0.00 / 0)
“Third, there is clearly a racial element, given that all of the groups where Obama is performing worse come among white voters.”

Bush won 58% of the white vote in 2004:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20…

The Democracy Corps report slices the vote pretty thin, but it’s hard to find any demographic that is swinging for McCain by 58%.  Scanning through, I see that White Liberal Moderate Republicans, White Younger Married Men, White College Republicans, White Republican Men, and White Older Republicans are the only groups which are receivng the same or greater margin than Bush received among white voters in 2004.  I might have missed some.

Obama is doing better among virtually every group of whites than Kerry did in 2004.  Wouldn’t this “racial” element be explained by other demographic data, like income or age?


 
The Zogby numbers are disastrous (4.00 / 2)
Not in the sense of the current horse race numbers, but disastrous because of how much Obama has fallen with every demographic he was previously dominating against McCain.

McCain is hammering Obama, absolutely hammering him, and Obama’s only response is to say that he’s “cynical.” It’s looking like Obama simply doesn’t know how to deal with the Republican attack machine. The public agrees with Obama on almost every major issue of this election, often by wide margins, and yet Obama is getting absolutely obliterated in the court of public opinion because he will not fight back.

Amazing. We’re watching another Dukakis/Kerry emerging right before our eyes.


 
Earlier today (4.00 / 2)
on MSNBC, there was a talking head from the DNC who sounded very “2004” in her responses to questions about McCain going after Obama.  To paraphrase her: “The American people don’t care about this kind of attack.  What they really care about is the economy, the high gas prices, blah, blah, blah…”

Yes, dear, they do care about this kind of attack.  Rove/Schmidt are at it again, and if Obama and his surrogates don’t realize what they’re up against quickly, come January 20th, we’ll see Bush III sworn into office.


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Except that it's Zogby n/t (0.00 / 0)


John McCain opposes the GI Bill.

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