Wall Street Journal Applauds Obama's Neo-Bushism--Amnesty International, Not So Much

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat May 16, 2009 at 14:30


The Wall Street Journal is mighty pleased with Obama:

Obama's Military Tribunals
Another Friday, another bow to Bush's antiterror legacy.

President Obama's endorsements of Bush-Cheney antiterror policies are by now routine: for example, opposing the release of prisoner abuse photographs and support for indefinite detention for some detainees, and that's just this week. More remarkable is White House creativity in portraying these U-turns as epic change. Witness yesterday's announcement endorsing military commissions.

White House officials insist that their tribunals will be kinder and gentler, stressing additional due-process safeguards for terrorists on trial for war crimes. But the debate that has convulsed the political system since 9/11 isn't about procedural nuances. It has been over core principles, with Democrats decrying a "shadow justice system" and claiming that "Our Constitution and our Uniform Code of Military Justice provide a framework for dealing with the terrorists."

The latter quote is from a speech by Senator Obama in 2007 denouncing "a legal framework that does not work." He also referred to the civilian criminal justice system and courts martial that Democrats then claimed, and many still claim, are the right venues for antiterror prosecutions. After the Supreme Court's Boumediene decision gave terrorists habeas rights, Mr. Obama again laid into the Bush Administration's "legal black hole" and "dangerously flawed legal approach," which "undermines the very values we are fighting to defend."

....Mr. Obama deserves credit for accepting that the civilian courts are largely unsuited for the realities of the war on terror. He has now decided to preserve a tribunal process that will be identical in every material way to the one favored by Dick Cheney -- and which, contrary to the narrative that Democrats promulgated for years, will be the fairest and most open war-crimes trials in U.S. history. Meanwhile, friends should keep certain newspaper editors away from sharp objects. Their champion has repudiated them once again.

And why shouldn't the WSJ be pleased?  Glenn Greenwald, who's been all over this for months now, offered this short list of what Obama has done just this week:

Paul Rosenberg :: Wall Street Journal Applauds Obama's Neo-Bushism--Amnesty International, Not So Much
This is what happened this week alone in the realm of Obama's approach to "national security" and civil liberties:
    Monday - Obama administration's letter to Britian threatening to cut off intelligence-sharing if British courts reveal the details of how we tortured British resident Binyam Mohamed;

    Tuesday - Promoted to military commander in Afghanistan Gen. Stanley McChyrstal, who was deeply involved in some of the worst abuses of the Bush era;

    Wednesday - Announced he was reversing himself and would try to conceal photographic evidence showing widespread detainee abuse -- despite the rulings from two separate courts (four federal judges unanimously) that the law compels their disclosure;

    Friday -  Unveiled his plan to preserve a modified system of military commissions for trying Guantanamo detainees, rather than using our extant-judicial processes for doing so.

Meanwhile, in a DKos diary, Amnesty International has this to say:

The Hits Keep Coming from Obama

By Tom Parker, Policy Director, (Counter) Terrorism and Human Rights

And the hits just keep coming. Despite its pledge to reintroduce greater transparency to government the Obama administration reversed itself again this week, announcing that it would now seek to block the release of detainee abuse photographs sought by the ACLU.

Then yesterday the CIA announced, in a fine example of Orwellian double-speak, that it would not release memos cited by former Vice-President Dick Cheney because they are subject to a Freedom of Information Act suit being pursued by Amnesty International USA, the Center for Constitutional Rights and the Center for Human Rights and Global Justice at NYU.

I'm not sure how many people have really grasped the full absurdity of that particular turn of events.  The Obama Administration has come up with a piece of double-think that could only have been inspired by Mr. Cheney himself, then turned around and used it against him, with only a wee bit of collateral damage on the entire fabric of 2500+ years of law and logic.

AI continues:

Amnesty does not often find itself on the same side of an argument as the former Vice President but on this occasion we welcome his late conversion to the merits of transparency in government.

And finally, the President confirmed today that his administration will reintroduce Military Commissions to try terrorism cases that cannot be successfully pursued in a federal court. Of course, he put it slightly differently but that is what the decision amounts to. Reverse engineering courts to work around mistakes and abuses that have been committed in the past is not a sound basis for any system of justice.

Indeed, this is the reductio ad absurdum of Obama's professed preference for avoiding structural change, in favor of tinkering a "compromise" whenever possible:

"I am agnostic in terms of the models that solve these problems," he said. "If the only way to solve a problem is structural, institutional change, then I will be for structural, institutional change. If I think we can achieve those same goals within the existing institutions, then I am going to try to do that, because I think it's going to be easier to do and less disruptive and less costly and less painful."

Who knew that Obama's aversion to structural change meant a strong preference for locking in pernicious Bush/Cheney policies which have radically altered American law and governance, rather than restoring America's values, ideals and best behavior?

Well, we know now.

And just to spell things out a bit more, take another look at what the WSJ said in its concluding remarks:

Mr. Obama deserves credit for accepting that the civilian courts are largely unsuited for the realities of the war on terror. He has now decided to preserve a tribunal process that will be identical in every material way to the one favored by Dick Cheney -- and which, contrary to the narrative that Democrats promulgated for years, will be the fairest and most open war-crimes trials in U.S. history.

Except, of course, we're not at war.  And no one who really knows their stuff thinks we should be.  Terrorists are criminals, not warriors, and military means are totally inappropriate for dealing with them.  For all the outward stylistic embellishments, including the dropping of BushCo's "War on Terror" brand, the core logic Obama's policy is no different from Bush/Cheney's, and it's that logic and that logic alone that gives the Wall Street Journal the foundation for its argument that finally Obama has come to his senses.

Osama bin Laden could not possibly be more pleased.  America's self-destruction continues apace.  He can continue to sit back and gloat, just as he has for the past 7 1/2 years.


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It's frustrating when people betray principle for politics (4.00 / 1)
But this is truly unbelievable.  While the MSM swoons because Obama is sticking it in the eye of the left (always good politics, they tell us), Glenn points out the newest media trope that Obama = Bush.  It's hard to imagine there is any political value in that.  I don't know why the Admin is betraying principles and playing politics on this issue so poorly, but I want no part of it.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

Such Is Imperialism (4.00 / 2)
Surprise! Surprise!  Obama's first allegiance turns out to be to American empire and its elite beneficiaries, rather than the American people and the American republic.  And he's orders of magnitude better at it than GW Gentleman's Cs ever dreamed of being.

As Condi Rice would say, "No one could have foreseen...."

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Maybe, but (4.00 / 1)
it's not really about Obama's personal ideology.  I don't know if he does these things because he believes in them, or because he feels he has to when faced with the pressure from the rest of the political establishment.  But this ship will not be righted based on who sits in the Oval Office.  (That's obviously not a defense of Obama.)

Until Democrats in Congress, or in the states, raise a ruckus over these sorts of decisions, until they put pressure on the White House from the left, I don't think we'll see the kind of fundamental change we need.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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Agreed (4.00 / 3)
I'm talking about what he does.

What else matters, really, when it comes to the public acts of a politician?

But by now, we have enough such acts on record that we can construct a somewhat useful map of expected behaviors, which is all the inner mapping we need.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I think it's not about his ideology... (0.00 / 0)
Gibbs was having a hard time even being believable when trying to explain the decisions... no one in the white house believes the tripe...

Either Obama's getting rolled by his generals or Axelrod is seeing something that is freaking him out...  Taking Dick Cheney's advice days after the "Cheney Torture Tour" was a bad, bad mistake, IMO, both in the long and short term... They're now letting Republicans dictate foreign policy from this point forward.  Giving up a key portion of your policy to your political enemies is never good politically...

The Obama doctrine has been set aside, for now, at least... the question is why Obama is willing to throw that difference away to adopt a fox news security position and let Republicans define the debate...

Something is scaring them... what, though?  Maybe, we'll get some answers, soon...

Hopefully, Axelrod seeing enough of "Obama is Bush" headlines in the paper will give him enough hee-bee-jeebies to force Obama back to his own doctrine.

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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That Would Be Their Shadows (4.00 / 1)
Something is scaring them... what, though?

Talking Newton here, not Jung.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Why just the Democrats? (0.00 / 0)
We need more political parties coming to prominence, ones that truly represent the public and its interests.  We're not going to do that by relying on the weak-willed Democrats to police their own, a strategy that has failed us for over thirty years.



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Is it surprise? (4.00 / 1)
Yes, in a way it was a surprise to me to see Obama morph so quickly and profoundly into the War Criminal - George W. Bush. A huge disappointment and an absolute tragedy for this country we call America. I honestly believe this "land of liberty" is no more, and Obama will nail the final lid on the coffin...Rest in Peace...

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It's not that I'm suprised, I guess (4.00 / 1)
It's not that I can't believe it of him or the Administration, I just find it harder to take.  

I think your right too that the speed of all this had caught me off guard.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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Obama is a fascist (4.00 / 1)
Obama is a fascist. He wasn't born won. He took jobs in a system that is well into it's development as a fascist system.

Fascism is exported by America overseas and is growing exponentially here in the U.S.

Soon you will wake up to discover you have no Social Security OR Medicare...Tim Geithner suggested as much...they need to be modified..."privatized".

It's quite clear to me and has been for YEARS ....that Obama and the Democrats would continue the wars in the Mideast...which are absolutely wars of the state...the state being industrial interests, namely the so called "defense" industry ...(which is an actually an industry that seeks to make America more VULNERABLE and less safe because it is PROFITABLE to do so) the financial industry, the pharmaceutical and chemical industries, and organized groups like AIPAC.

http://bushplanet.blogspot.com...

http://bushplanet.blogspot.com...


Living Up To Your Name Again (0.00 / 0)
You clearly have even less idea what fascism is than the folks who invented the "islamofascist" meme.

This sort of sloppy, unfocused anger is just exactly what they like.  They use it to dismiss all the hard work and careful analysis that could be used to actually inform and organize people to take positive action.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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What's your definition of Fascism and "Idealization" (0.00 / 0)
It's interesting that you dispute my definitions but don't correct them.

Fascism is, simply put state control through industry. Now a lot of people disagree on a definition of fascism...but that's one that some agree on.

This nation is controlled by industry whose sole representatives in Congress.

Brutal American fascism is evident in the Mid East. Domestic Fascism is developing.

My analysis are accurate and I have predicted these outcomes far in advance.

Analysis means nothing without understanding.

If you can understand something. You can make reasonalbly accurate predictions from that understanding.

Here is a sample.

http://bushplanet.blogspot.com...


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There Are Whole BOOKS On The Subject (0.00 / 0)
If you said gravity was the earth sucking, I wouldn't bother citing Einsteinian relativity, either.  I'd just say you were a dolt.

Same here, only moreso.  Throughout the many dark Bush/Cheney years there was considerable discussion of the stages of fascism, traits and examples of fascist movements vs. those with fascist tendencies, etc.  Your style of simple-minded name-calling was repeatedly criticized and/or rejected on countless occasions.  Sorry that you never got the memo.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Hymn to Himmler (4.00 / 1)
"Simple minded name calling"....isn't that what Himmler called it when defending Hitler? Or was it the Pope who said that?

My mind maybe be simple. I want to cultivate it that way.

Your mind is evidently complex,  with lots of grey areas and you live in a dangerous "world".


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Sweet (0.00 / 1)
To list these decisions without appropriate analysis and understanding is totally typical of you folks.

In reality, what we've had here is six days and five fine decisions by President Obama (you're forgetting today's announcement about Huntsman.)

I couldn't be more thrilled by what he's been able to accomplish in such a short amount of time as President and look forward to what's to come.


There's Been Plenty Of Analysis (4.00 / 1)
on Greenwald's blog and many other places.  To reiterate that in any detail would distract from the main thrust here, which is to discuss the pattern of the whole.  But discussion in detail is precisely why God invented comment threads.  So if you really had any sort of cogent defense of any of these decisions, no one was stopping you from presenting it.

Instead, we get the typical koolaid drinker's totally unsupported response: "It's all brilliant!"

You are, in fact, a perfect illustration of the mindless imperialist zombie state that my next diary is all about.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Awesome (0.00 / 1)
I'm a koolaid drinker now.  Kick ass!

Or maybe I'm not?  Perhaps I'm just a realist, a realist completely content with a President willing to fully explore all his options and not just take the easy way out.

I'm simply pointing out the idiocy of the attacks (including those from the left).  Some of you seem completely oblivious to reality.

I like to read and react via comment and express my belief of the absurdity and over reactive nature of nearly every attack on him.  In the event I become extremely irritated in a decision he makes, then I'll go ahead and express my outrage, but that hasn't happened yet

And being vocal about your disappointment doesn't make your opinion any less part of the minority.

I mean honestly now, when I take a step back and realize what it is I'm suppose to be outraged about...well...it's laughable.  Add in the "Obama is Bush", "Obama is Cheney", "Obama is a war criminal" crowd" and I laugh even more.

Meh, whatever man.  You all go on worrying about these little things...I don't really feel like getting distracted by these non-issues.


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Assertions, Assertions, And Still No Rational Argument. Why Am I Not Surprised? (4.00 / 1)
So, a President breaking his oath of office is just one of "these little things".

Good to know!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Don't forget about Congress (0.00 / 0)
The authority to create the Military Commissions was given by Congress.  Every single member of Congress who is not actively seeking to revoke that authority is complicit in this decision. Even if the Obama Admin wanted to go forward with this, he could be stopped if Congress so chose.

Congress has plenty of power to undo practical everything that Obama has done wrong or will do wrong regarding national security.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


Not Sure About This (0.00 / 0)
I believe Obama could simply veto anything Congress might do, which means we'd need a veto over-ride--simply not a possibility, unfortunately.

I could be wrong, as they might be able to act via budget authority.  But this is one area where I'd like to see more fact-gathering first.  Congress has plenty to answer for, that's for sure.  But this may not be a fight worth focusing on in this venue when we have so many others that are clearer.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Good point about the veto (0.00 / 0)
I'm not sure about the budget authority route either. I retract this part:

Even if the Obama Admin wanted to go forward with this, he could be stopped if Congress so chose.

But given that they did indeed give him (and Bush) this authority, I still think they should get some of the heat over this.  Reminding Congress that they are not innocent bystanders as we demand an end to presidentialism (to borrow heavily for Sirota) has benefits beyond the issue at hand.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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Agreed (0.00 / 0)
They should get heat, even if they can't do anything directly to undo it.  They can always make up for it by standing tall on something else.  It's not as if there are a shortage of pressing issues.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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There may be a small crevice between (0.00 / 0)
Pelosi and Obama on some of this. She now NEEDS a Truth Commission. She's the ultimate realist player, but the Reps effort to make her the poster child for not supporting the national security state has put her in a difficult position.

I think it would be useful to push her on to move this -- and tie her to whatever part of the Dem caucus has any backbone. Probably that's the set that supported McDermott's effort to get an Afghanistan exit plan.

Damn, I'm tired of being stuck in this movie; I feel like I've spent my entire political life trying to push Democrats in the right direction. The Republicans were just a horrible interruption. It's an age thing ...

Can it happen here?


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"Well, we know now." (0.00 / 0)
And some of us knew what Obama is long before the late-comers did.  Too bad our warnings were dismissed, marginalized, and ignored.  So now what do we do?  It's obvious we can't keep voting for Democrats when that political party insists on following the Republicans down the road to fascism.







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