Liberals Largest Ideological Swing Vote In 2008

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 17:00


It is a truism in politics that there are more swing voters in the middle of the electorate–self-identified moderates and Independents–than at the edges. However, exit polls indicates that is not necessarily the case. In fact, from 2004 to 2008, Democrats appear to have gained more votes from self-identified liberals than from any other ideological group.

  • In 2004, according to exit polls, 17.85% of the electorate were self-identified liberals who voted for Kerry

  • In 2008, according to exit polls, 19.58% of the electorate were self-identified liberals who voted for Obama.

  • From 2004 to 2008, exit polls estimate that the Democratic Presidential nominee improved his overall vote percentage by 1.73% entirely through self-identified liberals.
By way of comparison:
  • In 2004, according to exit polls, 24.84% of the electorate were self-identified moderates who voted for Kerry.

  • In 2008, according to exit polls, 26.40% of the electorate were self-identified moderates who voted for Obama.

  • From 2004 to 2008, the Democratic Presidential nominee improved his overall vote percentage by 1.56% entirely among self-identified moderates.
So, according to exit polls, Democrats actually gained more from 2004 to 2008 among self-identified liberals than among self-identified moderates. Conservatives were not far behind, either:
  • In 2004, according to exit polls, 5.44% of the electorate were self-identified conservatives who voted for Kerry.

  • In 2008, according to exit polls, 6.80% of the electorate were self-identified conservatives who voted for Obama.

  • From 2004 to 2008, the Democratic Presidential nominee improved his overall vote percentage by 1.36% entirely among self-identified conservatives.
Swing voters from 2004 to 2008 were spread fairly evenly across the ideological spectrum, with liberals, moderates and conservatives all making up significant portions. Although it is within the margin for rounding error, exit polling actually suggests that liberals were the largest swing voting block of all.

If elected officials primarily consider themselves accountable to voters who can potentially change their voting habits, and thus change the results of elections, it would be unwise to focus solely on the middle of the electorate. Roughly one-third of the swing voters that put Democrats in office are liberals, and as such Democrats need to keep those voters happy. Further, even apart from votes, the partisan and ideological base drives resources–donations, volunteers, positive messaging to family, friends and co-workers–which can in turn be used to acquire votes from non-base groups.

As such, while some Democrats may think there are no repercussions for using the partisan and ideological base as either a foil or a corner in a triangulation scheme, there are good reasons to think that that dissing the base is an extremely dangerous electoral strategy. While the 2000 election should have already made this obvious, these numbers further show the liberal vote is not static. The liberal vote can change in ways that can result in Democrats winning, or losing, elections.

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Statistical significance? (4.00 / 1)
Are exit polls both accurate enough and have a tiny enough margin of error that a 0.37% difference has any significant statistical significance?  

 
nope (4.00 / 1)
There is not statistical significance to prove that liberals were the largest swing vote.

However, there is enough to show they were a sizable swing vote. As such, Democrats who think that vote is static and thus can be used only as a foil are headed for electoral disaster.


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And they invite leftist challengers (0.00 / 0)
As we saw with Nader in 2000.

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Chris… one statistic missing (4.00 / 1)
that would be very helpful here would be the change in self-identifying liberals, etc amongst the electorate as whole.

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the only problem is that exit polls are worthless (4.00 / 1)
All you had to do is pay attention to the leaked exit polls over the course of the primary season and compare to actual results.  It’s clear they’re a fraud.

Actual exit poll result:

Black voter share dropped in NJ, 2008 from 2004. Sure.

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.


 
The President 's political peril (4.00 / 3)
resides in the office of Rahm Emanuel, a man who has been f**king stupid and unabashedly wrong since 2006.

Look: I’m not ‘just a blogger.’ I am an opinion leader, fiercely advocating for liberal and progressive causes all the time. If Rahm can’t get that “pajamas-wearing basement blogger” out of his head, he’s the one who’s f**king stupid.

I carry voter registration cards with me wherever I go, and don’t underestimate me or my capacity to drive an argument harder and faster than he can. I REGISTERED CLOSE TO ONE THOUSAND NEW VOTERS DURING THE ‘O8 CYCLE. That’s not f**king stupid “blogging” – that’s activism. And anybody can do it!

They only call it class war when we fight back.


 
Yeah, we don't need another 1994… (4.00 / 4)
And contrary to popular myth, one of the key factors in Democrats’ defeat that year was apathy from the base. While KKKarl Rove certainly overstated the “power of the base”, we nonetheless shouldn’t forget that turning out the base is ALWAYS important in winning an election. So why don’t Democrats realize that more often?

Yes, Virginia, there are progressives in Nevada.

 
i (0.00 / 0)
don’t think these numbers tell us much except Obama did better amongst all groups then Kerry did.

One election does not make a trend.


 
You missed the point (4.00 / 5)
The point is that the votes of liberals are not assured.  Lose those voters, and you can lose an election.

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it's a zero sum game (0.00 / 0)
that’s no different then saying “lose moderate voters and you can lose an election” or “lose conservatives and you can lose an election”.

pretty much the entire political spectrum was sick of the GOP. We can extrapolate that much from those numbers.  


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It's not a zero sum game (4.00 / 4)
You can easily appeal to liberals without alienating moderates. All you have to do is focus on areas where liberals and moderates are similar, or in areas where liberals care a lot and moderates do not.  

(The fact that everyone was sick of the GOP and the numbers for change was similar is actually the point. That liberals can also be lost.)

The Democratic establishment acts as though liberals are completely captive while everyone else is ready to bolt at the slightest whiff of non-conservative policies. Both assumptions are false.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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Great post (0.00 / 0)
This is so significant, and was so easy for you to prove, that I’m frankly shocked I haven’t seen it before.  I hope this is widely commented on, that the HuffPost picks it up, etc.

 
Mid terms (4.00 / 5)
Turnout in mid terms routinely drops a lot, around 30% to 40%.  Liberals are more likely to turn out than wishy washy conservadems.  Think 2010, think turnout.  

Your argument not only makes sense, it rings even more true for the midterms.  In 2006, for example, 10 million fewer Democratic votes were cast than in 2004 but 20 million fewer Republican votes were cast. That’s right.

The total for a much hyped election was roughly 81 million vs. 113 million (counts third party, only House totals compared).


 
If there was a place to move to… (4.00 / 1)
the swing is between showing up at the polls and not showing up. The latter is unacceptable.

 
but then there is this: (0.00 / 0)

http://www.pollster.com/polls/…

poll of all adults self-identify:

independents-34.6%
democrats-33.9%
republicans-22%

the movement away from both parties is striking


 
Yes and no (0.00 / 0)
For a year after a presidential election, that is also normal.

Then again, I imagine if bad economic performance persists, the trend you show will continue.  


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