Lieberman 2nd Most Admired Senator by Republican Insiders

by: Daniel De Groot

Tue Dec 15, 2009 at 22:30


From the National Journal's poll of insiders and members of Congress:

Thune aside, his fellow Republican members of Congress prefer Dr. No but the strategists give the edge to Holy Joe.

I can't say I blame them.  Maybe him and Robert Greene can pair up and write "The 60th Law; a Guide to Sociopathy for Legislators."

Some pretty good bits though from the full results inside.

Daniel De Groot :: Lieberman 2nd Most Admired Senator by Republican Insiders
Lieberman's reaction to the poll:


Lieberman, who caucuses with the Democrats but votes with Republicans on many matters, ranked second to Thune as the senator most admired by GOP Insiders. In his own caucus, the 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee came up empty, though. The Insider survey results made Lieberman laugh out loud when National Journal caught up with him in between a round of votes on health care amendments. "You've made my day," he said, chuckling. GOP Insiders revel in the Connecticut senator's pesky willingness to do what they described as "right," especially when he parts company with his liberal colleagues.

Of course he's delighted.

One of the polled Democrats (note that Reid did not make the list for Democratic congressional insiders):


Durbin. "Displaying quietly effective leadership in the shadow of a leader who has a difficult time leading."

Two of the polled Republicans:


Lieberman. "Doesn't care about the political consequences for doing what is right on terrorism and health care."
[...]
McConnell. "Gets more done with fewer voters than most leaders in either majority or minority in my lifetime."

Normally this sort of insidery gossip and veneration annoys me, but damn if this doesn't confirm a lot what we're seeing out of the US House of Lords.

The people polled are listed here.


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Silver lining in Gore/Liberman 2000 "loss" (0.00 / 0)
This guy has shown his true colors. Good thing he wasn't in the WH when he did it.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


Speaking of the House of Lords (4.00 / 2)
The Senate really is like that. Especially with a 60-vote threshold it's just ridiculous. What we need is a long term strategy to marginalize the Senate just like they've done with the HoL in England. We've done such things before - electoral reform regarding senators and the president that helped the country adapt to evolving democratic norms. It needs to happen again.

Normative change (4.00 / 2)
Is far more powerful than Americans tend to credit, but it's what keeps the Electoral college electors in line, and kept the Democratic Superdelegates in line, and it once kept FDR from stacking the supreme court.


[ Parent ]
Very True (4.00 / 1)
Much of what people today take as "in the Constitution" is really the normative gloss that history has put on the document. My favorite is today's electoral college, which bears absolutely no resemblance to the institution the Framers tried to create, yet people say we can't change it because of the Framers' design.

Jack Balkin and his colleagues have put this idea at the fore of their understanding of constitutionalism. I wish more progressives would pay attention to this idea - too many people put all the attention on who gets appointed to the SC (not unlike the presidency) and none to these issues.

Who are the best keepers of the people's liberties? The people themselves. The sacred trust can be no where so safe as in the hands most interested in preserving it.
James Madison


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Does anyone want to go back to the Framers' intent? (0.00 / 0)
Which sounds like basically a third chamber of Congress whose sole responsibility is choosing a president?

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

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No - but they do appeal to it (4.00 / 1)
to argue against amending how we elect the president or to argue against various changes that don't require an amendment (like having states give the EV's to the winner of the national popular vote).  

The Constitution would allow any state to choose its electors by lottery if they wanted. (I prefer NPV.)

Who are the best keepers of the people's liberties? The people themselves. The sacred trust can be no where so safe as in the hands most interested in preserving it.
James Madison


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You got to give him credit. (0.00 / 0)
He kicked progressive ass, and then handed it to them.   Right now, he is the most effective man up there. He got everything he wanted, and he's not done yet. Rahm is going to give him Obama's lunch money next.  

They're asking for another four years -- in a just world, they'd get 10 to 20. ~~ Dennis Kucinich  

Yeah, when the rest of the class are pussies, the bully rulez! (4.00 / 1)
But giving him credit for his mobbing would go way too far. He should be kicked out of school instead.

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