Gibbs' real message: Reality is the enemy

by: Paul Rosenberg

Thu Aug 12, 2010 at 13:30


Something digby said caught my eye:

From the sound of Gibbs's comments this morning, I'm fairly sure he wasn't speaking out of school yesterday. They're working the refs. I would guess they see some evidence of creeping Maddowism among the Village cognoscenti and the big liberal donors. I would also guess that it's going to have some effect, at least in the short term. Certainly people like Ruth Marcus will be well rewarded for drawing the proper lines.

And what is Maddowism?  Well, not falling for the shiny object routine, for one thing.  As in seeing that the story was the the run-amok war, not the run-away general.  They're trying to get back on track with Patreaus reinstituting the Forever War, and they definitely don't want more Maddow-style coverage on that front, or any other one, thank you very much.

More basically, Maddowism is not Joe Kleinism. Your typical Versailles liberal doesn't actually stand for anything, and mostly just exists as a foil for conservatives.  Hence, Joe Klein => Joke Line.

This is pretty much a trickle-down consequence from how the big money boys have kept Democrats like Ben Nelson around on life support for when they need some cover, as described in the new paper by Hacker & Pierson, "Winner-Take-All Politics: Public Policy, Political Organization, and the Precipitous Rise of Top Incomes in the United States", that I quoted from yesterday:

The need of the Democrats to respond to this formidable organizational machine encouraged them to adopt a more accommodative stance toward business. And business money did flow to Democrats, though in different ways and for different reasons. If money to the GOP was an investment, money to Democrats was a form of insurance. Revealingly, the money went largely to individuals rather than to the party as an organization. It was destined for the powerful and "moderates."

What we're talking about, quite simply, is the difference between "reality" as defined by the top 1% or 0.01% of the income pyramid and reality as defined by all of us:  The reality in which thousands of street lights are being turned off all across America, tens of thousands of teachers, cops and firefighters are being fired or furloughed, and roads are de-paved and turned into gravel.

In short, the enemy isn't you and me, dear reader.  We just don't matter that much.  The enemy is reality itself, and the only way to keep it at bay is to intimidate those who might carelessly start to talk about it.  Krugman's been doing it for years, and he's not about to shut up.  Now Arianna Huffington has a new book coming out, and she's using her formidable website to draw attention to it: Third World America: Chronicling the Assault on America's Middle Class...and the Solutions.

In the Barack Obama/Robert Gibbs/Joke Line world, Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe are "Great Americans" precisely because they helped gut around $100 billion of stimulus funds that would have helped state and local governments stay afloat.  It was called "buy-partisanship"

But in the Paul Krugman/Arriana Huffington/(and, increasingly) Rachel Maddow world, not so much.  In that world--the real word--what matters is the real world, not the make-believe milkmaid & shepard fantasies of Versailles.

And that is the enemy that Gibbs was lashing out against.

You don't get a whole lot of credit for passing the largest undersized stimulus program that failed to halt the collapse of American civilization.  Even Gibbs knows that.  Heck, even Obama does.


p.s.

Democracy Now! this morning had a segment, "As Gibbs Attacks Progressive Critics, ACLU Says Obama White House Enshrining Bush-Era Policies":

As White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs attacks progressives for comparing President Obama's polices to George W. Bush's, we look at a new ACLU report on how the Obama administration is permanently enshrining into law many of President Bush's most controversial policies. The report, "Establishing a New Normal," warns: "There is a very real danger that the Obama administration will enshrine permanently within the law policies and practices that were widely considered extreme and unlawful during the Bush administration."

So, in one sense, at least, worse than the Bush Administration.

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I haven't watched MSNBC in a while (0.00 / 0)
but the last time I did, Maddow and Olbermann seemed to me in cheerleader mode (around the time of the hcr crap).  Granted, I just watched snippets.  Are they becoming disillusioned?  More honest?  

You're Overgeneralizing (4.00 / 1)
While they're both well to the right of me, they do tend to have significantly more nuance in their coverage than most.  So they can cheer one thing while criticizing another.  Or even cheer one thing for one reason while criticizing it for another.  They're doing this now, and they were doing it then.

But IMHO, there really is a significant difference between now and then.  By the end of the HCR fight, a dynamic had built up which was tending in a more militant, more progressive direction.  Of course, Obama quickly undercut that with a couple of moves--most notably, his bold declaration in support of off-shore oil drilling.  And we all know what happened after that.

So, it's not really much of a mystery to me, particularly since Maddow followed the BP oil spill quite critically, and Keith wasn't too far behind.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I was asking (0.00 / 0)
not attempting to judge.  And I thought I qualified my impressions as being not wholly informed since I just watched bits and pieces.

Thanks for responding.


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My take on Rachel (4.00 / 1)
is that at times she operates in a "There are two sides" mode and in attacking the Right/Republican nonsense she also becomes a cheerleader for Obama, sometimes uncritically as when she totally forgot the Great Society ever happened.

Other times she operates in the "There are at least three sides" mode and is critical of the Democrats and Obama.  But even when she does that she still tries to do it in the "I'm your friend who can tell you that dress makes you look bad" style rather than the "I'm your enemy who makes terrible remarks about you all the time" style.

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Good post. (4.00 / 1)
When do we reach the point in which the only tactic is to create a left third party?  Without the fear of losing voters to th left, it seems that there always will be only this dynamic.  I'm not there yet, but the fantasy of reclaiming the Dem Party seems farther and farther away.

The gibbs remarks are a true sign of weakness.  They are angry because people on the left fail to see how great the WH has been.  But the WH took a neo-liberal road from the beginning.  The reality is that progressives have been very accomidating to this WH, especially when one considers the apparent failure of the neo-liberal economic policies that now is apparent.  

The new normal is over 10% real unemplyment and they are out of answers.

It was a failure to see the systemic issues at the begining.  Summers, Rahm, et all.

I'm sure Gibbs reflects that bunker mindset they have.  They did so much and why aren't they being praised.  


"When do we reach the point in which the only tactic is to create a left third party?" (4.00 / 1)
I am like others, wary of the third party alternative...not because it is in any way wrong (persoanlly I expect never again to vote Democratic), but only because we have seen so many faltering efforts in this direction. I of course would support moves in this direction.

Much shorter term, organized protests by the left against Obama wherever he speaks will capture a great deal of attention and will surely get us a very well-defined response. The media woulde love it as you can imagine.


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Like I said, I'm not there yet. (0.00 / 0)
I don't think this will achieve anything:

Much shorter term, organized protests by the left against Obama wherever he speaks will capture a great deal of attention and will surely get us a very well-defined response.

In the end, they always will take the left for granted.  Hell, they'd probably pay you for this:

Much shorter term, organized protests by the left against Obama wherever he speaks will capture a great deal of attention and will surely get us a very well-defined response.

Triangulation.

in the end, we either elect real progressives or force them to fight for our votes.  

I think the decision is a few years off, but I could be wrong.


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Hell, they'd probably pay you for this. (0.00 / 0)
and I was willing to do it for free.

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The problem with creating a "left third party" (4.00 / 4)
is that there are already too many of them.  Creating another one just means more splintering of the Left.

The solution is to stop focusing on elections and start focusing on movement building to fight for policies.  

Check out Winner-Take-All Politics a paper by Hacker and Pierson that Paul has been promoting.  It makes a good case that the real struggle isn't who gets elected but what organizations have the power to affect policy making.

This focus away from electoral politics to policy politics has restored my hope after a lot of despair and cynicism began to dominate me.  Thanks, Paul.

Educate, Agitate, Organize, Mobilize, Act!


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A Lou Dobbs for President campaign (4.00 / 2)
would draw powerfully on working class resentments, and his willingness to talk about trade policy - unlike his conspicuous racism - actually fills a gaping hole in our public debate.  Dobbs's ability to undermine the Democratic ticket in the midwest would force Obama to at least address his neoliberal commitments in a critical way, and by extension, empower pro-union, pro-manufacturing liberals in Congress.  

In the longer term, the way to think about the collapse of the American middle class is in terms of movement rather than party building. Politicians, especially the leaders of major parties at the highest level, have a tremendous incentive to avoid contentious issues. Movements force parties to take action at their own peril, and sometimes this results in the creation of third parties.  These parties may be temporary - "once they have stung, they die" - but they permanently alter the nature of party alignment and sometimes radically change the national political agenda.

But third parties are the product of movements; movements aren't the outcome of party building.      


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Disagree on Dobbs. (0.00 / 0)
Agree on movements.

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Who else among the prospective candidates (4.00 / 1)
will put trade policy at the center of their campaign? I find him repulsive, but he can be made to serve a legitimate purpose.  

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We have to be careful about "using" repulsive figures (4.00 / 1)
because sometimes they take over and do incredible damage to the marginalized groups they like to demonize.  ::shudder::

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One thing's for damn sure (4.00 / 1)
if we're going to talk about trade and protecting American jobs, we need to take on the difficult task of thinking of ways to define American nationalism in populist terms that don't rely on dividing people according to social groups constructed along lines of race, gender, religion and sexuality.  

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Beggars can't be choosers (0.00 / 0)
I think you're going to have to be willing to turn a blind eye towards possibly racist nativists in order to get things off the ground.  Sure, you try to boot out the more blatant bigots, but you're never going to get anywhere if you spend all your time trying to police the movement and purge undesirables.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

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No haters need apply. (4.00 / 5)
There are plenty of normals in America to work with.

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This isn't about "purges" (0.00 / 0)
Any broad American political movement - like the Obama for President campaign for example - will draw some support from racists.

I'm thinking of self-conscious messaging as a part of movement building.  There are leaders from various social groups who would respond to a working class message.  They should be included and foregrounded.  


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We're not at the point where that is option (0.00 / 0)
Right now, a national left-wing third party seems as destined as Ted Stevens to crash and burn.  When we see more successful primary challenges by the left wing of the Democratic Party, when we get elected Democrats who openly talk about leaving the party because it is too conservative, then there creating a left third party is a viable tactic.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

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possibly slightly off-topic, (4.00 / 3)
and so I apologize in advance. But I found the take by Jerome Armstrong at MYDD insightful. Even though I copied it on a Quick Hit, I am giving it again here if people missed it:

http://mydd.com/2010/8/12/time...

"Robert Gibbs is not an uncommon operative. He's proved himself a professional laggard at understanding new media over the years. After failing at his job to stop Dean in 2004 while John Kerry's communications director, he failed upward to become the spokesperson for the Gephardt-led Torricelli-financed infamous hit-job Osama bin Laden ad that cycle. This is where Gibbs has made his expertise plain-- bashing the Democratic partisan progressive.

Obama liked what he saw. So for the past 6 years, Gibbs has been the voice of Obama. There's little doubt they get along great in private, and anyone who thinks that Gibbs is voicing something that Obama himself doesn't also voice has loyalty that's beyond mere stupidity.

Gibbs has been prepped for a while now to become a more "senior adviser" to Obama. It's well-known that he's slated become the cheif strategist once Axelrod leaves the WH, and for the '12 re-election. Does this endanger that role? Put another way, has there been a peep of his being in dis-conjunct with Obama? Beltway mentality, Brooks & Gergen, without a doubt, have told Obama that Gibbs is correct.

If anything, this will likely turn out to be part of the "new reality" tapestry after the post-'10 blowout of the Democrats by the Republicans. The fault of the '10 losses will be the professional left.

There's actually some truth to that reality. The combined strategy of tarring Tea Partiers and beating the straw out of Bush again has been in play for over a year now, as the main oppositional message of attack, with no tangible results (I would argue its actually empowered conservatives and enlarged their megaphones). Remember when Rush Limbaugh was going to be made the face of the Republican Party? Yea, right.

So for all the professional cable blowhards that has been participating in that strategy, then yea, own up. Its time to fail upward, right alongside Gibbs.

That said, the failure of this tar & stick attack has to be understood within the failure of the Democratic trifecta. A party in power, or any politican, can only run effectively fore re-election on their record. Anything else admits failure at the onset, and expects the voter to embrace a lesser argument than achievement.

Democrats had another route. They should have said no to the bank bailouts; the stimulus should have been less about funding status quo and more about innovation; healthcare reform should not have turned out to be a mandate of buying corporate insurance; pulling out of Iraq should not have become the bait to switch on the the surge in Afghanistan.

You can argue the opposite, and many Democrats did as these happened. Certainly Robert Gibbs falls in that camp. In both practice and politics, the facts now show those people were wrong. There's not a record of accomplishment to run on.

So now, in the face of that failure, and the impending '10 losses, bozo the spokesman blames the ones that argued to take the other route-- for not cheerleading their failure enough."


what? (4.00 / 1)
"The combined strategy of tarring Tea Partiers and beating the straw out of Bush again has been in play for over a year now"

On what planet?


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There's Some Truth In This (4.00 / 1)
But it also over-generalizes in places.

The real problem, IMHO, is what I wrote about earlier from the Hacker/Pierson paper.  It goes a lot deeper and farther back than Jerome would have us look.

This should have been a break-point.  And Obama was THE best positioned person to sell himself to the masses as the embodiment of that break-point, and then to deliver more of the same than anyone could imagine.

But it's pretty hard to see how Clinton would have been dramatically better.  They simply share far too much in the way of hegemonic insfrastructure roots.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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What if the '10 losses don't happen? (4.00 / 1)
What if they are not a foregone conclusion?

What if this strategy of running against the Tea Party works?  Works being defined as "holding House and Senate albeit with reduced margins."  It just might happen with all the nut jobs the GOP is coming up with, especially if the White House get backs to actually campaigning (as they seemed to be doing earlier in the week) instead of beating up the base.  It's plague on both houses time and anything can happen.  GOP is not gaining in polls even as Dems lose.

Of course, another possibility is that Obama WANTS the Dems to lose at least one house of Congress.  I'm not sure I buy it but if it's true why would we want to go along with him and give him what he wants?

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


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Well, (4.00 / 3)
I didn't have time to get into that before, so I'm glad you asked.

IMHO, the main problem with that mindset that Jerome critiques is not that it's doomed (I don't necessarily think it is), but that it provides an easy out, a way to not think about the hard stuff.  And Obama was elected to think about the hard stuff.  He even promised to.

But, more importantly, whoever was elected after Bush would have been elected to think about the hard stuff.  That's because BushCo screwed up so incredibly bad.

But Obama came out of the establishment hippy-bashing mindset, as well as all the other Versailles garbage.  And the totality of it all completely predisposed him toward compromising with the system in the name of changing it, and brushing off as mere annoyances anyone who happened to point out that he was utterly abandoning (a) his campaign promises and (b) any chance of actually solving the problems that our country faces.

The irony is that if Obama actually had kept to his promises and fought like the dickens for what he did promise, then this strategy of blaming the Tea Partiers & GOP obstructionism would be far more politically effective--not least of all because it would have some integrity and truth behind it.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Again, we're arguing (discussing) at cross purposes (0.00 / 0)
You're assessing and I'm strategizing.  

Much analysis seems to be being made (in this case more by vlaszlo than you) that assumes that the Democrats must lose the Congress this fall.  I was merely trying to point out that that is not necessarily the case.  

What if Dems hold Congress after following this Obama/DLC strategy?  On the one hand it's bad because they're more empowered than before.  On the other hand, at least we don't have to fight off a bunch of Tea Party crap and the Tea Party will have been marginalized.  We can start from Square 2 instead of Square 1.

Now if Obama really doesn't want a Democratic Congress, maybe giving him his non-wish, a Democratic Congress that got elected in spite of rather than because of him, could turn out to be a good scenario for us.  Of course they'll spin it the other way.


sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


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More empowered? (4.00 / 1)
It's hard to see where Obama is more empowered when he "only" loses 30 to 35 House seats and 7 Senate seats and remains barely in control.  That's a beating.  The worst losses will be on the side of the Blue Dogs.  Bye bye Blanche Lincoln.  Bye bye Evan Bayh.  Bye bye Bennet.  Bye bye Arlen Specter. If the 60 vote Senate stays, Obama would have to dredge up 8 GOPers.  Either nothing passes or even more Republican legislation.

Hippocrates motto holds, "First do no harm."

The best move for Congress is to go its own way.  Sometimes that will be with Obama.  Sometimes it will be more lefty.  Second, do some good.


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I'm not thrilled with Maddow and Olberman (0.00 / 0)
Sure, better than blow-dried conservatives and mindless Village shills, but mainly cheerleaders.

It is Ed Schultz, Dylan Ratigan and Ratigan's recent guest host Cenk Uygur that the White House has to worry about.


Don't confuse Maddow with Olberman (4.00 / 6)
Maddow talks about politics by asking questions that draw on objective information to evaluate states of affairs in the real world.  Olberman holds liberal commitments, but, like his favorite nemesis Bill O'Reilly, expresses them in terms of raw emotion. Rarely does Olberman do anything remotely analytical.

Maddow's recent trip to Afghanistan was a major coup. She knew she was being used, went over and saw what the military permitted her to see, came back and excoriated the administration by making data-rich arguments against their policy commitments. She's not Amy Goodman, who I happen to prefer, but she's not trying to be her, nor should she.


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Good Rachel vs Bad Rachel (4.00 / 1)
When she's good she's very very good but when she's bad it's like fingernails on the chalkboard.

Afghanistan = good Rachel
Oil spill geekery = good Rachel
Making fun of tea partiers/Michael Steele = horrid Rachel
"too much pop culture with my good friend Kent Jones" = horrid Rachel

I like Ed Schultz better than either although Ed sometimes get flustered and doesn't nail the response to the conservatives he brings on.  He loses fights he should win.  Not a great thinker on his feet.  But the emotion is great.

He will accept Obama at times, which is fine.  That makes the times he doesn't more powerful.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


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You're talking more about the format than Maddow herself (4.00 / 2)
This is why I mentioned Amy Goodman as a personal favorite. I don't like the infotainment format either, but if it's a conspicuous way that people engage with politics, I'm glad Maddow is a part of it.  

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Nothing against Amy Goodman but I was talking about Maddow (4.00 / 1)
I think the whole "make fun of the Tea Partiers" shtick feeds right into the "liberal elitist" trap, which makes Maddow less effective than she might otherwise be.  Making fun of the rubes soothes Maddow's demographic audience but it just increases tribalism and turns off anyone from outside the demographic who might otherwise happen to find her good stuff compelling.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

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I like Kent (4.00 / 2)
and he was with Rachel back in the old radio days.  There's nothing wrong with a little fun IMO.

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I used to like Ed Shultz too (0.00 / 0)
but more and more he seems to me to be working for the White House.

On the radio these days the best Ed shows are when his friend Nor-Man Gold-Man guest hosts.

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Beg To Differ (4.00 / 4)
It's a media system.  Although I certainly like Ed's unvarnished populism, he's not likely to have much impact on the rest of the Versailles media.  And I'm pretty sure he's fine with that.  They're not the people he cares about, and God bless him for that.

But Maddow goes out of her way to try to do things right--inviting folks on she disagrees with, and being respectful, without sacrificing being tough. Not as tough as I would prefer, maybe, but still clearly showing how the pretend ideal could be actually realized.

And I think that at least potentially creates much more of a systemic impact than you realize.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Reality is a bitch. (4.00 / 6)
But I'd rather fight beside her than against her. She always wins in the end.

Montani semper liberi

remember this? (4.00 / 4)
"That's not the way the world really works anymore," the Bush aide told the journalist. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to study what we do."

This administration seems to have the same attitude, though they would no doubt never express it as bluntly as Bush's people.

Not surprising, though. No one who is not massively deluded will be allowed anywhere near the levers of power. Anyone sane would run away screaming from what the oligarchy requires them to do.

What they need are obedient dupes, who, for reasons of their own, are willing to go along.

It could be "Jesus tells me what to do" (Bush), or "If I do what these rich and important people tell me to do, I will finally find acceptance" (Obama). What those reasons are doesn't really matter, as long as the person does what they want him to do.


Reality…what a concept… (0.00 / 0)
Geez, I had completely forgotten that one, so thanx. It's pretty chilling in the context of the Bush administration.

That said, I think the left has to start being the reality instead of chasing it. At the current juncture it means not deserting the Dem party in a midterm where so much is at stake. After that, though, another kind of agency has to kick in among progressives, one that's not unlike what Bush illuminated in that quote. I am not against working toward making a Presidential primary challenge a viable option in 2012. Right now, it just seems like an idle threat, but...

"This ain't for the underground. This here is for the sun." -Saul Williams


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