Upward and downward counterfactuals: Obama campaign vs. Obama presidency

by: Paul Rosenberg

Thu Dec 23, 2010 at 16:30


Earlier today,  jeffweinberg wrote a brilliant comment in the comment thread to my diary, "Obama: With sufficiently diminished expecations, EVERYTHING looks HUGE!"  Here's what he wrote:

Downward counterfactuals

I look at the perceptions of President Obama and his "accomplishments" in terms of upward and downward counterfactuals, in addition to, as Paul says, "what do you get in the end?"

Upward counterfactuals look at "how much better it would have been if..."-these reduce satisfaction with reality but help individuals prepare for better performance in the future. The "sanctimonious purists" with whom the President parts company are engaging in upward counterfactuals-and rightly so.

Downward counterfactuals look at "how much worse it would have been if..."-and engender a sense of complacency and satisfaction; to me, they can be rationalizations for "settling" or, worse, defeatist.
The entire line from the Obama administration and its most ardent supporters has been, among other things, one long exercise in downward counterfactualism-"it would have been even worse if we had not gotten x," x being a mere fraction of or some inferior alternative to what was sought (as occurred in health care "reform," extension of unemployment benefits), not even what might be considered "ideal," or something no one could have or should have opposed (as in the START treaty, food safety, health care for 9/11 responders). These downward counterfactuals act as rationalizations for, on the one hand, as Paul says, the slow motion dismantling of the New Deal (as well as the wholesale undermining of liberal programs and philosophy, generally) and, on the other, as justifications for corporate-driven policy.

One thing that struck me about this comment is how it cut to the heart of what I think is wrong with the Obama presidency and how it contradicts his campaign.  It's a problem even deeper than ideology, because it goes to where the differences in ideology come from.  Put simply, Obama's campaign was one long exercise in upward counterfactual "thinking"--if, indeed, one could even call it "thinking".  It was more like imagining: imagine that things will be dramatically better, because we all know that they can.  And each of you can help by imagining that in your own way, and then pitching in....

There were limits to this, clearly.  And I pointed them out at the time.  There wasn't really a whole lot of content.  But there was, at least, this upward counterfactual logic which just by its form embodied a promise.

But Obama's entire presidency has been entirely the reverse.  It's been about downward counterfactuals. It's been about settling. "Well, this isn't exactly what you want, but imagine how much worse it will be if we don't at least do this."  That has been the logic of virtually everything the Obama Administration has done. And not just the finished legislation, but of all the pre-compromising, of the exclusion of idealistic voices--or even just long-suffering, hard-working, scientifically informed and/or militant ones.

Now, I'm very much a wonkish sort who's into how things work.  And it's simply a fact that neo-liberalism is not how things work.  So I tend to look at what Obama does and say, "Well, that's just more screwed up neo-liberal BS."  And that's true.  But it's also true that neo-liberalism means settling.  It is, at it's very essence, a philosophy of settling. "Well, yes, you want X, Y and Z," the neo-liberal says. "And so do we.  So does everyone.  But you can't just go ahead and DO it the way you want to.  You have to adapt.  You have to use more conservative means.  But don't worry, it's still for progressive ends."  And this argument, by its very essential logic is a form of downward counterfactual thinking: If you don't do this.... It's Tony Blair accepting Margaret Thatcher's most famous dictum: "There is no alternative."  Only he says, you can still make it work for progressive ends.  But then it doesn't actually work out, and the process of downward adjustment continues, grows deeper, based on the argument, "Well, if not, imagine how much worse...."

And throughout all of this what is always being lost, piece by piece, bit by bit is the wild-eyed exuberance of limitless hope and aspiration.  What's being lost is vision. What's being lost is the mindset of upward counterfactuals.

That's the bottom-line difference between how Obama campaigned and how he has governed.

Paul Rosenberg :: Upward and downward counterfactuals: Obama campaign vs. Obama presidency

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So true (0.00 / 0)
This is hitting the nail right on the head.  "I have to cut Social Security, or Republicans will cut it more."  And so on.  Hey, loser, how about FIGHTING the Republicans for once?

My only quibble:  "But don't worry, it's still for progressive ends."  I don't think that Reagan-admiring, FDR-slamming, Larry Summers-rehashing Obama really wants progressive ends.  But if I'm wrong this is still an excellent point, Paul.


Well, (4.00 / 1)
"It's still for progressive ends" is how Third Way proponents describe it themselves.  Ed Kilgore, for example, in a diary that I've referenced on a number of occasions.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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This is why (0.00 / 0)
I long ago refused to call myself a "progressive."  I'm an old-fashioned liberal, dammit, and proud of it.  And if anyone wants to call me "the left of the left" or even a DFH, then so be it- I am.   ;-)

"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
Benjamin Franklin


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My sign off for this blog agrees with that (0.00 / 0)
"Incrementalism isn't a different path to the same place, it could be a different path to a different place"

Matt Stoller wrote it.  So it's old home week.

But it is very true.  You really can't use rihgt wing means to achieve liberal ends.  

"Incrementalism isn't a different path to the same place, it could be a different path to a different place"
Stoller


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"But don't worry, it's still for progressive ends." (4.00 / 2)
Ya, this post warrants a lot more discussion, methinks. Jeff's comment struck me as a brilliant observation that says a great deal in few words.

While I need to think about this more, I'm wondering about part of your conclusion and it goes to my own bias here, so I'll try to tread softly. In terms of the counterfactuals, I see them working rather differently for the OutGroups than the InGroups. For the OutGroups, that's a pretty good way of approximating the two sides of the larger public debate and why the Democratic Base is irreparably split. For the InGroups, especially the members of the InnerParty at the White House, I see the DWCF more as a method of propaganda and thusly manipulation.

In other words, I'm not sure it's necessarily true the thinking of the InnerParty is genuinely reflected in their outward "reasoning." The reason I'm thinking that right now is you make a couple points about Neo-Liberalism or Neo-Liberal thinking that I have real doubts about.

First up, this idea that Neo-Liberalism isn't the way things work. This may or may not be true depending on which interests we're talking about. But if we're talking about the clearly chosen interests of the InnerParty members, I think it's safe to say Neo-Liberalism works brilliantly. After all, they're all seeing 15-20% increases in their net worth per annum, so I seriously doubt they're open to the idea "it doesn't work." Since the goal of Neo-Liberalism is to hollow out the state, privatize the commons, destroy democracy and create an authoritarian corporate state, I'd say it's working brilliantly, wouldn't you?

Of course, if we flip that on it's head and judge it in terms of the Greater Good, it's a total (bleep)ing failure. But that's OUR problem, not theirs, right?

Next up, this notion of "settling." Personally, I don't think they settle all that much. They almost always seem to get what they really want. They never wanted the Public Option, so that went easily. Sure, they had to do a tapdance using Downward CF, but the fact is millions of people actually bought that bullshit hook, line and sinker. They wanted a corporatist deal they knew would do real damage to millions of Americans and that's precisely what they got.

With respect to FinReg, same thing: they got exactly what they wanted. The only settling they had to do on that was actually put up with Elizabeth Warren's presence when they clearly didn't want to and still don't.

So if their agenda is at odds with those that put them in power, it makes perfect sense to use the Downward CF as a central part of their Comm Strategy, since it seems likely a large portion of the Dem base are hard-wired to accept it.

Personally, I just  think they're better at manipulating public opinion than most Americans are at sussing out that manipulation.

Going forward though, I'm beginning to wonder at what point will that train of ever diminishing expectations will stop working. Assuming it ever does stop working.

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates


We're Talking Different Levels Of Analysis (4.00 / 1)
I've argued elsewhere that neo-liberals claim to be all about "market solutions" but are actually empowering oligarchies.  What you're writing about here has to do with how that contradiction plays out in the internal power dynamics, mostly among interest group representatives, mostly behind-the-scenes political players.

The diary is more about how things are rationalized on the ideological side of things and then communicated on the political side.  The more out-in-the-open operatives.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Thanks, Paul! (4.00 / 3)
You made my day! I'm very flattered and pleased that you highlighted that comment. And thanks also for your nice words, Emocrat. I think the feeling of enormous disappointment and sense of betrayal with the Obama administration lies as much in this shift from "Yes, we can!" to "Well, no, we really can't" as in its actual actions.

I might differ with your characterization, Paul, on one point: "it goes to where the differences in ideology come from." There's a real question for me as to how much of what's gone in in the Obama administration is prospectively driven by downward counterfactual thinking (as I said in another comment, "Let's go for the lowest hanging fruit") and how much is retroactively framed in a cynical ploy to quell dissatisfaction and divert attention away from what's gone on before. When, for example, President Obama says, on health care reform, we got "90% of what we wanted," in itself a dubious claim, he elides over how he secretly bargained away what many viewed as a key component to the reform while publicly arguing for it.

I'd guess it says something psychological about which strategy-downward or upward counterfactual-one employs on a general basis. The important part is that it's not a "you-say-to-MAY-to-I-say-to-MAH-to" distinction-there are important and different behavioral consequences to each strategy: upward counterfactuals tend to generate learning and action; downward counterfactuals tend to produce satisfaction but, more or less, stop behavior.

I do want to mention that downward counterfactuals do play a useful role and are appropriate sometimes: bronze medal winners in the Olympics are happier than [PDF] silver medal winners-they look downward at the fourth- and fifth-place winners (and beyond) and say, "Well, at least I got a medal"; silver medal winners look upward at the first-place winner and think about how narrowly they missed the gold. In therapy or other situations where you're dealing with extremely depressed people who are about to throw themselves off a bridge or something, it might be appropriate or even necessary to reframe the current situation by saying "Well, things aren't so bad" and point to how it's better than some alternative. I'd surmise these counterfactuals even play a part in the national psyche-there's a reason why China in 2008 topped the list of countries where the people were happy with the direction of the country-and the US was fifth from the bottom; I'd guess that the Chinese are looking downward to see how far they've risen and people in the US...well, they have a different perspective. So downward counterfactuals can fit the circumstances . But as a leadership strategy, especially when that leadership was premised, as Obama's was, on expanding possibilities-on how much better things could be? Not so much.


Well said. (0.00 / 0)
This bit strikes at least in part to what I was driving at:

There's a real question for me as to how much of what's gone in in the Obama administration is prospectively driven by downward counterfactual thinking (as I said in another comment, "Let's go for the lowest hanging fruit") and how much is retroactively framed in a cynical ploy to quell dissatisfaction and divert attention away from what's gone on before.

(EmPHAsis mine)

My bias tends to steer me towards this interpretation as well. It's not my cynicism as much as my appreciation of the cynicism of communications strategists (I admit, using the word "strategist" with regards to these people is giving them too much credit... they're really just tacticians). It seems extremely useful to me. It's an "easy out," as it were. From this standpoint, both of those stated positions seem quite necessary. No matter what, you lower people's expectations, so they'll largely STFU when the inevitable upset comes around. That really does seem to be the overarching goal in their Comm "Strategy."

I also agree that as leadership strategy, it is doomed to fail. You can't lead people, as in creating consensus, by telling them, "It could've been a lot worse." You can tread water that way, but you're not going anywhere but where you are with this level of thought or messaging. This could just be establishment incompetence, since there's a real case to be made on hackish grounds. It could also be much more cynical than that. I suspect it's some of both.

That said, Paul's response to my comment was right on. The thing here is, methinks, to be more clear about some of these distinctions. At least in my case. ;^)

We don't have to know all the facts about all this. But we do have to be able to make the right distinctions. In this sense, I think your contribution to this conversation is rather significant, as it provides more or better focus.

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates


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Clarification (4.00 / 1)
First off, I want to concur with your point that downward counterfactual thinking isn't inherently bad.  It does keep people from jumping off bridges sometimes, and that's undoubtedly a Good Thing.

But I also want to clarify that I think neo-liberalism in general represents a downward counterfactual mentality, as does libertarianism, another closely-related form of free-market ideology.  The liberal tradition is centered around the evolving concept of individual autonomy.  As such, it ia concerned both with removing constraints that hold individuals back, but also with developing capacities that move individuals foreward. The former can be said to be informed by downward counterfactual thinking, the later by upward counterfactual thinking. Both libertarians and neo-liberals, however, are obsessively fixated only on the downward counterfactual side.  They quite literally can't even see what they're missing.

And this helps enormously to explain Obama's profound lack of vision, as well as his lack of comprehension at the lack of vision his erstwhile followers now see in him.

Which is why, in the end, I pretty much agree with everything you have to say.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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All the fruit there is to get (4.00 / 1)
I agree with your comments about libertarianism and, in particular, neo-liberalism.

I'd like to clarify something also: I agree with the issues of (1) the difference in the Obama campaign and Obama governance and (2) the leadership issue ("It could be worse" is hardly inspiring) as they relate to the counterfactuals.

But I think the real issue is: when President Obama says "We got x% of what we wanted" or that some deal is "the best we can get", it is simply not credible that that is the reasonable upward bound of what we could get.

That's what all the chatter about whether Obama is weak | evil | inexperienced | conservative is about-it's not just the pre-compromising and acquiescing and settling, it's that, for this president, at least in his rhetoric, the lowest hanging fruit is all the fruit there is to get (besides the windfall, of course)-in Obama's world, he can't envision even a stepladder and we're told not to. His soaring, Rorshach-like campaign rhetoric built up expectations, to be sure, but, at the end of the day, for whatever reason, people believe-perhaps they know-that a Democratic president in Obama's position could be accomplishing far more. Sure, things could be worse but they definitely could be better. Meanwhile, we're not only seeing opportunity being squandered, we're being told to believe it doesn't exist.


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Very True (0.00 / 0)
There is an enormous disconnect between the promise and the performance, and this focus:

But I think the real issue is: when President Obama says "We got x% of what we wanted" or that some deal is "the best we can get", it is simply not credible that that is the reasonable upward bound of what we could get.

takes us right in for the close-up, Mr. DeMille.

See, also, the diary I just posted, and the one to come after that.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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You earned your pay on this one! (0.00 / 0)
Happy holidays.

For the wheel's still in spin And there's no tellin' who That it's namin'. -- Dylan

Good Post (0.00 / 0)
Very good observations on Jeff's part and a good post.

Unfortunately, I've come to the conclusion that Obama's governing philosophy is an absolute disaster.  I would like to have the option to vote third party in 2012 and will work hard to make that happen, but I will vote Republican if I have no other choice.  I refuse to vote for Obama.


It's really the same thing as the half empty vs half full glass thing. (4.00 / 1)
I've said for at least 25 years that the identification of the half empty perspective with pessimism and the half full one with optimism is off the mark.

Those who focus on the half full part are the downward counterfactuals and by that focus are primed to be resistant to further change as they want to protect the half full.  In truth they are the pessimists because they fear that any further change to the status of the glass is going to mess up what they've already gotten.  They actually expect that tinkering with the glass will cause problems.  They intentionally refuse to think about what the empty part of the glass means.

The phrase, "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" is precisely playing to that fear that trying to add more to the glass, that is focusing on the empty part, will threaten everything.

I see this attitude all the time in the folk who are so supportive of Obama.  They constantly list all the good stuff he's done.  They maximize the benefits of the health care act, the financial reform and the tax compromise.  They become angry when someone points out how little positive change there is actually is in these.  They can't stand looking at the half empty part; they can't handle possibility.  They start spouting stuff about being whiners or wanting to give power back to GOP.

I think this might be a psychological divide just like the authoritarian vs. anti-authoritarian one.  But being primarily a situationist instead of a dispositionist, what I'm wondering is what is the ecology of this divide.

Educate, Agitate, Organize, Mobilize, Act!


I Understand What You're Saying (4.00 / 1)
and I have to applaud your insight and tenacity in seeing and holding onto this for 25 years. But I don't fully agree re glass half empty/half full.  You're right to question the seemingly straight-forward logic, but wrong to simply assert the opposite. I see it more like ying/yang.  The straightforward "half-full"="optimist" formulation isn't right, but it isn't wrong either, per se. It's just incomplete, because the opposite implication--which you sketch out--is also there.

So, I think what you really want to be saying here is that the upward counterfactual/downward counterfactual framework provides a more systematic explanation for the flawed, incomplete interpretation of the glass half empty/half full expression.

As for "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good", I think that every tenth person who says that ought to be shot.  It's not a perfect solution, but...

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Paul, As a student of Obama's (4.00 / 1)
character and psychology, I think you would find Christopher Lydon's interview with Yale English professor David Bromwich extremely interesting.

http://www.radioopensource.org...

In his quiet and reasoned way, Bromwich offers the most devastating critique I have ever heard.


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