Senate Forecast 9/5: 8 Is Enough--And Within Reach

by: Chris Bowers

Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 19:30


Current Projection: Democratic Pickup of 6 seats

Republican Held: Democratic Pickups 6
State Type Democratic Republican Dem Cash Margin Polls
Dem Locks Pickups: 1
Virginia Open Warner Gilmore 4370% D +24.3 3
Dem Lead Pickups: 3
Colorado Open M. Udall Schaffer 140% D +6.8 6
New Hampshire Freshman Shaheen Sununu 42% D +10.0 2
New Mexico Open T. Udall Pearce 542% D +8.0 1
Toss-up Pickups: 2
Alaska Incumbent Begich Stevens 48% D +3.0 1
Minnesota Freshman Franken Coleman 58% R +3.0 3
North Carolina Freshman Hagen Dole 45% Even 5
Rep Lead Pickups: 0
Georgia Freshman Martin Chambliss 1% R +6.0 2
Idaho Open LaRocco Risch 27% R +11.0 1
Kentucky Incumbent Lunsford McConnell 15% R +12.0 1
Maine Incumbent Allen Collins 61% R +15.0 1
Mississippi-B Special Musgrove Wicker 24% R +9.0 1
Oklahoma Incumbent Rice Inohfe 30% R +9.0 1
Oregon Incumbent Merkley Smith 13% R +6.0 1
Texas Freshman Noriega Cornyn 10% R +14.0 1

Republican Held, Uncompetitive Republican Locks (8): Alabama (Sessions), Kansas (Roberts), Mississippi-A (Cochran), Nebraska (Open, Johanns), South Carolina (Graham), Tennessee (Alexander), Wyoming-1 (Barrasso), Wyoming-2 (Enzi)

Democratic Held: Democratic Losses, 0
State Type Democrat Republican Dem Cash Margin Polls
Dem Lead Losses: 0
Louisiana Incumbent Landrieu Kennedy 204% D +17.0 1
New Jersey Incumbent Lautenberg Zimmer 315% D +12.5 2

Democratic Held, Uncompetitive Democratic Locks (10): Arkansas (Pryor), Delaware (Biden), Illinois (Durbin), Iowa (Harkin), Massachusetts (Kerry), Michigan (Levin), Montana (Baucus), Rhode Island (Reed), South Dakota (Johnson), West Virginia (Rockerfeller)

Analysis in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Senate Forecast 9/5: 8 Is Enough--And Within Reach
Lots of movement in the Senate picture over the last two weeks. Oklahoma joins the competitive race chart, something that I wasn't sure would ever happen. Hagen has taken the lead in the last two polls out of North Carolina, even though the 30-day average still shows a dead heat. She now appears poised for victory in the state, which makes eight pickups for Democrats start to seem very realistic:

  1. Virginia. No explanation needed here.
  2. New Mexico. Even though the latest poll showed Udall only up 8%, the NRSC just cancelled their $2.3M ad buy in the state, a sign that they have conceded the seat. I bet the most recent poll was a big outlier. Every other New Mexico poll has shown a massive blowout.
  3. Colorado. While this campaign consistently polls within 10% or less, Mark Udall still leads by 6.8% across six polls, including an internal Republican poll, and also maintains a significant monetary advantage. It would be stunning if Udall did not win this seat.
  4. New Hampshire: While Democratic challenger Jean Shaheen does not hold a monetary advantage here, she does lead by 10% in the polls. Incumbents almost never come back from 10% deficits, so this victory looks very likely.
  5. Alaska: This seat was an apparent lock after Stevens was indicted, but won the Republican primary anyway. The Palin selection seems to have given Stevens new life, but Democrat Mark Begich still leads anyway. If Stevens is still losing, even in this favorable moment for Alaska Republicans, victory still appears likely here.
  6. North Carolina: As I already mentioned, Hagen has moved into the lead here, and now seems poised for victory.
  7. Minnesota: Al Franken is really on a roll now, and the most recent poll out of Minnesota actually shows him ahead. This state is now a toss-up, but the trend is fantastic. Franken has made up a lot of ground quickly, and still has a ton of cash to dump on Coleman.
  8. One more: With seven excellent pickup opportunities already listed, and with no serious Republican opportunities now that Landrieu looks safe in Louisiana, we only need to find one more pickup in order to reach the very important eight seat pickup number (I'll explain why a net of eight is so important below).

    In order to find the eighth, we actually have eight good options to look. My favorite option, and I believe the most likely option, is Oregon. Of the eight options, only Oregon and Kentucky have previously shown Democratic leads this year. If I have to choose between Senator Jeff Merkley and Senator Bruce Lundsford, Merkley is both the far more likely and far preferable choice. Granted, I'd like to see Mitch McConnell lose a lot more than I would like to see Gordon Smith lose, but you can't always get what you want.

So, eight is doable. While some focus on nine (because it will give us 60), and others focus on 10 (because it will give us 60 without Lieberman), I actually am targeting eight. The reason is that eight Senate seats, plus the White House, gives us a long list of legislation, perhaps the most important of which is the Employee Free Choice Act. This is an extremely important instance of "positive feedback loop" legislation, as making it easier to join a union will shift the political infrastructure of America to the left. By targeting one of the five major ideological institutions in this country (employment, media, education, family and religion) with fundamental, progressive, infrastructure change, we help build a long-term, progressive governing majority.

A pickup of eight seats also gives us some interesting and useful organizing opportunities for 2010 and 2012. When only two Republicans / Liebermans are needed to break a Republican filibuster, then it becomes much easier to target Republicans and wayward Democrats who stall progressive legislation. With such a narrow margin, every single Republican / Lieberman / Bush Dog can be held individually responsible for stalling popular, progressive legislation. Thus, coming close to 60 Senate seats, but just missing it, actually provides progressives with more organizing opportunities in 2010 and 2012.

Maybe that second reason is a bit off the wall, or even false, but eight seats are needed to pass the Employee Free Choice Act. That is a hugely important piece of legislation, and it is why I think eight is enough.


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I think Lieberman splits whatever happens (0.00 / 0)
As expected, his Repub colleagues are doing their best to twist his arm.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmsp...

"If they're smart, they'll treat him fairly," added Charles E. Grassley of Iowa.

If they're smart the Dem leadership will push him before he falls.


Lieberman better hope for more than "fair" (0.00 / 0)
"Fair" would not be good for Lieberman.  "Merciful" is the best he can expect.

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I agree mostly (0.00 / 0)
but getting sixty seats will be a huge symbolic victory and put the GOP in complete disarray. If the DSCC pours money into some of the small states (like Oklahoma, Maine, maybe even Idaho) nine or even ten pickups is within reach.

Although personally I think nine pickups would be an awful result, as it would be nearly impossible to dislodge Lieberman then.


Nine seats would be fine (0.00 / 0)
We need Lieberman for a majority right now- but 60 votes doesn't have anything special to do with determining senate leadership its only helpful because it makes it more likely we'll win cloture votes on progressive legislation. But Lieberman was never going to vote for cloture on Iraq/Israel issues ANYWAY and unless he makes a sudden lurch to the right he'll still vote for cloture on most democratic domestic legislation.

We win ONE, just one seat and Lieberman is kicked out of his committee chair. 59+Lieberman is basically fine for our purposes especially if Obama wins and senate foreign affairs votes become irrelevant.  


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Hence the "symbolic" (0.00 / 0)


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Oh wait, never mind (0.00 / 0)
I need to learn to read.

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thanks for the focus on EFCA (4.00 / 2)
Some of us have been harping on this all year. So I'm really glad that you're specifically highlighting it as the reason for an 8 seat target.

Really when people look at this country and then look with envy at other social democracies where things like universal health care and belief in science are the norm, one of the big reasons for the difference is the union density disparity.

Unions give power to the powerless. And when that happens, amazing things in society can happen as well.


It's Oregon, No Doubt (4.00 / 5)
Gordon Smith's new approve-disapprove rating is 38-56: http://www.surveyusa.com/clien...


John McCain lets lobbyists shape his economic policy

Chris ... (0.00 / 0)
I am curious about something .. say we get 8 ... and Obama wins pretty big this year .. say like 53 or 54% .. can't he break someone like Olympia Snowe(or Snarlin' Arlen) by vowing to campaign against her/him in 2010?

Better yet (0.00 / 0)
Get them to switch parties and join the Democrats.

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better yet (4.00 / 3)
make Snowe sec. of transportation

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Nah (0.00 / 0)
too important. The transportation bill will be up in 2009 and we need some major changes that I don't think Snowe would bring.

I'd say Commerce.  

John McCain: Beacuse lobbyists should have more power


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Which major changes? (4.00 / 2)
I think she's a strong supporter of public transit and mass transit like Amtrak.

She also votes for global warming bills so I don't think she'd hold up CAFE increases. If she did, Obama could just fire her. That's the nice thing about a cabinet. It's not a civil service job, it's fire at will.


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Like (4.00 / 1)
a dramatic shift from roads to public transit and trains and stuff like that.

I'm not sure of Snowe's position but I'm not so sure she's that great on them.

One great idea that would make DC pundits hate on Obama but would be brilliant for our Senate makeup.

Ask her to be a important cabinet member, ask her to do something she doesn't want, when she refuses, fire her.

We get Senate seat.  

John McCain: Beacuse lobbyists should have more power


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I think that'd work for any cabinent post (0.00 / 0)
just like Transportation. But it also just happens to be one where I think she'd do what Obama told her to.

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I think Snowe isn't up for re-election until (0.00 / 0)
2012.  And she's ridiculously popular in Maine.  If Mainers won't throw out Collins, they won't throw out Snowe.

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Yeah (0.00 / 0)
our best bet is to put her in the cabinet.

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I was just using her as an example .. (0.00 / 0)
I don't know who else you can peel off on certain votes besides her(yeah .. she's not up again till 2012 .. and it would be dumb to run against her .. she got 60% in 1994 .. and her totals have increased in both elections since .. getting 74% in '06) and Specter who is up for re-election in 2010

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Snarlin' Arlen. (0.00 / 0)
   He is the lead candidate for a party-switch.  Why, you ask?  He used to be a Democrat.  He was the machine's choice for the nominee for mayor of Philadelphia, so he became a Republican.  I think we can all agree that Arlen is the consummate finger-in-the-wind politician.  He stands out for that quality even in the senate.  Still, he'll probably retire in 2010 (despite what he says now).  If he doesn't, Allyson Schwartz can defeat him.

John McCain lets lobbyists shape his economic policy

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What? (0.00 / 0)
Not bullish on the notion of Senator Chris Matthews?

John McCain opposes the GI Bill.

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Did anyone else see the classic Gilmore quote? (4.00 / 2)
Asked if he was expecting any help from the NRSC he said "No. But that's because they don't have any money. They just don't."

Nice spin Jim!  


Well (0.00 / 0)
Specer has shown before that he is willing to sellout (Medicaid cuts) so I'm not so confident that we will get every single vote we got last time, plus Lieberman might not vote yes if we kick him out of the party.

So I think we need to go for at least nine. 7 are clearly in reach, I think Oregon is very winnable too and I think we can also win in Mississippi or Maine if we work hard.

John McCain: Beacuse lobbyists should have more power


the thing about specter though (4.00 / 1)
is that he's the one republican that sought, received, and really really needs that AFL-CIO endorsement. He just ain't gonna win again in PA in 2010 otherwise. Unless he's planning on retiring. In which case, it will go to one of the decent stable of Democratic pols in the state anyway.

PA will go for EFCA within the next two years one way or another.  


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Specter is beatable .. (0.00 / 0)
with a good opponent .. besides .. the CfG will probably try to primary him again like they did in 2004 .. so we'll see .. despite having $$$ .. Specter can be beat .. he always seems to get 2nd rate opponents for some reason

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His coalition has disintegrated. (0.00 / 0)
   Arlen was the only politician in the state who could win on a strange coalition of suburban Republicans and rural wingnuts.  2004 killed that coalition.  The right hates him and will not turnout for him; they view him as a liberal, urban, Jew.  Those suburbanites that were moderate Republicans in 2004 are more likely to be moderate Democrats now.  

John McCain lets lobbyists shape his economic policy

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I know (4.00 / 1)
but there is no way in hell he is surviving another Republican primary without turning hard right.

So he either retires or loses to Pat Toomey.

And we need the EFCA to pass in 09. NOW. We can't risk waiting two more years.

John McCain: Beacuse lobbyists should have more power


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I missed something... (0.00 / 0)
Why, Chris, do you think the Republicans won't filibuster the Employee Free Choice Act? Or is their a sitting Republican already on board?

"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra

sorry... (4.00 / 2)
(apologizing for Chris)...this has been a running conversation for a while now.

Arlen Specter voted for cloture on the EFCA. He owes the AFL-CIO because they endorsed him and actually put boots on the ground for him in 2004. There were actually "Kerry/Specter" signs from union members in 2004. Lieberman is also a supporter and also will have an even tougher time with reelection in 2012 if he votes against it.

So with Specter voting yes along with all the other Democrats (every democrat voted for cloture, even ones like Ben Nelson) that would get us to 60 votes if we won 8 senate seats.


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2 things (0.00 / 0)
You assume we couldnt get a few other Republicans post election.  If Obama wins this thing the amount of political capital he is gonna have will be huge.  Considering both he and Biden are co-sponsors of the Employee Free Choice Act I think that bodes well for their priorities.

Second, dont say EFCA.  It sounds like something put together by a think tank doomed to die a slow death in congress.  The Employee Free Choice Act explains what it is and helps convince people to support it.

"Keep the Faith"


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well I'll put it this way (0.00 / 0)
I'll only say EFCA when I'm on the wonkiest and most progressive blog and I wager that 95% of readers are already in favor of the legislation.

But I agree with your point otherwise.

Also, I'm not sure which other republican would vote for cloture. Collins in Maine is actually making a campaign issue out of Tom Allen supporting it. Those two senators would be the only ones I could think of that might even be close to supporting it.

I highly highly doubt Voinovich would. He needs that chamber of commerce and NFIB money for his run in 2010 against Tim Ryan. Plus he knows Ryan is going to get all the union endorsements in Ohio anyway.

Lincoln Chafee was the only other republican who would have voted for it and he's been replaced by an actual Democrat.  


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Voinovich is another that might become more amenable (4.00 / 1)
Particularly since many people think he will retire rather than run again in 2010.

That's the question .. (0.00 / 0)
is there a good Democrat that would give him a stiff challenge if he didn't straighten up?

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Some buzz surrounding Rep. Tim Ryan I believe (4.00 / 2)


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It's Kay Hagan, not Kay Hagen (4.00 / 2)
H-A-G-A-N

:)


I'd Be Surprised (0.00 / 0)
I'd be shocked if Merkley DIDN'T win the seat in Oregon.

After that? Don't sleep on Jim Martin in Georgia. If they dump enough money to get him on the air and in front of the voters, he's going to take Chambliss to the wall. When he speaks, he oozes humility, competence, and thoughtfulness.  


As opposed to Chambliss... (4.00 / 1)
...who just oozes.

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And (0.00 / 0)
sounds like Foghorn Leghorn.

Seriously.


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I'd hate to be Reid if it's 9 (0.00 / 0)
And I'd hate to be Durbin if it's 10. Reid if 9 because he'll have to deal with the Holy Joe situation every single day, and Joe will absolutely exploit this. And Durbin if 10 because he's the whip and will be in charge of keeping those 60 in line. Um, DLC, anyone?

Of course, such agita will be well worth the extra seats. WELL worth it.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


I don't think so (4.00 / 1)
Except for the useless Mary Landrieu (who helped filibuster the Dems' own energy bill during the past year), all the conservative/BlueDoggy Dems can happily vote 'no' on legislation that's too librul, but won't face any consequences for invoking cloture.

With a Dem Pres and a filibuster-proof Dem majority, 50 votes will git 'er done, so clowns like Evan Bayh and the Arkansas Senators and the Nelsons and Ms. Landrieu can happily vote against good legislation -- but still let it pass.

In this scenario, the Senate becomes more like the House, and majoritarian rule decides.

I actually do think we'll get to 61 (minus Joe equals 60), and we'll see some much needed liberal legislation improve our future prospects.  


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Um... (0.00 / 0)
Even if we get to 61 (which would have to include Joe), that's 39 Repubs + Joe + just one more Dem to filibuster. And we're almost certainly not going to get to 61. Even with 57 or 58 seats, it won't be that hard for Repubs to filibuster. Not as often as they do now, but enough to be royal pains. Which means deals, lots and lots and lots of deals, right, left and center. In a perfect world, Reid would call their bluff and force them to filibuster. But we both know that we don't live in such a world, and Reid will not do that.

Still, 57 or 58 is leagues better than 50. They'll still have to cut deals, but they'll be much better deals. A few earmarks here and there to Collins, Snowe, Lugar, Grassley, and next stop, White House, Health Care Reform Bill of 2009!

And McConnell won't be able to do a damn thing about it, because he won't be in full control of his caucus anymore. If he even wins back his seat.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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