Ed Left: The Cognitive Dissonance of School Reform

by: jeffbinnc

Sun Apr 18, 2010 at 16:01


One of the more important items in this week's education news was a new bill sponsored by Iowa Senator Tom Harkin proposing a $23 billion "bailout" fund for saving tens of thousands of teaching positions that states and school districts will not be able to fund in the coming school year. A WaPo article reported that Education Secretary Arne Duncan stopped just short of endorsing Harkin's bill but said that unless Congress acts, there will be "an education catastrophe" resulting in 100,000 to 300,000 teachers losing their jobs. "It is brutal out there, really scary," Duncan waxed empathetically and took care to note that schools and kids "suffer" when teachers are laid off, class sizes balloon, and summer sessions get canceled.

At the same time Duncan was lamenting the effects of teacher lay-offs on children, his staff was busy on Capitol Hill pushing a "blueprint" for education reform. A key element in the blueprint is that at least 5% of the nation's schools - potentially 10% - that are deemed "lowest performing in state" will be forced to adopt a federally mandated "intervention model." Of the four models prescribed in the blueprint, only one does not involve mass firings of teachers.

As Randi Weingarten, the leader of the American Federation of Teachers, pointed out, adopting Duncan's blueprint will quite likely "cost teachers their jobs."

In another fit of cross-purposeful policy making, Duncan's team is also pushing a National Education Technology Plan (NETP) that urges schools to pursue ambitious learning goals such as teaching students twenty-first century skills, critical thinking, complex problem solving, collaboration, and multimedia communication. The plan also "calls for engaging and empowering learning experiences for all students," where teachers conduct "personalized learning instead of a one-size-fits-all" approach to curriculum and instruction.

While most educators would probably regard NEPT's goals as worthy, they can't help but point out how these goals conflict with the Obama administration's overall blueprint for education. How can a school system that emphasizes high-stakes testing in just two subjects - reading and math - fulfill the curriculum goals of teaching "collaboration and multimedia communication?" How can an approach to schooling that values test data more than any other output at the same time assert that it is "personalizing learning? "As one commenter in the previous link states,

"The focus of the federal and state governments on high-stakes testing is in direct contradiction to creating an environment where humans learn best... Stop attaching funding to only standardized test scores. Then, perhaps schools could begin moving towards creating an environment where 21st-century skills can develop."

So here's the deal: At the same time that our federal government is mustering financial resources to save teachers' jobs, it's also pushing measures to eliminate them. And at the same time that the US Department of Education is urging educators to focus their programs on ambitious learning goals and qualitative learning experiences, it's doing everything it can to undermine those goals by focusing on a narrow curriculum and strict, quantitative measures. This cognitive dissonance that characterizes the Obama administration's approach to education reform isn't anything new.

jeffbinnc :: Ed Left: The Cognitive Dissonance of School Reform
As I have written before on OpenLeft, since the 1980s there has been a Washington Consensus on education that holds the two contradictory concepts that: (1) Schools are the best means of alleviating poverty and achieving equality, and (2) schools consistently fail to resolve the broad social ills of poverty and inequality.

The Obama administration's approach to education reform is just the latest rationalization that attempts to soothe the political psyche of the Washington DC establishment's contradictory framework.

The fact is that schools, alone, are not and will never be a solution to poverty and inequality. In yet another example of this reality, edublog This Week in Education pointed to a report this week about the disappointing results generated by a charter school operated by Stanford University's School of Education and Linda Darling-Hammond, a leading education authority who advised the Obama administration. The school purposefully chose to locate its facility in a chronically disadvantaged neighborhood and take on the challenge of educating poor minority students, many who lack English language efficiency.

Despite the leadership of one of the nation's top education schools and a higher per-pupil-expenditure than any other school in the district, the school persistently ranks in the district's "worst performing" category. While some would say this is another failure chalked up by establishment educators, I'm more inclined to agree with Diane Ravitch:

"Maybe this demonstrates that schools alone cannot solve the very deep problems kids bring to school. You cannot assume that schools alone can raise achievement scores without addressing the issues of poverty, of homelessness and shattered families."

Nevertheless, the Obama administration and Arne Duncan continue to push cognitively dysfunctional education policies despite the fact that there is no evidence that they will achieve results any better than what was achieved by the Bush administration (which was disastrous).

Don't get me wrong. By no means does diagnosing Arne Duncan with cognitive dissonance trivialize the effects of his policies. After all, this is a man who said that Hurricane Katrina was "the best thing that ever happened" to New Orleans public schools. He based that remark on studies like this one (pdf) from the rightwing Reason Foundation that asserts that because New Orleans schools "improved" after they were wiped out by Katrina and allowed to reopen as charters, then the "recipe" for all failing city schools is to close them down, fire the teachers, and allow them to reopen as independent charters.

But cognitive dissonance often leads to confirmation bias where people look for information "that confirms their preconceptions or hypotheses, independently of whether they are true." And this week, a Think Tank Review (pdf) put out by Education and the Public Interest Center confirmed that the work done by the Reason Foundation is total bunk. The Reason study not only fails to "provide readers with any valid, generalizable research supporting the claims of beneficial outcomes" and disregards "large-scale studies that show charter schools do not, on average, improve student achievement." It also ignores that
(a) the New Orleans district was already showing steady improvement before the post-Katrina reforms
(b) other districts in the state not devastated by the hurricane have continued to improve in the post-Katrina era as well
(c) Katrina led to a disproportionate exodus of poor families from the district, where enrollment is less than two-thirds of pre-Katrina levels
(d) post-Katrina resources for the city's public schools have been significantly greater than before the hurricane.

But still, where I see cognitive dissonance, others see something far more sinister. In a QuickHit I posted earlier this week on OpenLeft, I pointed to this diary at the edublog Borderland where Doug Noon includes a transcript of Lois Weiner's remarks at a joint discussion with Diane Ravitch on school reform. Since then, Weiner's remarks have rocketed through the edublogosphere (see here and here). And for good reason.

Weiner makes a strong argument that current school reform policies are a neoliberal plan to destroy public education:

"NCLB, all these policies that Diane just described, are neoliberalism coming home. They are policies that were imposed for the first time under Pinochet - under Pinochet. Next in Argentina. Next in Uruguay. Throughout all of Latin America and Central America.
So let us understand that this is a global project that began 40 years ago, was tested, refined - if you want to use that word - imposed on Africa, Asia, and Latin America by the World Bank. Why? Because developing countries wanted aid. If they wanted aid, they had to undergo economic restructuring AND educational reform."

According to Weiner, the "four pillars" that support this international project are: (a) privatization, (b) fragmentation of oversight and regulation and creation of individual schools, (c) standardized testing, and (d) assault on teachers' unions. In other words, all the essentials being pushed by both Republican and Democratic school "reformists" here in the US.

But whether you see the nation's current school policies as a critical dysfunction or a grand scheme, the conclusion you have to draw is the same. Most grand plans for school reform have failed, and this will continue to be the fate of the current Obama-Duncan construction. What is at most at issue is how extensive will the damage be before the entire enterprise collapses.

A final note before I hand out his week's Duncehat award, in an incredibly valuable QuickHit here on OL, TGeraghty pointed us to a new study that quantifies "the value of public education . . . as an inter-generational entitlement program on a par with Social Security and Medicare." I've yet to thoroughly read the entire study and will have more to say about this topic next week.

Now onto this week's Duncehat award . . .

This Week's Duncehat Award Winner: Mickey Kaus
This week's Duncehat goes to Mickey Kaus, the Slate.com columnist and candidate for the California US Senate, running against Barbara Boxer in the Democratic primary, for his stand against teachers' unions. I use the word "stand" loosely because it's really hard to figure out what Kaus has against teacher's unions other than some vague generalization about them standing in the way of "reform".

If Kaus actually made the effort to read-up on the reform efforts that teacher's unions are calling for, he'd learn that they are all for many of the so-called reforms that Kaus may be referring to, such as "a comprehensive and robust evaluation system," "a fair, expedient process to remove ineffective teachers from the classroom," and many other measures.

What teacher's unions are indeed consistently against is the completely unfair and unproven notion that their certification and pay should be linked exclusively to student test scores. But instead of actually learning something about a subject before shooting his mouth off (try googling "mickey kaus, education" and see if you can come up with anything substantive) Kaus chooses the lazy, stereotypical rhetoric of Versailles-obsessed pundits - both Republican and Democratic - who opt for teacher-bashing rather than actually developing a meaningful policy argument.


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How About A Critical Thinking Test For Politicians, Policy-Makers And Pundits? (4.00 / 6)
I know this is getting repetitious, but... another great job, Jeff!

Personally, I have no doubt that this is the result of a sustained ideological war.  Indeed, that's why the people responsible are constitutionally incapable of even seeing the cognitive dissonance involved.

But maybe, just maybe we could jar them a bit by giving them all critical thinking tests, just to see if they could manage to get it, even momentarily.  Heck, it worked with a few scattered Tea-Baggers this week, confronted with the contradiction between their ideologies and their government checks.  Who'da thunk that?

So, let's line them all up, and let the high stakes testing begin!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


I agree (4.00 / 4)
that there's a "sustained ideological war" on public schools. But you don't have to agree with that to see the stupidity of current policy. So I would hope that even the most dye-in-the-wool Obamabot would at least understand that there's something wrong with what's going on in DC regarding public schools and adopt a more skeptical view of the current policies being proposed and enacted by this administration. That's the only "test" I'm asking readers to "pass" today. And I'm grading it pass/fail. You've passed.

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Customize the curriculum for every kid. (4.00 / 1)
Sure, what the hell.  While every business out there is trying to streamline process and costs, they want another unfunded mandate for the schools to wrestle with on the Titanic.  

There isn't one American value that the last 30 years hasn't torn apart.  A neoliberal hawk is the last thing we needed after Bush.  


They're asking for another four years -- in a just world, they'd get 10 to 20. ~~ Dennis Kucinich  


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Yet another terrific post, Jeff. (4.00 / 2)
In terms of explaining the neo-liberal view on education, I thought this sentence from the QH explains it all perfectly:

"the value of public education . . . as an inter-generational entitlement program on a par with Social Security and Medicare."

Hence the neo-liberal contempt for public education. It's perfectly consistent with their disdain for any social programs at all that don't enhance the bank accounts of the wealthy!

I personally find the debate over education reform to be horribly similar to discussions of economic "reform." There's an amazing amount of bullshit to wade through before one can learn to make the important distinctions. I can't thank you enough for making that a lot easier :^)

Perhaps the public debate really needs to address the fundamental question of what we want education to actually do in our society... and how (or maybe even IF) we want society to benefit from it. Ditto for political economy and our so-called democracy as well... especially since they are all tied together.

I think most Americans are just too easily bamboozled with cute buzzphrases and technocratic BS to have that discussion right now. Given the chance, though, I think a lot of people would go for it. Might clear some things up for people.

Reform is only meaningful if you can clearly explain the goals of that reform. Right now, all I'm hearing from Rahmabama Duncanoid is largely bullshit. They can't even explain what it's all for.

When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

-- Frederic Bastiat, "The Law", 1850


Thanks so much for your compliment. (4.00 / 3)
And I totally agree that there needs to be a public debate on "what we want education to actually do in our society." Problem is, a debate of this sort gets politicians and technocrats like Arne Duncan caught in a very difficult position because of a number of confrontational elements in the US. Just look at the recent calamity in Texas over history textbooks where rightwingers wanted to limit kids' exposure of Thomas Jefferson so they could learn more about Phylis Schlafly [sp?]. In other words, taking on the debate of what education is for means taking on the culture wars head on. What politician wants to do that?

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My point exactly. (4.00 / 2)
You're right about the pols. No question.

But I think the point is to put them all in a corner and make them choose whose side they're on and be clear about it. We know where the righties are. My suspicion is that Arne is pretty much one of those righty culture warriors, but of a different mold. A corporate one, as opposed to klansman one. Their goals, however, are largely the same.

So I don't think it's the pols who need to make this conversation. It's everyone who has to live with those decisions that need it.


When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

-- Frederic Bastiat, "The Law", 1850


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Duncan's "mold" (4.00 / 1)
I have a slightly different take. I think what Arne Duncan argues for is basically devoid of values, except the most pedestrian kind like "being accountable" and "working hard." There's just an extraordinary lack of compassion and understanding in what he continues to propose. Whereas the "klansman" group at least have fire in the belly (although a totally reprehensible and immoral sort of "fire").  

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Right, but those buzzwords are just empty rhetoric. (4.00 / 1)
I should have added that when I say the two molds have the same goals, those goals are essentially about denuding liberal education in order to simply reinforce social norms along deeply bigoted lines. The Red State Yahoos are mostly concerned with keeping the (put in any ethnic minority of poor SES here) in "their place." Arne's is the corporate mold, which seeks to grow the Permanent Underclass for the simple purpose of lowering the standard of living for most people and basically keeping them stupid. The only real substantive difference between these two worldviews is one guy is wearing a "Billy Joe's Auto Parts" t-shirt and the other guy is wearing a Hugo Boss suit. Both still seek to keep people "in their place."

The Obamabots use these empty technocratic terms simply because it's a great way of avoiding the real issue: Their actual policy goals. The more I read posts and articles like this one, which make increasingly empirical arguments basically destroying the phony neo-liberal "reform" argument, the more I realize this is a very basic political problem.

Arne and his boss are just being totally dishonest. They aren't reformers at all. They are subversives in a very genuine sense of the word. They are actively destroying a fundamental part of American life these last 150 years or so.

The longer liberals avoid this confrontation, the more likely we lose.

When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

-- Frederic Bastiat, "The Law", 1850


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"They are subversives in a very genuine sense of the word." (2.00 / 2)
So right. And the fact that most people on the left don't see this - at least in regard to education policy - is what is most disturbing to me. I just had a phone conversation with a family member and lifelong liberal Democrat who conveyed to me that most "progressive" people were aligning with the notion that teachers needed to have their pay connected to student test scores. Aye, yi, yi! We have a lot of work to do.  

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Yep. Tribal Identity trumps philosophical soundness. (4.00 / 1)
Sadly, too many Dems are trapped in the realm of simple (some might say trivial) Tribal Identity. Their tribal leader says X, and so they are willing to go along with it. Not because they understand it or the implications, but simply because everything occurs within this Them OR Us (GOP or DEM) continuum.

"Well, if it's really so bad, why are the GOPers so upset about it?" This is the best we can manage?

Ultimately, the teacher pay issue is about making the wrong people accountable for failed systems. That's the whole point. And ultimately, it will be the not-advantaged, not-rich students who will pay. Teacher pay is just a sideshow to deflect the real question of What This Is All About. We always find money to pay for things we care about. Like wars... and lots of 'em. So why is lowering teachers' standard of living somehow a demonstration of reformist intent?

You're right, there's a lot of work to be done. And just going by my discussions with friends of mine who can't get out of this tribal mindset and are thusly letting a lot of awful crap slide (torture, banksters, corruption, indefinite detention and so on), it's not an easy task. It's a bit like pulling cactus spines out of one's foot.


When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

-- Frederic Bastiat, "The Law", 1850


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Actually (0.00 / 0)
Jefferson was expelled to make room for Thomas Aquinas and John Calvin the alleged sources for liberal reform and constitutional government according to the Texas theocrats.  Locke and Voltaire survived the purge.

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Perhaps it would be better if they didn't explain (4.00 / 3)
I once heard a Muslim fundamentalist explain that he and his brothers did indeed value and honor women. How could they not, he said, as women were those-who-nurtured-the-warriors-of-the-future. It strikes me that if the members of the Washington Consensus were somehow disposed to explain honestly what their goals for reform were, they'd wind up sounding a lot like our Muslim fundamentalist friend.

Our Washington-certified reformers seem to believe that the only possible justification for the money spent on public schools is to maintain an adequate supply of wage-slaves and military recruits for the future. (Their kids, of course, are sent to private schools, where the goals are quite different, and money is never an object.)


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It would certainly be better for THEM if they didn't have to be clear. Or honest. (4.00 / 1)
I think your characterization is basically correct. Part Billy "Still hatin' them Jews after all these years" Graham, part Lloyd "God's Work" Blankfein and part David "Being rich means never having to say sorry or pay taxes" Koch, with a little Oprah thrown in for good measure.

Take away the technocratic BS and they'll have to explain themselves and why they seek to destroy one of this country's best ideas: Public Liberal Education.

I don't think it will focus group all that well.


When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

-- Frederic Bastiat, "The Law", 1850


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Cognitive dissonance indeed. Obama is not (4.00 / 2)
even doing the "I was for __   before I was against it" dance. He is for ____ at the same he is against it - just depends on the audience he is addressing. (Fill in the blanks with the issues). Eg., he talks about how free trade has decimated American workers and few days later he will polishedly do a "blame the vitim" thing saying American workers need to "compete" with Chinese & Indians and therefore need more education (Thomas Freidman style). And push for free trade with South Korea, Panama & Columbia. Talk about teacher accountability in an address to US chamber of Commerce - the ultimate icon of Accountability indeed. Crows about those "fat cat bankers" only to call those crooks as "free market meritocrats" few days later. Crows about dependence on foreign oil while going Palin with "Drill baby drill".And his dance on the entitlements & deficits... aahhhh... And on and on it goes.... That's what happens if you get me started .

As for the Hurricane Katrina "revival" , I was surprised Obama's own remarks escaped scrutiny :

On the education front, I just visited Martin Luther King Charter School, the first school to reopen in the Ninth Ward and an inspiration for this city. (Applause.) We've also worked to be a better partner and free up funding that has allowed places like this university right here, the University of New Orleans and - (applause) - and the Southern University of New Orleans to rebuild. (Applause.) We're looking for ways to be more flexible, so New Orleans can build the school system it deserves. And because a lot of your public schools opened themselves up to new ideas and innovative reforms, we're actually seeing an improvement in overall achievement that is making the city a model for reform nationwide. That is good news, thanks to the hard work being done right here in New Orleans. (Applause.)

http://www.zimbio.com/Presiden...

The blogosphere was raving about Obama's answer to a kid asking why people hate him during the townhall and this went under the radar.


It's not so much that Obama's remarks "escaped scrutiny" (4.00 / 1)
but that Duncan's remarks were so inflammatory that one had to point to the latter before the former. Nevertheless, your point is well made that Obama's approach to education is not all that different from his other "stances."

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Me thinks Obama as usual outs it in a polished way - like a diplomat (4.00 / 2)
who show the way to hell but describing it in such a way that we think we are going to heaven. Duncan lacks that skill apparently.  

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I am well off the reservation here (4.00 / 1)
since one of my children attended an f rated school in Florida school two years in a row, before I finally pulled the child from the public schools here.

I HATED DOING THAT.  I went to public schools, and my child goes to public schools when we are in Connecticut.

But you need to articulate what needs to be done to schools that are failing.  I don't have the answer, but there is an issue here that needs to be addressed.  

And as much as I support more money for schools, more money is not all of the answer.  


I don't see you as "off the reservation." (4.00 / 3)
'Cause that is the problem isn't it? Believe me, I wouldn't send my kids to a crappy school either. So I in no way dismiss your concerns. And of course "more money" is not the answer -- not even most educators believe that.

So what to do about failing schools? Well, first off: Acknowledge that a failed school is a symptom of a failed community. Because that essentially is what a school is - an expression of the community's values.

Second, since the focus of this diary is about the national response to troubled local schools, then one would hope that the national intervention would be helpful (the "do no harm" clause). My argument is that this is certainly not the case here. And the "issue that needs to be addressed" is basically not even on the table. Because politicians are refusing to acknowledge that many of those issues - such as chronic poverty, inequality, poor parenting, lack of respect for teachers, structural and cultural impediments to good education - are the crux of the matter.


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I would add that, as a piece in Harpers pointed out several months (0.00 / 0)
back, one neoliberal education strategy has been to de-emphasize the value of a high school diploma in its own right and to instead emphasize programs that subsidize higher education. The Harper's piece discusses Germany in particular, but Germany is not alone in understanding that a high school diploma ought to be something of value for its own sake, and not as merely a stepping stool to higher education.

Because once a society has deemed a high school diploma largely inadequate for its own sake, they've thrown out the window any motivation that someone who simply can't ever afford a higher education might have. If you're going to be flipping burgers no matter what you do, why exactly are you supposed to care about the educational experience that prefaces said burger flipping career?


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Wihout having read the Harper's piece (0.00 / 0)
it seems to me that it reflects some of the perspective that Lois Weiner conveys in her remarks that I link to in my diary. More specifically, she maintains that the World Bank is engineering the global economy toward devaluing education. Short version:
"The global economy requires that workers from every country compete with others for jobs. And since most people will be competing with workers in other countries for jobs requiring little formal education, money spent on a highly educated workforce is wasted. . . [And] because we don't need a highly educated workforce, we don't need highly educated teachers. Therefore, we can have a teaching force that's a revolving door. Teachers will use standardized scripts. Kids will be educated to a seventh or an eighth grade level. And that's OK!"

I urge you to read the entire transcript of her remarks here.

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Well, right. And that was the larger context of the Harper's piece, (0.00 / 0)
that Germany remains the world's largest exporter by virtue of having rejected many neoliberal suppositions. So, yeah, they may well function as another bit of evidence that there's no small connection between economic and educational philosophies.

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Equity (4.00 / 1)
Money alone is not the answer, but money+equity (provided we're talking about more than just schools in isolation) gets us at least 90% of the way there, IMHO.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I compare (0.00 / 0)
my Florida Public School, my Private Florida School, and the CT public school my child attends.

The best is the CT public school.  I am not convinced it is money.

An example.  Parent Teacher night in the Public Florida School: 1 in 3 parents shows up. In one science class the teacher has all told about 160 students.  Less than 20 parents bothered to talk to the teacher.

Parent/Teacher night in the Florida Private School: about 90% of the kids have at least one parent show up.

Parent Teacher night in the CT public school:
Standing room only.  Every child has at least one parent in the school, but most have both. There is a scramble for chairs.  

When I hear that we need to fire teachers my first reaction is the reason it is OK to talk about firing them is that no one is willing to ask about the parents.

As I side, I am off the reservation here...



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That's the thing. (0.00 / 0)
With public education, the most important evidence tends to be anecdotal. For instance, the scenario you describe with your CT public school is the spittin' image of what my local public schools are like. Why the difference? Strong determination from the parents to make pubic schools work. Yeah that, and affluence, high levels of education, and other advantages.

So what is a community to do when the support of parents is uneven? I agree, that more money alone will not solve the problem. But surely you can see that the situation in your community is a recipe for disaster: gross inequality, continued widening in the separation between the haves and the have nots. So it seems to me that the proper role of the federal government in your situation would be to make stronger interventions in your community rather than scolding educators for "failing."

But most importantly, your contention that you're "off the reservation" needs to be tempered with some acknowledgment that your situation is actually more typical than not. You are indeed, my friend, totally on the reservation. Determining how to proceed from here is the issue.


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A cliff notes version of what progressives have been saying : (4.00 / 1)
Schools reflect the community they serve. Fix schools in poor areas by acknowledging and fixing the social issues in those communities  . Ensure equal funding to schools regardless of where they are located (heard of teachers ponying up their own money to buy supplies for students?).  

Sorry , this comment is meant as a reply to fladem. Seems Jeff beat me to it (0.00 / 0)
with a better reply.  

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Jeff (0.00 / 0)
What is your background to public schools? Just curious if you are a graduate or someone outside looking in. Many politicians nowadays boast about making public schools better but would never send their own kids to one. Obama for example, I doubt considered, even for one second, enrolling his kids in the DC public system.

Not sure what difference it makes. (0.00 / 0)
But as you can see upthread in my reply to fladem that I am involved in my local public schools. I'm not being coy here but either my arguments ring true or they don't.

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Nice post (0.00 / 0)
However, I only partially agree on the cognitive dissonance.  If you honestly believe you are firing only the bad teachers, that does not contradict saving the good teachers' jobs.  Other than that, though, I agree with you completely.

You're mistaken. (4.00 / 1)
The four intervention models I reference above do not call for firing just the "bad teachers." One calls for firing half of the staff, another for shutting down the school entirely, and a third for shutting down and reopening as a charter school, which would no doubt lead to significant staff changes. So where do you get the idea that Arne Duncan cares about firing only "bad teachers?"

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The Assumption (0.00 / 0)
The fundamental assumption is the bad schools are largely due to bad teachers.  While I agree this is stupid in many ways, it is pretty clear this is what folks like Duncan believe.  Even if not "just" the bad teachers, mostly bad teachers and certainly improving the overall teacher quality (in his mind).

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Okay. (0.00 / 0)
But you really have to strain to rationalize that thinking. But yes, you can get there. And maybe his mind does actually work that way.

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One more thing (0.00 / 0)
Also, I don't believe the plans you mentioned are designed to reduce the total number of teachers, whereas the state funding issues do.  That's a pretty big difference.

Back to the first point, your "problem" is you are thinking about this from the point of view of teachers and social justice, where the value of each individual is respected.  Out here it the business community we've gotten used to crappy management styles that don't worry about such things.  It sucks, but there is an internal consistency.  If one school has below average teachers, then firing them all improves the overall teaching quality.  This is true even if you fire some really good teachers in the process.

Remember, cogs are cogs!

Note that I agree with you on the overall inaneness of this, but I think it is important to understand what someone else is doing from their point of view.  A good debater can take both sides; it is easier to argue against something if you actually understand what they are trying to do.


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Well I clearly see both sides of your point now. n/t (0.00 / 0)


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Hey Jeff (0.00 / 0)
I've been a mostly silent admirer of your take on these issues.  

Do you have a take on the big POLITICAL news on this front in the past week?  I refer to Florida, where Gov Crist VETOED a "merit play" plan.  Does this not, in some sense, put this Republican to the left of the Obama administration on this issue, and if so what might this mean?  Might it mean that "just fire the teachers" doesn't have as much political juice as the Versailles insiders think it does?

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


Thanks for bringing this up. (0.00 / 0)
I was tempted to address the Crist story because it IS big political news. But I got into my theme which led me away from that story. To me, the most fascinating aspect of the story is why Crist chose an education issue to make his split from the Republican rightwing (to be redundant). It's almost unheard of for a candidate to make education a key point of differentiation in a race. Was is just a timing issue (because that was the bill that was on his desk when he needed to make a move)or is there a substantive policy difference that he is going to run on? Regardless of his motivation, I agree he has put himself to the left of the Obama administration at least on this issue. But whether this issue makes a difference in his political fate, I have no idea yet.

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It's not so much CRIST's political fate that I care about (0.00 / 0)
but if this helps him, it may also help to deflate the Versailles bubble on education.  

Somehow I don't think that Obama really thinks that firing the teachers is really a good thing (I could be wrong about that, I suppose) but has made a Beltway political calculation not to fight the "consensus" on this issue.  If the politics of that position can be demonstrated to be weaker than previously thought, there's more space to argue for a better position.  

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


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Totally agree. (0.00 / 0)
Didn't intend to come off as a Crist sympathizer. But, if standing up against unfair treatment of teachers manages to grow political capital for him then it would indeed probably set the wheels in motion for a more concerted pushback against these wrong-headed policies.  

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Consensus and Obama's Moral Compass (4.00 / 1)
Over the weekend Paul stated he thought Obama had no moral compass guiding him.  I think Paul was largely correct on that, at least in the terms Paul meant it.  Obama does seem to have a guiding principle, however, which could be called a "moral compass" but could more accurately be called a management strategy.

Basically, Obama seems to think the #1 problem in this country is we argue about the same stuff all the time and that prevents us from achieving what "everyone knows" needs to be done.  To achieve the greatest good, you need to get a bunch of experts together, hash a solution everyone can agree to and implement it.  But don't let anyone get too caught up in the controversies, go with the consensus view.

(If you go up enough levels of meta, I even agree with this.  Certainly, if I were to write a constitution, this is what I'd aim for, along with protecting the rights of the minority.  But...   well, the "but" speaks for itself, doesn't it?)

In other words, for Obama not fighting the "consensus" seems to be a moral consideration, not just a political one.


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