For everything there is a season: a time to compromise and a time to fight

by: Mike Lux

Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 13:30


There's a lot of discussion about bi-partisanship and the need to compromise going on, which is natural with the Republicans now controlling the House and there being divided government. The key is figuring out the right season to do what in- the right time to cut deals and the right time to stand tall and fight.

Let me start by saying something perhaps surprising for an old school populist progressive like myself: compromise is not a dirty word. It is essential and inevitable in actually making a democratic (note the small d in democratic) government run. Passing budgets, continuing resolutions, debt ceiling increases, and all those basic things that keeps a government functioning will require some compromise and give and take. When politicians choose to make a great symbolic show of intentionally not compromising, all they have to do is look at how nicely that worked out for Newt Gingrich and Bob Dole in 1995. So, yes, everyone in both parties should grit their teeth and prepare themselves: some compromises are inevitable because that is the very nature of divided governments.

I also don't have a problem, as some of my fellow progressives do, with rhetorically offering olive branches to Republicans in a general way. Saying you want to work together, saying you want to talk things through, saying you would like to reach a compromise is not wrong in and of itself, and I don't think the progressive community should freak out every time it happens. It will be a very long couple of years if we do, because this kind of symbolic outreach to the other side is being demanded by voters (Democratic voters among them), and because it is a core part of the symbolic dance that is inherent to divided government.

But let's be very clear about what doesn't have to happen: weak negotiating and capitulation on important issues. Here's a sentence I haven't written very many times: George W. Bush was right about something. But on this one I agree with him: he said you shouldn't negotiate against yourself in public, and he was right. The impression left by all the way-too-early public comments about compromise on the tax cut issue has left Obama looking weak, looking to everyone that he is going to cave on everything that matters sooner rather than later. And the tax cut issue is only the first flash point because there is a growing sense of concern among a lot of the Democrats I have talked to about whether Obama is a strong leader. This Bill Greider piece on Obama has been circulating far and wide, and generating a lot of discussion, because a lot of people have fundamental questions about whether the President will stand up the Republicans.

My advice to my fellow progressives is to not leap to judgment on all this. After the 1994 defeat, it took a while for Bill Clinton to regain his confidence and focus, and things looked very shaky for a few months. But he started standing up to Gingrich on some big symbolic issues like the school lunch fight in the early spring, and when he stood his ground on the big government shutdown battles of the summer, he rallied the base, impressed swing voters with his strength and courage, and established a big lead in the Presidential polling he never relinquished.

My advice to President Obama: don't wait as long as Clinton to stand your ground on important things. The economy is worse and not coming back fast, voters are in bad moods, and the blogosphere (which wasn't around in 1994/1995) and others in the media will eat you alive if you don't show some strength and moxie soon. Most importantly, pick some fights and stand tall on the things that matter not to DC elites but to the hurting and angry working and middle class voters that turned against us in the election. Some specific suggestions that are all both good policy things to do but also weighted with huge symbolic weight both to your progressive base and to the middle class:

1. Side with struggling homeowners, not the banks, on the foreclosure crisis.

2. Pick a fight and make the Republicans defend and specifically vote for extending the Bush tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires.

3. Pick as head of the National Economic Council a person who is known to be a strong advocate for the middle class.

4. Once the Deficit Commission has gone through its process, than thank them for their work but make it clear that you would never support raising the retirement age, cutting Social Security benefits, and ending the mortgage and health care deductions. Propose your own plan that balances the budget in the long run without transferring income from the middle class to the wealthy.

5. Announce an aggressive new plan to rebuild America's manufacturing sector, and make the Republicans say why they don't want to do it.

Doing things like this show strength, and show the middle class you are on their side. Those are the two most important things you can do to reassure both your base and swing voters, and you need to do both to rebuild your Presidency.  

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Strawman post (4.00 / 13)
I also don't have a problem, as some of my fellow progressives do, with rhetorically offering olive branches to Republicans in a general way.

To the extent that any progressive has a problem with this, it's because we know that it's not just rhetoric. He's and a pro-compromiser and an over-compromiser and keeps offering olive branches even after the GOP has broken them in a half a hundred times.

Moreover, he's signaling a willingness to capitulate on tax cuts and SS (he set up the damn commisson!) -- precisely the things you say he must hold firm on.


The weakness is overpowering. (4.00 / 7)
The aspect of his character that we identified in the primary wars is far worse than we even expected.  After a meteoric rise, he is hitting bottom.  He could choose to fight, but everything we have seen to date suggests that he will not.  The overwhelming need for approval from the power structure seems to drive decisions.  When is the last time he sought to build briedges to proggresives as he does to the Chamber?  He thinks his ideas are the limit of left politics and then moves rightward, surrounding himself with people to the right.  

Nothing we can do can make any difference if the President will not fight.

We may need to start looking toward 2014 and 2016.


[ Parent ]
Mike and a lot of other progressive insiders (4.00 / 4)
Are still stuck in the HOPE phase of the Obama Phenomena.  We bought this candidate sight unseen, and that's a shame on us.  But given the viable alternatives, or lack thereof, we can move on past that mistake.  The issue now is that he has a track record and even if the left sticks their collective heads in the sand of hope, the GOP is not.  If Obama somehow redeems himself then good on him.  But I don't think we should invest the family treasure in that HOPE.  

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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I don't know. (4.00 / 6)
I deeply appreciate it when Mike writes stuff like this, I don't get angry at him like the commenters do over at Common Dreams.  It's just I don't think that Obama and his team care about what Mike cares about and so will never listen to him and others like him with this wise advice.

But I don't want Mike and others to stop writing stuff like this.  In my field, Mental Health, and the Education field that I rub shoulders with since I see kids in situ at schools, we have learned to DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT.  A teacher has to not only try to use all the tools to get a child to stop disruptive behavior, including working with the family, but also to document it all so when it's time for more stringent interventions it's all written down that the teacher tried the less severe things and they failed.

Mike's advice is documenting that we progressives tried that.

Educate, Agitate, Organize, Mobilize, Act!


[ Parent ]
Mike is one of the good guys (4.00 / 2)
We would be fortunate if he made the decisions.  I would guess the corporate elitists at the top view him the same way as they view all progressives.

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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[ Parent ]
Republican Rigidity is at fault (0.00 / 0)
There were only one or two Republicans from the start who offered any possibility of Obama passing legislation. Period. He had to court them (Snowe, Collins, e.g.) because of the damnable 60 vote cloture rule.

Now he can simulate courting them, but I think so far the job is going well by simply letting them paint their own causes for what they are: ludicrous, stupid, and pointless. I object to the Feds making new jobs possible (Corker) I object to the START treaty after babying it along (Kyl) I object to earmarks (except in my own districts and only if we rename them (Bachmann) I object to people getting help if they are poor --NOT EVEN IF WE GIVE THE RICH a tax break -- the poor have to tighten their belts (McCain) I object to middle class tax breaks (virtually all the Republicans).

Pretty good start for their own self-destruction.

They are weirdly terrified of Obama face to face after he faced them down last year and are putting off meeting with him (McConnell "I look forward to meeting with him--eventually).  


The only possibility I see - (0.00 / 0)
is total absolute capitulation! And not one of these whishy-washy 70 or 80 percent - It has to be the 100 percent - 'Rape me'! 'Rape me'! - and then approach the American people crying with streams of blood running out of our bodies and ask for their mercy -
(now that might work at the next elction?!)

Excuse me! - (0.00 / 0)
'Erection'!

[ Parent ]
I mean - (0.00 / 0)
'when the American voters have their next "erection'!

[ Parent ]
and if they have enough empathy - (0.00 / 0)
to keep Bristol Palin in a dance contest - They must have enough empathy for us - if we just would lokk MORE pathetic!

[ Parent ]
Don't let the drapes hit you as you walk off the Kabuki stage (4.00 / 1)
If he takes a stand on something finally, and it's only one 'something' and his water-carriers come out and pump it among progressives in a show of painfully obvious, tin-earred political manipulation, it's not going to work. it's just going to look insincere and contrived.

One bowl of gruel won't be enough to distract progressive movement from the record, I don't think, so he's going to need a critical mass of efforts and accomplishments in the next two years to change the overall record at this point.

I would like to recruit Jan Schakowsky to run against Obama in the primary. As Paul said, her deficit reduction plan was the kind of thing we should have seen coming straight from Obama, right from the start, presented from the bully pulpit. She seems to have both core values and some willingness to fight.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still an Obama supporter currently, but the previous paragraph is the kind of political fantasies I'm starting to have now...

The MSM has tagged Independents the party of swing-voting 'centrism.' If Democrats no longer represent your liberal values, show America there is still a Left by registering for another left-aligned party.


Why wait? (4.00 / 2)
I would like to recruit Jan Schakowsky to run against Obama in the primary. As Paul said, her deficit reduction plan was the kind of thing we should have seen coming straight from Obama, right from the start, presented from the bully pulpit. She seems to have both core values and some willingness to fight.

Seems to me that it might be more appropriate, effective, and timely to more directly confront the WH by inviting him over to the House for an intra-party round-table at which folks like Schakowsky (backed by supporters inside and outside of the conference room, of course) confront Obama publically.

He was willing to meet with the GOPpers - and where did that get him? Nowhere. He bowed down to the Blue Dogs. Where are they  - at home licking their wounds and rooting for Heath Shuler. Time to join the winning team within the Democratic Party, Mr. President.  

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
I like that idea very much. (0.00 / 0)
So where do we begin?

Stoller ran a 'Draft Wesley Clark' campaign back in the day. Perhaps a look at that antecedent would be a good place to start.

Letters and petitions are always good too.

Develop a contact list.

An early overture to Schakowsky (I don't even know how to pronounce that) makes sense. How about an open to letter to Schakowsky, perhaps with some notable progressive figures signed on (or not)?

Another idea would be to set up an escrow account on Act Blue for an as-yet unnamed primary challenger to Obama. I believe someone did that a few years ago.

The MSM has tagged Independents the party of swing-voting 'centrism.' If Democrats no longer represent your liberal values, show America there is still a Left by registering for another left-aligned party.


[ Parent ]
Well (4.00 / 1)
One would hope that by posting such an idea in response to a diary written by Mike Lux, such an idea might reach the ear (eyes) of precisely the kind of people that could very directly act upon them. But perhaps I spend too much time dreaming.

Maybe the simple act of putting up a poll on the subject of "Should the Progressive Caucus aggressively push President Obama to meet with them on the issue of jobs creation and economic stimulus?"

Perhaps OpenLeft might collect funds to buy up some billboards around DC (or wherever) and display the bar graph in Paul's earlier diary? I'd contribute.

The open letter idea is a good one - but who will write it?

Petitions? Fine - but there have been a bevy of these lately.

General agitation is in order. By any means necessary.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
I'll do some research (4.00 / 1)


The MSM has tagged Independents the party of swing-voting 'centrism.' If Democrats no longer represent your liberal values, show America there is still a Left by registering for another left-aligned party.

[ Parent ]
Here's the poll (0.00 / 0)
Vote Now!

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
Appeal to the powers that be (4.00 / 1)
to promote that poll to the front page.

The MSM has tagged Independents the party of swing-voting 'centrism.' If Democrats no longer represent your liberal values, show America there is still a Left by registering for another left-aligned party.

[ Parent ]
Fantasies is right (4.00 / 4)
Look, Jan Schakowsky is a terrific Congresswoman and I'm proud to have her as my representative, but if you think she'll challenge Barack Obama you have another think coming.  She is his biggest backer.

She may back things that he won't but I have never known her to directly pressure or even criticize him.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


[ Parent ]
5 Excellent Proposals (4.00 / 2)
But Mike,

Do you know anyone in the administration who has a prayer of selling even two of them to Obama?

Polling suggests that Obama is still popular enough with the registered voters who stayed home this year to be re-elected in 2012, but he could increase the chances of his getting re-elected by adopting the mildly aggressive measures you propose.

What has he done in the last two years to suggest that he will do anything that requires a fight?


Very little (4.00 / 1)
What has he done in the last two years to suggest that he will do anything that requires a fight?

That's why he needs folks like Schakowsky to show him how to do it. If he is half as politically savvy as he thinks he is, he must realize that every political faction (regardless of party label) with which he has been "negotiating" lost, big time, in the 2010 elections. Blue Dogs? "Moderate" GOPpers? Vaporized!

The only option left is the left.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
Precisely (4.00 / 1)
Every one of those suggestions is worthy of adoption.

However there is no evidence - I am not trying to be hyperbolic but accurate here - there is no evidence to suggest these steps or any portion of them will be seriously considered. Maybe some partial unsatisfying evidence of support for homeowners with his veto that may well be overridden. But that's it: #2-5 are nowhere to be found no matter how hard one looks.

I hope Mr. Lux can help us understand how to make progress on pushing the WH to adopt these stances. Otherwise it's just wishcasting. Not entirely useless, to be sure, but wishing nonetheless.

Obama should: Advocate single payer, bring home the troops, punish BP...I could go one but what's the point?

Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts? Hot ashes for trees? Hot air for a cool breeze? And cold comfort for change?


[ Parent ]
I'd just like to note (4.00 / 2)
Let me start by saying something perhaps surprising for an old school populist progressive like myself: compromise is not a dirty word.

Absolutely nobody is surprised by this statement, coming from you.

Where the fuck was all this during HCR while Obama was giving up the plot under threat of...uh...well, nothing really, as they still passed the bill with only 50 votes?

also

After the 1994 defeat, it took a while for Bill Clinton to regain his confidence and focus, and things looked very shaky for a few months.

Then the real triangulating and ratfucking kicked in.  Also, starving Iraqis to death for fun and profit.

Also, everything Mizner said.


After the 1994 defeat, it took a while for Bill Clinton to regain his confidence (4.00 / 2)
and focus, and things looked very shaky for a few months.

...and then it was "welfare reform" and "school uniforms" all the way, easing Clinton's return to power and weakening the GOP thugs, who never tried to impeach him. Lux must have been living in a completely different Nineties from the one I was in.

Hey, remember when Monica Lewinsky saved Social Security?

Clinton wanted to privatize SocSec, but the Lewinsky scandal wrecked the deal, as Gingrich could never have been seen to work with Clinton after that. As the old saying goes, it's an ill wind that blows no good, eh?

To suggest that Clinton reconnected with his populist roots after his 1994 is just silly. To do so in service of asking angry progressives to support Obama's further capitulation on progressive policy issues is downright misguided, and raises questions about your so-called prgressive populism.

Your man Bill was never a progressive, or even a real liberal (neoliberals don't count, as the only thing liberal about them is the amount of taxpayer dough they want to give to large corporations). And for "an old school populist progressive" you sure end up doing the bidding of some skeevy corporate suck-weasels.


[ Parent ]
I mostly agree... (4.00 / 1)
...but I have my doubts whether Obama will do any of these things.

And quite seriously, we don't need another Bill Clinton; we need another Harry Truman.  I think the worrying from progressives is twofold:  worry that he won't ever exert himself as president and worry that if he does, it will be in the Clinton mold that really doesn't help the country move forward.

I do, however, think that had the president been able to articulate a vision during the last two years of where he wants to lead the country, democrats could have limited their losses enough to retain control of the house; the problems with the election are not just limited to timid policy choices.


Size Matters (4.00 / 1)
Or rather complexity does. The problem we have always had is that we are debating details while they are condemning the entire concept at the same time. The stimulus and health care wars we went through illustrate the points. What if the stimulus was presented in three parts Infrastructure, Aid to the states and Tax cuts instead of one package. Now the condemnation would have to be about those three things (and people may realize they got a tax cut). So Senator (insert wind bag) what were the tax cuts to small? Obama's rebuilding America Act failed? Obama's Save the cops and teachers Act was mis-aimed? Then the compromises would be clear we wanted that you wanted this and here is what it looks like. The same could have been dome with health care. Mandate/Public Option, Insurance regulation again the debate at the time would have been very different.

We just have to get in the habit of presenting our big ideas in chunks and forcing the debate to be about those chunks. Big fights would happen but even with the normal give and take we would be much farther ahead.


Size Matters (0.00 / 0)
Or rather complexity does. The problem we have always had is that we are debating details while they are condemning the entire concept at the same time. The stimulus and health care wars we went through illustrate the points. What if the stimulus was presented in three parts Infrastructure, Aid to the states and Tax cuts instead of one package. Now the condemnation would have to be about those three things (and people may realize they got a tax cut). So Senator (insert wind bag) what were the tax cuts to small? Obama's rebuilding America Act failed? Obama's Save the cops and teachers Act was mis-aimed? Then the compromises would be clear we wanted that you wanted this and here is what it looks like. The same could have been dome with health care. Mandate/Public Option, Insurance regulation again the debate at the time would have been very different.

We just have to get in the habit of presenting our big ideas in chunks and forcing the debate to be about those chunks. Big fights would happen but even with the normal give and take we would be much farther ahead.


Prediction (4.00 / 1)
My reaction to the five things Obama neeeds to do is:

1. Won't happen
2. Won't happen
3. won't happen
4. won't happen
And
5. won't happen

We need to look outside of DC to get things done.


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